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Time for the wingnuts to admit there is no Liberal Media, just corporate media.
Campaign Press Adopts The Trump Rules -- They're The Opposite Of The Clinton Rules
Soft On Trump, Tough On Clinton
Switching back and forth between MSNBC and CNN last Thursday night as they aired competing, hour-long interviews with Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, viewers ran the risk of whiplash. The threat lingered not just because Clinton and Trump were on opposite ends of the political spectrum, but because the tone and tenor of the two events seemed dramatically different.
Here were some of the questions posed to Clinton from the MSNBC event's co-moderators, NBC's Chuck Todd and Telemundo's José Díaz-Balart:
- "What would you do to make possible that the [Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival] students become permanent residents?"
- "Would you ever imagine raising the retirement age in the next 10 years?"
- "Do you foresee a time when the federal government would be able to include the undocumented [workers] in federal grants for education?"
- "Should people start paying Social Security taxes on income over $120,000?"
- "Is a presidential visit [to Cuba] a step too far? Would a President Clinton be going this quickly?"
By contrast, here were some of the questions posed to Trump from the CNN moderator, Anderson Cooper:
- "What do you eat when you roll up at a McDonald's, what does - what does Donald Trump order?"
- "What's your favorite kind of music?"
- "How many hours a night do you sleep?"
- "What kind of a parent are you?"
- "What is one thing you wish you didn't do?"
HADIT SAID:
"This old canard again? Why are we still attempting to make the case that the major media has no bias?"
Their bias is ratings, profit, and money – not a particular political ideology, or advancing a particular political agenda – the old canard is the 'liberal media.'
And it's just a total coincidence that an overwhelming majority of "journalists" and on air personalities self describe as liberals? It's laughable that you folks on the Left utterly refuse to admit that there is a liberal bias in main stream media, Clayton! It's so obvious that there is...to deny it makes you look like an idiot.
You want to claim that even though most of the people working in main stream media are liberals...all they care about is profits? Hmmm...if that WERE true...what does it say about those liberals in general...that they put profit over principle?
MSNBC should change their call letters to ATATT (All Trump All The Time).
If conservatives are correct, most news anchors self-describe themselves as liberals, and if conservatives are correct, networks are in it for the commercial $$$/ratings - how do conservatives square that with; America is a center right country? I agree the media are in it for the ratings/commercial $$$, so the question is why would conservative media moguls, company decision makers, etc. hire and program news anchors whose self-described political ideology runs counter to their audience?
As I Googled around looking for news anchors that self-describe their political bias/party, I found a lot of rightwing opinions/accusations/insinuations but very few news anchors that self-describe their political bias/party.
If, as conservatives think, MSNBC is the most liberal of the liberal media, how is it that, on a daily basis they program three hours of Joe (I'm a conservative Republican) Scarborough, one hour of Andrea Greenspan-Mitchell, one hour of Chuck (it's not my job to fact check Romney) Todd, one hour of Chris (the centrist) Matthews...?
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HADIT SAID:
"This old canard again? Why are we still attempting to make the case that the major media has no bias?"
Their bias is ratings, profit, and money – not a particular political ideology, or advancing a particular political agenda – the old canard is the 'liberal media.'
And it's just a total coincidence that an overwhelming majority of "journalists" and on air personalities self describe as liberals? It's laughable that you folks on the Left utterly refuse to admit that there is a liberal bias in main stream media, Clayton! It's so obvious that there is...to deny it makes you look like an idiot.
You want to claim that even though most of the people working in main stream media are liberals...all they care about is profits? Hmmm...if that WERE true...what does it say about those liberals in general...that they put profit over principle?
MSNBC should change their call letters to ATATT (All Trump All The Time).
If conservatives are correct, most news anchors self-describe themselves as liberals, and if conservatives are correct, networks are in it for the commercial $$$/ratings - how do conservatives square that with; America is a center right country? I agree the media are in it for the ratings/commercial $$$, so the question is why would conservative media moguls, company decision makers, etc. hire and program news anchors whose self-described political ideology runs counter to their audience?
As I Googled around looking for news anchors that self-describe their political bias/party, I found a lot of rightwing opinions/accusations/insinuations but very few news anchors that self-describe their political bias/party.
If, as conservatives think, MSNBC is the most liberal of the liberal media, how is it that, on a daily basis they program three hours of Joe (I'm a conservative Republican) Scarborough, one hour of Andrea Greenspan-Mitchell, one hour of Chuck (it's not my job to fact check Romney) Todd, one hour of Chris (the centrist) Matthews...?
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The nighttime hosts are: Maddow, Hayes, O'Donnell, and Matthews, although he's pretty Centrist.False. Come up with an example, with links.And for you to come on here and list MSNBC's Chuck Todd as your "source" to prove that the media isn't liberal is about as absurd as it gets since MSNBC is the POSTER CHILD for liberal bias in the media!
Are you seriously saying that MSNBC isn't liberally biased? There's stupid...Synth...and then there is EMBARRASSINGLY STUPID!
No, it shows how batsit crazy of an extremist you are.The fact that you think Chris Matthews is a "centrist" simply shows how skewed your world view is!
The nighttime hosts are: Maddow, Hayes, O'Donnell, and Matthews, although he's pretty Centrist.False. Come up with an example, with links.And for you to come on here and list MSNBC's Chuck Todd as your "source" to prove that the media isn't liberal is about as absurd as it gets since MSNBC is the POSTER CHILD for liberal bias in the media!
Are you seriously saying that MSNBC isn't liberally biased? There's stupid...Synth...and then there is EMBARRASSINGLY STUPID!
The rest of the news is not. If you believe it is, produce an example.
No, it shows how batsit crazy of an extremist you are.The fact that you think Chris Matthews is a "centrist" simply shows how skewed your world view is!
No, it shows how batsit crazy of an extremist you are.The fact that you think Chris Matthews is a "centrist" simply shows how skewed your world view is!
I'm an "extremist" because I think Chris Matthews is a liberal?
The difference between you and me, Synth...is that I readily admit that Sean Hannity is a far right conservative. To do anything else would be talking out of my ass. When you come here and declare that Chris Matthews is a "centrist" that's EXACTLY what you're doing!
No, you're just pretty ignorant. Maddow is a Liberal. Matthews is a Centrist.No, it shows how batsit crazy of an extremist you are.The fact that you think Chris Matthews is a "centrist" simply shows how skewed your world view is!
I'm an "extremist" because I think Chris Matthews is a liberal?
The difference between you and me, Synth...is that I readily admit that Sean Hannity is a far right conservative. To do anything else would be talking out of my ass. When you come here and declare that Chris Matthews is a "centrist" that's EXACTLY what you're doing!
That is the correct motorcycle. It does appear, that by self-identifying as democrats and liberals, the majority of the media is admitting to bias. It is cute, therefore, that so many outside the media are clamoring the opposite, as if they know better than the media figures.HADIT SAID:
"This old canard again? Why are we still attempting to make the case that the major media has no bias?"
Their bias is ratings, profit, and money – not a particular political ideology, or advancing a particular political agenda – the old canard is the 'liberal media.'
And it's just a total coincidence that an overwhelming majority of "journalists" and on air personalities self describe as liberals? It's laughable that you folks on the Left utterly refuse to admit that there is a liberal bias in main stream media, Clayton! It's so obvious that there is...to deny it makes you look like an idiot.
You want to claim that even though most of the people working in main stream media are liberals...all they care about is profits? Hmmm...if that WERE true...what does it say about those liberals in general...that they put profit over principle?
Something tells me that if media figures self identified as Republican or conservative by a 2 or 3 to 1 margin, that this discussion would be a little different.It's time for you and others on the right to get over the 'liberal media' myth:HADIT SAID:
"This old canard again? Why are we still attempting to make the case that the major media has no bias?"
Their bias is ratings, profit, and money – not a particular political ideology, or advancing a particular political agenda – the old canard is the 'liberal media.'
And it's just a total coincidence that an overwhelming majority of "journalists" and on air personalities self describe as liberals? It's laughable that you folks on the Left utterly refuse to admit that there is a liberal bias in main stream media, Clayton! It's so obvious that there is...to deny it makes you look like an idiot.
You want to claim that even though most of the people working in main stream media are liberals...all they care about is profits? Hmmm...if that WERE true...what does it say about those liberals in general...that they put profit over principle?
'Impugning the motives of those we've entrusted with separating fiction from fact has proven an effective strategy for the right. Don't agree with a judicial decision? Blame the "activist" judge. Think an academic paper might be damaging to your cause? No worries. Academia is "liberal" and "elitist." Worried that global warming might prove nettlesome? It's the product of scientists harboring a "hidden agenda."
And today a news media that might otherwise be making reasoned judgments about what's news and what isn't has become so cowed by conservative complaints that just about any allegation, no matter how outlandish, must receive "equal time."
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But suggest that the media might not be so liberal after all, and you elicit ferocious conservative push-back. Just ask Chuck Todd. Last week, when he said media bias was a myth, the conservative response was perhaps best typified by Greg Gutfeld's 90 second uninterrupted monologue on Fox, which I think can be fairly boiled down to: The media is liberal because the media is liberal and it's preposterous to think otherwise.'
Breaking News: Skepticism of Conservative Ideas Requires No Bias
Indeed, it's an article of religious faith among conservatives that 'the media' are 'liberal,' in spite of the fact that there is no evidence whatsoever to support such a ridiculous claim.
That is the correct motorcycle. It does appear, that by self-identifying as democrats and liberals, the majority of the media is admitting to bias.HADIT SAID:
"This old canard again? Why are we still attempting to make the case that the major media has no bias?"
Their bias is ratings, profit, and money – not a particular political ideology, or advancing a particular political agenda – the old canard is the 'liberal media.'
And it's just a total coincidence that an overwhelming majority of "journalists" and on air personalities self describe as liberals? It's laughable that you folks on the Left utterly refuse to admit that there is a liberal bias in main stream media, Clayton! It's so obvious that there is...to deny it makes you look like an idiot.
You want to claim that even though most of the people working in main stream media are liberals...all they care about is profits? Hmmm...if that WERE true...what does it say about those liberals in general...that they put profit over principle?
Like I said before, it is almost impossible for people to be completely objective, and when the majority of those who not only choose which events are to be reported on, but decide how to report the story all think the same way, it is inevitable that their version of the "news" will reflect their unintentional bias. I will never forget one of the most blatant demonstrations of the media hive mind when they all discovered the word "gravitas" at the same time when Dick Cheney was picked to be the next VP. It was obvious that they all read from the same source and didn't even think about how it would make their reporting look.That is the correct motorcycle. It does appear, that by self-identifying as democrats and liberals, the majority of the media is admitting to bias.HADIT SAID:
"This old canard again? Why are we still attempting to make the case that the major media has no bias?"
Their bias is ratings, profit, and money – not a particular political ideology, or advancing a particular political agenda – the old canard is the 'liberal media.'
And it's just a total coincidence that an overwhelming majority of "journalists" and on air personalities self describe as liberals? It's laughable that you folks on the Left utterly refuse to admit that there is a liberal bias in main stream media, Clayton! It's so obvious that there is...to deny it makes you look like an idiot.
You want to claim that even though most of the people working in main stream media are liberals...all they care about is profits? Hmmm...if that WERE true...what does it say about those liberals in general...that they put profit over principle?
No one has yet explained how.
What, anyone who classifies his/her own personal ideology differently from the way you classify yours is "biased"? Dooooon't think so.
No, you're just pretty ignorant. Maddow is a Liberal. Matthews is a Centrist.No, it shows how batsit crazy of an extremist you are.The fact that you think Chris Matthews is a "centrist" simply shows how skewed your world view is!
I'm an "extremist" because I think Chris Matthews is a liberal?
The difference between you and me, Synth...is that I readily admit that Sean Hannity is a far right conservative. To do anything else would be talking out of my ass. When you come here and declare that Chris Matthews is a "centrist" that's EXACTLY what you're doing!
No, it shows how batsit crazy of an extremist you are.The fact that you think Chris Matthews is a "centrist" simply shows how skewed your world view is!
I'm an "extremist" because I think Chris Matthews is a liberal?
The difference between you and me, Synth...is that I readily admit that Sean Hannity is a far right conservative. To do anything else would be talking out of my ass. When you come here and declare that Chris Matthews is a "centrist" that's EXACTLY what you're doing!
Obviously you haven't watched MSNBC or Chris Matthews recently. Matthews is left of rightwing extremists but right of the Democratic Party - Blue Dog-----blue dog...at best.
Matthews, Hannity, O'reilly, Limbaugh, etc. have all aligned themselves with big oil, big pharma, big finance, the Koch Bros, the six media corporations that control about 90% of all media in the United States, as well as many other extreme rightwingers, against Bernie Sanders.
It's possible you're overlooking the fact that most of the talking heads are millionaires many times over - a couple of factors to consider when you're watching self described "news" networks like Fox and self described opinion ("A Place For Politics") shows like the shows on MSNBC is; these folks want, above all else, protect their multi-million dollar salaries and will carry water for their billionaire bosses to that end and-----and most of these shows originate in New York and Washington DC, most of these folks belong to the same clubs, vacation in the same exclusive resorts, go to the same restaurants and bars, date and have affairs with the same people, run into each other on the street and buy their illegal $100+ Cuban cigars from the same dealers... that said...
...Chris Matthews gave D. Trump the gift of a documentary/infomercial about the candidate that doesn't accept donations life, titled "Citizen Trump" then-----then gave up his primetime slot to run D. Trump's infomercial at no charge to the candidate then-----then ran it in multiple time slots on MSNBC, again at no charge to the candidate. Production costs and free time for the candidate on MSNBC undoubtedly has run into the millions of dollars -- I'd guess Matthews is feeling the tingle run down his leg again - this time for D. Trump.
Olbermann leaves Chris Matthews off 'thank you' list on final show
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Yet when the Republicans get blown out again this November you'll blame the Liberal Media that no one watches.You may not have gotten the memo on this, Star but NOBODY watches MSNBC!
Yet when the Republicans get blown out again this November you'll blame the Liberal Media that no one watches.You may not have gotten the memo on this, Star but NOBODY watches MSNBC!
Pathetic.
Time for the wingnuts to admit there is no Liberal Media, just corporate media.
Campaign Press Adopts The Trump Rules -- They're The Opposite Of The Clinton Rules
Soft On Trump, Tough On Clinton
Switching back and forth between MSNBC and CNN last Thursday night as they aired competing, hour-long interviews with Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, viewers ran the risk of whiplash. The threat lingered not just because Clinton and Trump were on opposite ends of the political spectrum, but because the tone and tenor of the two events seemed dramatically different.
Here were some of the questions posed to Clinton from the MSNBC event's co-moderators, NBC's Chuck Todd and Telemundo's José Díaz-Balart:
- "What would you do to make possible that the [Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival] students become permanent residents?"
- "Would you ever imagine raising the retirement age in the next 10 years?"
- "Do you foresee a time when the federal government would be able to include the undocumented [workers] in federal grants for education?"
- "Should people start paying Social Security taxes on income over $120,000?"
- "Is a presidential visit [to Cuba] a step too far? Would a President Clinton be going this quickly?"
By contrast, here were some of the questions posed to Trump from the CNN moderator, Anderson Cooper:
- "What do you eat when you roll up at a McDonald's, what does - what does Donald Trump order?"
- "What's your favorite kind of music?"
- "How many hours a night do you sleep?"
- "What kind of a parent are you?"
- "What is one thing you wish you didn't do?"