Liberal fascism

[Political Junky]

You just elected a fascist.

Almost every politician in Washington is a fascist, moron. You voted for a corrupt criminal

How is every politician a fascist? If that were true we would be a fascist country.

We are a fascist country. Our economy is going down the same road as Nazi Germany's.

Your friends at Stormfront must be thrilled.

I'm not the one who supports fascist economics. You are.

I can't figure out if you're lying or just incredibly stupid.

 

[Billo_Really]

While I think you did a lousy job picking the article apart, I am still quite impressed to see a lefty actually go for the content of the article instead of discrediting it based solely on the right wing source who published it.

Well then, allow me to invite you to address each (or any) point I made and prove it was "lousy".

 

[baileyn45]

While I would never say that my liberal friends are fascistic, the political left in this country certainly is. The idea that fascism can only come from the right is wrong. Ever hear of the Nazis? You know the National Socialist Party.

The left has really gotten hung up on the word fascist. As if the governing methods of the Soviets or Maoist were much different. In Nazi Germany when you spoke out against the govt the Gestapo took you away, in soviet East Germany if you spoke out against the govt the Stazi took you away. Big difference.

I read an article where the historian author said the difference between socialism and fascism were that socialism is global in outlook, fascism is national in outlook and often racial. The only other difference is that fascism has the facade of private ownership, you may own the steel mill but just like in socialism, the govt controls it.

And liberalism is not the opposite of fascism, a constitutional conservative is the closest thing I can think of to a polar opposite of fascism. Seperation of powers and states rights are not exactly the basis of fascism. Even my liberal friends have a bad habit of supporting the centralizing of power at the federal level. Fascists love that.

 

[bripat9643]

Almost every politician in Washington is a fascist, moron. You voted for a corrupt criminal

How is every politician a fascist? If that were true we would be a fascist country.

We are a fascist country. Our economy is going down the same road as Nazi Germany's.

Your friends at Stormfront must be thrilled.

I'm not the one who supports fascist economics. You are.

I can't figure out if you're lying or just incredibly stupid.

That's because you're impossibly stupid. The only thing you know is what the government has spoon fed you since you were 5

 

[Political Junky]

How is every politician a fascist? If that were true we would be a fascist country.

We are a fascist country. Our economy is going down the same road as Nazi Germany's.

Your friends at Stormfront must be thrilled.

I'm not the one who supports fascist economics. You are.

I can't figure out if you're lying or just incredibly stupid.

That's because you're impossibly stupid. The only thing you know is what the government has spoon fed you since you were 5

All you know comes from Alt-Right/Fascist sources.

 

[bripat9643]

We are a fascist country. Our economy is going down the same road as Nazi Germany's.

Your friends at Stormfront must be thrilled.

I'm not the one who supports fascist economics. You are.

I can't figure out if you're lying or just incredibly stupid.

That's because you're impossibly stupid. The only thing you know is what the government has spoon fed you since you were 5

All you know comes from Alt-Right/Fascist sources.

Wrong, douche bag. I've read hundreds of books on economics and history. The only books you're read are all on the approved commie apparatchik list. You're a brainwashed drone. Everything you believe is government approved.

 

[Political Junky]

Your friends at Stormfront must be thrilled.

I'm not the one who supports fascist economics. You are.

I can't figure out if you're lying or just incredibly stupid.

That's because you're impossibly stupid. The only thing you know is what the government has spoon fed you since you were 5

All you know comes from Alt-Right/Fascist sources.

Wrong, douche bag. I've read hundreds of books on economics and history. The only books you're read are all on the approved commie apparatchik list. You're a brainwashed drone. Everything you believe is government approved.

Sure you have.

 

[Faun]

Almost every politician in Washington is a fascist, moron. You voted for a corrupt criminal

How is every politician a fascist? If that were true we would be a fascist country.

We are a fascist country. Our economy is going down the same road as Nazi Germany's.

Your friends at Stormfront must be thrilled.

I'm not the one who supports fascist economics. You are.

I can't figure out if you're lying or just incredibly stupid.

Why choose?

 

[Faun]

While I would never say that my liberal friends are fascistic, the political left in this country certainly is. The idea that fascism can only come from the right is wrong. Ever hear of the Nazis? You know the National Socialist Party.

The left has really gotten hung up on the word fascist. As if the governing methods of the Soviets or Maoist were much different. In Nazi Germany when you spoke out against the govt the Gestapo took you away, in soviet East Germany if you spoke out against the govt the Stazi took you away. Big difference.

I read an article where the historian author said the difference between socialism and fascism were that socialism is global in outlook, fascism is national in outlook and often racial. The only other difference is that fascism has the facade of private ownership, you may own the steel mill but just like in socialism, the govt controls it.

And liberalism is not the opposite of fascism, a constitutional conservative is the closest thing I can think of to a polar opposite of fascism. Seperation of powers and states rights are not exactly the basis of fascism. Even my liberal friends have a bad habit of supporting the centralizing of power at the federal level. Fascists love that.

What was socialist about Nazi's?

 

[jon_berzerk]

You dupes and your idiotic version of fascism have been around for TEN YEARS. IDIOTS!

fas·cism
ˈfaSHˌizəm/
noun

1. an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
   synonyms: authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship, despotism, autocracy; More
   
   • (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

View attachment 119501



View attachment 119502

Translations, word origin, and more definitions
Feedback
Fascism | Definition of Fascism by Merriam-Webster
Definition of FASCISM
Definition of fascism for Students. : a political system headed by a dictator in which the government controls business and labor and opposition is not permitted.
Fascism | Define Fascism at Dictionary.com
www.dictionary.com/browse/fascism
1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Fascism - Wikipedia
Fascism - Wikipedia
Jump to Definitions - Main article: Definitions of fascism. Historians ... Each interpretation of fascism is distinct, leaving many definitions too wide or narrow.
Urban Dictionary: fascism
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fascism
The only official definition of Fascism comes from Benito Mussolini, the founder of fascism, in which he outlines three principles of a fascist phi...
fascism - Dictionary Definition : Vocabulary.com
fascism - Dictionary Definition
The word fascism can be hard to spell, so remember that the c comes after the s. Fascism comes from the Latin fascio, meaning “bundle, or political group.
What is fascism? definition and meaning - BusinessDictionary.com
www.businessdictionary.com/definition/Fascism.html
Definition of fascism: Political ideology that imposes strict social and economical measures as a method of empowering the government and stripping citizens of ...
View attachment 119501 View attachment 119502

which party "bundles" people together

 

[jon_berzerk]

Nothing like liberalism DUHHHHHHH...

lib·er·al·ism
ˈlib(ə)rəˌlizəm/
noun

1. the holding of liberal views.
   "one of the basic tenets of liberalism is tolerance"

View attachment 119503

Translations, word origin, and more definitions
Feedback
Liberalism | Definition of Liberalism by Merriam-Webster
Definition of LIBERALISM
2a often capitalized : a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianityb : a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard (see gold ...
Liberalism | Define Liberalism at Dictionary.com
www.dictionary.com/browse/liberalism
liberalism definition. In the twentieth century, a viewpoint or ideology associated with free political institutions and religious toleration, as well as support for a strong role of government in regulating capitalism and constructing the welfare state.
Liberal | Define Liberal at Dictionary.com
www.dictionary.com/browse/liberal
favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism, especially the freedom of the ...
Liberalism - Wikipedia
Liberalism - Wikipedia
Jump to Etymology and definition - Words such as liberal, liberty, libertarian, and libertine all ... Over time, the meaning of the word "liberalism" began to ...
‎Classical liberalism · ‎Social liberalism · ‎Liberty · ‎Traditionalist conservatism
Urban Dictionary: Liberalism
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Liberalism
A definition later to be distorted by Americans, who mainly associate "liberalism" with being left-wing on the political scale, disregarding the original and correct ...
What is liberalism? definition and meaning - BusinessDictionary.com
www.businessdictionary.com/definition/liberalism.html
Definition of liberalism: Economic: Concept that a government should not try to control prices, rents, and/or wages but instead let open competition and forces of ...

1. the holding of liberal views.
   "one of the basic tenets of liberalism is tolerance"

that certainly is not the view of the left today

 

[BlindBoo]

Ruskie WNJ's love to project what they are on their enemies

Historians Stand Up To 'Liberal Fascism' And Its Abuse Of History, While Beck Blithely Promotes It

The Scholarly Flaws of "Liberal Fascism"

Jonah Goldberg's Bizarro History

 

[Aquarius Luna]

Your friends at Stormfront must be thrilled.

I'm not the one who supports fascist economics. You are.

I can't figure out if you're lying or just incredibly stupid.

That's because you're impossibly stupid. The only thing you know is what the government has spoon fed you since you were 5

All you know comes from Alt-Right/Fascist sources.

Wrong, douche bag. I've read hundreds of books on economics and history. The only books you're read are all on the approved commie apparatchik list. You're a brainwashed drone. Everything you believe is government approved.

What are you, seven? Although seven year olds can argue for a cookie without calling their parent a communist.

If you've read so many books on the subject, name a few. In fact, name as many as you can, then tell me what you've learned from them. I would be fascinated by a book that convinced you the dictionary is biased, and out to get republicans.

 

[francoHFW]

Nothing like liberalism DUHHHHHHH...

lib·er·al·ism
ˈlib(ə)rəˌlizəm/
noun

1. the holding of liberal views.
   "one of the basic tenets of liberalism is tolerance"

View attachment 119503

Translations, word origin, and more definitions
Feedback
Liberalism | Definition of Liberalism by Merriam-Webster
Definition of LIBERALISM
2a often capitalized : a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianityb : a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard (see gold ...
Liberalism | Define Liberalism at Dictionary.com
www.dictionary.com/browse/liberalism
liberalism definition. In the twentieth century, a viewpoint or ideology associated with free political institutions and religious toleration, as well as support for a strong role of government in regulating capitalism and constructing the welfare state.
Liberal | Define Liberal at Dictionary.com
www.dictionary.com/browse/liberal
favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism, especially the freedom of the ...
Liberalism - Wikipedia
Liberalism - Wikipedia
Jump to Etymology and definition - Words such as liberal, liberty, libertarian, and libertine all ... Over time, the meaning of the word "liberalism" began to ...
‎Classical liberalism · ‎Social liberalism · ‎Liberty · ‎Traditionalist conservatism
Urban Dictionary: Liberalism
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Liberalism
A definition later to be distorted by Americans, who mainly associate "liberalism" with being left-wing on the political scale, disregarding the original and correct ...
What is liberalism? definition and meaning - BusinessDictionary.com
www.businessdictionary.com/definition/liberalism.html
Definition of liberalism: Economic: Concept that a government should not try to control prices, rents, and/or wages but instead let open competition and forces of ...

1. the holding of liberal views.
   "one of the basic tenets of liberalism is tolerance"

that certainly is not the view of the left today

So gays, minorities, immigrants etc are mainly GOP today....

 

[baileyn45]

While I would never say that my liberal friends are fascistic, the political left in this country certainly is. The idea that fascism can only come from the right is wrong. Ever hear of the Nazis? You know the National Socialist Party.

The left has really gotten hung up on the word fascist. As if the governing methods of the Soviets or Maoist were much different. In Nazi Germany when you spoke out against the govt the Gestapo took you away, in soviet East Germany if you spoke out against the govt the Stazi took you away. Big difference.

I read an article where the historian author said the difference between socialism and fascism were that socialism is global in outlook, fascism is national in outlook and often racial. The only other difference is that fascism has the facade of private ownership, you may own the steel mill but just like in socialism, the govt controls it.

And liberalism is not the opposite of fascism, a constitutional conservative is the closest thing I can think of to a polar opposite of fascism. Seperation of powers and states rights are not exactly the basis of fascism. Even my liberal friends have a bad habit of supporting the centralizing of power at the federal level. Fascists love that.

What was socialist about Nazi's?

Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian

"The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.

What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners."

Hitler and the socialist dream

Hitler's discovery was that socialism could be national as well as international. There could be a national socialism. That is how he reportedly talked to his fellow Nazi Otto Wagener in the early 1930s. The socialism of the future would lie in "the community of the volk", not in internationalism, he claimed, and his task was to "convert the German volk to socialism without simply killing off the old individualists", meaning the entrepreneurial and managerial classes left from the age of liberalism. They should be used, not destroyed. The state could control, after all, without owning, guided by a single party, the economy could be planned and directed without dispossessing the propertied classes.

 

[francoHFW]

While I would never say that my liberal friends are fascistic, the political left in this country certainly is. The idea that fascism can only come from the right is wrong. Ever hear of the Nazis? You know the National Socialist Party.

The left has really gotten hung up on the word fascist. As if the governing methods of the Soviets or Maoist were much different. In Nazi Germany when you spoke out against the govt the Gestapo took you away, in soviet East Germany if you spoke out against the govt the Stazi took you away. Big difference.

I read an article where the historian author said the difference between socialism and fascism were that socialism is global in outlook, fascism is national in outlook and often racial. The only other difference is that fascism has the facade of private ownership, you may own the steel mill but just like in socialism, the govt controls it.

And liberalism is not the opposite of fascism, a constitutional conservative is the closest thing I can think of to a polar opposite of fascism. Seperation of powers and states rights are not exactly the basis of fascism. Even my liberal friends have a bad habit of supporting the centralizing of power at the federal level. Fascists love that.

What was socialist about Nazi's?

Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian

"The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.

What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners."

Hitler and the socialist dream

Hitler's discovery was that socialism could be national as well as international. There could be a national socialism. That is how he reportedly talked to his fellow Nazi Otto Wagener in the early 1930s. The socialism of the future would lie in "the community of the volk", not in internationalism, he claimed, and his task was to "convert the German volk to socialism without simply killing off the old individualists", meaning the entrepreneurial and managerial classes left from the age of liberalism. They should be used, not destroyed. The state could control, after all, without owning, guided by a single party, the economy could be planned and directed without dispossessing the propertied classes.

The fact remains that companies remained capitalist and aristocrats prospered unless they were Jewish or protested Nazi policy. Of course they had to do what the Nazis wanted, and the great majority were happy to. Not socialists at all. They were all in concentration camps DUHHHH, dupe. This is all brand new GOP/dupe revisionism.

 

[baileyn45]

While I would never say that my liberal friends are fascistic, the political left in this country certainly is. The idea that fascism can only come from the right is wrong. Ever hear of the Nazis? You know the National Socialist Party.

The left has really gotten hung up on the word fascist. As if the governing methods of the Soviets or Maoist were much different. In Nazi Germany when you spoke out against the govt the Gestapo took you away, in soviet East Germany if you spoke out against the govt the Stazi took you away. Big difference.

I read an article where the historian author said the difference between socialism and fascism were that socialism is global in outlook, fascism is national in outlook and often racial. The only other difference is that fascism has the facade of private ownership, you may own the steel mill but just like in socialism, the govt controls it.

And liberalism is not the opposite of fascism, a constitutional conservative is the closest thing I can think of to a polar opposite of fascism. Seperation of powers and states rights are not exactly the basis of fascism. Even my liberal friends have a bad habit of supporting the centralizing of power at the federal level. Fascists love that.

What was socialist about Nazi's?

Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian

"The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.

What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners."

Hitler and the socialist dream

Hitler's discovery was that socialism could be national as well as international. There could be a national socialism. That is how he reportedly talked to his fellow Nazi Otto Wagener in the early 1930s. The socialism of the future would lie in "the community of the volk", not in internationalism, he claimed, and his task was to "convert the German volk to socialism without simply killing off the old individualists", meaning the entrepreneurial and managerial classes left from the age of liberalism. They should be used, not destroyed. The state could control, after all, without owning, guided by a single party, the economy could be planned and directed without dispossessing the propertied classes.

The fact remains that companies remained capitalist and aristocrats prospered unless they were Jewish or protested Nazi policy. Of course they had to do what the Nazis wanted, and the great majority were happy to. Not socialists at all. They were all in concentration camps DUHHHH, dupe. This is all brand new GOP/dupe revisionism.

Brand new? Ludwig Von Mises died in 1973. As I said earlier, private ownership of the means of production in Nazi Germany was a facade.

Look at the 25 point National Socialist Program, hardly a ringing endorsement of capitalism.

National Socialist Program - Wikipedia

 

[francoHFW]

While I would never say that my liberal friends are fascistic, the political left in this country certainly is. The idea that fascism can only come from the right is wrong. Ever hear of the Nazis? You know the National Socialist Party.

The left has really gotten hung up on the word fascist. As if the governing methods of the Soviets or Maoist were much different. In Nazi Germany when you spoke out against the govt the Gestapo took you away, in soviet East Germany if you spoke out against the govt the Stazi took you away. Big difference.

I read an article where the historian author said the difference between socialism and fascism were that socialism is global in outlook, fascism is national in outlook and often racial. The only other difference is that fascism has the facade of private ownership, you may own the steel mill but just like in socialism, the govt controls it.

And liberalism is not the opposite of fascism, a constitutional conservative is the closest thing I can think of to a polar opposite of fascism. Seperation of powers and states rights are not exactly the basis of fascism. Even my liberal friends have a bad habit of supporting the centralizing of power at the federal level. Fascists love that.

What was socialist about Nazi's?

Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian

"The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.

What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners."

Hitler and the socialist dream

Hitler's discovery was that socialism could be national as well as international. There could be a national socialism. That is how he reportedly talked to his fellow Nazi Otto Wagener in the early 1930s. The socialism of the future would lie in "the community of the volk", not in internationalism, he claimed, and his task was to "convert the German volk to socialism without simply killing off the old individualists", meaning the entrepreneurial and managerial classes left from the age of liberalism. They should be used, not destroyed. The state could control, after all, without owning, guided by a single party, the economy could be planned and directed without dispossessing the propertied classes.

The fact remains that companies remained capitalist and aristocrats prospered unless they were Jewish or protested Nazi policy. Of course they had to do what the Nazis wanted, and the great majority were happy to. Not socialists at all. They were all in concentration camps DUHHHH, dupe. This is all brand new GOP/dupe revisionism.

Brand new? Ludwig Von Mises died in 1973. As I said earlier, private ownership of the means of production in Nazi Germany was a facade.

Look at the 25 point National Socialist Program, hardly a ringing endorsement of capitalism.

National Socialist Program - Wikipedia

Poor Ludwig, having his words twisted by 21st century lying GOP and dupe like you.

Their program was also pure propaganda and lies for RW dupes ONLY.

 

[baileyn45]

I've twisted nothing, if you have an issue with his take on Nazi Germany have at it.

The fact remains that both the "socialist" Soviets and the "fascist" Nazis were both authoritarian regimes that sought to control every aspect of society. Whether you are talking about the means of production, the political indoctrination of children in school, the inability to criticise the govt, control of the police and justice systems, control of who can and cannot hold public office, the absolute control of the economy, absolute control of the press, (I could go on) there is little difference between the Soviets and the Nazis.

 

[francoHFW]

I've twisted nothing, if you have an issue with his take on Nazi Germany have at it.

The fact remains that both the "socialist" Soviets and the "fascist" Nazis were both authoritarian regimes that sought to control every aspect of society. Whether you are talking about the means of production, the political indoctrination of children in school, the inability to criticise the govt, control of the police and justice systems, control of who can and cannot hold public office, the absolute control of the economy, absolute control of the press, (I could go on) there is little difference between the Soviets and the Nazis.

Soviets were COMMUNIST, dupe, and socialists have been DEMOCRATIC by definition since about 1930 EVERYWHERE but dupe world, when the USSR's evil was revealed.