Manchin Screws 36 million poor and middle class

[EyeBRollin]

I guess things have to be explained to you very, very simply, using small words.

I take $1000 of my money and buy a US Treasury. That is a loan to the US Government. The government takes that money and uses it to buy puppies for hookers, or booze for Nancy Pelosi, or to build a road.

I hold the Treasury while the government pays me interest on the $1000 I loaned it. When the bond reaches maturity, the government pays me pack my $1000 and it goes back into my pocket.

I have made a small profit off that $1000.

At no point was any money printed.

Wrong. You’ve been conned my friend. The government pays you for that bond by simply wiring the money into your checking account. Poof! You do not supply the US government with US dollars. Not you. Not China.

 

[EyeBRollin]

The government is not analogous to Monopoly you simple-minded fool.

Oh but it is. The government is not analogous to you. In your twisted worldview, the players supply the bank with dollars. The players pay the bank $200 for passing go. Reality is precisely the exact opposite.

 

[g5000]

Wrong. You’ve been conned my friend. The government pays you for that bond by simply wiring the money into your checking account. Poof! You do not supply the US government with US dollars. Not you. Not China.

Oh wow.

Wow wow wow wow wow.

We have reached the event horizon of the black hole of your stupidity.

I cannot go any further.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Oh wow.

Wow wow wow wow wow.

We have reached the event horizon of the black hole of your stupidity.

I cannot go any further.

Good. Run along, conservative. Go loan Nancy Pelosi some more money!

 

[bripat9643]

Nope. Republicans have controlled the House Ways and Means committee for 19 of the last 30 years, and the Senate Finance Committee for 18 of those years.

They have controlled the House and/or the Senate for 22 of the last 30 years. That's all it takes to hold the country for ransom.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

He thinks he gets 200 to pass go? Hahaha I wonder where his Go is? Agog, can’t make it up

His Go whatever he can loot

 

[bripat9643]

Why not give Scab Americans a chance to work in manufacturing Electric Vehicles too?

The quality of Toyotas and Hondas being built by Scab Americans is high.

There's nothing I hate more than union assholes holding the country for ransom.

 

[bripat9643]

Government doesn’t work that way. Money is created and destroyed by strokes on a keyboard.

Poof!

If you believe the government can create money at will with the snap of the fingers without causing any economic harm, then you are an economic ignoramus. Germany tried that in 1923. There result was $100 trillion mark notes.

 

[jc456]

All this stupid irresponsible shit is why 51 of the Senators are against that stupid bill:

This is the kind of worthless wacko shit Joe Potatohead wants to put us more in debt for:



https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5376/text

Page 3-4: (1) $10,000,000,000 for hazardous fuels reduction projects within the wildland-urban interface;
(2) $4,000,000,000 for, on a determination by the Secretary that hazardous fuels within the wildland-urban interface have been effectively treated to prevent the spread of wildfire to at-risk communities, hazardous fuels reduction projects outside the wildland-urban interface

Assessment: This is at least $14 billion in the first two pages of the bill that is pork. Reducing vegetation is up to individuals or local communities. It also reduces vegetation that takes in CO2 which is supposedly the deadliest risk to mankind.

The other aspect that shows it is bogus is that it is a huge, made up round number. One or more people just threw a dart at a board to get these numbers.

Page 14: $10 billion for similar fuel reduction projects on tribal lands

Pages 20-21: $2.250 billion to be used for staffing salaries, and other workforce needs and expenses to support the development of a Civilian Climate Corps for carrying out projects on non-Federal land through the Forest Service State.....

Page 31: $2.17175 billion for unknown projects from a 20 year old act (Rural Energy for America Program established under section 9007 of the Farm Security and Rural Investment Act of 2002

Page 33: $960 million to upgrade equipment supporting greater that 10% ethanol or 20% biodiesel.

Assessment: This is the responsibility of the equipment owner. Ethanol needs to be banned from gasoline.

Page 34: $9.7 billion to repower rural energy systems to reduce fake (opinion) greenhouse gases

Page 48: $2.664,5 billion for fiscal year 2022, for grants for construction, alteration, acquisition, modernization, renovation, or remodeling of agricultural research facilities......

Page 54: About $80 billion for a Rebuild America Schools program

Page 126: $9 billion for TUITION ASSISTANCE FOR STUDENTS AT HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES, TRIBAL COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES, AND MINORITY-SERVING INSTITUTIONS

Pages 167-169: $2.609 billion to Department of Labor agencies. This appears to be additional funding beyond their normal annual funding with no apparent need. The various stimulus bills of 2020 (maybe 2021 as well) had many millions going to US government agencies with no real limit on the use. I would like to see funding for these agencies for the last five years along with funding from the stimulus bills and this one.

None of this is infrastructure related and should be removed along with all other non-infrastructure funding.

Page 183: $9.054 billion for YOUTH WORKFORCE INVESTMENT ACTIVITIES

Pages 185-195: $23.35 billion for re-employment activities and grants

Page 200: $450 million for migrant worker programs

Page 202: $3.6 billion for adult education and literacy

Page 222: $1.48 billion for direct care (health) worker programs

Pages 250-251: ~210 billion for birth to age five child care. Assumption is $40 billion per year for fiscal years 2025 - 2027 even though those years have unstated funding (it is "as required" and I assumed $40 billion/ year).

Page 292: $2.5 billion for each of fiscal years 2022 through 2027 to improve compensation of Head Start staff

Page 333: $500 million for school kitchen equipment

Pages 343 - 344: $5 billion for clean heavy duty vehicles:

Implement a program to make awards of grants and rebates to eligible recipients, and to make awards of contracts to eligible contractors for providing rebates, for up to 100 percent of costs for ‘‘(1) replacing eligible vehicles with zero-emission vehicles; ‘‘(2) infrastructure needed to charge, fuel, or maintain zero-emission vehicles; ‘‘(3) workforce development and training to support the maintenance, charging, fueling, and operation of zero-emission vehicles; and ‘‘(4) planning and technical activities to support the adoption and deployment of zero-emission vehicles.

Page 346: $3.5 billion to reduce air pollution at ports

Page 350: $27.49 billion for a greenhouse gas reduction fund

Page 374: $10 billion for the Superfund

Page 374-375: $750 million to reduce waste in communities

Page 377: $10 billion for Environmental and Climate Justice block grants

Page 379: $30 billion for drinking water lead service line replacement

Page 399: $9 billion to institute guidelines for State energy offices to provide rebates to homeowners and aggregators for whole-house energy saving retrofits

Page 415 - 417: $9 billion for a high efficiency electric home rebate program.

Page 445: $3.5 billion for a weatherization assistance program

Page 446: $3.2 billion for critical facility modernization. See text for suitable project types.

Page 452: $2 billion for electric vehicle infrastructure buildout

Come on, who the fk cares , it’s just Monopoly money to demofks, eyesrolin told me so. He passes go and gets 200.00 dollars. When his bank runs out, he makes more monopoly money

 

[bripat9643]

Wrong. All US government funds are printed. It creates money out of thin air, with the stroke of a keyboard.

Wrong. I haven't held an actual paper note in my hands in 6 months.

 

[EyeBRollin]

If you believe the government can create money at will with the snap of the fingers without causing any economic harm, then you are an economic ignoramus. Germany tried that in 1923. There result was $100 trillion mark notes.

They can and they do. Yesterday. Today. And Tomorrow.

Another ignorant conservative talking point is to compare the USA to the Weimar Republic.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Wrong. I haven't held an actual paper note in my hands in 6 months.

Don’t get cute, conservative. Printing in this context does not mean literally printing paper notes. The other conservatives all understood this.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Don’t get cute, conservative. Printing in this context does not mean literally printing paper notes. The other conservatives all understood this.

You don't know shit son.

 

[EyeBRollin]

You don't know shit son.

I am not your son, conservative.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

They can and they do. Yesterday. Today. And Tomorrow.

Another ignorant conservative talking point is to compare the USA to the Weimar Republic.

You still have not answered my question LOL.

Here is another. Why can't Cuba just print money or Uruguay? Why not other countries?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I am not your son, conservative.

Do you know whose son you are?!?!? KIDDING!! RELAX PEOPLE!!!! Had to hit that hanging curve.

 

[JWBooth]

but think of all the future children that wont have to pay off our debt,,

Joe Manchin has done more to fight inflation than the GOP

 

[EyeBRollin]

You still have not answered my question LOL.

Here is another. Why can't Cuba just print money or Uruguay? Why not other countries?

Typical conservative. Goes to Cuba and Uruguay for comparison rather than Canada and the UK.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Typical conservative. Goes to Cuba and Uruguay for comparison rather than Canada and the UK.

Why can’t Canada and UK just print money?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Why can’t Canada and UK just print money?

They can and they do.