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Massive Militia rally in Virginia, this month! WOW

I'm NOT so sure I even support gun rights, anymore.

Its becoming a pretext to a Civil War that helps Russia & China.

Feel free to go to some country that does not guarantee unalienable Rights
Redneck Army

Yep, this is not funny at all. This is serious business, like Rep. Matt Shea and his OT bible. They will start the next civil war if we elect a Democrat Potus, the have hundreds of militias throughout the USA.

That would be magnificent

Disarming will lead to a civil war, and so will guns, deporting illegals much more than this will lead to a civil war, and not deporting them will lead to replacement.

I think we're f*cked.

Capitalism won, it destroyed the West.

I've read a number of your posts before trying to figure out how to best respond to you, but what I am seeing from you is a lack of historical knowledge about the United States.

By definition capitalism is an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

Socialists and communists are hard pressed to show us where socialism or communism has ever worked. Then they will claim that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was not socialist; that Russia was never truly communist. They try to make the argument that The National Socialists weren't socialist, etc., etc. It's all a deflection to hide the fact that socialism has never worked and in those pockets of America that are dominated by liberals, they are always having to take from productive areas in order to prop up their socialist utopias.

The cold, hard, unequivocal fact is that the United States, under the leadership of white Christians, became the greatest nation in the annals of history. Americans, in under 350 years, did more than the Roman Empire did in 1000 years of Roman history. America built the largest armies and navies; we dominated the world with air superiority and sent more soldiers into battle to fight for Liberty than all other nations combined! The same holds true for the numbers of missionaries that have been sent around the globe. The United States dominated that field as well.

It was in the United States that electricity was discovered, the telegraph, telephone, and even the transistor (that ushered in the computer era) were all American inventions. The best colleges and universities where, to this day, people from all over the world want to come to... right here in the good ol' USA. The socialists and communists that dominate the Internet and bitch about America are not packing their bags and leaving for any other place. They live in the United States.

Because we've bastardized our culture, we are slipping into a third world status, but that is due largely to democracy. In our Republic (as guaranteed in the Constitution), we had unalienable Rights... Rights that were ruled by the courts to be "above the law." As such, before "democracy" became the rage, majorities could not dictate what you could and could not believe in; government did not tell business who to hire or not hire; people were free to speak freely without fear of reprisals via mobocracy.

Capitalism is not the culprit. Rather, it is the proliferation of corruption, insanity, immorality, and an assault on traditional values that is to blame. It's not the guy who gives up his nights, weekends, and holidays that is to blame. It is the dope sucking, lazy ass, sorry people that think business owes them a job and that the dredges of society are entitled to live off the sweat and sacrifice of his fellow man that did work in order to have personal wealth who are responsible.

Gun control is popular with those who want to take from the haves and give it to the have nots through the power of government. Tyrants fear resistance. America is failing at the present because neither the left nor the right; conservative or liberal; Democrat or Republican really understand the root of the problem and both sides find themselves going to the same place via different routes.

The few people who do have a handle on what is really going on have availed themselves of their Right to keep and bear Arms. It will do little good to keep posting about the Right and wasting time on social media when we need to be twisting arms in Congress to make good on the guarantee of the Second Amendment and when the after hours and week-ends roll around, those who long for Liberty need to be meeting, face to face in meetings, preparing, networking, and training. James Madison, the author of the Second Amendment nominated Justice Joseph Story to the United States Supreme Court. Presidents nominate people that share their political agenda -they're strange like that (ask Donald Trump.) Anyway, Story let us know what the Second Amendment is all about:

"The militia is the natural defense of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpation of power by rulers. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of the republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally ... enable the people to resist and triumph over them." Joseph Story (1833). “Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States: With a Preliminary Review of the Constitutional History of the Colonies and States, Before the Adoption of the Constitution”, p.746

Capitalism leads to decadence, decay & despair.


- Illegals hired by Capitalists.
- H2B Visas hired by Capitalists.
- Outsourced jobs by Capitalists.
- Automation kicking jobs to the curb by Capitalists.
- Amazon knocking out as much as 1 million retail jobs by Capitalists.
- Processed & Sugary foods causing obesity, and diabetes & heart disease by Capitalists.
- Hollywood smut films
- Gangster rap music by the music industry.
- Porn industry.
- Abortions
-Sex change operations by Hospital Capitalists
-Strip clubs
- Environmental destruction by Capitalists.
- Monopolies which without enough competition act like Communists, cutting corners, creating junky products, and jacking up costs of living.
- Stagnant wages from a lack of Union membership + Outsourced + Mass Immigration.
- The #1 healthcare costs in the World by the United States is Capitalism too.

Yep. It's a lack of education on your part. NONE of the above has any connection to capitalism. You need to be taught Civics 101. According to the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

If America could be summed up in one word by its founders, it would have been Liberty. So, just for practice, you bring up so - called "illegals." What made people "illegal?" According to the United States Constitution:

"Congress shall have the power ...To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization" (Article I Section 8 of the United States Constitution)

Outside of that Congress has no de jure / lawful /constitutional authority to declare anybody "illegal." The registration of human beings helps control people as in a socialist society. You worry about the visas - and only 180,440 were issued in 2017 meanwhile nearly a million new citizens were naturalized. Those "legal" immigrants are way the Hell over-represented in Congress.

In the 116th Congress we had a total of 68 federal legislators that were immigrants or the children of immigrants. Of those 52 are members of the House of Representatives and 16 are U.S. Senators. That is an overall total of 13 percent of all federal legislators and in the U.S. Senate, 16 percent of the Senate is made up of immigrants. Of the 68 total legislators, 57 are Democrats.

In 116th Congress, at least 13% of lawmakers are immigrants or the children of immigrants

You come here with a laundry list of unrelated ills that America suffers, but NONE of it has anything to do with capitalism. In our current Congress, the Senate has 53 Republicans, 45 Democrats and 2 Independents (the Independents caucused with the Democrats.) In the House of Representatives, there are 197 Republicans and 234 Democrats. So, of a total of 531 federal legislators, you have 281 Democrats versus 250 Republicans.

It is the Democrats who are in control; it is the Democrats who tolerate people like Bernie Sanders (a self proclaimed socialist); it is the Democrats who hold enough votes to influence what you claim is capitalist control of America. In fact, the opposite is true. Most Republicans are RINOs. Even Trump was a Democrat until he wanted to be elected to the presidency.

There are no constitutionalists pushing Washington, D.C. back to the America envisioned by the founders / framers. To blame the status quo on capitalists is disingenuous, dishonest, inaccurate and a convenient deflection. Hell, the socialists control the Democrats and have virtually taken the Republican Party over to boot. Even when the socialists hold the balance of power in the United States, they cannot realize their utopia.
 
There is a time for Good Men to STOP sitting on the sidelines.

At some point, defense of Liberty and Constitutional Rights MUST become widespread and the burden carried BY ALL. (Not just those in Virginia)

If those standing up to oppression are put down (because no one went to aid them), then you are next.

PERIOD.

If anyone thinks this will stop in Virginia (the gun confiscation push) you are grossly mistaken.
 
I'm NOT so sure I even support gun rights, anymore.

Its becoming a pretext to a Civil War that helps Russia & China.

Feel free to go to some country that does not guarantee unalienable Rights
Yep, this is not funny at all. This is serious business, like Rep. Matt Shea and his OT bible. They will start the next civil war if we elect a Democrat Potus, the have hundreds of militias throughout the USA.

That would be magnificent

Disarming will lead to a civil war, and so will guns, deporting illegals much more than this will lead to a civil war, and not deporting them will lead to replacement.

I think we're f*cked.

Capitalism won, it destroyed the West.

I've read a number of your posts before trying to figure out how to best respond to you, but what I am seeing from you is a lack of historical knowledge about the United States.

By definition capitalism is an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

Socialists and communists are hard pressed to show us where socialism or communism has ever worked. Then they will claim that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was not socialist; that Russia was never truly communist. They try to make the argument that The National Socialists weren't socialist, etc., etc. It's all a deflection to hide the fact that socialism has never worked and in those pockets of America that are dominated by liberals, they are always having to take from productive areas in order to prop up their socialist utopias.

The cold, hard, unequivocal fact is that the United States, under the leadership of white Christians, became the greatest nation in the annals of history. Americans, in under 350 years, did more than the Roman Empire did in 1000 years of Roman history. America built the largest armies and navies; we dominated the world with air superiority and sent more soldiers into battle to fight for Liberty than all other nations combined! The same holds true for the numbers of missionaries that have been sent around the globe. The United States dominated that field as well.

It was in the United States that electricity was discovered, the telegraph, telephone, and even the transistor (that ushered in the computer era) were all American inventions. The best colleges and universities where, to this day, people from all over the world want to come to... right here in the good ol' USA. The socialists and communists that dominate the Internet and bitch about America are not packing their bags and leaving for any other place. They live in the United States.

Because we've bastardized our culture, we are slipping into a third world status, but that is due largely to democracy. In our Republic (as guaranteed in the Constitution), we had unalienable Rights... Rights that were ruled by the courts to be "above the law." As such, before "democracy" became the rage, majorities could not dictate what you could and could not believe in; government did not tell business who to hire or not hire; people were free to speak freely without fear of reprisals via mobocracy.

Capitalism is not the culprit. Rather, it is the proliferation of corruption, insanity, immorality, and an assault on traditional values that is to blame. It's not the guy who gives up his nights, weekends, and holidays that is to blame. It is the dope sucking, lazy ass, sorry people that think business owes them a job and that the dredges of society are entitled to live off the sweat and sacrifice of his fellow man that did work in order to have personal wealth who are responsible.

Gun control is popular with those who want to take from the haves and give it to the have nots through the power of government. Tyrants fear resistance. America is failing at the present because neither the left nor the right; conservative or liberal; Democrat or Republican really understand the root of the problem and both sides find themselves going to the same place via different routes.

The few people who do have a handle on what is really going on have availed themselves of their Right to keep and bear Arms. It will do little good to keep posting about the Right and wasting time on social media when we need to be twisting arms in Congress to make good on the guarantee of the Second Amendment and when the after hours and week-ends roll around, those who long for Liberty need to be meeting, face to face in meetings, preparing, networking, and training. James Madison, the author of the Second Amendment nominated Justice Joseph Story to the United States Supreme Court. Presidents nominate people that share their political agenda -they're strange like that (ask Donald Trump.) Anyway, Story let us know what the Second Amendment is all about:

"The militia is the natural defense of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpation of power by rulers. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of the republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally ... enable the people to resist and triumph over them." Joseph Story (1833). “Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States: With a Preliminary Review of the Constitutional History of the Colonies and States, Before the Adoption of the Constitution”, p.746

Capitalism leads to decadence, decay & despair.


- Illegals hired by Capitalists.
- H2B Visas hired by Capitalists.
- Outsourced jobs by Capitalists.
- Automation kicking jobs to the curb by Capitalists.
- Amazon knocking out as much as 1 million retail jobs by Capitalists.
- Processed & Sugary foods causing obesity, and diabetes & heart disease by Capitalists.
- Hollywood smut films
- Gangster rap music by the music industry.
- Porn industry.
- Abortions
-Sex change operations by Hospital Capitalists
-Strip clubs
- Environmental destruction by Capitalists.
- Monopolies which without enough competition act like Communists, cutting corners, creating junky products, and jacking up costs of living.
- Stagnant wages from a lack of Union membership + Outsourced + Mass Immigration.
- The #1 healthcare costs in the World by the United States is Capitalism too.

Yep. It's a lack of education on your part. NONE of the above has any connection to capitalism. You need to be taught Civics 101. According to the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

If America could be summed up in one word by its founders, it would have been Liberty. So, just for practice, you bring up so - called "illegals." What made people "illegal?" According to the United States Constitution:

"Congress shall have the power ...To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization" (Article I Section 8 of the United States Constitution)

Outside of that Congress has no de jure / lawful /constitutional authority to declare anybody "illegal." The registration of human beings helps control people as in a socialist society. You worry about the visas - and only 180,440 were issued in 2017 meanwhile nearly a million new citizens were naturalized. Those "legal" immigrants are way the Hell over-represented in Congress.

In the 116th Congress we had a total of 68 federal legislators that were immigrants or the children of immigrants. Of those 52 are members of the House of Representatives and 16 are U.S. Senators. That is an overall total of 13 percent of all federal legislators and in the U.S. Senate, 16 percent of the Senate is made up of immigrants. Of the 68 total legislators, 57 are Democrats.

In 116th Congress, at least 13% of lawmakers are immigrants or the children of immigrants

You come here with a laundry list of unrelated ills that America suffers, but NONE of it has anything to do with capitalism. In our current Congress, the Senate has 53 Republicans, 45 Democrats and 2 Independents (the Independents caucused with the Democrats.) In the House of Representatives, there are 197 Republicans and 234 Democrats. So, of a total of 531 federal legislators, you have 281 Democrats versus 250 Republicans.

It is the Democrats who are in control; it is the Democrats who tolerate people like Bernie Sanders (a self proclaimed socialist); it is the Democrats who hold enough votes to influence what you claim is capitalist control of America. In fact, the opposite is true. Most Republicans are RINOs. Even Trump was a Democrat until he wanted to be elected to the presidency.

There are no constitutionalists pushing Washington, D.C. back to the America envisioned by the founders / framers. To blame the status quo on capitalists is disingenuous, dishonest, inaccurate and a convenient deflection. Hell, the socialists control the Democrats and have virtually taken the Republican Party over to boot. Even when the socialists hold the balance of power in the United States, they cannot realize their utopia.

Capitalism puts greed before nation..

You need to grow a brain.
 
Capitalism puts greed before nation..
You need to grow a brain.

You're looking at it incorrectly.

Capitalism allows the most important HUMAN PATH TO PROGRESS the fertile ground to flourish.......M-O-T-I-V-A-T-I-O-N

Yes, Greed often becomes a dark result of Capitalism.....but the Bright outweighs the Dark. It's a beneficial trade off.
It's like Chemotherapy that saves your life.....an unpleasant side effect....but are you better off without it?

Besides, Greed flourished in the absence of Capitalism just fine.

Without some form of Capitalism, mankind would still be in the stone age.

Socialism and Communism are the antithesis to progress and Capitalism. BOTH of these prevent human progress quite literally. But the harm they do is FAR worse than preventing progress.
 
Feel free to go to some country that does not guarantee unalienable Rights
That would be magnificent

Disarming will lead to a civil war, and so will guns, deporting illegals much more than this will lead to a civil war, and not deporting them will lead to replacement.

I think we're f*cked.

Capitalism won, it destroyed the West.

I've read a number of your posts before trying to figure out how to best respond to you, but what I am seeing from you is a lack of historical knowledge about the United States.

By definition capitalism is an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

Socialists and communists are hard pressed to show us where socialism or communism has ever worked. Then they will claim that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was not socialist; that Russia was never truly communist. They try to make the argument that The National Socialists weren't socialist, etc., etc. It's all a deflection to hide the fact that socialism has never worked and in those pockets of America that are dominated by liberals, they are always having to take from productive areas in order to prop up their socialist utopias.

The cold, hard, unequivocal fact is that the United States, under the leadership of white Christians, became the greatest nation in the annals of history. Americans, in under 350 years, did more than the Roman Empire did in 1000 years of Roman history. America built the largest armies and navies; we dominated the world with air superiority and sent more soldiers into battle to fight for Liberty than all other nations combined! The same holds true for the numbers of missionaries that have been sent around the globe. The United States dominated that field as well.

It was in the United States that electricity was discovered, the telegraph, telephone, and even the transistor (that ushered in the computer era) were all American inventions. The best colleges and universities where, to this day, people from all over the world want to come to... right here in the good ol' USA. The socialists and communists that dominate the Internet and bitch about America are not packing their bags and leaving for any other place. They live in the United States.

Because we've bastardized our culture, we are slipping into a third world status, but that is due largely to democracy. In our Republic (as guaranteed in the Constitution), we had unalienable Rights... Rights that were ruled by the courts to be "above the law." As such, before "democracy" became the rage, majorities could not dictate what you could and could not believe in; government did not tell business who to hire or not hire; people were free to speak freely without fear of reprisals via mobocracy.

Capitalism is not the culprit. Rather, it is the proliferation of corruption, insanity, immorality, and an assault on traditional values that is to blame. It's not the guy who gives up his nights, weekends, and holidays that is to blame. It is the dope sucking, lazy ass, sorry people that think business owes them a job and that the dredges of society are entitled to live off the sweat and sacrifice of his fellow man that did work in order to have personal wealth who are responsible.

Gun control is popular with those who want to take from the haves and give it to the have nots through the power of government. Tyrants fear resistance. America is failing at the present because neither the left nor the right; conservative or liberal; Democrat or Republican really understand the root of the problem and both sides find themselves going to the same place via different routes.

The few people who do have a handle on what is really going on have availed themselves of their Right to keep and bear Arms. It will do little good to keep posting about the Right and wasting time on social media when we need to be twisting arms in Congress to make good on the guarantee of the Second Amendment and when the after hours and week-ends roll around, those who long for Liberty need to be meeting, face to face in meetings, preparing, networking, and training. James Madison, the author of the Second Amendment nominated Justice Joseph Story to the United States Supreme Court. Presidents nominate people that share their political agenda -they're strange like that (ask Donald Trump.) Anyway, Story let us know what the Second Amendment is all about:

"The militia is the natural defense of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpation of power by rulers. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of the republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally ... enable the people to resist and triumph over them." Joseph Story (1833). “Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States: With a Preliminary Review of the Constitutional History of the Colonies and States, Before the Adoption of the Constitution”, p.746

Capitalism leads to decadence, decay & despair.


- Illegals hired by Capitalists.
- H2B Visas hired by Capitalists.
- Outsourced jobs by Capitalists.
- Automation kicking jobs to the curb by Capitalists.
- Amazon knocking out as much as 1 million retail jobs by Capitalists.
- Processed & Sugary foods causing obesity, and diabetes & heart disease by Capitalists.
- Hollywood smut films
- Gangster rap music by the music industry.
- Porn industry.
- Abortions
-Sex change operations by Hospital Capitalists
-Strip clubs
- Environmental destruction by Capitalists.
- Monopolies which without enough competition act like Communists, cutting corners, creating junky products, and jacking up costs of living.
- Stagnant wages from a lack of Union membership + Outsourced + Mass Immigration.
- The #1 healthcare costs in the World by the United States is Capitalism too.

Yep. It's a lack of education on your part. NONE of the above has any connection to capitalism. You need to be taught Civics 101. According to the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

If America could be summed up in one word by its founders, it would have been Liberty. So, just for practice, you bring up so - called "illegals." What made people "illegal?" According to the United States Constitution:

"Congress shall have the power ...To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization" (Article I Section 8 of the United States Constitution)

Outside of that Congress has no de jure / lawful /constitutional authority to declare anybody "illegal." The registration of human beings helps control people as in a socialist society. You worry about the visas - and only 180,440 were issued in 2017 meanwhile nearly a million new citizens were naturalized. Those "legal" immigrants are way the Hell over-represented in Congress.

In the 116th Congress we had a total of 68 federal legislators that were immigrants or the children of immigrants. Of those 52 are members of the House of Representatives and 16 are U.S. Senators. That is an overall total of 13 percent of all federal legislators and in the U.S. Senate, 16 percent of the Senate is made up of immigrants. Of the 68 total legislators, 57 are Democrats.

In 116th Congress, at least 13% of lawmakers are immigrants or the children of immigrants

You come here with a laundry list of unrelated ills that America suffers, but NONE of it has anything to do with capitalism. In our current Congress, the Senate has 53 Republicans, 45 Democrats and 2 Independents (the Independents caucused with the Democrats.) In the House of Representatives, there are 197 Republicans and 234 Democrats. So, of a total of 531 federal legislators, you have 281 Democrats versus 250 Republicans.

It is the Democrats who are in control; it is the Democrats who tolerate people like Bernie Sanders (a self proclaimed socialist); it is the Democrats who hold enough votes to influence what you claim is capitalist control of America. In fact, the opposite is true. Most Republicans are RINOs. Even Trump was a Democrat until he wanted to be elected to the presidency.

There are no constitutionalists pushing Washington, D.C. back to the America envisioned by the founders / framers. To blame the status quo on capitalists is disingenuous, dishonest, inaccurate and a convenient deflection. Hell, the socialists control the Democrats and have virtually taken the Republican Party over to boot. Even when the socialists hold the balance of power in the United States, they cannot realize their utopia.

Capitalism puts greed before nation..

You need to grow a brain.

If you have a brain, you should start using it. Insults are initiated by people, like yourself who cannot engage in civil conversation because you realize you're defeated.

You blame capitalism for every ill in America; however, rather than to move to some socialist utopia, you stay in America. That says more than all the paragraphs I can post on this board. Socialism destroys the mechanisms necessary to encourage people to do their best and become independent, self sufficient, and self reliant. It destroys the incentive for people to invent things, seek out solutions, and be productive. In short, socialism rewards the laziest by allowing them to live off the hard work of their fellow man.
 
If you have a brain, you should start using it. Insults are initiated by people, like yourself who cannot engage in civil conversation because you realize you're defeated.

You blame capitalism for every ill in America; however, rather than to move to some socialist utopia, you stay in America. That says more than all the paragraphs I can post on this board. Socialism destroys the mechanisms necessary to encourage people to do their best and become independent, self sufficient, and self reliant. It destroys the incentive for people to invent things, seek out solutions, and be productive. In short, socialism rewards the laziest by allowing them to live off the hard work of their fellow man.

And if you spent the rest of your life, and repeated that 50,000 times....you would not budge his belief 1 millimeter.
You'd be FAR better off in the long run if you planned to spend just a tiny fraction of that same time going to Virginia to help Patriots protect their Constitutional Rights.

Barring a paradigm shift or an epiphany, he will die fighting for Communism and fascism.
 
If you have a brain, you should start using it. Insults are initiated by people, like yourself who cannot engage in civil conversation because you realize you're defeated.

You blame capitalism for every ill in America; however, rather than to move to some socialist utopia, you stay in America. That says more than all the paragraphs I can post on this board. Socialism destroys the mechanisms necessary to encourage people to do their best and become independent, self sufficient, and self reliant. It destroys the incentive for people to invent things, seek out solutions, and be productive. In short, socialism rewards the laziest by allowing them to live off the hard work of their fellow man.

And if you spent the rest of your life, and repeated that 50,000 times....you would not budge his belief 1 millimeter.
You'd be FAR better off in the long run if you planned to spend just a tiny fraction of that same time going to Virginia to help Patriots protect their Constitutional Rights.

Barring a paradigm shift or an epiphany, he will die fighting for Communism and fascism.

Honestly, the only contacts I have for Virginia civilian militias are saying they don't intend to participate in any activity. If some militia or other pro-gun group is asking people to come, if they let me know the when and where I will set aside the time and make the trip. Although I'm in Georgia, it would be worth time and expense. But, I just cannot go and impose myself in another state's affairs. Someone from Virginia must be seeking help before I can intervene. I'll be more than willing if you know of a citizens militia or some other group planning a protest and requesting the militia members from the several states.
 
Disarming will lead to a civil war, and so will guns, deporting illegals much more than this will lead to a civil war, and not deporting them will lead to replacement.

I think we're f*cked.

Capitalism won, it destroyed the West.

I've read a number of your posts before trying to figure out how to best respond to you, but what I am seeing from you is a lack of historical knowledge about the United States.

By definition capitalism is an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

Socialists and communists are hard pressed to show us where socialism or communism has ever worked. Then they will claim that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was not socialist; that Russia was never truly communist. They try to make the argument that The National Socialists weren't socialist, etc., etc. It's all a deflection to hide the fact that socialism has never worked and in those pockets of America that are dominated by liberals, they are always having to take from productive areas in order to prop up their socialist utopias.

The cold, hard, unequivocal fact is that the United States, under the leadership of white Christians, became the greatest nation in the annals of history. Americans, in under 350 years, did more than the Roman Empire did in 1000 years of Roman history. America built the largest armies and navies; we dominated the world with air superiority and sent more soldiers into battle to fight for Liberty than all other nations combined! The same holds true for the numbers of missionaries that have been sent around the globe. The United States dominated that field as well.

It was in the United States that electricity was discovered, the telegraph, telephone, and even the transistor (that ushered in the computer era) were all American inventions. The best colleges and universities where, to this day, people from all over the world want to come to... right here in the good ol' USA. The socialists and communists that dominate the Internet and bitch about America are not packing their bags and leaving for any other place. They live in the United States.

Because we've bastardized our culture, we are slipping into a third world status, but that is due largely to democracy. In our Republic (as guaranteed in the Constitution), we had unalienable Rights... Rights that were ruled by the courts to be "above the law." As such, before "democracy" became the rage, majorities could not dictate what you could and could not believe in; government did not tell business who to hire or not hire; people were free to speak freely without fear of reprisals via mobocracy.

Capitalism is not the culprit. Rather, it is the proliferation of corruption, insanity, immorality, and an assault on traditional values that is to blame. It's not the guy who gives up his nights, weekends, and holidays that is to blame. It is the dope sucking, lazy ass, sorry people that think business owes them a job and that the dredges of society are entitled to live off the sweat and sacrifice of his fellow man that did work in order to have personal wealth who are responsible.

Gun control is popular with those who want to take from the haves and give it to the have nots through the power of government. Tyrants fear resistance. America is failing at the present because neither the left nor the right; conservative or liberal; Democrat or Republican really understand the root of the problem and both sides find themselves going to the same place via different routes.

The few people who do have a handle on what is really going on have availed themselves of their Right to keep and bear Arms. It will do little good to keep posting about the Right and wasting time on social media when we need to be twisting arms in Congress to make good on the guarantee of the Second Amendment and when the after hours and week-ends roll around, those who long for Liberty need to be meeting, face to face in meetings, preparing, networking, and training. James Madison, the author of the Second Amendment nominated Justice Joseph Story to the United States Supreme Court. Presidents nominate people that share their political agenda -they're strange like that (ask Donald Trump.) Anyway, Story let us know what the Second Amendment is all about:

"The militia is the natural defense of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpation of power by rulers. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of the republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally ... enable the people to resist and triumph over them." Joseph Story (1833). “Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States: With a Preliminary Review of the Constitutional History of the Colonies and States, Before the Adoption of the Constitution”, p.746

Capitalism leads to decadence, decay & despair.


- Illegals hired by Capitalists.
- H2B Visas hired by Capitalists.
- Outsourced jobs by Capitalists.
- Automation kicking jobs to the curb by Capitalists.
- Amazon knocking out as much as 1 million retail jobs by Capitalists.
- Processed & Sugary foods causing obesity, and diabetes & heart disease by Capitalists.
- Hollywood smut films
- Gangster rap music by the music industry.
- Porn industry.
- Abortions
-Sex change operations by Hospital Capitalists
-Strip clubs
- Environmental destruction by Capitalists.
- Monopolies which without enough competition act like Communists, cutting corners, creating junky products, and jacking up costs of living.
- Stagnant wages from a lack of Union membership + Outsourced + Mass Immigration.
- The #1 healthcare costs in the World by the United States is Capitalism too.

Yep. It's a lack of education on your part. NONE of the above has any connection to capitalism. You need to be taught Civics 101. According to the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

If America could be summed up in one word by its founders, it would have been Liberty. So, just for practice, you bring up so - called "illegals." What made people "illegal?" According to the United States Constitution:

"Congress shall have the power ...To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization" (Article I Section 8 of the United States Constitution)

Outside of that Congress has no de jure / lawful /constitutional authority to declare anybody "illegal." The registration of human beings helps control people as in a socialist society. You worry about the visas - and only 180,440 were issued in 2017 meanwhile nearly a million new citizens were naturalized. Those "legal" immigrants are way the Hell over-represented in Congress.

In the 116th Congress we had a total of 68 federal legislators that were immigrants or the children of immigrants. Of those 52 are members of the House of Representatives and 16 are U.S. Senators. That is an overall total of 13 percent of all federal legislators and in the U.S. Senate, 16 percent of the Senate is made up of immigrants. Of the 68 total legislators, 57 are Democrats.

In 116th Congress, at least 13% of lawmakers are immigrants or the children of immigrants

You come here with a laundry list of unrelated ills that America suffers, but NONE of it has anything to do with capitalism. In our current Congress, the Senate has 53 Republicans, 45 Democrats and 2 Independents (the Independents caucused with the Democrats.) In the House of Representatives, there are 197 Republicans and 234 Democrats. So, of a total of 531 federal legislators, you have 281 Democrats versus 250 Republicans.

It is the Democrats who are in control; it is the Democrats who tolerate people like Bernie Sanders (a self proclaimed socialist); it is the Democrats who hold enough votes to influence what you claim is capitalist control of America. In fact, the opposite is true. Most Republicans are RINOs. Even Trump was a Democrat until he wanted to be elected to the presidency.

There are no constitutionalists pushing Washington, D.C. back to the America envisioned by the founders / framers. To blame the status quo on capitalists is disingenuous, dishonest, inaccurate and a convenient deflection. Hell, the socialists control the Democrats and have virtually taken the Republican Party over to boot. Even when the socialists hold the balance of power in the United States, they cannot realize their utopia.

Capitalism puts greed before nation..

You need to grow a brain.

If you have a brain, you should start using it. Insults are initiated by people, like yourself who cannot engage in civil conversation because you realize you're defeated.

You blame capitalism for every ill in America; however, rather than to move to some socialist utopia, you stay in America. That says more than all the paragraphs I can post on this board. Socialism destroys the mechanisms necessary to encourage people to do their best and become independent, self sufficient, and self reliant. It destroys the incentive for people to invent things, seek out solutions, and be productive. In short, socialism rewards the laziest by allowing them to live off the hard work of their fellow man.

Oh because you weren't initiating insults in saying I need an education?

YOU need an education.

Every single economic champion growth period came from Hybrid systems of Socialism, or Fascism.

No, Inventions are encouraged by Socialism.

Nazis had better tech than the USA or anyone else had.

The Soviet Union had the most patents in the 1980's of any country on Earth.
That drastically fell when Russia switched to Capitalism.

Soviets beat us to satellites, putting a man into space, space stations etc.

Even if the USA put a man on the Moon, it was largely invested by the Feds & Nazi member Wernher Von Braun being the most responsible.

But, that's besides the point.

The point is Capitalism also leads to decay & despair.

Real wages have stagnated & or even fallen since 1970, which is surprising with all the Capitalists outsourcing, hiring immigrants, and unions falling.

Monopolies behave just like Communism, they cut corners, create junky products & jack up costs of living.

But, one thing is true decadence is very prevalent in Capitalist countries, because of the profit over nation mentality.
 
Capitalism puts greed before nation..
You need to grow a brain.

You're looking at it incorrectly.

Capitalism allows the most important HUMAN PATH TO PROGRESS the fertile ground to flourish.......M-O-T-I-V-A-T-I-O-N

Yes, Greed often becomes a dark result of Capitalism.....but the Bright outweighs the Dark. It's a beneficial trade off.
It's like Chemotherapy that saves your life.....an unpleasant side effect....but are you better off without it?

Besides, Greed flourished in the absence of Capitalism just fine.

Without some form of Capitalism, mankind would still be in the stone age.

Socialism and Communism are the antithesis to progress and Capitalism. BOTH of these prevent human progress quite literally. But the harm they do is FAR worse than preventing progress.

Actually, Socialism has the best economic growth record, rather than Capitalism, or Communism.

Capitalism is leading to decade after decade of economic stagnation in the USA, kind of like Communism decade after decade of economic stagnation in the Soviet Union.

The big issue is that Capitalism leads to more degeneracy, and decadence than does Communism.
 
Every single economic champion growth period came from Hybrid systems of Socialism, or Fascism.
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Sorry - had to stop reading here.
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Brits tend to be a very ignorant, and arrogant race.

#1 economic growth period in the USA in the 20th century was FDR, basically hybrid Socialism or Fascism lite.

The Best And Worst US Presidents For GDP Growth


Hitler & Mussolini did even better than that.


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Franco achieved #1 economic growth in 20th century Europe using Fascistic Socialism.

Spanish miracle - Wikipedia

A monument in Fuengirola,Spain for the SEAT 600, the car symbol of the Spanish miracle[3]
The rapid economic expansion reinvigorated old industrial areas: the Basque Country and Ferrol northern coast (iron and steel, shipbuilding), in and around Barcelona (machinery, textiles, cars and petrochemicals) it also drove an enormous expansion in refining, petrochemicals, chemicals and engineering. To help achieve rapid development, there was massive government investment through key state owned companies like the national industrial conglomerate Instituto Nacional de Industria, the mass market car company SEAT in Barcelona, the big steel plant of Ensidesa in Avilés and the shipbuilder Empresa Nacional Bazán. With heavy protection from foreign competition within the domestic Spanish market, these companies led the industrialisation of the country, restoring the prosperity of industrial areas like Barcelona and Bilbao and creating new industrial areas, most notably around Madrid. Although there was economic liberalisation in the period, key enterprises remained under state control.




Japan achieved #1 economic growth in the 20th century World using Socialism.

Japanese economic miracle - Wikipedia

Governmental contributions[edit]
The Japanese financial recovery continued even after SCAP departed and the economic boom propelled by the Korean War abated. The Japanese economy survived from the deep recession caused by a loss of the U.S. payments for military procurement and continued to make gains. By the late 1960s, Japan had risen from the ashes of World War II to achieve an astoundingly rapid and complete economic recovery. According to Knox College Professor Mikiso Hane, the period leading up to the late 1960s saw "the greatest years of prosperity Japan had seen since the Sun Goddess shut herself up behind a stone door to protest her brother Susano-o's misbehavior." The Japanese government contributed to the post-war Japanese economic miracle by stimulating private sector growth, first by instituting regulations and protectionism that effectively managed economic crises and later by concentrating on trade expansion.[2]

Influence of governmental policies: Ikeda administration and keiretsu[edit]
In 1954, the economic system MITI had cultivated from 1949 to 1953 came into full effect. Prime Minister Hayato Ikeda, who Johnson[who?] calls "the single most important individual architect of the Japanese economic miracle," pursued a policy of heavy industrialization.[citation needed] This policy led to the emergence of 'over-loaning' (a practice that continues today) in which the Bank of Japan issues loans to city banks who in turn issue loans to industrial conglomerates. Since there was a shortage of capital in Japan at the time, industrial conglomerates borrowed beyond their capacity to repay, often beyond their net worth, causing city banks in turn to over-borrow from the Bank of Japan. This gave the national Bank of Japan complete control over dependent local banks.

The system of over-loaning, combined with the government's relaxation of anti-monopoly laws (a remnant of SCAP control) also led to the re-emergence of conglomerate groups called keiretsu that mirrored the wartime conglomerates, or zaibatsu. Led by the economic improvements of Sony businessmen Masaru Ibuka and Akio Morita, the keiretsu efficiently allocated resources and became competitive internationally.[14]

At the heart of the keiretsu conglomerates' success lay city banks, which lent generously, formalizing cross-share holdings in diverse industries. The keiretsu spurred both horizontal and vertical integration, locking out foreign companies from Japanese industries. Keiretsu had close relations with MITI and each other through the cross-placement of shares, providing protection from foreign take-overs. For example, 83% of Japan's Development Bank's finances went toward strategic industries: shipbuilding, electric power, coal and steel production.[15] Keiretsu proved crucial to protectionist measures that shielded Japan's sapling economy.

Keiretsu also fostered an attitude shift among Japanese managers that tolerated low profits in the short-run because keiretsu were less concerned with increasing stock dividends and profits and more concerned about interest payments. Approximately only two-thirds of the shares of a given company were traded, cushioning keiretsu against market fluctuations and allowing keiretsu managers to plan for the long-term and maximize market shares instead of focusing on short-term profits.

The Ikeda administration also instituted the Foreign Exchange Allocation Policy, a system of import controls designed to prevent the flooding of Japan's markets by foreign goods. MITI used the foreign exchange allocation to stimulate the economy by promoting exports, managing investment and monitoring production capacity. In 1953, MITIs revised the Foreign Exchange Allocation Policy to promote domestic industries and increase the incentive for exports by revising the export-link system. A later revision based production capacity on foreign exchange allocation to prevent foreign dumping.
 
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Every single economic champion growth period came from Hybrid systems of Socialism, or Fascism.
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Sorry - had to stop reading here.
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Brits tend to be a very ignorant, and arrogant race.
Not sure how this is relevant, but OK...
#1 economic growth period in the USA was FDR, basically hybrd Socialism or Fascism lite.
Socialism cannot exist without the wealth generated by capitalism to pay the bills.
Everything you have is because of capitalism, and the political freedoms that underpin it.
 
Every single economic champion growth period came from Hybrid systems of Socialism, or Fascism.
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Sorry - had to stop reading here.
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Brits tend to be a very ignorant, and arrogant race.
Not sure how this is relevant, but OK...
#1 economic growth period in the USA was FDR, basically hybrd Socialism or Fascism lite.
Socialism cannot exist without the wealth generated by capitalism to pay the bills.
Everything you have is because of capitalism, and the political freedoms that underpin it.

Hybrid Socialism clearly has better champion growth records than Capitalism.

Yeah, all the garbage we have is from Capitalism & Individualist freedom.
Illegals
H2B Visa immigrants.
Outsourced jobs.
Porn
Hollywood smut
Strip clubs
Abortion.
Facebook censorship of the Right wing.
MSNBC Liberal biases.
CNN Liberal biases.
 
Every single economic champion growth period came from Hybrid systems of Socialism, or Fascism.
:21:
Sorry - had to stop reading here.
:21:
Brits tend to be a very ignorant, and arrogant race.
Not sure how this is relevant, but OK...
#1 economic growth period in the USA was FDR, basically hybrd Socialism or Fascism lite.
Socialism cannot exist without the wealth generated by capitalism to pay the bills.
Everything you have is because of capitalism, and the political freedoms that underpin it.
Hybrid Socialism clearly has better champion growth records than Capitalism.
English isn't your first language, is it, Comrade?
 
I've read a number of your posts before trying to figure out how to best respond to you, but what I am seeing from you is a lack of historical knowledge about the United States.

By definition capitalism is an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

Socialists and communists are hard pressed to show us where socialism or communism has ever worked. Then they will claim that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was not socialist; that Russia was never truly communist. They try to make the argument that The National Socialists weren't socialist, etc., etc. It's all a deflection to hide the fact that socialism has never worked and in those pockets of America that are dominated by liberals, they are always having to take from productive areas in order to prop up their socialist utopias.

The cold, hard, unequivocal fact is that the United States, under the leadership of white Christians, became the greatest nation in the annals of history. Americans, in under 350 years, did more than the Roman Empire did in 1000 years of Roman history. America built the largest armies and navies; we dominated the world with air superiority and sent more soldiers into battle to fight for Liberty than all other nations combined! The same holds true for the numbers of missionaries that have been sent around the globe. The United States dominated that field as well.

It was in the United States that electricity was discovered, the telegraph, telephone, and even the transistor (that ushered in the computer era) were all American inventions. The best colleges and universities where, to this day, people from all over the world want to come to... right here in the good ol' USA. The socialists and communists that dominate the Internet and bitch about America are not packing their bags and leaving for any other place. They live in the United States.

Because we've bastardized our culture, we are slipping into a third world status, but that is due largely to democracy. In our Republic (as guaranteed in the Constitution), we had unalienable Rights... Rights that were ruled by the courts to be "above the law." As such, before "democracy" became the rage, majorities could not dictate what you could and could not believe in; government did not tell business who to hire or not hire; people were free to speak freely without fear of reprisals via mobocracy.

Capitalism is not the culprit. Rather, it is the proliferation of corruption, insanity, immorality, and an assault on traditional values that is to blame. It's not the guy who gives up his nights, weekends, and holidays that is to blame. It is the dope sucking, lazy ass, sorry people that think business owes them a job and that the dredges of society are entitled to live off the sweat and sacrifice of his fellow man that did work in order to have personal wealth who are responsible.

Gun control is popular with those who want to take from the haves and give it to the have nots through the power of government. Tyrants fear resistance. America is failing at the present because neither the left nor the right; conservative or liberal; Democrat or Republican really understand the root of the problem and both sides find themselves going to the same place via different routes.

The few people who do have a handle on what is really going on have availed themselves of their Right to keep and bear Arms. It will do little good to keep posting about the Right and wasting time on social media when we need to be twisting arms in Congress to make good on the guarantee of the Second Amendment and when the after hours and week-ends roll around, those who long for Liberty need to be meeting, face to face in meetings, preparing, networking, and training. James Madison, the author of the Second Amendment nominated Justice Joseph Story to the United States Supreme Court. Presidents nominate people that share their political agenda -they're strange like that (ask Donald Trump.) Anyway, Story let us know what the Second Amendment is all about:

"The militia is the natural defense of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpation of power by rulers. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of the republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally ... enable the people to resist and triumph over them." Joseph Story (1833). “Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States: With a Preliminary Review of the Constitutional History of the Colonies and States, Before the Adoption of the Constitution”, p.746

Capitalism leads to decadence, decay & despair.


- Illegals hired by Capitalists.
- H2B Visas hired by Capitalists.
- Outsourced jobs by Capitalists.
- Automation kicking jobs to the curb by Capitalists.
- Amazon knocking out as much as 1 million retail jobs by Capitalists.
- Processed & Sugary foods causing obesity, and diabetes & heart disease by Capitalists.
- Hollywood smut films
- Gangster rap music by the music industry.
- Porn industry.
- Abortions
-Sex change operations by Hospital Capitalists
-Strip clubs
- Environmental destruction by Capitalists.
- Monopolies which without enough competition act like Communists, cutting corners, creating junky products, and jacking up costs of living.
- Stagnant wages from a lack of Union membership + Outsourced + Mass Immigration.
- The #1 healthcare costs in the World by the United States is Capitalism too.

Yep. It's a lack of education on your part. NONE of the above has any connection to capitalism. You need to be taught Civics 101. According to the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

If America could be summed up in one word by its founders, it would have been Liberty. So, just for practice, you bring up so - called "illegals." What made people "illegal?" According to the United States Constitution:

"Congress shall have the power ...To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization" (Article I Section 8 of the United States Constitution)

Outside of that Congress has no de jure / lawful /constitutional authority to declare anybody "illegal." The registration of human beings helps control people as in a socialist society. You worry about the visas - and only 180,440 were issued in 2017 meanwhile nearly a million new citizens were naturalized. Those "legal" immigrants are way the Hell over-represented in Congress.

In the 116th Congress we had a total of 68 federal legislators that were immigrants or the children of immigrants. Of those 52 are members of the House of Representatives and 16 are U.S. Senators. That is an overall total of 13 percent of all federal legislators and in the U.S. Senate, 16 percent of the Senate is made up of immigrants. Of the 68 total legislators, 57 are Democrats.

In 116th Congress, at least 13% of lawmakers are immigrants or the children of immigrants

You come here with a laundry list of unrelated ills that America suffers, but NONE of it has anything to do with capitalism. In our current Congress, the Senate has 53 Republicans, 45 Democrats and 2 Independents (the Independents caucused with the Democrats.) In the House of Representatives, there are 197 Republicans and 234 Democrats. So, of a total of 531 federal legislators, you have 281 Democrats versus 250 Republicans.

It is the Democrats who are in control; it is the Democrats who tolerate people like Bernie Sanders (a self proclaimed socialist); it is the Democrats who hold enough votes to influence what you claim is capitalist control of America. In fact, the opposite is true. Most Republicans are RINOs. Even Trump was a Democrat until he wanted to be elected to the presidency.

There are no constitutionalists pushing Washington, D.C. back to the America envisioned by the founders / framers. To blame the status quo on capitalists is disingenuous, dishonest, inaccurate and a convenient deflection. Hell, the socialists control the Democrats and have virtually taken the Republican Party over to boot. Even when the socialists hold the balance of power in the United States, they cannot realize their utopia.

Capitalism puts greed before nation..

You need to grow a brain.

If you have a brain, you should start using it. Insults are initiated by people, like yourself who cannot engage in civil conversation because you realize you're defeated.

You blame capitalism for every ill in America; however, rather than to move to some socialist utopia, you stay in America. That says more than all the paragraphs I can post on this board. Socialism destroys the mechanisms necessary to encourage people to do their best and become independent, self sufficient, and self reliant. It destroys the incentive for people to invent things, seek out solutions, and be productive. In short, socialism rewards the laziest by allowing them to live off the hard work of their fellow man.

Oh because you weren't initiating insults in saying I need an education?

YOU need an education.

Every single economic champion growth period came from Hybrid systems of Socialism, or Fascism.

No, Inventions are encouraged by Socialism.

Nazis had better tech than the USA or anyone else had.

The Soviet Union had the most patents in the 1980's of any country on Earth.
That drastically fell when Russia switched to Capitalism.

Soviets beat us to satellites, putting a man into space, space stations etc.

Even if the USA put a man on the Moon, it was largely invested by the Feds & Nazi member Wernher Von Braun being the most responsible.

But, that's besides the point.

The point is Capitalism also leads to decay & despair.

Real wages have stagnated & or even fallen since 1970, which is surprising with all the Capitalists outsourcing, hiring immigrants, and unions falling.

Monopolies behave just like Communism, they cut corners, create junky products & jack up costs of living.

But, one thing is true decadence is very prevalent in Capitalist countries, because of the profit over nation mentality.

It's strange. I'm debating a socialist on another board that claims National Socialism is not socialism; that socialism was never allowed to be fully implemented - and if anyone needs educating, it is YOU.

There isn't much point in arguing with you. At best, you have a high school education - and that's questionable. NONE of what you said is remotely true. One good example is that Russia is far better off, financially, than they were in the 1980s when communism began to fall. Socialism did even last a century in the Soviet Union. America is 231 years old.

If you believed the snake oil you peddle, your dumb ass would be in some socialist shithole thinking how great it is. Instead you have your dumb ass parked where living is good. That is all everybody here needs to know.
 
A bunch of grown men playing soldier. How pathetic.
Thats all the Minutemen were - citizen soldiers

Which was before the government had the opportunity to set up official forces. The Minutemen are now the National Guard.
The Minutemen were British subjects just like the militia are US citizens

I hope we dont have another Lexington or Concorde

But the people will stand for only so much of leftwing government oppression

How much leftwing government oppression will the people stand for?
Lets hope we never find out

Actually, we would like to know what the people will put up with. I mean, communistic water companies today, and reeducation centers in the future? Inquiring minds want to know...
 

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