Liberal War on Coal Industry is Now Hurting RR Workers.

[Picaro]

As I said before, solar will never completely replace NG, coal, or oil; it will become a bigger player, at least as far as residential energy consumption goes.

It wouldn't last 10 days without massive government subsidies.

Neither do any other types of power plants, so that isn't a real point.

Horseshit. Coal and gas fired power plants have never required subsidies of any kind.

lol all utilities get subsidized, and always have; that's why they are such good 'investments' and people like Warren Buffet buy them. And, the subsidies just keep on coming; they're now lobbying state govts. to treat them like REIT's, and they will certainly win that status sooner or later.. Can you guess why? ...

They aren't the best investments. However, they are safe investments. That's because they are legal monopolies. Not because they are subsidized. The only subsidies they receive are for so-called "green energy" boondoggles, not for coal or natural gas fired power plants.

They are extremely lucrative for the insiders who buy them. They get a lot more than ' green boondoggles', there are a whole raft of subsidies, tax breaks, monopoly bennies, legal protections, and no competition.

 

[bripat9643]

It wouldn't last 10 days without massive government subsidies.

Neither do any other types of power plants, so that isn't a real point.

Horseshit. Coal and gas fired power plants have never required subsidies of any kind.

lol all utilities get subsidized, and always have; that's why they are such good 'investments' and people like Warren Buffet buy them. And, the subsidies just keep on coming; they're now lobbying state govts. to treat them like REIT's, and they will certainly win that status sooner or later.. Can you guess why? ...

They aren't the best investments. However, they are safe investments. That's because they are legal monopolies. Not because they are subsidized. The only subsidies they receive are for so-called "green energy" boondoggles, not for coal or natural gas fired power plants.

They are extremely lucrative for the insiders who buy them. They get a lot more than ' green boondoggles', there are a whole raft of subsidies, tax breaks, monopoly bennies, legal protections, and no competition.

Wrong, they actually aren't lucrative investments. People buy them because they are safe, not because they offer a high rate of return. They are also a good place to put your money during recessions.

Other than subsidies for "green energy" boondoggles, They also don't get any tax breaks that every other corporation in America doesn't get. Monopoly protection is not a subsidy. And other than monopoly protection, what "legal protections" do they get?

You're obviously just making this shit up from whole cloth. You obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Liberal War on Coal"

This is a lie.

There is no "war" on coal, "liberal" or otherwise.

 

[hadit]

As coal cools off, railroads close tracks and cut jobs across the country
Just as lousy trade agreements such as Pacific Trade and NAFTA have ripple effect on workers in other industries so does the liberal war on coal being championed by Billary. If your a working class American the Democratic Party has dumped you over the side of the PC boat. Hillary and Democrats are concerned about two guys being able to marry and make out in public than providing well paying blue collar jobs. Guess most of the coal miners in West Virginia are white males so in the eyes of urban and suburban Dem's they are the enemy.

Apparently, a lot of democrat voters don't realize that their party has a very large contingent of wackadoodles.

 

[hadit]

"Liberal War on Coal"

This is a lie.

There is no "war" on coal, "liberal" or otherwise.

Have you just failed to do any research on this topic or are you being deliberately obtuse?

 

[OnePercenter]

"Liberal War on Coal"

This is a lie.

There is no "war" on coal, "liberal" or otherwise.

Have you just failed to do any research on this topic or are you being deliberately obtuse?

Natural gas is MUCH cheaper than coal. The capitalist racketeers made it so.

 

[OnePercenter]

As coal cools off, railroads close tracks and cut jobs across the country
Just as lousy trade agreements such as Pacific Trade and NAFTA have ripple effect on workers in other industries so does the liberal war on coal being championed by Billary. If your a working class American the Democratic Party has dumped you over the side of the PC boat. Hillary and Democrats are concerned about two guys being able to marry and make out in public than providing well paying blue collar jobs. Guess most of the coal miners in West Virginia are white males so in the eyes of urban and suburban Dem's they are the enemy.

Apparently, a lot of democrat voters don't realize that their party has a very large contingent of wackadoodles.

Donald Trump is a REPUBLICAN.

 

[Moonglow]

The whole economics of coal versus ng is a no brainer...Coal is ok if you have no petroleum, but petroleum is cheaper...Man, that was hard to finger out...

 

[hadit]

"Liberal War on Coal"

This is a lie.

There is no "war" on coal, "liberal" or otherwise.

Have you just failed to do any research on this topic or are you being deliberately obtuse?

Natural gas is MUCH cheaper than coal. The capitalist racketeers made it so.

No, new extraction techniques made it so.

 

[hadit]

As coal cools off, railroads close tracks and cut jobs across the country
Just as lousy trade agreements such as Pacific Trade and NAFTA have ripple effect on workers in other industries so does the liberal war on coal being championed by Billary. If your a working class American the Democratic Party has dumped you over the side of the PC boat. Hillary and Democrats are concerned about two guys being able to marry and make out in public than providing well paying blue collar jobs. Guess most of the coal miners in West Virginia are white males so in the eyes of urban and suburban Dem's they are the enemy.

Apparently, a lot of democrat voters don't realize that their party has a very large contingent of wackadoodles.

Donald Trump is a REPUBLICAN.

Bugs Bunny is a CARTOON.

 

[bripat9643]

The whole economics of coal versus ng is a no brainer...Coal is ok if you have no petroleum, but petroleum is cheaper...Man, that was hard to finger out...

Wrong, moron, petroleum is not cheaper than coal. It is seldom used for power generation for that very reason. NG is not petroleum of even a distillate of petroleum.

You should shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself further.

 

[OnePercenter]

Neither do any other types of power plants, so that isn't a real point.

Horseshit. Coal and gas fired power plants have never required subsidies of any kind.

lol all utilities get subsidized, and always have; that's why they are such good 'investments' and people like Warren Buffet buy them. And, the subsidies just keep on coming; they're now lobbying state govts. to treat them like REIT's, and they will certainly win that status sooner or later.. Can you guess why? ...

They aren't the best investments. However, they are safe investments. That's because they are legal monopolies. Not because they are subsidized. The only subsidies they receive are for so-called "green energy" boondoggles, not for coal or natural gas fired power plants.

They are extremely lucrative for the insiders who buy them. They get a lot more than ' green boondoggles', there are a whole raft of subsidies, tax breaks, monopoly bennies, legal protections, and no competition.

Wrong, they actually aren't lucrative investments. People buy them because they are safe, not because they offer a high rate of return. They are also a good place to put your money during recessions.

Other than subsidies for "green energy" boondoggles, They also don't get any tax breaks that every other corporation in America doesn't get. Monopoly protection is not a subsidy. And other than monopoly protection, what "legal protections" do they get?

You're obviously just making this shit up from whole cloth. You obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Green energy boondoggles such as PUC Republican appointees have allowed Nevada Energy to pay homeowners making excess power less than they pay other corporate sources. Capitalist racketeering at it's best.

In December 2015, the Public Utilities Commission of Nevada (PUCN), appointed by Nevada Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval, voted to slash net metering credits and raise fixed fees on solar customers by 40 percent, making it prohibitively expensive for most Nevadans to go solar, and also making it uneconomical for the over 17,000 people who had already switched to solar power. Many solar rooftop companies shut down, hundreds of solar workers lost their jobs and homeowners are left with higher energy bills than if they would never have gone solar.

Nevada Residents Fight Energy Monopoly's Attempts to Control Solar Power

 

[Moonglow]

The whole economics of coal versus ng is a no brainer...Coal is ok if you have no petroleum, but petroleum is cheaper...Man, that was hard to finger out...

Wrong, moron, petroleum is not cheaper than coal. It is seldom used for power generation for that very reason. NG is not petroleum of even a distillate of petroleum.

You should shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself further.

You mix oil and NG and get petroleum..Don't be silly....

 

[OnePercenter]

"Liberal War on Coal"

This is a lie.

There is no "war" on coal, "liberal" or otherwise.

Have you just failed to do any research on this topic or are you being deliberately obtuse?

Natural gas is MUCH cheaper than coal. The capitalist racketeers made it so.

No, new extraction techniques made it so.

Natural gas prices are set by the commodities market.

 

[OnePercenter]

As coal cools off, railroads close tracks and cut jobs across the country
Just as lousy trade agreements such as Pacific Trade and NAFTA have ripple effect on workers in other industries so does the liberal war on coal being championed by Billary. If your a working class American the Democratic Party has dumped you over the side of the PC boat. Hillary and Democrats are concerned about two guys being able to marry and make out in public than providing well paying blue collar jobs. Guess most of the coal miners in West Virginia are white males so in the eyes of urban and suburban Dem's they are the enemy.

Apparently, a lot of democrat voters don't realize that their party has a very large contingent of wackadoodles.

Donald Trump is a REPUBLICAN.

Bugs Bunny is a CARTOON.

Trump is a cartoon?

 

[OnePercenter]

The whole economics of coal versus ng is a no brainer...Coal is ok if you have no petroleum, but petroleum is cheaper...Man, that was hard to finger out...

Wrong, moron, petroleum is not cheaper than coal. It is seldom used for power generation for that very reason. NG is not petroleum of even a distillate of petroleum.

You should shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself further.

You mix oil and NG and get petroleum..Don't be silly....

Forgive him, he's Canadian.

 

[Moonglow]

The whole economics of coal versus ng is a no brainer...Coal is ok if you have no petroleum, but petroleum is cheaper...Man, that was hard to finger out...

Wrong, moron, petroleum is not cheaper than coal. It is seldom used for power generation for that very reason. NG is not petroleum of even a distillate of petroleum.

You should shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself further.

You mix oil and NG and get petroleum..Don't be silly....

Forgive him, he's Canadian.

I thought maybe a drunk Canuk that blows off great emotive clouds out his arse...

 

[bripat9643]

The whole economics of coal versus ng is a no brainer...Coal is ok if you have no petroleum, but petroleum is cheaper...Man, that was hard to finger out...

Wrong, moron, petroleum is not cheaper than coal. It is seldom used for power generation for that very reason. NG is not petroleum of even a distillate of petroleum.

You should shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself further.

You mix oil and NG and get petroleum..Don't be silly....

LIke I said, you should shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself further.

Petroleum is oil, dumbass.

 

[Moonglow]

The whole economics of coal versus ng is a no brainer...Coal is ok if you have no petroleum, but petroleum is cheaper...Man, that was hard to finger out...

Wrong, moron, petroleum is not cheaper than coal. It is seldom used for power generation for that very reason. NG is not petroleum of even a distillate of petroleum.

You should shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself further.

You mix oil and NG and get petroleum..Don't be silly....

LIke I said, you should shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself further.

Petroleum is oil, dumbass.

So is plastic, bitchy boy..

 

[BlindBoo]

As coal cools off, railroads close tracks and cut jobs across the country
Just as lousy trade agreements such as Pacific Trade and NAFTA have ripple effect on workers in other industries so does the liberal war on coal being championed by Billary. If your a working class American the Democratic Party has dumped you over the side of the PC boat. Hillary and Democrats are concerned about two guys being able to marry and make out in public than providing well paying blue collar jobs. Guess most of the coal miners in West Virginia are white males so in the eyes of urban and suburban Dem's they are the enemy.

Those Libs are doing a really bad job of waging war. Coal production in the US is about the same as it ever was. The number of workers has declined but mostly as a result of the switch from subsurface to surface mining. If you actually read your link you'd have learned the real reasons for the layoffs: Warm weather, low prices hit energy rail traffic in 2016. Or you thinks the Libs are now controlling the weather?

Then again....no

Since President Obama took office we've doubled our natural gas production.

U.S. Gas Plant Production of Natural Gas Liquids and Liquid Refinery Gases (Thousand Barrels)