Lying About The Nuclear Deal

[JakeStarkey]

Redfish only knows what his puppet masters feed him about the Iran deal. He can't post worthy comments because he does not know the deal itself.

 

[Redfish]

Our GOP refuses to negotiate in good faith and earns the result of that.

Should the four Americans been part of the deal, tell me why, please?

When the 6 nations began this negotiation they excluded everything but the nukes because they knew they would never reach a deal otherwise.

This post facto whining by the extremist rightwingers is nothing more than a deflection because they can't find anything actually wrong with the deal itself.

nothing wrong with the deal????????????? are you fricken crazy? Iran gets everything wants, including nuclear bombs in a few years, the US got nothing. Obama and Kerry bent over to the ayatollah and said "have your way with me".

Why don't you try actually posting extracts from the Iran nuke deal proving your bogus allegations?

Oh wait, you can't because you have never even read it yourself, have you?

And if you did you would discover that you are wrong.

Landmark deal reached on Iran nuclear program - CNNPolitics.com

What's in the deal


The deal reduces the number of Iranian centrifuges by two-thirds. It places bans on enrichment at key facilities, and limits uranium research and development to the Natanz facility.

The deal caps uranium enrichment at 3.67 percent and limits the stockpile to 300 kg, all for 15 years.

Iran will be required to ship spent fuel out of the country forever, as well as allow inspectors from the IAEA inspectors certain access in perpetuity. Heightened inspections, including tracking uranium mining and monitoring the production and storage of centrifuges, will last for up to 20 years.​

All you have are the lies and disinformation from your extremist rightwanker websites.

Grow up!

you left out that part that says that the US cannot inspect for compliance and that any inspectors must give 24 days notice before they can look at any facilities.

Its a joke. The iranians punked kerry and obama. they kicked their asses on this. They won, we lost, and 4 innocent americans continue to rot in iranian prisons.

 

[Redfish]

Redfish only knows what his puppet masters feed him about the Iran deal. He can't post worthy comments because he does not know the deal itself.

Ok, then how about you give us a recap of the inspection criteria. Iran will cheat on this, everyone knows it. But maybe thats what obama really wants. I really question whose side this fool is on.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Our GOP refuses to negotiate in good faith and earns the result of that.

Should the four Americans been part of the deal, tell me why, please?

When the 6 nations began this negotiation they excluded everything but the nukes because they knew they would never reach a deal otherwise.

This post facto whining by the extremist rightwingers is nothing more than a deflection because they can't find anything actually wrong with the deal itself.

nothing wrong with the deal????????????? are you fricken crazy? Iran gets everything wants, including nuclear bombs in a few years, the US got nothing. Obama and Kerry bent over to the ayatollah and said "have your way with me".

Why don't you try actually posting extracts from the Iran nuke deal proving your bogus allegations?

Oh wait, you can't because you have never even read it yourself, have you?

And if you did you would discover that you are wrong.

Landmark deal reached on Iran nuclear program - CNNPolitics.com

What's in the deal


The deal reduces the number of Iranian centrifuges by two-thirds. It places bans on enrichment at key facilities, and limits uranium research and development to the Natanz facility.

The deal caps uranium enrichment at 3.67 percent and limits the stockpile to 300 kg, all for 15 years.

Iran will be required to ship spent fuel out of the country forever, as well as allow inspectors from the IAEA inspectors certain access in perpetuity. Heightened inspections, including tracking uranium mining and monitoring the production and storage of centrifuges, will last for up to 20 years.​

All you have are the lies and disinformation from your extremist rightwanker websites.

Grow up!

you left out that part that says that the US cannot inspect for compliance and that any inspectors must give 24 days notice before they can look at any facilities.

Its a joke. The iranians punked kerry and obama. they kicked their asses on this. They won, we lost, and 4 innocent americans continue to rot in iranian prisons.

Your ignorance is on display yet again!

Inspections of existing facilities do not require any notice whatsoever.

Only military sites that are not included in the deal can have up to 24 days delay before inspectors must be granted access or the sanctions automatically go into effect again.

Thanks for admitting that your ignorance is self imposed and that you are gullible enough to swallow the BS on your beloved rightwanker disinformation sites.

 

[Redfish]

Therein l

How can it be a "deal" when one party gets everything that the other party gets nothing?

BTW, 4 americans are still rotting in Iranian prisons for either being american or being Christian. Why wasn't their release a mandatory part of the "deal" ?

"How can it be a "deal" when one party gets everything that the other party gets nothing?"

It works that way when those writing the treaty both work for the same side.

Therein lies the fallacy of your faction's fundamental thought process. You place and hold your faction's dogma on the highest level while relegating all else to a somewhat lower level with disdain and derision. You have cast aside the fundamental principles of this Nation's Constitution. You and your ilk are really sick, brainwashed puppies!

sorry dude, the brainwashing and indoctrination is on your side. you worship obama and consider him some kind of godlike creature who can do no wrong. we get it.

 

[Redfish]

Our GOP refuses to negotiate in good faith and earns the result of that.

Should the four Americans been part of the deal, tell me why, please?

When the 6 nations began this negotiation they excluded everything but the nukes because they knew they would never reach a deal otherwise.

This post facto whining by the extremist rightwingers is nothing more than a deflection because they can't find anything actually wrong with the deal itself.

nothing wrong with the deal????????????? are you fricken crazy? Iran gets everything wants, including nuclear bombs in a few years, the US got nothing. Obama and Kerry bent over to the ayatollah and said "have your way with me".

Why don't you try actually posting extracts from the Iran nuke deal proving your bogus allegations?

Oh wait, you can't because you have never even read it yourself, have you?

And if you did you would discover that you are wrong.

Landmark deal reached on Iran nuclear program - CNNPolitics.com

What's in the deal


The deal reduces the number of Iranian centrifuges by two-thirds. It places bans on enrichment at key facilities, and limits uranium research and development to the Natanz facility.

The deal caps uranium enrichment at 3.67 percent and limits the stockpile to 300 kg, all for 15 years.

Iran will be required to ship spent fuel out of the country forever, as well as allow inspectors from the IAEA inspectors certain access in perpetuity. Heightened inspections, including tracking uranium mining and monitoring the production and storage of centrifuges, will last for up to 20 years.​

All you have are the lies and disinformation from your extremist rightwanker websites.

Grow up!

you left out that part that says that the US cannot inspect for compliance and that any inspectors must give 24 days notice before they can look at any facilities.

Its a joke. The iranians punked kerry and obama. they kicked their asses on this. They won, we lost, and 4 innocent americans continue to rot in iranian prisons.

Your ignorance is on display yet again!

Inspections of existing facilities do not require any notice whatsoever.

Only military sites that are not included in the deal can have up to 24 days delay before inspectors must be granted access or the sanctions automatically go into effect again.

Thanks for admitting that your ignorance is self imposed and that you are gullible enough to swallow the BS on your beloved rightwanker disinformation sites.

since you are a self-proclaimed expert to the deal, post the language relative to inspections. and include all of the side deals that are not public

 

[MathewSmith]

How could any person in his right mind believe anything Obama says. He will certainly go down in history as a man with no integrity. The only thing this man is concerned with is leaving a legacy.

 

[Derideo_Te]

When the 6 nations began this negotiation they excluded everything but the nukes because they knew they would never reach a deal otherwise.

This post facto whining by the extremist rightwingers is nothing more than a deflection because they can't find anything actually wrong with the deal itself.

nothing wrong with the deal????????????? are you fricken crazy? Iran gets everything wants, including nuclear bombs in a few years, the US got nothing. Obama and Kerry bent over to the ayatollah and said "have your way with me".

Why don't you try actually posting extracts from the Iran nuke deal proving your bogus allegations?

Oh wait, you can't because you have never even read it yourself, have you?

And if you did you would discover that you are wrong.

Landmark deal reached on Iran nuclear program - CNNPolitics.com

What's in the deal


The deal reduces the number of Iranian centrifuges by two-thirds. It places bans on enrichment at key facilities, and limits uranium research and development to the Natanz facility.

The deal caps uranium enrichment at 3.67 percent and limits the stockpile to 300 kg, all for 15 years.

Iran will be required to ship spent fuel out of the country forever, as well as allow inspectors from the IAEA inspectors certain access in perpetuity. Heightened inspections, including tracking uranium mining and monitoring the production and storage of centrifuges, will last for up to 20 years.​

All you have are the lies and disinformation from your extremist rightwanker websites.

Grow up!

you left out that part that says that the US cannot inspect for compliance and that any inspectors must give 24 days notice before they can look at any facilities.

Its a joke. The iranians punked kerry and obama. they kicked their asses on this. They won, we lost, and 4 innocent americans continue to rot in iranian prisons.

Your ignorance is on display yet again!

Inspections of existing facilities do not require any notice whatsoever.

Only military sites that are not included in the deal can have up to 24 days delay before inspectors must be granted access or the sanctions automatically go into effect again.

Thanks for admitting that your ignorance is self imposed and that you are gullible enough to swallow the BS on your beloved rightwanker disinformation sites.

since you are a self-proclaimed expert to the deal, post the language relative to inspections. and include all of the side deals that are not public

Full text of the Iran nuclear deal - The Washington Post

What imaginary side deals would those be?

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

Therein l

How can it be a "deal" when one party gets everything that the other party gets nothing?

BTW, 4 americans are still rotting in Iranian prisons for either being american or being Christian. Why wasn't their release a mandatory part of the "deal" ?

"How can it be a "deal" when one party gets everything that the other party gets nothing?"

It works that way when those writing the treaty both work for the same side.

Therein lies the fallacy of your faction's fundamental thought process. You place and hold your faction's dogma on the highest level while relegating all else to a somewhat lower level with disdain and derision. You have cast aside the fundamental principles of this Nation's Constitution. You and your ilk are really sick, brainwashed puppies!

sorry dude, the brainwashing and indoctrination is on your side. you worship obama and consider him some kind of godlike creature who can do no wrong. we get it.

Christ man, I'm 70 years old...what's with this DUDE shit kid...grow up?

"you worship obama and consider him some kind of godlike creature..."

In your freakin' dreams maybe! Do you get most of your exercise jumping to ridiculous conclusions.

As a TRUE CONSERVATIVE, I appreciate truth and reject lies, half truths and distortions. That is far from how you roll as displayed by your ignorant misinformation regarding the topic of this thread.

Have a nice day!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Therein l

How can it be a "deal" when one party gets everything that the other party gets nothing?

BTW, 4 americans are still rotting in Iranian prisons for either being american or being Christian. Why wasn't their release a mandatory part of the "deal" ?

"How can it be a "deal" when one party gets everything that the other party gets nothing?"

It works that way when those writing the treaty both work for the same side.

Therein lies the fallacy of your faction's fundamental thought process. You place and hold your faction's dogma on the highest level while relegating all else to a somewhat lower level with disdain and derision. You have cast aside the fundamental principles of this Nation's Constitution. You and your ilk are really sick, brainwashed puppies!

I like you, too....



...just not quite as much.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"you left out that part that says that the US cannot inspect for compliance and that any inspectors must give 24 days notice before they can look at any facilities."

Read, in context, what you just posted.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Redfish your babbling is embarrassing you.

"Only military sites that are not included in the deal can have up to 24 days delay before inspectors must be granted access or the sanctions automatically go into effect again."

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. “For Iran to cheat, it has to build a lot more than just one building or covert facility like Fordow. It would need a secret source for every single aspect of its program. No nation in history has been able to pull off such subterfuge when subjected to such rigorous inspections.”

(Under the deal, Iran will be given plenty of notice to cover its nuclear weapon activities, particularly those that do not involve radioactive material.

In the past, the United States repeatedly misjudged other countries’ nuclear weapon programs, from the Soviet Union to China to Iraq to Libya.



In the case of Libya, the United States did not even know that the country had a nuclear program until the Libyans showed surprised Americans to their undeclared sites."
8 Things Obama Got Wrong on the Iran Deal

 

[JakeStarkey]

PC was unable to rebut "For Iran to cheat, it has to build a lot more than just one building or covert facility like Fordow. It would need a secret source for every single aspect of its program. No nation in history has been able to pull off such subterfuge when subjected to such rigorous inspections.” although she posted some stuff that does not apply to Iran or the treaty.

 

[Redfish]

"you left out that part that says that the US cannot inspect for compliance and that any inspectors must give 24 days notice before they can look at any facilities."

Read, in context, what you just posted.

its very clear, its your reading comprehension that is lacking.

Inspectors must give 24 days notice. The US cannot send any inspectors, the inspectors must be from the UN and not representatives of the US government.

Now, how about if you try reading in context and admitting how stupid you now look?

 

[Redfish]

Redfish your babbling is embarrassing you.

"Only military sites that are not included in the deal can have up to 24 days delay before inspectors must be granted access or the sanctions automatically go into effect again."

Yes, and who gets to designate sites as military? Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Are you really a babbling idiot or is it an act?

 

[JakeStarkey]

You didn't read the treaty, any of it.

The reference is to the military bases that are not included in the treaty itself, not nuclear or design facilities.

Please read. If we had sent you our as our negotiator, the Iranians would have been parading down PA avenue by now.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Redfish your babbling is embarrassing you.

"Only military sites that are not included in the deal can have up to 24 days delay before inspectors must be granted access or the sanctions automatically go into effect again."

Yes, and who gets to designate sites as military? Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Are you really a babbling idiot or is it an act?

What benefit is it to delay by 24 days? If they have been refining uranium that will be detected.

Try thinking this through instead of just kneejerking your single synapse.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. “An argument against sanctions relief is an argument against any diplomatic resolutions of this issue,” says the president.

(The assertion is grossly misleading because the criticism has to do with how little the United States is getting from lifting sanctions on Iran, not with the diplomatic solution per se.


Sanctions were biting and got Iran to the negotiating table.

In fact, a French negotiator recently recommended that Congress can reject the deal and that the United States will be able to get a better one about two years later.



There is no reason to make Iran’s terrorist activities easier while legitimizing its nuclear program and putting Iran in a strategically stronger position in the next few years, as this deal does."
8 Things Obama Got Wrong on the Iran Deal

 

[JakeStarkey]

PC, folks like you are not going to allowed to give Iran a window of 10 months to finish a bomb, which would force us into a war.

That will not happen.