Mass Civil Disobedience in New York Against ‘Safe Act’

[g5000]

When gun control laws are suggested as a means of ridding ourselves of gun violence, gun lovers say "enforce the laws already on the books". And now we see gun lovers refusing to do what they advocate.

Are we simply to accept gun violence as part of our society so a few gun lovers can get their inner Rambo on? Is there a connection between guns and gun violence? Why is that so difficult for gun lovers to see? Should our society accept the pointless deaths, countless victims and ubiquitous fear that comes with gun violence? Should we use the second amendment's opening phrase, "a well regulated militia" to mean what it says and take semi-automatic guns off our streets and put them in the hands of that too often ignored 'well regulated militia'?

This law wasn't "already on the books".

Don't confuse him when he's on a tear!

 

[KNB]

Why do Americans need assault rifles? Overthrowing the Federal government? You're not going to do that, ever, so why do Americans need assault rifles?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Why do Americans need assault rifles? Overthrowing the Federal government? You're not going to do that, ever, so why do Americans need assault rifles?

Where the hell have you been the last few days? Nevada? Rancher? Ring any bells?

 

[OKTexas]

When gun control laws are suggested as a means of ridding ourselves of gun violence, gun lovers say "enforce the laws already on the books". And now we see gun lovers refusing to do what they advocate.

Are we simply to accept gun violence as part of our society so a few gun lovers can get their inner Rambo on? Is there a connection between guns and gun violence? Why is that so difficult for gun lovers to see? Should our society accept the pointless deaths, countless victims and ubiquitous fear that comes with gun violence? Should we use the second amendment's opening phrase, "a well regulated militia" to mean what it says and take semi-automatic guns off our streets and put them in the hands of that too often ignored 'well regulated militia'?

What percentage of gun violence is done with these types of weapons? What percentage of gun violence is done by legally owned and operated weapons of this type, owned by people with a legal right to own them?

A majority of crimes committed with guns are with illegally owned handguns, possessed by people without the right to own them due to criminal pasts. The issue is the gun control people KNOW that going after them would result in a backlash, so they go after the low hanging fruit, the guns that count for a fraction of the actual crimes committed with guns, because the ones that happen are splashy.

We do not trust people like you because we know your true goal, and we know you lie to get to it.

When the police give up their firearms, when the government gives up the right to protect their own people with firearms, then you can have mine. Until then, fuck off.

It's always such a pleasant experience talking with a gun nut. They impose an agenda on everything, don't respond to the questions and end in obscenities. Such mature, sophisticated, well rounded adults. Maybe that's why they get a kick out of playing Army like little boys and believe they can solve the world's problems just like the guys in their favorite action movies.

I'm glad I was raised to think instead of shoot.

I'm glad I was raised with the ability to do both. Those abilities give me vastly more options than you will ever have.

 

[KNB]

Why do Americans need assault rifles? Overthrowing the Federal government? You're not going to do that, ever, so why do Americans need assault rifles?

Where the hell have you been the last few days? Nevada? Rancher? Ring any bells?

Do you mean the Nevada rancher who continues to break the law, so toothless hilljacks showed up with shotguns to defend him? Yeah, so.... why do you need assault rifles?

"To defend rich criminals."

Good job.

 

[JakeStarkey]

So there aren't any solid numbers?

Pictures speak a thousand words. So do the words of sheriffs.

One sheriff and your opinion?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

When gun control laws are suggested as a means of ridding ourselves of gun violence, gun lovers say "enforce the laws already on the books". And now we see gun lovers refusing to do what they advocate.

Are we simply to accept gun violence as part of our society so a few gun lovers can get their inner Rambo on? Is there a connection between guns and gun violence? Why is that so difficult for gun lovers to see? Should our society accept the pointless deaths, countless victims and ubiquitous fear that comes with gun violence? Should we use the second amendment's opening phrase, "a well regulated militia" to mean what it says and take semi-automatic guns off our streets and put them in the hands of that too often ignored 'well regulated militia'?

What percentage of gun violence is done with these types of weapons? What percentage of gun violence is done by legally owned and operated weapons of this type, owned by people with a legal right to own them?

A majority of crimes committed with guns are with illegally owned handguns, possessed by people without the right to own them due to criminal pasts. The issue is the gun control people KNOW that going after them would result in a backlash, so they go after the low hanging fruit, the guns that count for a fraction of the actual crimes committed with guns, because the ones that happen are splashy.

We do not trust people like you because we know your true goal, and we know you lie to get to it.

When the police give up their firearms, when the government gives up the right to protect their own people with firearms, then you can have mine. Until then, fuck off.

It's always such a pleasant experience talking with a gun nut. They impose an agenda on everything, don't respond to the questions and end in obscenities. Such mature, sophisticated, well rounded adults. Maybe that's why they get a kick out of playing Army like little boys and believe they can solve the world's problems just like the guys in their favorite action movies.

I'm glad I was raised to think instead of shoot.

All rifles not just the supposed assault type account for 400 murders a year, 400. The crimes committed with supposed assault weapons are almost nil. Yet your type insist we get rid of a weapon that is almost universally NOT used for crime. Those are the facts dumb ass.

 

[Missourian]

When gun control laws are suggested as a means of ridding ourselves of gun violence, gun lovers say "enforce the laws already on the books". And now we see gun lovers refusing to do what they advocate.

Are we simply to accept gun violence as part of our society so a few gun lovers can get their inner Rambo on? Is there a connection between guns and gun violence? Why is that so difficult for gun lovers to see? Should our society accept the pointless deaths, countless victims and ubiquitous fear that comes with gun violence? Should we use the second amendment's opening phrase, "a well regulated militia" to mean what it says and take semi-automatic guns off our streets and put them in the hands of that too often ignored 'well regulated militia'?

Explain to me how exactly registering semi-automatic rifles reduces gun violence...

I'll help you...it doesn't...not one iota.

Therefore your point is completely moot.

 

[Howey]

I live here so I hear the talk everyday.

The state of New York is refusing to say how many gun owners complied with a mandate to register their assault weapons under the Safe Act while a Sheriff says he will not enforce the measure, suggesting that just like a similar law in Connecticut, the gun control effort has been a total failure as Americans engage in mass civil disobedience against curbs on the Second Amendment.

My sheriff in Suffolk County also publicly announced that he will not enforce it.

lol

» Mass Civil Disobedience in New York Against ?Safe Act? Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

You can always tell when something comes from a conspiracy or right wing kook site when the heading includes words like "shocking", "mass disobedience", "emboldened patriots",
"tyranny", and the like.

The SAFE Act says, “Records assembled or collected for purposes of inclusion in such (a) database shall not be subject to disclosure.”


Ok. C'mon New York. This is what they want, so go ahead and

RELEASE THE NAMES!

 

[The2ndAmendment]

I'm glad I was raised to think instead of shoot.

The Founding Fathers and Patriots of 1776 were raised to do both.

 

[KNB]

Yeah, those slaveowners who believed in freedom really knew how to use their brains......

 

[elektra]

More crime is prevented by armed citizens then by the police.

The Marxist/Liberal/Democrat intends to rule the USA, period.

Guns are an obstacle.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Why do Americans need assault rifles? Overthrowing the Federal government? You're not going to do that, ever, so why do Americans need assault rifles?

Where the hell have you been the last few days? Nevada? Rancher? Ring any bells?

If they had their way, as the MSM demonstrated, they wouldn't even have covered the event and would have pretended it never happened. Thank the Lord alternative media was there to cover it and forced into the MSM.

 

[Defiant1]

I'm glad I was raised to think instead of shoot.

The Founding Fathers and Patriots of 1776 were raised to do both.

You misquoted. I wasn't the one who posted that.

I too was raised to do both.

 

[KNB]

You are aware that FOX News is the most mainstream of all mainstream media, right?

 

[g5000]

Yeah, those slaveowners who believed in freedom really knew how to use their brains......

This kind of ad hominem fallacy is as stupid as when someone snarls about Martin Luther King's mistresses to undermine his civil rights achievements.

Don't be such an idiot ass.

Secondly, not every founder was a slaveowner. They were not a monolithic entity.

If this is all you have, then you have nothing.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Yeah, those slaveowners who believed in freedom really knew how to use their brains......

According to [MENTION=45917]KNB[/MENTION]

Freedom of Speech is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Freedom of Assembly is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Freedom of the Press is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Freedom of Religion is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Freedom of Grievance is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Guns are bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Quartering troops in homes is good, because slave-owners were against it.

Search warrants are bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Trial by Jury is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

The Right to face your accuser is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Habeas Corpus is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Banning Torture was bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Let the list go on.

 

[Defiant1]

It's always such a pleasant experience talking with a gun nut. They impose an agenda on everything, don't respond to the questions and end in obscenities. Such mature, sophisticated, well rounded adults. Maybe that's why they get a kick out of playing Army like little boys and believe they can solve the world's problems just like the guys in their favorite action movies.

I'm glad I was raised to think instead of shoot.

An agenda? There is no agenda when unalienable rights are involved.

Either you believe we are endowed by our creator or you don't.

Check your documents. Inalienable rights endowed by a creator is not mentioned in the constitution of the United States.

You are right because the Constitution was written to limit the powers of the Federal government.

We have the unalienable right to own firearms to protect our other unalienable rights.

The second amendment was written to prevent government from infringing on that right.

 

[g5000]

Yeah, those slaveowners who believed in freedom really knew how to use their brains......

According to [MENTION=45917]KNB[/MENTION]

Freedom of Speech is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Freedom of Assembly is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Freedom of the Press is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Freedom of Religion is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Freedom of Grievance is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Guns are bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Quartering troops in homes is good, because slave-owners were against it.

Search warrants are bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Trial by Jury is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

The Right to face your accuser is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Habeas Corpus is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Banning Torture was bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Let the list go on.

Exactly.

Blacks being able to sit at the front of a bus is bad, because an adulterer helped make it so.

Et cetera. Et cetera.

This is why ad hominem fallacies are stupid.

 

[KNB]

Yeah, those slaveowners who believed in freedom really knew how to use their brains......

According to [MENTION=45917]KNB[/MENTION]

Freedom of Speech is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Freedom of Assembly is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Freedom of the Press is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Freedom of Religion is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Freedom of Grievance is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Guns are bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Quartering troops in homes is good, because slave-owners were against it.

Search warrants are bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Trial by Jury is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

The Right to face your accuser is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Habeas Corpus is bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Banning Torture was bad, because slave-owners wrote it.

Let the list go on.

Actually, I didn't say anything about any of that. Good job for arguing against your own made-up points.

What I did say, however, is that slaveowners who talk about freedom are not using their brains.

Also, if you love all of that "freedom and guns" bullshit then why do you still support the USAPATRIOT Act and the drug war?