Lying to America

How about a specific example of a lie ?
O care will save a family 2500 bucks.

How's is that not true? No families saved money?

As for losing insurance . There are more people covered now than ever .
obamacre didn't take away doctors . Some insurance companies bailed rather than meet minimal standards .

And if there were no "minimal standards" those people would still have their doctors and health insurance. So it's the insurance companies fault and not DumBama and the Democrats?
 
How do you figure ?

Benghazi ? Even if he did lie , that Woulve been after the deaths . So talking your version of things it's still doesn't = lied n people died .

He forgets the fact the cause was Republicans cutting the security budget, and Marines were replaced with CIA employees.

Perhaps you should learn what a fact is first:

Ronan Farrow says inadequate security funding from Congress leads to tragedies like Benghazi
By Katie Sanders on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014 at 5:21 p.m.

"What's even more important for this fact-check is embassy security spending grew tremendously post 9/11.

From 1998 to 2012, the embassy security budget rose by more than 1,000 percent from $200 million to $2.6 billion, Norris said, and the infusion of money means that there are four security personnel for every diplomat. Base security funds, which represent a chunk of the total spending represented in the chart above, increased by 32 percent from fiscal year 2008 to 2012, according to CRS.

"If you look at the numbers in what we’re spending, it’s really hard to make the case that (budget constraints) is kind of the root cause of it," Norris said.

But was that Congress' fault?

The report said Congress "must do its part" to address security risks and meet mission imperatives and suggested the State Department get more flexibility for building money so temporary facilities in dangerous situations can get more advanced security upgrades.

But it primarily faulted "systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies," and not unfulfilled budget requests.

Another finding: The embassy in Tripoli was not an effective advocate in pressing Washington to provide more security for the Benghazi compound, which included a CIA annex. Senate committee investigations also cite unanswered cables for more temporary officers from Libyan Ambassador Christopher Stevens to the State Department.

State Department officials, meanwhile have said publicly that budgets were not a factor."

Ronan Farrow says inadequate security funding from Congress leads to tragedies like Benghazi

Republicans including the following sad sack reduced security funding due to economic hardships that Republicans caused. Why can't you understand that?

GOP Rep: I ‘Absolutely’ Voted To Cut Funding For Embassy Security
 
Correct. It couldn't have anything to do with unions. It couldn't have had anything to do with taxation. It couldn't have had anything to do with burdensome regulations or environmental nonsense. It had to do with Republicans.

Republicans haven't been pushing for living wages for the middle class.

That is true, because a "living wage" as you call it would have a domino effect causing inflation. Isn't it bad enough that we can't even compete with overseas products as it is without increasing our wages to make us less competitive? Isn't it bad enough that more and more industries are turning to automation to replace humans--even McDonald's franchise owners because of increased human wages?
 
How do you figure ?

Benghazi ? Even if he did lie , that Woulve been after the deaths . So talking your version of things it's still doesn't = lied n people died .

He forgets the fact the cause was Republicans cutting the security budget, and Marines were replaced with CIA employees.

Perhaps you should learn what a fact is first:

Ronan Farrow says inadequate security funding from Congress leads to tragedies like Benghazi
By Katie Sanders on Tuesday, May 13th, 2014 at 5:21 p.m.

"What's even more important for this fact-check is embassy security spending grew tremendously post 9/11.

From 1998 to 2012, the embassy security budget rose by more than 1,000 percent from $200 million to $2.6 billion, Norris said, and the infusion of money means that there are four security personnel for every diplomat. Base security funds, which represent a chunk of the total spending represented in the chart above, increased by 32 percent from fiscal year 2008 to 2012, according to CRS.

"If you look at the numbers in what we’re spending, it’s really hard to make the case that (budget constraints) is kind of the root cause of it," Norris said.

But was that Congress' fault?

The report said Congress "must do its part" to address security risks and meet mission imperatives and suggested the State Department get more flexibility for building money so temporary facilities in dangerous situations can get more advanced security upgrades.

But it primarily faulted "systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies," and not unfulfilled budget requests.

Another finding: The embassy in Tripoli was not an effective advocate in pressing Washington to provide more security for the Benghazi compound, which included a CIA annex. Senate committee investigations also cite unanswered cables for more temporary officers from Libyan Ambassador Christopher Stevens to the State Department.

State Department officials, meanwhile have said publicly that budgets were not a factor."

Ronan Farrow says inadequate security funding from Congress leads to tragedies like Benghazi

Republicans including the following sad sack reduced security funding due to economic hardships that Republicans caused. Why can't you understand that?

GOP Rep: I ‘Absolutely’ Voted To Cut Funding For Embassy Security

Because your so-called evidence is from a commie site called Think Progressive while what I offered was a Politafact investigation. What can't you understand about that? You probably had no idea where I pasted that information from because you didn't bother reading it.
 
You would think with the massive growth of the welfare system people would be doing better... But as was expected the nation only got more poor.

The only massive growth in welfare is direct or in-direct corporate welfare. For instance, I'll make $36.5M this year (the same as I made last year) but I'll pay .02% less in taxes. Same gross, but more net. THANK YOU REPUBLICANS!!!!!
 
Which fact isn't true?

151109-ben-carson-true-or-false.jpg

And they reach to a far left drone site to present their case and ask you to prove a negative..

Once again showing why the far left is the most dangerous religion on the planet.

It is a distraction to take the eye of the lying Obama..

So out of all the supposed lies has got anyone killed?

Obama lied and people died.
Anything left of Rush is COMMIE!! Annenberg? lol, fool.

Yes we know anything that is right of the far left is right wing..

Guess that is why so many of you drones are starting promote that socialism is right wing..
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

Do you still have your doctor ?
A prediction. Caused by insurer/hospital networks more than O-Care. And BTW, you're FULL of Pubcrappe.
‘Millions’ Lost Insurance

Several years ago, the Obama administration fiddled with the Census Bureau’s definition of what it means to be “uninsured.” The new parameters, which were looser than the old factors, make it hard to construct comparisons between today’s figures for the total number of uninsured and the historical trends.

The Obama team also abruptly started to exclude uninsured illegal immigrants from the national tally on total number of uninsured Americans. Before Obamacare, these individuals were counted in that reporting, inflating the numbers. After Obamacare, these individuals didn’t get insurance, but suddenly didn’t get counted any more.

How Many People Has Obamacare Really Insured?

The law was supposed to insure the 30 million people that did not have insurance..

Even the CBO says that after full implementation and the cost of trillions of dollars that 30 million will still be without insurance.

Just remember that if you like your plan you can keep your plan. One of the biggest lies that the far left still believes..
If it wasn't a scam, duh. Half of that 30 million are insured now. 20 million if Red states would stop mindlessly blocking Medicaid expansion. You don't KNOW how FOS you are, hater dupe. These are facts that don't reach you. Change the gd channel.


Obamacare Falls Short on Sign-Ups While Co-Op System Crumbles
By Eric Pianin

October 18, 2015

"The big health news last week was that the Affordable Care Act appears to be losing steam and the Obama administration is predicting a modest increase at best in the number of Americans who will enroll with private insurers next year.

Health and Human Services Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell announced on Thursday that an estimated 10 million Americas would be covered by Obamacare by the end of 2016, an increase of roughly 100,000 over the current year’s enrollment. That’s a lot lower than many were expecting. The Congressional Budget Office in June predicted 20 million Americans would be covered by the end of next year."

Obamacare Falls Short on Sign-Ups While Co-Op System Crumbles

That's sad for middle class Americans. But all of the insurance companies will make BILLIONS.
 
That is true, because a "living wage" as you call it would have a domino effect causing inflation. Isn't it bad enough that we can't even compete with overseas products as it is without increasing our wages to make us less competitive? Isn't it bad enough that more and more industries are turning to automation to replace humans--even McDonald's franchise owners because of increased human wages?

Which is why I have a plan that wouldn't cause inflation.


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.



My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.



My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.



My plan would end all welfare.



My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.



My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.
 
Because your so-called evidence is from a commie site called Think Progressive while what I offered was a Politafact investigation. What can't you understand about that? You probably had no idea where I pasted that information from because you didn't bother reading it.

Do you have some proof that Think Progress has ties with the American Communist Party, or is that what you call all factual information that shows you are ignorant?
 
You would think with the massive growth of the welfare system people would be doing better... But as was expected the nation only got more poor.

The only massive growth in welfare is direct or in-direct corporate welfare. For instance, I'll make $36.5M this year (the same as I made last year) but I'll pay .02% less in taxes. Same gross, but more net. THANK YOU REPUBLICANS!!!!!


something wrong here? typo?

0.02% of 36.5M is almost nothing at that level? $7300?

2% less would be $730K
 
Because your so-called evidence is from a commie site called Think Progressive while what I offered was a Politafact investigation. What can't you understand about that? You probably had no idea where I pasted that information from because you didn't bother reading it.

Do you have some proof that Think Progress has ties with the American Communist Party, or is that what you call all factual information that shows you are ignorant?

Can't admit when you are wrong so try to change the subject? Think you're the first liberal I've ever discussed politics with or something?
 
That is true, because a "living wage" as you call it would have a domino effect causing inflation. Isn't it bad enough that we can't even compete with overseas products as it is without increasing our wages to make us less competitive? Isn't it bad enough that more and more industries are turning to automation to replace humans--even McDonald's franchise owners because of increased human wages?

Which is why I have a plan that wouldn't cause inflation.


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.



My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.



My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.



My plan would end all welfare.



My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.



My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

Your plan is not well thought out.

If $23,00 for minimum wage is good, then $43.00 per hour is even better. If $43.00 per hour for minimum wage is better, then $66.00 per hour must be the best.

How could this not cause inflation? If your plan were to go into effect, a $150,000 house today would cost over $300,000 within a few years. Your Big Mac combo would go from $5.50 per meal to $8.50 per meal. Your automobile would go from $27,000 to $40,000. How are you ahead?

All you would really accomplish is distancing ourselves further from our foreign competitors. Let me put it another way:

You have a company that makes widgets. You have starting positions at federal minimum wage. You have better paying positions at $10.00 per hour. You have skilled positions paying $18.00 per hour and the scale increases from there.

You are barely able to stay competitive with your foreign entities, but you still manage to provide some decent jobs and benefits.

Now you are forced to pay all employees $23.50 per hour. Would you still be able to compete with your competitors in China and India? Of course not. You would have to move out of the country or close shop.

Before you respond, remember that your employees that were making up to ten dollars over the old minimum wage would not be happy being back at minimum wage no matter what it was, so you would have to pay them even more. Then your skilled workers would have to make $34.00 per hour and up. Even your non-skilled workers would have to earn at least $26.00 per hour. How could you stay in business?
 
Obama lied through his entire life and lied while running for president and has continue to lie as president..

The Carson distraction is nothing more than the far left distracting the fact that Obama lied and people died..

Which fact isn't true?

151109-ben-carson-true-or-false.jpg

And they reach to a far left drone site to present their case and ask you to prove a negative..

Once again showing why the far left is the most dangerous religion on the planet.

It is a distraction to take the eye of the lying Obama..

So out of all the supposed lies has got anyone killed?

Obama lied and people died.
Anything left of Rush is COMMIE!! Annenberg? lol, fool.

Yes we know anything that is right of the far left is right wing..

Guess that is why so many of you drones are starting promote that socialism is right wing..
How about a specific example of a lie ?
If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

Do you still have your doctor ?
A prediction. Caused by insurer/hospital networks more than O-Care. And BTW, you're FULL of Pubcrappe.
‘Millions’ Lost Insurance

Several years ago, the Obama administration fiddled with the Census Bureau’s definition of what it means to be “uninsured.” The new parameters, which were looser than the old factors, make it hard to construct comparisons between today’s figures for the total number of uninsured and the historical trends.

The Obama team also abruptly started to exclude uninsured illegal immigrants from the national tally on total number of uninsured Americans. Before Obamacare, these individuals were counted in that reporting, inflating the numbers. After Obamacare, these individuals didn’t get insurance, but suddenly didn’t get counted any more.

How Many People Has Obamacare Really Insured?

The law was supposed to insure the 30 million people that did not have insurance..

Even the CBO says that after full implementation and the cost of trillions of dollars that 30 million will still be without insurance.

Just remember that if you like your plan you can keep your plan. One of the biggest lies that the far left still believes..
If it wasn't a scam, duh. Half of that 30 million are insured now. 20 million if Red states would stop mindlessly blocking Medicaid expansion. You don't KNOW how FOS you are, hater dupe. These are facts that don't reach you. Change the gd channel.

MEDICAID involves one person being forced to support another person. Why would anyone support being forced to give something to someone when that person should be providing it to themselves?

Why don't you find those who don't have coverage and pay their premiums yourself? The fact the government isn't needed for YOU to do that hasn't reached you.
 
That is true, because a "living wage" as you call it would have a domino effect causing inflation. Isn't it bad enough that we can't even compete with overseas products as it is without increasing our wages to make us less competitive? Isn't it bad enough that more and more industries are turning to automation to replace humans--even McDonald's franchise owners because of increased human wages?

Which is why I have a plan that wouldn't cause inflation.


-Base Federal tax for corporations at 30% of revenue.

-Raise minimum wage to $23.50/hr. Based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation.

-Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

-Adjust Social Security and private/public retirement and pension payments using 1970-2015 price structure.

-Remove the FICA limit.

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation.

-Recall ALL off-shore investments tax free, and disallow any further off-shore investments.

-Make inversion illegal.

My plan would reduce small business costs for employees and taxes to 30%. That's a 15%-30% drop.



My plan would put BILLIONS into the economy daily.



My plan would put the $100 trillion plus currently owned by corporate America back into the economy.



My plan would end all welfare.



My plan would significantly increase social security and pension payments.



My plan would hold prices for 10 years, thus eliminating inflation.

Your plan is not well thought out.

If $23,00 for minimum wage is good, then $43.00 per hour is even better. If $43.00 per hour for minimum wage is better, then $66.00 per hour must be the best.

How could this not cause inflation? If your plan were to go into effect, a $150,000 house today would cost over $300,000 within a few years. Your Big Mac combo would go from $5.50 per meal to $8.50 per meal. Your automobile would go from $27,000 to $40,000. How are you ahead?

All you would really accomplish is distancing ourselves further from our foreign competitors. Let me put it another way:

You have a company that makes widgets. You have starting positions at federal minimum wage. You have better paying positions at $10.00 per hour. You have skilled positions paying $18.00 per hour and the scale increases from there.

You are barely able to stay competitive with your foreign entities, but you still manage to provide some decent jobs and benefits.

Now you are forced to pay all employees $23.50 per hour. Would you still be able to compete with your competitors in China and India? Of course not. You would have to move out of the country or close shop.

Before you respond, remember that your employees that were making up to ten dollars over the old minimum wage would not be happy being back at minimum wage no matter what it was, so you would have to pay them even more. Then your skilled workers would have to make $34.00 per hour and up. Even your non-skilled workers would have to earn at least $26.00 per hour. How could you stay in business?

If $23,00 for minimum wage is good, then $43.00 per hour is even better. If $43.00 per hour for minimum wage is better, then $66.00 per hour must be the best.

If you can justify your wages based on where minimum wage should be using 1970-2015 rise in food, shelter, and transportation then you'd have an argument.

How could this not cause inflation? If your plan were to go into effect, a $150,000 house today would cost over $300,000 within a few years. Your Big Mac combo would go from $5.50 per meal to $8.50 per meal. Your automobile would go from $27,000 to $40,000. How are you ahead?

-Back down ALL costs, prices, fees, to January 1, 2009 levels and hold them for 10 years which will eliminate inflation. Inflation is caused by a rise in good and services, no rise, no inflation.

All you would really accomplish is distancing ourselves further from our foreign competitors. Let me put it another way:

You have a company that makes widgets. You have starting positions at federal minimum wage. You have better paying positions at $10.00 per hour. You have skilled positions paying $18.00 per hour and the scale increases from there.

You are barely able to stay competitive with your foreign entities, but you still manage to provide some decent jobs and benefits.

Now you are forced to pay all employees $23.50 per hour. Would you still be able to compete with your competitors in China and India? Of course not. You would have to move out of the country or close shop.

Before you respond, remember that your employees that were making up to ten dollars over the old minimum wage would not be happy being back at minimum wage no matter what it was, so you would have to pay them even more. Then your skilled workers would have to make $34.00 per hour and up. Even your non-skilled workers would have to earn at least $26.00 per hour. How could you stay in business?

Eliminate all business subsidies (deductions/write-offs/write-downs) except for employee expenses which are deducted dollar-for-dollar on all city, state, and Federal taxes and fees with the Feds refunding city, State, and fees.

-Companies with 500 employees or less, employee expenses above the deduction are subsidized at 100% with funds usually give back to the States.

My plan reduces all employee costs as well as State/local taxes and fees to 30% gross.

Example:

A company that grosses $100K will have a $30K federal tax. Typical employee expenses, State/local taxes and fees are $55k, the federal tax is off-set and a subsidy check for $25K is issued.
 
MEDICAID involves one person being forced to support another person. Why would anyone support being forced to give something to someone when that person should be providing it to themselves?

Why don't you find those who don't have coverage and pay their premiums yourself? The fact the government isn't needed for YOU to do that hasn't reached you.

If wage disparity wasn't a fact, we'd not need Medicaid.
 
Obamacare made that an impossibility. Before Obamacare, people kept the doctor they liked. After it, many didn't based on the legislation. Sorry, it's you BOY's fault.

ACA didn't write the policies, insurance companies did. Place blame where blame belongs.....Insurance companies.

Blame: If Reagan hadn't screwed with the HMO act, we'd not be discussing this.
 
Obamacare made that an impossibility. Before Obamacare, people kept the doctor they liked. After it, many didn't based on the legislation. Sorry, it's you BOY's fault.

ACA didn't write the policies, insurance companies did. Place blame where blame belongs.....Insurance companies.

Blame: If Reagan hadn't screwed with the HMO act, we'd not be discussing this.
Insurance companies didn't vote on it or sign it into law. That means those who passed it, the Democrats, are to blame.
 
How about a specific example of a lie ?

Timmy, you must have been at nappy time when Obama said" if you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan....etc" a thousand fucking times!!


You're a little child, so please don't try to engage in adult conversations.
 

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