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Lying About The Nuclear Deal

Firstly, the US stood by as Pakistan got nukes. I mean, Pakistan makes Iran look like the nice little old auntie.

Second, only one nation has actually used nukes, and that was the country that is, by far and away, the biggest threat to global security in the world today. The US.
We are also the great stabilizer to global security if our geo-political policy will get sane.

You mean if the US govt stops going around deposing those who sit on oil and hate the US, and stops annoying people in the name of creating fear in order to keep its own people in check and its defense budget high, then the US could become not the greatest threat to global security?

Sure, it COULD.
 
The majority sets the tone, Redfish, not the minority.

I think the problem is the Reagan and Bush I years made us think the GOP had a permanent majority, and we refused to change with the population. If we don't change, we will become a permanent minority party.

Which is why your Democrats control Congress and a majority of State Houses, right?
 
Which is why Clinton hammered us in two presidential elections, the Dems generally held the Senate or held the balance of power, Obama hammered us in two presidential elections, the Dems will take back the Senate next year, and we may very well lose the Presidency, while we lose some seats in the House.

Our years of gerrymander majority are coming to an end, Frank.

Either we change with the times, or, yes, from a supposed permanent majority we will go the way of the Whigs.
 
Firstly, the US stood by as Pakistan got nukes. I mean, Pakistan makes Iran look like the nice little old auntie.

Second, only one nation has actually used nukes, and that was the country that is, by far and away, the biggest threat to global security in the world today. The US.




The ultimate enemy of Pakistan is India.

Can you provide quote from Pakistani leadership threatening to wipe India off the map?




1. “Israel, a small country of less than eight million people, looks out at a world where leaders of much larger nations threaten to wipe it off of the map.”

— President Obama, speech to the U.N. General Assembly, September 21, 2011



2. “It was only perhaps three weeks ago that the president of Iran once again said that Israel should be eradicated off the face of the Earth. As you recall, it was about in 2005 when he [Mahmoud Ahmadinejad] said before that Israel -- he would use a nuclear weapon to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth.”

— Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), September 19, 2011



3. “Outrageous statements by Ahmadinejad, such as a pledge to wipe Israel off the map, made it easier to keep that coalition together. Germany had been considered the weak sister of the group, but after Ahmadinejad’s comments about Israel, the historical burden of the Holocaust made it difficult for Germany to appear too sympathetic to Iran.”

— Glenn Kessler (aka The Fact Checker), “The Confidante: Condoleezza Rice and the Creation of the Bush Legacy (St. Martin’s Press, 2007), page 188.


Wise up.

There are some nations that should never be allowed a nuclear weapon.
 
Firstly, the US stood by as Pakistan got nukes. I mean, Pakistan makes Iran look like the nice little old auntie.

Second, only one nation has actually used nukes, and that was the country that is, by far and away, the biggest threat to global security in the world today. The US.
Dude. Pakistan has been one of our allies for decades.....and they aren't anything like Iran. And the US hasn't used nukes since before you were born.......so STFU!!!!
 
Firstly, the US stood by as Pakistan got nukes. I mean, Pakistan makes Iran look like the nice little old auntie.

Second, only one nation has actually used nukes, and that was the country that is, by far and away, the biggest threat to global security in the world today. The US.
Dude. Pakistan has been one of our allies for decades.....and they aren't anything like Iran. And the US hasn't used nukes since before you were born.......so STFU!!!!

Damn right they aren't anything like Iran. They're WORSE. Have you seen what's going on in Pakistan right now?

What does when the US used nukes have to do with anything? Is the US or is the US not the only country to have dropped nukes on people? Surely listening to them on advice about not using nuclear weapons is like listening to Hitler on preserving the Jewish people.
 
Firstly, the US stood by as Pakistan got nukes. I mean, Pakistan makes Iran look like the nice little old auntie.

Second, only one nation has actually used nukes, and that was the country that is, by far and away, the biggest threat to global security in the world today. The US.
Dude. Pakistan has been one of our allies for decades.....and they aren't anything like Iran. And the US hasn't used nukes since before you were born.......so STFU!!!!

Damn right they aren't anything like Iran. They're WORSE. Have you seen what's going on in Pakistan right now?

What does when the US used nukes have to do with anything? Is the US or is the US not the only country to have dropped nukes on people? Surely listening to them on advice about not using nuclear weapons is like listening to Hitler on preserving the Jewish people.




1. "...they aren't anything like Iran. They're WORSE."

How many US hostages is Pakistan holding?



2. "Is the US or is the US not the only country to have dropped nukes on people? Surely listening to them on advice about not using nuclear weapons is like listening to Hitler on preserving the Jewish people."

Rarely has there been a more illustrative post revealing the deleterious effects of secular control of schools and the culture.
 
Firstly, the US stood by as Pakistan got nukes. I mean, Pakistan makes Iran look like the nice little old auntie.

Second, only one nation has actually used nukes, and that was the country that is, by far and away, the biggest threat to global security in the world today. The US.




The ultimate enemy of Pakistan is India.

Can you provide quote from Pakistani leadership threatening to wipe India off the map?




1. “Israel, a small country of less than eight million people, looks out at a world where leaders of much larger nations threaten to wipe it off of the map.”

— President Obama, speech to the U.N. General Assembly, September 21, 2011



2. “It was only perhaps three weeks ago that the president of Iran once again said that Israel should be eradicated off the face of the Earth. As you recall, it was about in 2005 when he [Mahmoud Ahmadinejad] said before that Israel -- he would use a nuclear weapon to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth.”

— Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), September 19, 2011



3. “Outrageous statements by Ahmadinejad, such as a pledge to wipe Israel off the map, made it easier to keep that coalition together. Germany had been considered the weak sister of the group, but after Ahmadinejad’s comments about Israel, the historical burden of the Holocaust made it difficult for Germany to appear too sympathetic to Iran.”

— Glenn Kessler (aka The Fact Checker), “The Confidante: Condoleezza Rice and the Creation of the Bush Legacy (St. Martin’s Press, 2007), page 188.


Wise up.

There are some nations that should never be allowed a nuclear weapon.


Do you know ANYTHING about Pakistan? Seriously?

This is a country which hid Osama Bin Laden away from the Americans for how long? They won't tell us. However long enough to be found there. It's also a country which, as ally to the US, was sending kids off to Afghanistan to fight, well, er... US soldiers.

In 1999 Musharraf had a bloodless coup. He literally took over the country because he controlled the armed forces. The Supreme Court declared the coup legal, but military rule was allowed for only three years. So Musharraf set up a referendum and with 98% of the vote was allowed to stay on, literally as military dictator. Suited the needs of the US just fine, who needs to talk about democracy when you have a dictator as friend?

Musharraf was unpopular by 2007. People wanted him gone. However the Supreme Court ruled that he could run for re-election. Surprise surprise. Musharraf won the election and declared that an era of democracy was in Pakistan. The sort of democracy that isn't very strong, obviously.

Later that year impeachment proceedings forced Musharraf into exile.

This is an example of how Pakistan is a country that is prone to coups, a country which says one things and does another, which has major problems with Islamic extremists in its country, but also seems to have consent of some of the politicians. It's a country which can't control it's own borders in the slightest, doesn't seem to want to, deals with some extremists but mostly doesn't, attacks the US while being it's ally and supposed friend. Oh, and it has nukes.

As for Ahmadinejad, he was a lot of talk and not much else. Just because someone says something doesn't mean they're going to do something. You have to understand why they might say such a thing, and I'm supposed you don't understand. You listen and you just take it because it's what you want to hear.
 
Firstly, the US stood by as Pakistan got nukes. I mean, Pakistan makes Iran look like the nice little old auntie.

Second, only one nation has actually used nukes, and that was the country that is, by far and away, the biggest threat to global security in the world today. The US.




The ultimate enemy of Pakistan is India.

Can you provide quote from Pakistani leadership threatening to wipe India off the map?




1. “Israel, a small country of less than eight million people, looks out at a world where leaders of much larger nations threaten to wipe it off of the map.”

— President Obama, speech to the U.N. General Assembly, September 21, 2011



2. “It was only perhaps three weeks ago that the president of Iran once again said that Israel should be eradicated off the face of the Earth. As you recall, it was about in 2005 when he [Mahmoud Ahmadinejad] said before that Israel -- he would use a nuclear weapon to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth.”

— Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), September 19, 2011



3. “Outrageous statements by Ahmadinejad, such as a pledge to wipe Israel off the map, made it easier to keep that coalition together. Germany had been considered the weak sister of the group, but after Ahmadinejad’s comments about Israel, the historical burden of the Holocaust made it difficult for Germany to appear too sympathetic to Iran.”

— Glenn Kessler (aka The Fact Checker), “The Confidante: Condoleezza Rice and the Creation of the Bush Legacy (St. Martin’s Press, 2007), page 188.


Wise up.

There are some nations that should never be allowed a nuclear weapon.


Do you know ANYTHING about Pakistan? Seriously?

This is a country which hid Osama Bin Laden away from the Americans for how long? They won't tell us. However long enough to be found there. It's also a country which, as ally to the US, was sending kids off to Afghanistan to fight, well, er... US soldiers.

In 1999 Musharraf had a bloodless coup. He literally took over the country because he controlled the armed forces. The Supreme Court declared the coup legal, but military rule was allowed for only three years. So Musharraf set up a referendum and with 98% of the vote was allowed to stay on, literally as military dictator. Suited the needs of the US just fine, who needs to talk about democracy when you have a dictator as friend?

Musharraf was unpopular by 2007. People wanted him gone. However the Supreme Court ruled that he could run for re-election. Surprise surprise. Musharraf won the election and declared that an era of democracy was in Pakistan. The sort of democracy that isn't very strong, obviously.

Later that year impeachment proceedings forced Musharraf into exile.

This is an example of how Pakistan is a country that is prone to coups, a country which says one things and does another, which has major problems with Islamic extremists in its country, but also seems to have consent of some of the politicians. It's a country which can't control it's own borders in the slightest, doesn't seem to want to, deals with some extremists but mostly doesn't, attacks the US while being it's ally and supposed friend. Oh, and it has nukes.

As for Ahmadinejad, he was a lot of talk and not much else. Just because someone says something doesn't mean they're going to do something. You have to understand why they might say such a thing, and I'm supposed you don't understand. You listen and you just take it because it's what you want to hear.



This was the question: How many US hostages is Pakistan holding?
 
1. "...they aren't anything like Iran. They're WORSE."

How many US hostages is Pakistan holding?



2. "Is the US or is the US not the only country to have dropped nukes on people? Surely listening to them on advice about not using nuclear weapons is like listening to Hitler on preserving the Jewish people."

Rarely has there been a more illustrative post revealing the deleterious effects of secular control of schools and the culture.

Being bad is based on how many US hostages they're holding? What about sanctions from the US against Iran?

Pakistan doesn't need to hold US hostages. It just sends its kids off to Afghanistan to kill US troops.

As for your second sentence. What the hell are you on? It's probably illegal.
 
Firstly, the US stood by as Pakistan got nukes. I mean, Pakistan makes Iran look like the nice little old auntie.

Second, only one nation has actually used nukes, and that was the country that is, by far and away, the biggest threat to global security in the world today. The US.
Dude. Pakistan has been one of our allies for decades.....and they aren't anything like Iran. And the US hasn't used nukes since before you were born.......so STFU!!!!

Damn right they aren't anything like Iran. They're WORSE. Have you seen what's going on in Pakistan right now?

What does when the US used nukes have to do with anything? Is the US or is the US not the only country to have dropped nukes on people? Surely listening to them on advice about not using nuclear weapons is like listening to Hitler on preserving the Jewish people.

First of all....blaming us for something that leaders 70 years did is simply retarded.

Secondly...we had a choice of sending as many as 2 million Americans to their death during an invasion of the mainland of Japan or drop a couple of bombs. Entirely different from what Iran openly claims they will do once they get nukes.

Thirdly.......Iran has been murdering our people since their Theocracy took over. Pakistan has not. Pakistan is not exactly our bestist buddies right now but at least they aren't supplying and funding Hamas....Hezbollah....and various other enemies of the United States. Most of what they doing is harboring fugitives for cash. If we were to tell them to stop you'd start screaming that we're Imperialistic Colonialists.
 
Firstly, the US stood by as Pakistan got nukes. I mean, Pakistan makes Iran look like the nice little old auntie.

Second, only one nation has actually used nukes, and that was the country that is, by far and away, the biggest threat to global security in the world today. The US.




The ultimate enemy of Pakistan is India.

Can you provide quote from Pakistani leadership threatening to wipe India off the map?




1. “Israel, a small country of less than eight million people, looks out at a world where leaders of much larger nations threaten to wipe it off of the map.”

— President Obama, speech to the U.N. General Assembly, September 21, 2011



2. “It was only perhaps three weeks ago that the president of Iran once again said that Israel should be eradicated off the face of the Earth. As you recall, it was about in 2005 when he [Mahmoud Ahmadinejad] said before that Israel -- he would use a nuclear weapon to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth.”

— Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), September 19, 2011



3. “Outrageous statements by Ahmadinejad, such as a pledge to wipe Israel off the map, made it easier to keep that coalition together. Germany had been considered the weak sister of the group, but after Ahmadinejad’s comments about Israel, the historical burden of the Holocaust made it difficult for Germany to appear too sympathetic to Iran.”

— Glenn Kessler (aka The Fact Checker), “The Confidante: Condoleezza Rice and the Creation of the Bush Legacy (St. Martin’s Press, 2007), page 188.


Wise up.

There are some nations that should never be allowed a nuclear weapon.


Do you know ANYTHING about Pakistan? Seriously?

This is a country which hid Osama Bin Laden away from the Americans for how long? They won't tell us. However long enough to be found there. It's also a country which, as ally to the US, was sending kids off to Afghanistan to fight, well, er... US soldiers.

In 1999 Musharraf had a bloodless coup. He literally took over the country because he controlled the armed forces. The Supreme Court declared the coup legal, but military rule was allowed for only three years. So Musharraf set up a referendum and with 98% of the vote was allowed to stay on, literally as military dictator. Suited the needs of the US just fine, who needs to talk about democracy when you have a dictator as friend?

Musharraf was unpopular by 2007. People wanted him gone. However the Supreme Court ruled that he could run for re-election. Surprise surprise. Musharraf won the election and declared that an era of democracy was in Pakistan. The sort of democracy that isn't very strong, obviously.

Later that year impeachment proceedings forced Musharraf into exile.

This is an example of how Pakistan is a country that is prone to coups, a country which says one things and does another, which has major problems with Islamic extremists in its country, but also seems to have consent of some of the politicians. It's a country which can't control it's own borders in the slightest, doesn't seem to want to, deals with some extremists but mostly doesn't, attacks the US while being it's ally and supposed friend. Oh, and it has nukes.

As for Ahmadinejad, he was a lot of talk and not much else. Just because someone says something doesn't mean they're going to do something. You have to understand why they might say such a thing, and I'm supposed you don't understand. You listen and you just take it because it's what you want to hear.



This was the question: How many US hostages is Pakistan holding?

Go on, you tell me.

I'll tell you about Iran. There's Roxana Saberi, no, wait, she was released. There's Joshua Fattal (27), Sarah Shourd (32), and Shane Bauer, wait, released. So I make that zero hostages.

However there's a woman called Caitlan Connemara Coleman, captured in Afghanistan, might be dead, might be in Afghanistan, might even be in Pakistan. Who knows?
 
The majority sets the tone, Redfish, not the minority.

I think the problem is the Reagan and Bush I years made us think the GOP had a permanent majority, and we refused to change with the population. If we don't change, we will become a permanent minority party.


you are fooling no one, jakey boy. you are not now, and never were, a republican or a conservative. You are a far left loon posing as an ex-republican because in your warped mind you think that gives you credibility. But it doesn't because everyone sees through it.
 
Poor, poor far right reactionary weirdo Redfish believing he is a mainstream Republican. He is so easy to out and correct in his mistakes.
 
1. "...they aren't anything like Iran. They're WORSE."

How many US hostages is Pakistan holding?



2. "Is the US or is the US not the only country to have dropped nukes on people? Surely listening to them on advice about not using nuclear weapons is like listening to Hitler on preserving the Jewish people."

Rarely has there been a more illustrative post revealing the deleterious effects of secular control of schools and the culture.

Being bad is based on how many US hostages they're holding? What about sanctions from the US against Iran?

Pakistan doesn't need to hold US hostages. It just sends its kids off to Afghanistan to kill US troops.

As for your second sentence. What the hell are you on? It's probably illegal.



Now that you have been exposed, let's give you a lesson on why the irrational theology-based blood cult of Iran should never have a nuclear weapon.


1. When the Iranian revolution came to power, with the help of Democratic President Jimmy Carter, the Ayatollah Khomeini killed more human beings (about twenty thousand) in two weeks than had been killed by the Shah during his entire thirty-eight years.

2. Khomeini followed this by sending hundreds of thousands of Iranians to die in the Iran-Iraq war, as martyrdom was needed to resurrect the Islamic Empire.
Paul Berman, “Terror and Liberalism,” p. 108

Again, irrigating the earth with human blood.

a. Outlined by Dr. Hans-Peter Raddatz, Orientalist, and frequent critic of Islam, this blood-lust was the explanation of Iran’s demand for a truce, when it was learned that Iraq planned to kill the waves of Iranians with Tabun and Sarin nerve gas, which would not cause blood to flow.
Glazov, “United in Hate,” p. 107-108.

b. "Shortly after assuming power, Khomeini began calling for Islamic revolutions across the Muslim world, including Iran's Arab neighbor Iraq, the one large state besides Iran with a Shia majority population."



3. 1980 April 8 – Broadcast call by Khomeini for the pious of Iraq to overthrow Saddam Hussein and his regime. Al-Dawa al-Islamiya party in Iraqi is the hoped for catalyst to start rebellion.
From: Mackey, The Iranians, (1996), p.317



4. There is no doubt about the Islamism of the Pakistani ISI....they created the Taliban. Pakistan was founded with an Islamic character. When Bangladesh broke away it was due to ethnic diversity, and the Pakistanis remembered this.

So when Afghanistan needed aid after the Russian invasion, they only supported Islamic groups, and thus the secular and nationalist factions whithered on the vine.

The Pakistani Army would rather make deals with the Talibani factions than fight them, but if push comes to shove, they will repel them: recall the Red Mosque events.
In short....Pakistan is Islamic but rational.....

...Iran is not.
 
Which is why Clinton hammered us in two presidential elections, the Dems generally held the Senate or held the balance of power, Obama hammered us in two presidential elections, the Dems will take back the Senate next year, and we may very well lose the Presidency, while we lose some seats in the House.

Our years of gerrymander majority are coming to an end, Frank.

Either we change with the times, or, yes, from a supposed permanent majority we will go the way of the Whigs.

I was unaware that governorship were subject to gerrymandering, but clearly, you know differntly
 
Why is the MURICAN Rightist position always the military option ESPECIALLY given the majority of Rightists here are lifelong civilians not to mention their abysmal track record on foreign policy (see vietraq)

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