Liberal War on Coal Industry is Now Hurting RR Workers.

[bripat9643]

ROFL! So one coal fired power plant has a 7% greater number of cancer cases than the surrounding area? You realize, of course, that there are such clusters all over the country, and the medical community has no idea what has caused most of them. You might have something credible if you found such a cluster around every coal fired power plant.

I have to apologize for being a bit slow and wasting your time.

Although I provided a number of studies, there is absolutely no evidence you would accept that contradicted your OP. You dismiss population studies as merely statistics and when I provide actual cases as you requested you dismiss them because there is no statistical evidence.

Those "actual cases" were for pollution caused by automobiles. They were correlated with living in an urban environment, now with coal fired power plants, and even the authors admitted there were other possible explanations than pollution.

You are right about one thing, I except no evidence from the pro-regulation lobby. Most of what I've seen is junk science. The EPA is well known for paying other organizations with an agenda for "research."

 

[Lakhota]

Where is all that "clean" coal I've seen advertised on TV. We need some of that...

 

[alang1216]

You are right about one thing, I except no evidence from the pro-regulation lobby.

Nor will you provide any from the anti-regulation lobby.

 

[bripat9643]

Where is all that "clean" coal I've seen advertised on TV. We need some of that...

Any coal fired power plant built since 1977 is clean.

 

[bripat9643]

You are right about one thing, I except no evidence from the pro-regulation lobby.

Nor will you provide any from the anti-regulation lobby.

The pro-regulation lobby provides all the evidence needed to indict it.

 

[Lakhota]

Where is all that "clean" coal I've seen advertised on TV. We need some of that...

Any coal fired power plant built since 1977 is clean.

How is it clean? You mean after it's burned - thanks to EPA regulations. What about the coal supply chain? Is that clean? What about the fly ash? Is that clean? Where does it go?

 

[bripat9643]

Where is all that "clean" coal I've seen advertised on TV. We need some of that...

Any coal fired power plant built since 1977 is clean.

How is it clean? You mean after it's burned - thanks to EPA regulations.

Are you admitting that it's clean, or claiming it isn't? What do EPA regulations from the 70s have to do with Obama's war on coal?

What about the coal supply chain? Is that clean? What about the fly ash? Is that clean? Where does it go?

What "coal supply chain?" They dig it out of the ground, put it in coal cars and send it to the power plant, which is often as little as 10 miles away.

The fly ash is retained in holding ponds until it can be buried.

 

[Bush92]

As coal cools off, railroads close tracks and cut jobs across the country
Just as lousy trade agreements such as Pacific Trade and NAFTA have ripple effect on workers in other industries so does the liberal war on coal being championed by Billary. If your a working class American the Democratic Party has dumped you over the side of the PC boat. Hillary and Democrats are concerned about two guys being able to marry and make out in public than providing well paying blue collar jobs. Guess most of the coal miners in West Virginia are white males so in the eyes of urban and suburban Dem's they are the enemy.

All you coal lovers should be donating money to funds that help miners with black lung and their families. It's the Godly Christian thing to do.

The UMW has pushed for tighter safety standards over the years. These men and their families need these jobs to survive. Hillary and Obama want to destroy these families.

 

[Lakhota]

As coal cools off, railroads close tracks and cut jobs across the country
Just as lousy trade agreements such as Pacific Trade and NAFTA have ripple effect on workers in other industries so does the liberal war on coal being championed by Billary. If your a working class American the Democratic Party has dumped you over the side of the PC boat. Hillary and Democrats are concerned about two guys being able to marry and make out in public than providing well paying blue collar jobs. Guess most of the coal miners in West Virginia are white males so in the eyes of urban and suburban Dem's they are the enemy.

All you coal lovers should be donating money to funds that help miners with black lung and their families. It's the Godly Christian thing to do.

The UMW has pushed for tighter safety standards over the years. These men and their families need these jobs to survive. Hillary and Obama want to destroy these families.

They need to adapt to a changing world. Opium farmers feel the same way.

 

[Bush92]

As coal cools off, railroads close tracks and cut jobs across the country
Just as lousy trade agreements such as Pacific Trade and NAFTA have ripple effect on workers in other industries so does the liberal war on coal being championed by Billary. If your a working class American the Democratic Party has dumped you over the side of the PC boat. Hillary and Democrats are concerned about two guys being able to marry and make out in public than providing well paying blue collar jobs. Guess most of the coal miners in West Virginia are white males so in the eyes of urban and suburban Dem's they are the enemy.

All you coal lovers should be donating money to funds that help miners with black lung and their families. It's the Godly Christian thing to do.

The UMW has pushed for tighter safety standards over the years. These men and their families need these jobs to survive. Hillary and Obama want to destroy these families.

They need to adapt to a changing world. Opium farmers feel the same way.

What's wrong with the world they live in now? Change is not needed. BTW comparing them to opium farmers shows your utter stupidity.

 

[alang1216]

You are right about one thing, I except no evidence from the pro-regulation lobby.

Nor will you provide any from the anti-regulation lobby.

The pro-regulation lobby provides all the evidence needed to indict it.

Translation: there is no evidence to refute it.

And yet another public health or science issue becomes a partisan political one.

 

[Old Rocks]

Where is all that "clean" coal I've seen advertised on TV. We need some of that...

Any coal fired power plant built since 1977 is clean.

How is it clean? You mean after it's burned - thanks to EPA regulations.

Are you admitting that it's clean, or claiming it isn't? What do EPA regulations from the 70s have to do with Obama's war on coal?

What about the coal supply chain? Is that clean? What about the fly ash? Is that clean? Where does it go?

What "coal supply chain?" They dig it out of the ground, put it in coal cars and send it to the power plant, which is often as little as 10 miles away.

The fly ash is retained in holding ponds until it can be buried.

Kingston Fossil Plant coal fly ash slurry spill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The TVA Kingston Fossil Plant coal fly ash slurry spill occurred just before 1 a.m. on Monday December 22, 2008, when an ash dike ruptured at an 84-acre (0.34 km2) solid waste containment area at the Tennessee Valley Authority'sKingston Fossil Plant in Roane County, Tennessee, USA. 1.1 billion US gallons (4,200,000 m3) of coal fly ash slurry was released. The coal-fired power plant, located across the Clinch River from the city of Kingston, uses ponds to dewater the fly ash, a byproduct of coal combustion, which is then stored in wet form in dredge cells. The slurry (a mixture of fly ash and water) traveled across the Emory River and its Swan Pond embayment, on to the opposite shore, covering up to 300 acres (1.2 km2) of the surrounding land, damaging homes and flowing up and down stream in nearby waterways such as the Emory River and Clinch River (tributaries of the Tennessee River). It was the largest fly ash release in United States history.

Sure, Pattycake, Sure.

 

[bripat9643]

You are right about one thing, I except no evidence from the pro-regulation lobby.

Nor will you provide any from the anti-regulation lobby.

The pro-regulation lobby provides all the evidence needed to indict it.

Translation: there is no evidence to refute it.

And yet another public health or science issue becomes a partisan political one.

I don't need evidence to refute it. You have to prove your claim is true. The evidence doesn't support your case. The authors of the evidence even admit it doesn't support their case. All these so-called "studies" have serious methodological flaws. They are propaganda, not science.

 

[bripat9643]

Where is all that "clean" coal I've seen advertised on TV. We need some of that...

Any coal fired power plant built since 1977 is clean.

How is it clean? You mean after it's burned - thanks to EPA regulations.

Are you admitting that it's clean, or claiming it isn't? What do EPA regulations from the 70s have to do with Obama's war on coal?

What about the coal supply chain? Is that clean? What about the fly ash? Is that clean? Where does it go?

What "coal supply chain?" They dig it out of the ground, put it in coal cars and send it to the power plant, which is often as little as 10 miles away.

The fly ash is retained in holding ponds until it can be buried.

Kingston Fossil Plant coal fly ash slurry spill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The TVA Kingston Fossil Plant coal fly ash slurry spill occurred just before 1 a.m. on Monday December 22, 2008, when an ash dike ruptured at an 84-acre (0.34 km2) solid waste containment area at the Tennessee Valley Authority'sKingston Fossil Plant in Roane County, Tennessee, USA. 1.1 billion US gallons (4,200,000 m3) of coal fly ash slurry was released. The coal-fired power plant, located across the Clinch River from the city of Kingston, uses ponds to dewater the fly ash, a byproduct of coal combustion, which is then stored in wet form in dredge cells. The slurry (a mixture of fly ash and water) traveled across the Emory River and its Swan Pond embayment, on to the opposite shore, covering up to 300 acres (1.2 km2) of the surrounding land, damaging homes and flowing up and down stream in nearby waterways such as the Emory River and Clinch River (tributaries of the Tennessee River). It was the largest fly ash release in United States history.

Sure, Pattycake, Sure.

Industrial accidents happen. They aren't a rational basis for eliminating an entire industry.. Apparently we should eliminate the EPA since it sent tons of poisonous mine waste flooding down the Colorado river.

 

[Freewill]

The whole problem will be solved by increasing the minimum wage to 15 dollars and allowing uncontrolled immigration, or should I say invasion? That seems to be obama's policy. And if we let her it will be Mrs. Tuzla Clinton's policy.

 

[SwimExpert]

As coal cools off, railroads close tracks and cut jobs across the country
Just as lousy trade agreements such as Pacific Trade and NAFTA have ripple effect on workers in other industries so does the liberal war on coal being championed by Billary. If your a working class American the Democratic Party has dumped you over the side of the PC boat. Hillary and Democrats are concerned about two guys being able to marry and make out in public than providing well paying blue collar jobs. Guess most of the coal miners in West Virginia are white males so in the eyes of urban and suburban Dem's they are the enemy.

This is not Atlas Shrugged. Old fashioned rail travel has been becoming increasingly superfluous for decades. Unless maglev technology advances sufficiently to be useful for such, long distance rail travel will soon be extinct because of it's inefficiency in the modern world. And it will have nothing to do with the coal industry.

 

[NYcarbineer]

As coal cools off, railroads close tracks and cut jobs across the country
Just as lousy trade agreements such as Pacific Trade and NAFTA have ripple effect on workers in other industries so does the liberal war on coal being championed by Billary. If your a working class American the Democratic Party has dumped you over the side of the PC boat. Hillary and Democrats are concerned about two guys being able to marry and make out in public than providing well paying blue collar jobs. Guess most of the coal miners in West Virginia are white males so in the eyes of urban and suburban Dem's they are the enemy.

More Republicans voted for NAFTA than did Democrats. Just because Trump is pandering to the protectionists doesn't mean that the mainstream of the Republican Party will support any actual changes he might attempt were he president.

 

[NYcarbineer]

When conservatives start pretending they're a friend of labor, it's time to hide your wallet and cover your ass.

 

[HenryBHough]

All you coal lovers should be donating money to funds that help miners with black lung and their families. It's the Godly Christian thing to do.

Please refrain from projecting your personal lack of generosity onto others.

 

[Picaro]

As for the coal industry, it will do fine; plenty of places to export it to.

Biggest private coal producer warns of cutting 80 percent of workforce, head blames Obama policies | Fox News
Sure.

You think this is the only slump the coal industry has ever had? You can find the same slumps throughout it's history.