Local Pennsylvania bridal shop harassed and threatened by LGBT activist after turning away same sex

[rightwinger]

I’m not sure if this document has any clout, or of it’s not worth the paper it’s written on as it’s guidance from the AG (no comments on him personally please) that can maybe simply be ignored, but I found some useful interesting sections:


2. The free exercise of religion includes the right to act or abstain from action in accordance with one's religious beliefs.

The Free Exercise Clause protects not just the right to believe or the right to worship; it protects the right to perform or abstain from performing certain physical acts in accordance with one's beliefs. Federal statutes, including the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 ("RFRA"), support that protection, broadly defining the exercise of religion to encompass all aspects of observance and practice, whether or not central to, or required by, a particular religious faith.

3. The freedom of religion extends to persons and organizations.

The Free Exercise Clause protects not just persons, but persons collectively exercising their religion through churches or other religious denominations, religious organizations, schools, private associations, and even businesses.

12. RFRA does not permit the federal government to second-guess the reasonableness of a religious belief.

RFRA applies to all sincerely held religious beliefs, whether or not central to, or mandated by, a particular religious organization or tradition. Religious adherents will often be required to draw lines in the application of their religious beliefs, and government is not competent to assess the reasonablenessofsuchlinesdrawn,
norwoulditbeappropriateforgovernmenttodoso. Thus, for example, a government agency may not second-guess the determination of a factory worker that, consistent with his religious precepts, he can work on a line producing steel that might someday make its way into armaments but cannot work on a line producing the armaments themselves. Nor may the Department of Health and Human Services second-guess the determination of a religious employer that providing contraceptive coverage to its employees would make the employer complicit in wrongdoing in violation of the organization's religious precepts.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-r...nload?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

Also, I believe that health workers in the US, for example nurses, are permitted to abstain from participating in procedures that they conscientiously object to, for example sex reassignment surgery, abortion etc.

Seems to open a can of worms

Must all laws be bent to accommodate religious beliefs. Where do you draw the line?

The Constitution.

Laws have priority over religious beliefs

Always have

Study your Constitution and study the part about religious beliefs and "free exercise thereof".

The Constitution requires separation of church and state

Also, read the 14th amendment

 

[bodecea]

Only twits believe that the law "violates the right of a Christian business owner and their belief that marriage is a male and female."

Anyone can believe that, and why not: that is a Constitutional right.

But in the public square the businessman has treat all fairly and squarely.

The way to get around it is not advertise publicly and go with word of mouth.

Nothing less than forced labor. Maybe force Jews and muslims to work in the bacon factory because gays like bacon.

Who forced them to get a business license? And where is it in their religion that gives permission to LIE when getting a business license, knowing they won't follow business law?

 

[Silhouette]

Who forced them to get a business license? And where is it in their religion that gives permission to LIE when getting a business license, knowing they won't follow business law?

You cannot be penalized in the trade of your dreams because of your faith, by another faith (cult of LGBT) that is seeking to make you become a heretic by legal-force.

 

[rightwinger]

Who forced them to get a business license? And where is it in their religion that gives permission to LIE when getting a business license, knowing they won't follow business law?

You cannot be penalized in the trade of your dreams because of your faith, by another faith (cult of LGBT) that is seeking to make you become a heretic by legal-force.

The laws still apply to you

 

[bodecea]

Who forced them to get a business license? And where is it in their religion that gives permission to LIE when getting a business license, knowing they won't follow business law?

You cannot be penalized in the trade of your dreams because of your faith, by another faith (cult of LGBT) that is seeking to make you become a heretic by legal-force.

What kind of idiot gets a business license in a field where they think they can ignore business law?

 

[bodecea]

Who forced them to get a business license? And where is it in their religion that gives permission to LIE when getting a business license, knowing they won't follow business law?

You cannot be penalized in the trade of your dreams because of your faith, by another faith (cult of LGBT) that is seeking to make you become a heretic by legal-force.

The laws still apply to you

Perhaps he believes because of his "religion" he doesn't have to follow the law.

 

[Rustic]

Gay people should be thankful because Christians do not try to kill them in countries that they control like the Muslims do. I also find gay people to be very inconsiderate and rude towards people they disagree with…

You heard it here, folks....Gay people should be thankful that christians don't kill us.

Well, If you tried to live in an Muslim controlled country you’d probably be dead already. I find you great comic relief...
Control freak nature and all

which means what, snooks? that you have the right to harass everyone who isn't a white, straight, Christian male?

fundies of all stripes need to go the way of the dinosaur.

You white people all look the same...

 

[Rustic]

I’m not sure if this document has any clout, or of it’s not worth the paper it’s written on as it’s guidance from the AG (no comments on him personally please) that can maybe simply be ignored, but I found some useful interesting sections:


2. The free exercise of religion includes the right to act or abstain from action in accordance with one's religious beliefs.

The Free Exercise Clause protects not just the right to believe or the right to worship; it protects the right to perform or abstain from performing certain physical acts in accordance with one's beliefs. Federal statutes, including the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 ("RFRA"), support that protection, broadly defining the exercise of religion to encompass all aspects of observance and practice, whether or not central to, or required by, a particular religious faith.

3. The freedom of religion extends to persons and organizations.

The Free Exercise Clause protects not just persons, but persons collectively exercising their religion through churches or other religious denominations, religious organizations, schools, private associations, and even businesses.

12. RFRA does not permit the federal government to second-guess the reasonableness of a religious belief.

RFRA applies to all sincerely held religious beliefs, whether or not central to, or mandated by, a particular religious organization or tradition. Religious adherents will often be required to draw lines in the application of their religious beliefs, and government is not competent to assess the reasonablenessofsuchlinesdrawn,
norwoulditbeappropriateforgovernmenttodoso. Thus, for example, a government agency may not second-guess the determination of a factory worker that, consistent with his religious precepts, he can work on a line producing steel that might someday make its way into armaments but cannot work on a line producing the armaments themselves. Nor may the Department of Health and Human Services second-guess the determination of a religious employer that providing contraceptive coverage to its employees would make the employer complicit in wrongdoing in violation of the organization's religious precepts.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-r...nload?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

Also, I believe that health workers in the US, for example nurses, are permitted to abstain from participating in procedures that they conscientiously object to, for example sex reassignment surgery, abortion etc.

Seems to open a can of worms

Must all laws be bent to accommodate religious beliefs. Where do you draw the line?

The Constitution.

Laws have priority over religious beliefs

Always have

Study your Constitution and study the part about religious beliefs and "free exercise thereof".

The Constitution requires separation of church and state

Also, read the 14th amendment

Lol
You silly little fucker, Nowhere in the Constitution does it say “separation of church and state” and you cannot prove it. So get your fucking politically correct head out of your fucking ass you worthless motherfucker.

 

[rightwinger]

Seems to open a can of worms

Must all laws be bent to accommodate religious beliefs. Where do you draw the line?

The Constitution.

Laws have priority over religious beliefs

Always have

Study your Constitution and study the part about religious beliefs and "free exercise thereof".

The Constitution requires separation of church and state

Also, read the 14th amendment

Lol
You silly little fucker, Nowhere in the Constitution does it say “separation of church and state” and you cannot prove it. So get your fucking politically correct head out of your fucking ass you worthless motherfucker.

Save it for another thread
The constitutional principal is well established

 

[BS Filter]

The Constitution.

Laws have priority over religious beliefs

Always have

Study your Constitution and study the part about religious beliefs and "free exercise thereof".

The Constitution requires separation of church and state

Also, read the 14th amendment

Lol
You silly little fucker, Nowhere in the Constitution does it say “separation of church and state” and you cannot prove it. So get your fucking politically correct head out of your fucking ass you worthless motherfucker.

Save it for another thread
The constitutional principal is well established

Slavery was "well established" when the Supreme Court upheld Dred Scott. How did that turn out?

 

[Rustic]

The Constitution.

Laws have priority over religious beliefs

Always have

Study your Constitution and study the part about religious beliefs and "free exercise thereof".

The Constitution requires separation of church and state

Also, read the 14th amendment

Lol
You silly little fucker, Nowhere in the Constitution does it say “separation of church and state” and you cannot prove it. So get your fucking politically correct head out of your fucking ass you worthless motherfucker.

Save it for another thread
The constitutional principal is well established

Where in the Constitution does it say separation of church and state please tell us

 

[Aba Incieni]

Only twits believe that the law "violates the right of a Christian business owner and their belief that marriage is a male and female."

Anyone can believe that, and why not: that is a Constitutional right.

But in the public square the businessman has treat all fairly and squarely.

The way to get around it is not advertise publicly and go with word of mouth.

Nothing less than forced labor. Maybe force Jews and muslims to work in the bacon factory because gays like bacon.

Who forced them to get a business license? And where is it in their religion that gives permission to LIE when getting a business license, knowing they won't follow business law?

They were asked to provide items they didn't offer on their business license application?

Since laws trump religion, should kosher delis be forced to provide BLT's?

 

[Rustic]

Laws have priority over religious beliefs

Always have

Study your Constitution and study the part about religious beliefs and "free exercise thereof".

The Constitution requires separation of church and state

Also, read the 14th amendment

Lol
You silly little fucker, Nowhere in the Constitution does it say “separation of church and state” and you cannot prove it. So get your fucking politically correct head out of your fucking ass you worthless motherfucker.

Save it for another thread
The constitutional principal is well established

Where in the Constitution does it say separation of church and state please tell us

...times up.... Because it does not say that in the constitution anywhere. LOL

 

[rightwinger]

Laws have priority over religious beliefs

Always have

Study your Constitution and study the part about religious beliefs and "free exercise thereof".

The Constitution requires separation of church and state

Also, read the 14th amendment

Lol
You silly little fucker, Nowhere in the Constitution does it say “separation of church and state” and you cannot prove it. So get your fucking politically correct head out of your fucking ass you worthless motherfucker.

Save it for another thread
The constitutional principal is well established

Slavery was "well established" when the Supreme Court upheld Dred Scott. How did that turn out?

Well then......good luck with overturning the separation of church and state

 

[bodecea]

Seems to open a can of worms

Must all laws be bent to accommodate religious beliefs. Where do you draw the line?

The Constitution.

Laws have priority over religious beliefs

Always have

Study your Constitution and study the part about religious beliefs and "free exercise thereof".

The Constitution requires separation of church and state

Also, read the 14th amendment

Lol
You silly little fucker, Nowhere in the Constitution does it say “separation of church and state” and you cannot prove it. So get your fucking politically correct head out of your fucking ass you worthless motherfucker.

You are right...there is no separation of church and state in the Constitution...therefore, it's perfectly ok for the State to tell someone getting a business license to get stuffed if they want to wave their religion around as an excuse to not follow business law.

 

[Rustic]

The Constitution.

Laws have priority over religious beliefs

Always have

Study your Constitution and study the part about religious beliefs and "free exercise thereof".

The Constitution requires separation of church and state

Also, read the 14th amendment

Lol
You silly little fucker, Nowhere in the Constitution does it say “separation of church and state” and you cannot prove it. So get your fucking politically correct head out of your fucking ass you worthless motherfucker.

You are right...there is no separation of church and state in the Constitution...therefore, it's perfectly ok for the State to tell someone getting a business license to get stuffed if they want to wave their religion around as an excuse to not follow business law.

True, it is a states issue not federal one...

 

[Aba Incieni]

The Constitution.

Laws have priority over religious beliefs

Always have

Study your Constitution and study the part about religious beliefs and "free exercise thereof".

The Constitution requires separation of church and state

Also, read the 14th amendment

Lol
You silly little fucker, Nowhere in the Constitution does it say “separation of church and state” and you cannot prove it. So get your fucking politically correct head out of your fucking ass you worthless motherfucker.

You are right...there is no separation of church and state in the Constitution...therefore, it's perfectly ok for the State to tell someone getting a business license to get stuffed if they want to wave their religion around as an excuse to not follow business law.

Like say, a kosher deli that sells sandwiches but not a certain kind because of their religion?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Only twits believe that the law "violates the right of a Christian business owner and their belief that marriage is a male and female."

Anyone can believe that, and why not: that is a Constitutional right.

But in the public square the businessman has treat all fairly and squarely.

The way to get around it is not advertise publicly and go with word of mouth.

No one forfeits their Constitutional rights when they have a business. Your corrupt laws have overstepped the Constitution. The USSC will fix it.

Your corrupt thinking is kept from violating people's civil liberties in the public square. No one gives a phuc what you do at home.

 

[Rustic]

Only twits believe that the law "violates the right of a Christian business owner and their belief that marriage is a male and female."

Anyone can believe that, and why not: that is a Constitutional right.

But in the public square the businessman has treat all fairly and squarely.

The way to get around it is not advertise publicly and go with word of mouth.

No one forfeits their Constitutional rights when they have a business. Your corrupt laws have overstepped the Constitution. The USSC will fix it.

Your corrupt thinking is kept from violating people's civil liberties in the public square. No one gives a phuc what you do at home.

Actually the collective does, it’s a progressive thing you definitely understand

 

[bodecea]

Laws have priority over religious beliefs

Always have

Study your Constitution and study the part about religious beliefs and "free exercise thereof".

The Constitution requires separation of church and state

Also, read the 14th amendment

Lol
You silly little fucker, Nowhere in the Constitution does it say “separation of church and state” and you cannot prove it. So get your fucking politically correct head out of your fucking ass you worthless motherfucker.

Save it for another thread
The constitutional principal is well established

Slavery was "well established" when the Supreme Court upheld Dred Scott. How did that turn out?

The 13th Amendment......planning on getting an Amendment passed, are you?