Looks like the GOP is headed toward yet another embarrassing failure in governing

The American people voted for HRC.

She lost 30 states and Trump became the president.

You said people in your previous post, now you switched to states. Why is that?

I mean I know why you switched. And you know why you switched. But it will be fun to watch you contort yourself to not have to answer the question.

:itsok: people in 30 states kicked Hillary to the curb, told her to go to hell, told liberals to fuck off, and voted Trump president, including people in 3 blue states.

lol, what happened to the PEOPLE in your PEOPLE post?

Ask a 5th grader to explain it to you dummy I'm not playing your stupid game.

Do you work at the circus?

Because your contortionist skills are amazing.
 
Dem's don't wish to discuss how they lost the support of the American people.

The American people voted for HRC.

She lost 30 states and Trump became the president.

You said people in your previous post, now you switched to states. Why is that?

I mean I know why you switched. And you know why you switched. But it will be fun to watch you contort yourself to not have to answer the question.

:itsok: people in 30 states kicked Hillary to the curb, told her to go to hell, told liberals to fuck off, and voted Trump president, including people in 3 blue states.

I thought this was a nation of 50 states made up of people. Is it not?

Conservatives support minority rule. That's because they're a minority.
 
I thought this was a nation of 50 states made up of people. Is it not?

Are you a Canadian or something? Do you know how presidents are elected in the USA? :itsok:

So wait, the U.S. isn't made up of 50 states and those states aren't full of people who vote?

Its still funny that Trump whooped your ass. He took on Hillary, the Dem party, the liberal media and crushed you like a bug. :laugh:

Aside from the fact Trump lost the popular vote, his margin in the Electoral College isn’t all that high, either. Bottom third.

There was no popular vote to lose idiot, and winning 30 states and over 300 electoral votes is hardly a marginal win. You people are just butthurt sore losers, shocker.

So Clinton and Obama each won two landslides?
 
The American people voted for HRC.

She lost 30 states and Trump became the president.

You said people in your previous post, now you switched to states. Why is that?

I mean I know why you switched. And you know why you switched. But it will be fun to watch you contort yourself to not have to answer the question.

:itsok: people in 30 states kicked Hillary to the curb, told her to go to hell, told liberals to fuck off, and voted Trump president, including people in 3 blue states.

I thought this was a nation of 50 states made up of people. Is it not?

Conservatives support minority rule. That's because they're a minority.

Careful now, they're going to think you just called them black.
 
When Republicans lose the House, The Senate, the majority of the Governorship's, a big chunk of State Senate seats across the country and do it in less than 8 years. Then I'll call it an embarrassment of Governance

Dem's don't wish to discuss how they lost the support of the American people.

The American people voted for HRC.

She lost 30 states and Trump became the president.

You said people in your previous post, now you switched to states. Why is that?

I mean I know why you switched. And you know why you switched. But it will be fun to watch you contort yourself to not have to answer the question.

:itsok: people in 30 states kicked Hillary to the curb, told her to go to hell, told liberals to fuck off, and voted Trump president, including people in 3 blue states.

The topic of the thread is the failure of the GOP to govern. No wonder you don't want to talk about that.
 
Only ten months and the hypocrite left's 401K's are solvent and the DOW is in record territory while illegal immigration is down 80% and the left still dreams, works toward and hopes for failure. What a bunch.
 
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My gut says the bill will pass, but I'd prefer it did not.

It's unclear to me whether the "deficit hawks" who oppose the current bill will be more moved by (or countenance being perceived so) the need for a political "win" than they will be by their commitment to curtailing deficit spending.

Dear Xelor
After hearing Mark Levin rant and rave over how contradictory this bill is
to Conservative principles of lowering taxes for everyone and reducing govt,
it seems that if it passes, it may be because it has the added filler pork to feed the corporate hogs.

Similar to how Obama had to buy votes, and "feed the corporate pigs" where the ACA did not
meet the actual goals intended, but just served as "passing something to legitimize
his presidency and claim he effectively did what he promised to do"

CC: TheOldSchool
the difference is
(a) the Democrats PASSED their loaded crap
(b) the Republicans are only trying to GET RID of what Democrats have passed
So they are still acting in a "passive" role of REACTING to what the other group has done.

Even if both sides fail and end up losing office,
it still remains that the Democrats get their crap passed and Republicans are just reacting to that.
If they fail to remove it, they still are going to get kicked out, so they lose either way.

The Democrats are still divided as a party over the Clinton/Sanders workers' split with the unions.
But the damage is already done by Obama. Now both parties are stuck in division where they
can't agree what to replace what with! So the Democrat sword is still stuck in the wound
and there is no united leadership to call to remove it.

This is why you don't pass unconstitutional legislation that the govt had no authority to regulate in the first place.
There is a reason govt is not supposed to regulate areas of personal liberty and decision
because people cannot agree nationally on policies that affect our individual choices that are as DIVERSE as we are.
Mistake to begin with. That's why the Constitution was written to wisely limit the authority of federal govt to keep it OUT of
affairs of people and states decided locally and individually. Big fat duh!

As for the simplest way to fix tax bills and ending conflict over who pays what for which programs:
the mandates should be made optional, and also allow separate choices of ALL tax policies
that touch on conflicting areas of "political beliefs" so taxpayers have an equal CHOICE of
"which plan to fund." That way, both major parties can manage social programs for their
own members based on AGREED collective taxes and terms, and NOT interfere with other
people's rights and beliefs to organize, run and fund their OWN social programs through their OWN parties.
And just deduct the business or charity expenses from taxes, and manage social programs locally by group or by state.

What I would recommend, based on parties' political beliefs their members may agree to fund voluntarily:
* Let the Democrats deduct investments from taxes to invest in prison and mental health reform
and use those resources and facilities to provide medical education and service programs for "universal health care."
* Let Republicans take on VA reform, and expand those services to provide for veteran, elderly and disabled care.
* The Greens, workers unions and socialists can take on schools and immigration detention to
create workers coops, production facilities, workstudy jobs, and other safe supervised construction
jobs to develop the border as sustainable campus towns combining education, training, jobs and services
for residents enrolled LEGALLY while screening out criminals with records for which they owe restitution.
* Libertarians and Constitutionalists can focus on democratizing a grand jury and grievance process
by which all citizens can access, issue and resolve complaints of govt abuses at all levels from local to national.
In order to finance the corrections and the work in reform, reconstruction and development,
it will take teams to asses the debts and damages done by govt and corporate abuses at taxpayer expense,
and work out fair proportionate settlement plans for wrongdoers to pay back the public costs they incurred,
while holding property and programs as collateral to lend against these debts in order to track the credits
owned to taxpayers, and apply that credit toward financing the corrections and reforms until the debts are paid back.
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After hearing Mark Levin rant and rave over how contradictory this bill is to Conservative principles of lowering taxes for everyone and reducing govt,
it seems that if it passes, it may be because it has the added filler pork to feed the corporate hogs.

Seriously? Does a tax bill truly need more than a 15% reduction in the marginal corporate tax rate in order to pass?

Frankly, I think anyone answering "yes" to that question needs to have their "head examined" more so than do top-tax-bracket corporations need to attenuate their avarice.
 
The Republican senators who will decide tax reform: Where they stand

Two senators have said they will not vote for the bill in its current form. A few others expressed disappointment towards the bill without giving an answer on what their vote will be.

What’s worse, is that if concessions are made in the bill to appease these senators, it may change other “yeses” to “noes”.

How about you cons just admit how terrible the GOP is at governing? If this fails, Trump will be the first modern president to not achieve any major legislation working with congress for his first year in office.

Meh, that’s what happens when you try to fight the swamp. The swamp doesn’t go down easily.
 
Only ten months and the hypocrite left's 401K's are solvent and the DOW is in record territory while illegal immigration is down 80% and the left still dreams, works toward and hopes for failure. What a bunch.
I'd been doing pretty well with stocks before Trump's Nov Surprise. But that doesn't help the schmucks in the rust belt.
 
I thought this was a nation of 50 states made up of people. Is it not?

Are you a Canadian or something? Do you know how presidents are elected in the USA? :itsok:

So wait, the U.S. isn't made up of 50 states and those states aren't full of people who vote?

Its still funny that Trump whooped your ass. He took on Hillary, the Dem party, the liberal media and crushed you like a bug. :laugh:

Aside from the fact Trump lost the popular vote, his margin in the Electoral College isn’t all that high, either. Bottom third.

There was no popular vote to lose idiot, and winning 30 states and over 300 electoral votes is hardly a marginal win. You people are just butthurt sore losers, shocker.

Out of 56 elections The Great Grabby One's margin of victory was 46th. Of course there is a popular vote. He lost that bigly. It was the biglyist lost in the popular vote by anyone winning the EC in our history. I have feeling the country will rectify that in a few years.
 
When president Trump is in his second term and he's had some time to drain the deep state and get his appointments in, things will be running a lot smoother.

Democrats will still be RESISTING, screaming helplessly at the sky, and wishing on a star that Hitlery were president, and they will be even more irrelevant than they already are.
 
Are you a Canadian or something? Do you know how presidents are elected in the USA? :itsok:

So wait, the U.S. isn't made up of 50 states and those states aren't full of people who vote?

Its still funny that Trump whooped your ass. He took on Hillary, the Dem party, the liberal media and crushed you like a bug. :laugh:

Aside from the fact Trump lost the popular vote, his margin in the Electoral College isn’t all that high, either. Bottom third.

There was no popular vote to lose idiot, and winning 30 states and over 300 electoral votes is hardly a marginal win. You people are just butthurt sore losers, shocker.

Out of 56 elections The Great Grabby One's margin of victory was 46th. Of course there is a popular vote. He lost that bigly. It was the biglyist lost in the popular vote by anyone winning the EC in our history. I have feeling the country will rectify that in a few years.
I've never understood why the dems do so poorly on the state level. In Miss, the gop keeps gerrymandering them into smaller numbers to the degree the DOJ lets them do it, but 1/3 of Miss is black, and the state is thus split about 65% gop and 35% dem.
 
Are you a Canadian or something? Do you know how presidents are elected in the USA? :itsok:

So wait, the U.S. isn't made up of 50 states and those states aren't full of people who vote?

Its still funny that Trump whooped your ass. He took on Hillary, the Dem party, the liberal media and crushed you like a bug. :laugh:

Aside from the fact Trump lost the popular vote, his margin in the Electoral College isn’t all that high, either. Bottom third.

There was no popular vote to lose idiot, and winning 30 states and over 300 electoral votes is hardly a marginal win. You people are just butthurt sore losers, shocker.

Out of 56 elections The Great Grabby One's margin of victory was 46th. Of course there is a popular vote. He lost that bigly. It was the biglyist lost in the popular vote by anyone winning the EC in our history. I have feeling the country will rectify that in a few years.
No, take out the illegals voting in LA and NYC and Hitlery didn't win shit, including the popular vote. Trump kicked her ass from shore to shore, period, end of story.

Get over it.
 
So wait, the U.S. isn't made up of 50 states and those states aren't full of people who vote?

Its still funny that Trump whooped your ass. He took on Hillary, the Dem party, the liberal media and crushed you like a bug. :laugh:

Aside from the fact Trump lost the popular vote, his margin in the Electoral College isn’t all that high, either. Bottom third.

There was no popular vote to lose idiot, and winning 30 states and over 300 electoral votes is hardly a marginal win. You people are just butthurt sore losers, shocker.

Out of 56 elections The Great Grabby One's margin of victory was 46th. Of course there is a popular vote. He lost that bigly. It was the biglyist lost in the popular vote by anyone winning the EC in our history. I have feeling the country will rectify that in a few years.
No, take out the illegals voting in LA and NYC and Hitlery didn't win shit, including the popular vote. Trump kicked her ass from shore to shore, period, end of story.

Get over it.

Here's your song.



Donnie Dangerously is the biglyest looser we ever elected
 
So wait, the U.S. isn't made up of 50 states and those states aren't full of people who vote?

Its still funny that Trump whooped your ass. He took on Hillary, the Dem party, the liberal media and crushed you like a bug. :laugh:

Aside from the fact Trump lost the popular vote, his margin in the Electoral College isn’t all that high, either. Bottom third.

There was no popular vote to lose idiot, and winning 30 states and over 300 electoral votes is hardly a marginal win. You people are just butthurt sore losers, shocker.

Out of 56 elections The Great Grabby One's margin of victory was 46th. Of course there is a popular vote. He lost that bigly. It was the biglyist lost in the popular vote by anyone winning the EC in our history. I have feeling the country will rectify that in a few years.
I've never understood why the dems do so poorly on the state level. In Miss, the gop keeps gerrymandering them into smaller numbers to the degree the DOJ lets them do it, but 1/3 of Miss is black, and the state is thus split about 65% gop and 35% dem.

The GOP out did them on the grass root level in the last 20 years. I think the Orange One will help reverse that trend
 
Think they will pass the bill. any one earning less than 75 thousand dollars will have what they gain taken away before ten years & that's if things improve. any one making 30 thousand or less.(HELLO RETIRIES) will be worse off immediately. the gift to the rich will be locked in, so what ever happens it's a win win for them.
 
The Republican senators who will decide tax reform: Where they stand

Two senators have said they will not vote for the bill in its current form. A few others expressed disappointment towards the bill without giving an answer on what their vote will be.

What’s worse, is that if concessions are made in the bill to appease these senators, it may change other “yeses” to “noes”.

How about you cons just admit how terrible the GOP is at governing? If this fails, Trump will be the first modern president to not achieve any major legislation working with congress for his first year in office.
Well if Republicans refuse this bill because of flaws and garbage in it, at least they show more integrity than passing it just to look like they got something done.

Which is more than I can say for Obama and Dems passing the ACA crap to claim credit for refirming health care. They also just gave more handouts to corporate interests while charging taxpayers more in costs and losses on our side.

The difference between the two is Democrats were more willing to sell us out for political points, to benefit themselves at public expense. Republicans are more willing to commit political harikari and kill their careers over bad bills.
That's fucking hilarious. Because passing ACA did NOT gain any political points. It lost a lot of them. You dumb bitches have bragged about that for years. The ACA was passed because a majority of people felt it was right.

Meanwhile, republicans passed repeal 61 times under Obama. But once they could actually repeal it... they didn't. Proving it was all about party over country.

Dear TheOldSchool
And we are STILL STUCK WITH IT BECAUSE DEMOCRATS PLAYED GAMES TO PASS IT.
What games? Obama campaigned on healthcare, he won, and he passed a law that gave millions of Americans access to healthcare. Democrats included many GOP created amendments as a means of compromise, but the GOP’s only real goal was making Obama a one term President. They spent years undermining and sabotaging the ACA, and now you yokels shout that it will collapse on its own, but you have to keep adding layers of sabotage because it HASN’T collapsed on its own.

61 times your representatives voted for repeal under Obama. Ask yourself, why didn’t they when it mattered?

They played you for a fool. Completely punked your ass playing political games, and you fell for it.
 
Trump: I’m not going to benefit from this tax bill.
- The middle class will benefit the most.
- it’s not a tax bill that will help the rich.

And other Xmas fairy tales like a virgin birth.
How about a prophet that says to kill unbelievers? Any complaints about that?

Should we ban all religions who have ancient writings calling for the death of unbelievers then?

For example, Deuteronomy 13:

6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.



Read more at Yes, the Bible Does Say to Kill Infidels

Read more at Yes, the Bible Does Say to Kill Infidels

Israelites to attack Midian and kill all the men,
from your source

That is a command to kill a certain people. It is not open ended like the commands to kill in the Koran. Have you read Isaiah? That is where the swords are put down, that does not happen in the Koran.

What this has to do with the thread is puzzling but Islam commands are eternal or until Islam dominates the world. There is nothing like that in the Bible. Those commands are limited to that time in history. Try again.
 

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