Martial Law Imminent USA 2009!

[Cold Fusion38]

I mean would anybody report Terral as missing if he were abducted?

 

[DiveCon]

I mean would anybody report Terral as missing if he were abducted?

well, i hope he has SOMEONE that would

 

[Cold Fusion38]

His cat?

 

[eots]

Are you aware that I have a small hole in my screen door?

Both events are of equal importance to the world at at large. Hardin Montana....is that Hannah's older sister or something?

Seriously dude, try to stay focused.

and a even larger one in your head filled with dumbed downed pop stars...what is important about Hardin is remaining vigilant against violations of Posse Comitatus and the constitution...but really don't worry about..go back to your news soundbites and pop culture its not like I m counting on or require your support

um, Posse Comitatus wouldn't be effected by this private security firm, since they are not the US Military

Posse Comitatus Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is an American army col..a yugoslavian criminal..with access to tens of millions of dollars. from undisclosed sources...purchasing a prison for undisclosed inmates and a area police..being given benzos to drive with American police force written on them...no...no cause for concern here...

 

[eots]

Are you aware that I have a small hole in my screen door?

Both events are of equal importance to the world at at large. Hardin Montana....is that Hannah's older sister or something?

Seriously dude, try to stay focused.

and a even larger one in your head filled with dumbed downed pop stars...what is important about Hardin is remaining vigilant against violations of Posse Comitatus and the constitution...but really don't worry about..go back to your news soundbites and pop culture its not like I m counting on or require your support

um, Posse Comitatus wouldn't be effected by this private security firm, since they are not the US Military

Posse Comitatus Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is an American army col..a Yugoslavian criminal..with access to tens of millions of dollars. from undisclosed sources...purchasing a prison for undisclosed inmates and a area police..being given benzos to drive with American police force written on them...no...no cause for concern here...

 

[DiveCon]

and a even larger one in your head filled with dumbed downed pop stars...what is important about Hardin is remaining vigilant against violations of Posse Comitatus and the constitution...but really don't worry about..go back to your news soundbites and pop culture its not like I m counting on or require your support

um, Posse Comitatus wouldn't be effected by this private security firm, since they are not the US Military

Posse Comitatus Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is an American army col..a Yugoslavian criminal..with access to tens of millions of dollars. from undisclosed sources...purchasing a prison for undisclosed inmates and a area police..being given benzos to drive with American police force written on them...no...no cause for concern here...

wow
you have no fucking clue what you are talking about
it would still have NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POSSE COMITATUS ACT

 

[eots]

Patriot Act used for more than anti-terror
Justice report also reveals 50 secretly detained after 9/11

Dan Eggen, Washington Post

Wednesday, May 21, 2003


(05-21) 04:00 PDT Washington -- The Justice Department has used many of the anti-terrorism powers granted in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to pursue defendants for crimes unrelated to terrorism, including drug violations, credit card fraud and bank theft, according to a government accounting released Tuesday.


In a 60-page report to the House Judiciary Committee, Justice officials also confirmed for the first time that nearly 50 defendants were secretly detained as material witnesses in connection with the investigation of the Sept. 11 attacks. The government has not previously characterized how many defendants had been held
Patriot Act used for more than anti-terror / Justice report also reveals 50 secretly detained after 9/11


"Although the Department of Justice has not been forthcoming, some abuses have seen the light of day," Romero added. "It is quite likely that there are many more abuses being kept hidden from the American public and Congress. Such secrecy is abhorrent to our rule of law."
Both the Senate and House Judiciary Committees are expected to hold oversight hearings on the Patriot Act this week. Lawmakers will only hear from administration officials at these inaugural hearings, and the ACLU has asked that members question Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and FBI Director Robert Mueller about the abuses and misuses of the Patriot Act.

According to reports, the Patriot Act has been used to:

Secretly search the home of Brandon Mayfield, a Muslim attorney whom the government wrongly suspected, accused and detained as a perpetrator of the recent train bombing in Madrid.
Charge, detain, and prosecute a Muslim student in Idaho, Sami al-Hussayen, for providing "material support" to terrorists because he posted to an Internet website links to objectionable materials, even though such links were available on the websites of a major news outlet and of the government's own expert witness in the case.
Serve a National Security Letter (NSL) on an Internet Service Provider (ISP) so coercive under the provisions of the NSL statue that a federal court struck down the entire statute - as vastly expanded by the Patriot Act - used to obtain information about e-mail activity and web surfing for intelligence investigations.
Gag that ISP from disclosing this abuse to the public, and gag the ACLU itself, which represents the ISP, from disclosing this abuse to the public when ACLU became aware of it, and from disclosing important circumstances relating to this abuse and other possible abuses of the gag, even to this very day.
Investigate and prosecute crimes that are not terrorism offenses, even though it cited terrorism prevention as the reason Congress should enact the law, and cites terrorism prevention as the reason why it cannot be changed.


American Civil Liberties Union : Patriot Act Abuses and Misuses Abound, ACLU Says; Disclosure Comes Before Congress Begins Review of Controversial Law

 

[candycorn]

and a even larger one in your head filled with dumbed downed pop stars...what is important about Hardin is remaining vigilant against violations of Posse Comitatus and the constitution...but really don't worry about..go back to your news soundbites and pop culture its not like I m counting on or require your support

um, Posse Comitatus wouldn't be effected by this private security firm, since they are not the US Military

Posse Comitatus Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is an American army col..a Yugoslavian criminal..with access to tens of millions of dollars. from undisclosed sources...purchasing a prison for undisclosed inmates and a area police..being given benzos to drive with American police force written on them...no...no cause for concern here...

Yeah, you're right...since according to you the plan was thwarted. Now back to Hannah Montana...you say she's appearing at Hardin Montana?

 

[DiveCon]

Patriot Act used for more than anti-terror
Justice report also reveals 50 secretly detained after 9/11

Dan Eggen, Washington Post

Wednesday, May 21, 2003


(05-21) 04:00 PDT Washington -- The Justice Department has used many of the anti-terrorism powers granted in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to pursue defendants for crimes unrelated to terrorism, including drug violations, credit card fraud and bank theft, according to a government accounting released Tuesday.


In a 60-page report to the House Judiciary Committee, Justice officials also confirmed for the first time that nearly 50 defendants were secretly detained as material witnesses in connection with the investigation of the Sept. 11 attacks. The government has not previously characterized how many defendants had been held
Patriot Act used for more than anti-terror / Justice report also reveals 50 secretly detained after 9/11


"Although the Department of Justice has not been forthcoming, some abuses have seen the light of day," Romero added. "It is quite likely that there are many more abuses being kept hidden from the American public and Congress. Such secrecy is abhorrent to our rule of law."
Both the Senate and House Judiciary Committees are expected to hold oversight hearings on the Patriot Act this week. Lawmakers will only hear from administration officials at these inaugural hearings, and the ACLU has asked that members question Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and FBI Director Robert Mueller about the abuses and misuses of the Patriot Act.

According to reports, the Patriot Act has been used to:

Secretly search the home of Brandon Mayfield, a Muslim attorney whom the government wrongly suspected, accused and detained as a perpetrator of the recent train bombing in Madrid.
Charge, detain, and prosecute a Muslim student in Idaho, Sami al-Hussayen, for providing "material support" to terrorists because he posted to an Internet website links to objectionable materials, even though such links were available on the websites of a major news outlet and of the government's own expert witness in the case.
Serve a National Security Letter (NSL) on an Internet Service Provider (ISP) so coercive under the provisions of the NSL statue that a federal court struck down the entire statute - as vastly expanded by the Patriot Act - used to obtain information about e-mail activity and web surfing for intelligence investigations.
Gag that ISP from disclosing this abuse to the public, and gag the ACLU itself, which represents the ISP, from disclosing this abuse to the public when ACLU became aware of it, and from disclosing important circumstances relating to this abuse and other possible abuses of the gag, even to this very day.
Investigate and prosecute crimes that are not terrorism offenses, even though it cited terrorism prevention as the reason Congress should enact the law, and cites terrorism prevention as the reason why it cannot be changed.


American Civil Liberties Union : Patriot Act Abuses and Misuses Abound, ACLU Says; Disclosure Comes Before Congress Begins Review of Controversial Law

and you know that the laws used to fight those particular crimes were rolled INTO the patriot act (IE RICO laws)


so big fuckin WHOP

 

[RetiredGySgt]

and a even larger one in your head filled with dumbed downed pop stars...what is important about Hardin is remaining vigilant against violations of Posse Comitatus and the constitution...but really don't worry about..go back to your news soundbites and pop culture its not like I m counting on or require your support

um, Posse Comitatus wouldn't be effected by this private security firm, since they are not the US Military

Posse Comitatus Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There is an American army col..a yugoslavian criminal..with access to tens of millions of dollars. from undisclosed sources...purchasing a prison for undisclosed inmates and a area police..being given benzos to drive with American police force written on them...no...no cause for concern here...

This is amazing, you still haven't answered my question. You made a claim now back it the fuck up.

 

[eots]

they have already started under the patriot act...can you say...gitmo

Name any US citizen arrested and sent to Gitmo. Hell name any immigrant that was INSIDE the US and arrested and sent to Gitmo that a court did not order returned to the the US.

I noticed EOTS failed to answer this one. Where ya ta EOTS, you made the claim now answer the question.

I never made that statement you said get back to you when the illegal arrest start...I said illegal arrest already started with gitmo and the patriot act

 

[eots]

representatives, American Police Force claims to sell assault rifles and other weapons in Afghanistan on behalf of the U.S. military while providing security, investigative work and other services to clients “in all 50 states and most countries.” The company also boasts to have “rapid response units awaiting our orders worldwide” and that it can field a battalion-sized team of special forces soldiers “wi thin 72 hours.” Re p r e s e n t a t i v e s o f American Police Force said t h e company pre s e n t l y employs at least 16 and as many as 28 people in the United States and 1,600 contractors worldwide. “APF plays a critical role in helping the U.S. government meet vital homeland security and national defense needs,” the company says on its Web site. “Within the last 5 years the United States has been far and away our” No. 1 client.



.Associated Press search of two comprehensive federal government contractor databases turned up no record of American Police Force. Representatives of security trade groups said they had never heard of American Police Force, although they added secrecy was prevalent in the industry and it was possible the company had avoided the public limelight. “They’re really invisible,” said Alan Chvotkin, executive vice president and counsel for the Professional Services Council. The group’s members include major security cont ra c t o r s Tr i p l e Ca n o py, DynCorp and Xe Services, formerly known as Blackwater Worldwide.


American Police Force also is promising to invest $30 million in new projects for the city, including a military and law enforcement training center with a 250-bed dormitory and an expansion of the jail to 2,000 beds. The company says it will build a homeless shelter, offer free health care for city residents and even deliver meals to the needy..... Where the prisoners would come from is unclear.


- Local Headlines

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Name any US citizen arrested and sent to Gitmo. Hell name any immigrant that was INSIDE the US and arrested and sent to Gitmo that a court did not order returned to the the US.

I noticed EOTS failed to answer this one. Where ya ta EOTS, you made the claim now answer the question.

I never made that statement you said get back to you when the illegal arrest start...I said illegal arrest already started with gitmo and the patriot act

So you admit No american citizen and No legal or even illegal immigrant has ever been arrested illegally and moved to Gitmo? The only time it was to happen the Courts forbade it and ordered the individual held inside the US. No one inside the US has ever been arrested inside the US and permanently held at Gitmo.

You lied, admit it. You have no examples of supposed illegal police action by the Government in arrests and detention even under the Patriot act.

 

[DiveCon]

representatives, american police force claims to sell assault rifles and other weapons in afghanistan on behalf of the u.s. Military while providing security, investigative work and other services to clients “in all 50 states and most countries.” the company also boasts to have “rapid response units awaiting our orders worldwide” and that it can field a battalion-sized team of special forces soldiers “wi thin 72 hours.” re p r e s e n t a t i v e s o f american police force said t h e company pre s e n t l y employs at least 16 and as many as 28 people in the united states and 1,600 contractors worldwide. “apf plays a critical role in helping the u.s. Government meet vital homeland security and national defense needs,” the company says on its web site. “within the last 5 years the united states has been far and away our” no. 1 client.



.associated press search of two comprehensive federal government contractor databases turned up no record of american police force. Representatives of security trade groups said they had never heard of american police force, although they added secrecy was prevalent in the industry and it was possible the company had avoided the public limelight. “they’re really invisible,” said alan chvotkin, executive vice president and counsel for the professional services council. The group’s members include major security cont ra c t o r s tr i p l e ca n o py, dyncorp and xe services, formerly known as blackwater worldwide.


american police force also is promising to invest $30 million in new projects for the city, including a military and law enforcement training center with a 250-bed dormitory and an expansion of the jail to 2,000 beds. the company says it will build a homeless shelter, offer free health care for city residents and even deliver meals to the needy..... where the prisoners would come from is unclear.


- local headlines

those evil bastards

 

[eots]

I noticed EOTS failed to answer this one. Where ya ta EOTS, you made the claim now answer the question.

I never made that statement you said get back to you when the illegal arrest start...I said illegal arrest already started with gitmo and the patriot act

So you admit No american citizen and No legal or even illegal immigrant has ever been arrested illegally and moved to Gitmo? The only time it was to happen the Courts forbade it and ordered the individual held inside the US. No one inside the US has ever been arrested inside the US and permanently held at Gitmo.

You lied, admit it. You have no examples of supposed illegal police action by the Government in arrests and detention even under the Patriot act.

are you trying to say no American has been detained through the patriot act ?
I mean just because you write an act authorizing illegal arrest does not mean they are not illegal arrest

 

[eots]

representatives, american police force claims to sell assault rifles and other weapons in afghanistan on behalf of the u.s. Military while providing security, investigative work and other services to clients “in all 50 states and most countries.” the company also boasts to have “rapid response units awaiting our orders worldwide” and that it can field a battalion-sized team of special forces soldiers “wi thin 72 hours.” re p r e s e n t a t i v e s o f american police force said t h e company pre s e n t l y employs at least 16 and as many as 28 people in the united states and 1,600 contractors worldwide. “apf plays a critical role in helping the u.s. Government meet vital homeland security and national defense needs,” the company says on its web site. “within the last 5 years the united states has been far and away our” no. 1 client.



.associated press search of two comprehensive federal government contractor databases turned up no record of american police force. Representatives of security trade groups said they had never heard of american police force, although they added secrecy was prevalent in the industry and it was possible the company had avoided the public limelight. “they’re really invisible,” said alan chvotkin, executive vice president and counsel for the professional services council. The group’s members include major security cont ra c t o r s tr i p l e ca n o py, dyncorp and xe services, formerly known as blackwater worldwide.


american police force also is promising to invest $30 million in new projects for the city, including a military and law enforcement training center with a 250-bed dormitory and an expansion of the jail to 2,000 beds. the company says it will build a homeless shelter, offer free health care for city residents and even deliver meals to the needy..... where the prisoners would come from is unclear.


- local headlines

those evil bastards

if it sounds to good...

 

[DiveCon]

representatives, american police force claims to sell assault rifles and other weapons in afghanistan on behalf of the u.s. Military while providing security, investigative work and other services to clients “in all 50 states and most countries.” the company also boasts to have “rapid response units awaiting our orders worldwide” and that it can field a battalion-sized team of special forces soldiers “wi thin 72 hours.” re p r e s e n t a t i v e s o f american police force said t h e company pre s e n t l y employs at least 16 and as many as 28 people in the united states and 1,600 contractors worldwide. “apf plays a critical role in helping the u.s. Government meet vital homeland security and national defense needs,” the company says on its web site. “within the last 5 years the united states has been far and away our” no. 1 client.



.associated press search of two comprehensive federal government contractor databases turned up no record of american police force. Representatives of security trade groups said they had never heard of american police force, although they added secrecy was prevalent in the industry and it was possible the company had avoided the public limelight. “they’re really invisible,” said alan chvotkin, executive vice president and counsel for the professional services council. The group’s members include major security cont ra c t o r s tr i p l e ca n o py, dyncorp and xe services, formerly known as blackwater worldwide.


american police force also is promising to invest $30 million in new projects for the city, including a military and law enforcement training center with a 250-bed dormitory and an expansion of the jail to 2,000 beds. the company says it will build a homeless shelter, offer free health care for city residents and even deliver meals to the needy..... where the prisoners would come from is unclear.


- local headlines

those evil bastards

if it sounds to good...

yeah, they might be promising more than they can deliver, yet none of that is a violation of Posse Comitatus


you do know there are PRIVATE MILITARY TRAINING schools all over the country, right?
private military training - Bing

 

[eots]

hey RGS never mind my opinions for a minute and take a look at this Hardin jail/American police force issue and tell me what you think

Hardin Jail Finally to Get Inmates | The Corrections Reporter - 3 Oct
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[RetiredGySgt]

I never made that statement you said get back to you when the illegal arrest start...I said illegal arrest already started with gitmo and the patriot act

So you admit No american citizen and No legal or even illegal immigrant has ever been arrested illegally and moved to Gitmo? The only time it was to happen the Courts forbade it and ordered the individual held inside the US. No one inside the US has ever been arrested inside the US and permanently held at Gitmo.

You lied, admit it. You have no examples of supposed illegal police action by the Government in arrests and detention even under the Patriot act.

are you trying to say no American has been detained through the patriot act ?
I mean just because you write an act authorizing illegal arrest does not mean they are not illegal arrest

Still waiting for your list of Americans arrested illegally and sent to Gitmo. Though I might settle for some arrested and held indefinitely but not sent to Gitmo.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

RGS you are WILLFULLY mising the FACT that if soemone was ILLEGALLY detained through the "Patriot" act you wouldn't KNOW about it because they would NOT be allowed to hear the charges about them OR contact an attorney. They would simply be made to DISAPPEAR and then they would be able to be taken ANYWHERE and have ANYTHING done to them. I mean I am not jumping on the eots band waggon but you question is ridiculous.