SmarterThanTheAverageBear
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So according to you, if he says he did not know it was the police, the cops don't have to do anything? That is not how the law works. The prosecution must affirm the cops identified themselves or end of case.When police have a no knock warrant they have a legal right to be in your home (or wherever the warrant is for) and so it is up to you to PROVE they didn't announce.
How could anybody ever prove the police did not announce themselves at 5:30 in the morning before entering? Even if a home has cameras, there is no audio. You don't make any sense, and when there is a jury, that is important.![]()
How can you prove it? Depositions and evidence. THat evidence being any radio logs, personal cameras, etc etc. I don't know about in the civilian world but we recorded every incident start to finish. And believe me, if there are 8 police officers involved here, you will know if lies are happening. 9 out of 10 times when a group like that lies, no matter who they are, there stories will all be identical. you see 8 identical stories, someones lying.
Oh, and as I said earlier, you don't actually have to PROVE it, you merely have to convince a jury that the police didn't announce their presence. The police on the other hand are not required to prove they did to negate your claim of self defense. It is an AFFIRMATIVE defense, meaning ALL the burden is on you to convince a jury that you did what you did for a reason. In this case that reason would be "I didn't know it was the police" well then logically you must reasonably show that you didn't know it was the police.
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You're wrong. Do you know what an affirmative defense is ? Fuck dude, I showed you the definition, the defendant must PROVE he had a legal right to do what otherwise would be illegal. Killing another human being is otherwise illegal, so you must PROVE that you had a legal right to do so, meaning you have to PROVE you didn't know they were police.
He can prove he believed there was a burglar breaking in, which then proves he didn't know it was the police.
What? That is so convoluted it isn't even funny.
If he testifies and says "I thought it was a burglar" , the DA is of course going to say "Did the police identify themselves?" At which point he will have to prove they didn't and that is why he thought they were burglars.
Come on folks, this is common fucking sense.