Liberal Bullshit

Stephanie

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Quite a fitting word for them and these Progressives you are getting a taste of in this administration. Never put them in Power over us again

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For progressives, the success of government programs takes a backseat to their own moral grandstanding.
By William Voegeli



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The "Bully Pulpit" in action. (Win McNamee/Getty)


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‘Bullshit” is American English’s assertion, maximally succinct and vigorous, that a contention is factually preposterous or logically absurd. According to philosophy professor Harry Frankfurt, however, the “essence of bullshit is not that it is false but that it is phony.” His slender volume devoted to the subject, On Bullshit, invites us to think of a Fourth of July orator “who goes on bombastically about ‘our great and blessed country, whose Founding Fathers under divine guidance created a new beginning for mankind.’” The speaker’s point is not “to deceive anyone concerning American history.” Rather,

what he cares about is what people think of him. He wants them to think of him as a patriot, as someone who has deep thoughts and feelings about the origins and the mission of our country, who appreciates the importance of religion, who is sensitive to our history, whose pride in that history is combined with humility before God, and so on.

It’s difficult to banish the glum suspicion that life in the 21st century, for all its economic and technological benefits, necessitates putting up with much more bullshit than our ancestors had to.
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Frankfurt limits his discussion of bullshit to descriptive statements, analyzing and regretting our departure from the standard of truth. He does not take up the question of prescriptive statements, the mainstay of politics. Criticizing Republican proposals to cut spending on Head Start and other educational programs, for example, President Obama said, “We know that three- and four-year-olds who go to high-quality preschools, including our best Head Start programs, are less likely to repeat a grade, they’re less likely to need special education, they’re more likely to graduate from high school than the peers who did not get these services.”

The first part of Obama’s statement is not bullshit, because it does nothing worse than employ the politician’s constant companion, the selectively revealed half-truth.
Children who attend the best Head Start programs show positive results but, as we have seen, Head Start attendees overall are no better off than peers not enrolled in the program.

Obama invokes the sunny side of the law of averages without acknowledging its grim side: If children who attend the best Head Start programs do better than their peers, children who attend the worst programs must, necessarily, have developmental problems even more severe than those afflicting children in a control group who never enrolled in the program at all.


The more interesting part of Obama’s statement, for our purposes, is the generic political prescription, the assertion that government program X will solve problem Y. Prescription lends itself to bullshitting if, following Frankfurt, the prescriber has a lack of connection to a concern with efficacy.

Both kinds of bullshitters, de-scribers and prescribers, are more concerned with conveying their ideals, of which idealized understandings of their true selves are a central component, than with making statements that correspond scrupulously to empirical or causal reality. A bullshit description may be, at least in part, factually accurate, but any such accuracy is inadvertent. The accurate data were incorporated into the spiel not for the sake of correctness but because it helped express the speaker’s “values” or “vision.”

ALL of it here:
Liberal Bullshit National Review Online
 
Here's an example of their BS.

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White House Website STILL Praises “Objective Analysis” Of Gruber On Benefits Of Obamacare (Doesn’t Mention He’s Paid Consultant)

Obama said today he had “just heard of” the Jonathan Gruber statements, and referred to Gruber as “some advisor who never was on staff”.
We noted last night how Gruber himself said he met with Obama in the White House to talk about how to put this all over on people. The OFA truth team even had a video using Gruber and calling him a “health consultant to the Obama administration”.
But here’s another wonder of deception, still up on the White House website, a page praising Gruber and his “objective analysis”.
They title it, “Word from the White House: Objective Analysis Shows Reform will Help Small Businesses, Lower Premiums for American Families”
No where is it stated that Jonathan Gruber was a paid consultant to the White House, it is termed an “objective analysis”.
They even dare to say this:
It’s no secret that institutions of all stripes focus their communications on certain messages day to day. We thought it would all be a little more open and transparent if we went ahead and published what our focus will be for the day, along with any related articles, documents, or reports.
Well, you’re not open and transparent about the fact that you’re paying this man offering “objective analysis”.
Let’s see some of that objective analysis:
MIT economist Jonathan Gruber has a new report out showing that reform will lower premiums for Americans purchasing insurance on their own.
Analyzing the non-partisan information from the CBO, Gruber reports that under the House version of health insurance reform legislation, a typical individual could save anywhere from nearly $500 to more than $3,000 and a typical family could save between $1,260 and more than $9,000.
Those savings, he notes, come in addition to the more generous benefits consumers would receive by purchasing insurance through the newly created exchange.
And it’s also in addition to increased protections – like banning insurance companies from discriminating based on pre-existing conditions or dropping or watering down coverage when you get sick and need it most.
“Not only does the House proposal lower premiums, it does so while also improving coverage,” Gruber writes.
We all know now if we didn’t know before, what nonsense this was, something for everyone, but no one has to pay. Sounds a little like, oh I don’t know, voodoo economics?

ALL of it here:
White House Website STILL Praises 8220 Objective Analysis 8221 Of Gruber On Benefits Of Obamacare Doesn 8217 t Mention He 8217 s Paid Consultant Weasel Zippers
 
more BS

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Gruber-gate gets to Obama: ‘No, I did not’ mislead Americans
posted at 2:01 pm on November 16, 2014 by Noah Rothman
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All the president’s men could not shield the commander-in-chief from fallout surrounding recently uncovered comments made by Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber.
The health policy and implementation expert who worked closely on the Affordable Care Act and the Massachusetts health care reform law has backed the administration into a corner after it was revealed he repeatedly celebrated the misleading way in which the law was crafted and the “stupidity” of the American voter over whose eyes the wool was pulled.
“The fact that an adviser who was never on our staff expressed an opinion that I completely disagree with in terms of the voters is not a reflection on the actual process that was run,” Obama told reporters in Australia where he is attending a G-20 summit.
When asked directly if he or his administration had, as Gruber insisted, intentionally misled the public and oversight organizations like the Congressional Budget Office when they crafted the Accordable Care Act, Obama’s reply was terse and direct. “No,” he said. “I did not.”
Obama was joined on Sunday by Health and Human Services Sec. Sylvia Burwell who appeared on Meet the Press to distance herself and the administration from Gruber.
“I have to start with how fundamentally I disagree with his comments about the bill and about the American people,” she began emphatically.
Burwell was, however, not asked to respond to those comments. She was asked by moderator Chuck Todd about whether what Gruber said about “mislabeling” new taxes on health insurance plans as fees was true.
Neither the secretary nor Obama addressed Gruber’s charge directly because it is impossible to deny its accuracy.
It is not the first time the president has been pulled into a controversy over the implementation of Obamacare. After weeks of controversy following a cascade of Americans who lost their individual coverage plans which were not compliant with new Obamacare regulations last year, the president was forced to issue a personal apology.
“I am sorry that they– you know, are finding themselves in this situation, based on assurances they got from me,” Obama told Todd in the fall of 2013.
Just days after Obama issued this apology, however, it was revealed that the president was aware that millions of noncompliant plans would be cancelled.

Despite his apology for the incorrect assertion Obama made on numerous occasions, that you could keep your plan if you liked your plan, the administration knew this was not true.

all of it here:
Gruber-gate gets to Obama 8216 No I did not 8217 mislead Americans Hot Air
 
Quite a fitting word for them and these Progressives you are getting a taste of in this administration. Never put them in Power over us again

SNIP:
For progressives, the success of government programs takes a backseat to their own moral grandstanding.
By William Voegeli



pic_giant_111314_SM_Obama-Biden-Bullshit-G.jpg

The "Bully Pulpit" in action. (Win McNamee/Getty)


Comments
589
‘Bullshit” is American English’s assertion, maximally succinct and vigorous, that a contention is factually preposterous or logically absurd. According to philosophy professor Harry Frankfurt, however, the “essence of bullshit is not that it is false but that it is phony.” His slender volume devoted to the subject, On Bullshit, invites us to think of a Fourth of July orator “who goes on bombastically about ‘our great and blessed country, whose Founding Fathers under divine guidance created a new beginning for mankind.’” The speaker’s point is not “to deceive anyone concerning American history.” Rather,

what he cares about is what people think of him. He wants them to think of him as a patriot, as someone who has deep thoughts and feelings about the origins and the mission of our country, who appreciates the importance of religion, who is sensitive to our history, whose pride in that history is combined with humility before God, and so on.

It’s difficult to banish the glum suspicion that life in the 21st century, for all its economic and technological benefits, necessitates putting up with much more bullshit than our ancestors had to.
. . .
Frankfurt limits his discussion of bullshit to descriptive statements, analyzing and regretting our departure from the standard of truth. He does not take up the question of prescriptive statements, the mainstay of politics. Criticizing Republican proposals to cut spending on Head Start and other educational programs, for example, President Obama said, “We know that three- and four-year-olds who go to high-quality preschools, including our best Head Start programs, are less likely to repeat a grade, they’re less likely to need special education, they’re more likely to graduate from high school than the peers who did not get these services.”

The first part of Obama’s statement is not bullshit, because it does nothing worse than employ the politician’s constant companion, the selectively revealed half-truth.
Children who attend the best Head Start programs show positive results but, as we have seen, Head Start attendees overall are no better off than peers not enrolled in the program.

Obama invokes the sunny side of the law of averages without acknowledging its grim side: If children who attend the best Head Start programs do better than their peers, children who attend the worst programs must, necessarily, have developmental problems even more severe than those afflicting children in a control group who never enrolled in the program at all.


The more interesting part of Obama’s statement, for our purposes, is the generic political prescription, the assertion that government program X will solve problem Y. Prescription lends itself to bullshitting if, following Frankfurt, the prescriber has a lack of connection to a concern with efficacy.

Both kinds of bullshitters, de-scribers and prescribers, are more concerned with conveying their ideals, of which idealized understandings of their true selves are a central component, than with making statements that correspond scrupulously to empirical or causal reality. A bullshit description may be, at least in part, factually accurate, but any such accuracy is inadvertent. The accurate data were incorporated into the spiel not for the sake of correctness but because it helped express the speaker’s “values” or “vision.”

ALL of it here:
Liberal Bullshit National Review Online

I agree Stephanie. I think they are so sneaky about Obama Care. It's horrible how they are trying to fool the American people. I don't know how anyone can support this idea.

With so many people not working, how is this idea going to survive?
 
A D politician who lies is not news, one who does not is news. An R politician who does not lie is rare but not rare enough to qualify as news.
 
"Liberal Bullshit"

Typical of most conservatives, pointlessly complain about something while at the same time lacking the courage to offer a solution of their own.

You'll be ok. Remember it's was because of Your parties BS that they just got kicked out of power. tsk tsk
 

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