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Matt Gaetz says gun are not hunting , their to take down the government.

“The Second Amendment – this is a little history lesson for all the fake news media. The Second Amendment is not about, it’s not about hunting, it’s not about recreation, it’s not about sports,” the 39-year-old went on. “The Second Amendment is about maintaining, within the citizenry, the ability to maintain an armed rebellion against the government if that becomes necessary. I hope it never does, but it sure is important to recognize the founding principles of this nation, and to make sure that they are fully understood.”

Do you agree with him?

Next thing they be rounding up all Democrats and put them in concentration camps.
Yes, Matt is so right, the way this fucked up government is acting, the concerned citizens need to be ready for the take over of this country by the Socialists.


Matt Gaetz says gun are not hunting , their to take down the government.​

Matt Gaetz says guns are not for hunting, they are to take down the government. Did that help you move a little closer to a higher education?

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This is a lie.

Jefferson never said this.


But he did say this:

He also said this, at no time when he was president did the have a military like today, they had militia and wanted to make sure men was entitled to arm themselves.
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First Army was established on 10 August 1918 as a field army when sufficient American military manpower had arrived in France during World War I.



That's nice.

When was the Navy, or Marines, created in the US?


I seem to remember celebrating the Navys 200th Birthday about 35 years ago.

Marines about the same time.


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That poor nit-wit doesn't know that 'First Army' is the Division name, and not because it was the first Army.

Like the ...
First Infantry Division ... The Big Red 1
First Armored Division ... Old Ironsides
Second Armored Division ... Hell On Wheels

And so on ... The First Army was simply the first US Army Division in the European Theater.

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Was made up of militia men, the military and the militias are different today.
 
Gaetz is of course wrong.

The Second Amendment ‘is about’ the individual right to possess a firearm pursuant to lawful self-defense, unconnected with militia service – not to engage in unlawful rebellion against a constitutionally elected government representing the will of the people incorrectly and subjectively perceived to have become ‘tyrannical.’
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Incorrect ... It doesn't say anything about lawful self-defense, but does mention the Defense of a Free State.
It doesn't say or mean what you want it to ... And pretending it does won't change that.

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Who decides whether the militias fight the military??

The militias make that decision.

This has previously been explained to you...

The militias make the decision. Well I finally got an answer. The militias are basically white men and conservative.

You got your answer a few posts ago.

As for your assertion that militias are basically white conservative men, you're wrong. The militia is made up of those who would refuse to live under a tyrannical government.

If only conservative white guys refuse to live under a tyrannical government, then there's a serious problem, and that problem isn't white conservative men...
yes white conservative men and women.
 
So conservative white men will make the decision if they fight the military.

Most of the cops and most of the ex military white men joined the ranks of militias

so where does that leave the democrats. Locked up in concentration camps and you have to do what the republicans say, 1 party abounds the rule of law, everything for the republicans and its like that now,

except Joe Biden was elected Potus, and tramp and the cult member are fighting for him.

I have to be honest here, I don't know that I've ever encountered a level of ignorance which could challenge yours. Your stupidity shines with the light of a thousand suns.

No one is keeping democrats from fighting a tyrannical government. However, since democrats are usually very anti-2nd Amendment, it's fair to conclude that democrats would welcome being dictated to by a tyrannical government, since they're so dead set against the means to combat it.

You seem to have a real stick up your ass about conservative white guys, wanting to convey the message that they're bad, yet I would be remiss if I didn't point out that YOU brought up putting democrats into concentration camps. No conservative white guy did that: YOU did that...
 
Who decides whether the militias fight the military??
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Whoever shoots first ... :auiqs.jpg:

Nah, seriously ... You are trying to apply a course of action that will not be decided until it happens.
Militias and the Military can work together or separately.

I think what you want to know (I could be wrong), is more likely who gets to tell who what to do.
That depends on what both the Militia and the Military want to do

If the Military and the Militia are opposed to each other ...
The person who shoots first is going to decide that one.

Kind of like Lexington, Kentucky and 'The Shot Heard Round the World'.

When the British Regular Military confronted the Acton Company (Minutemen Militia).
The British shot first killing Isaac Davis and Abner Hosmer
and the Militia fired back killing three British Regulars.

The British were on their way to confiscate guns and powder in Concord when it happened,
and the American Revolution was started.

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Gaetz is of course wrong.

The Second Amendment ‘is about’ the individual right to possess a firearm pursuant to lawful self-defense, unconnected with militia service – not to engage in unlawful rebellion against a constitutionally elected government representing the will of the people incorrectly and subjectively perceived to have become ‘tyrannical.’
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Incorrect ... It doesn't say anything about lawful self-defense, but does mention the Defense of a Free State.
It doesn't say or mean what you want it to ... And pretending it does won't change that.

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Who decides whether the militias fight the military??

The militias make that decision.

This has previously been explained to you...

The militias make the decision. Well I finally got an answer. The militias are basically white men and conservative.

You got your answer a few posts ago.

As for your assertion that militias are basically white conservative men, you're wrong. The militia is made up of those who would refuse to live under a tyrannical government.

If only conservative white guys refuse to live under a tyrannical government, then there's a serious problem, and that problem isn't white conservative men...
yes white conservative men and women.

No, dummy, that's NOT the problem.

The problem is that pussies like you are willing to allow your government to do with you as they wish. You lack the fortitude to fight for what's right. You'll bend over and take a stiff one up the ass before you stand in defiance of a tyrannical government, which is exactly why the 2nd Amendment exists. No one is asking that you pretend to be brave. Just stay the fuck out of the way when the shooting starts.

Your problem is that you'd rather live as a subject than as a citizen. You don't want to be governed, you want to be ruled.

Good luck with that...
 
Yes, Matt is so right, the way this fucked up government is acting, the concerned citizens need to be ready for the take over of this country by the Socialists.
Ya mean like Jan 6...

Oh...


You mean when Trump supporters wandered the halls of the Capitol, took selfies and talked to the cops....while Antifa and blm violently attacked the cops and vandalized the building?

These were the Trump supporters.....caught on camera....


“Some say the riots were caused by antifa. There is absolutely no evidence of that,” McCarthy said. “Conservatives should be the first to say so.”

Even McCarthy said so.




We were also told that the Capitol police officer was beaten to death by Trump supporters with a fire extinguisher.......he believed the information on that too.....until the 2nd impeachment was over and they then told the truth....

Just like the lie about the death of the police officer, I am telling you now, we are eventually going to find out that the violent attackers at the Capitol were antifa and blm hiding among the Trump crowd......the democrats are hiding that fact....

The man has a stroke after the capital Jan 6th insurrection by the right wing violent crowd.



Yeah....he had a stroke.....like millions of other Americans....and?
 
“The Second Amendment – this is a little history lesson for all the fake news media. The Second Amendment is not about, it’s not about hunting, it’s not about recreation, it’s not about sports,” the 39-year-old went on. “The Second Amendment is about maintaining, within the citizenry, the ability to maintain an armed rebellion against the government if that becomes necessary. I hope it never does, but it sure is important to recognize the founding principles of this nation, and to make sure that they are fully understood.”

Do you agree with him?

Next thing they be rounding up all Democrats and put them in concentration camps.
You've gotten that backasswards. It's Democrats who want to round up law-abiding, gun-owning Republicans and put them in concentration camps.
When I seen what happened at the MI capital and at the Fed capital its conservatives (misnomer) that want to lock Dems up in the concentration camps.
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You're being ridiculous.

Those guys didn't hurt a soul, did they?


How are you so sure that people who don't ever hurt anyone are the most murderous, and most dangerous in the country, while simultaneously ignoring the people who actually are hurting and killing other Americans every day?









WTF is wrong with you?

How did you get so truly fucked in the head?
 
“The Second Amendment – this is a little history lesson for all the fake news media. The Second Amendment is not about, it’s not about hunting, it’s not about recreation, it’s not about sports,” the 39-year-old went on. “The Second Amendment is about maintaining, within the citizenry, the ability to maintain an armed rebellion against the government if that becomes necessary. I hope it never does, but it sure is important to recognize the founding principles of this nation, and to make sure that they are fully understood.”

Do you agree with him?

Next thing they be rounding up all Democrats and put them in concentration camps.
Yes, Matt is so right, the way this fucked up government is acting, the concerned citizens need to be ready for the take over of this country by the Socialists.


Matt Gaetz says gun are not hunting , their to take down the government.​

Matt Gaetz says guns are not for hunting, they are to take down the government. Did that help you move a little closer to a higher education?

View attachment 494552
This is a lie.

Jefferson never said this.


But he did say this:

He also said this, at no time when he was president did the have a military like today, they had militia and wanted to make sure men was entitled to arm themselves.
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First Army was established on 10 August 1918 as a field army when sufficient American military manpower had arrived in France during World War I.



Learn something about our country and our Right to keep and carry guns...

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I don't need to read a book that says every man should own a gun.
You shouldn't need to...... a thinking adult should realize that truth all on their own.


But you're all kinds of fucked up, ain't you?
 
“The Second Amendment – this is a little history lesson for all the fake news media. The Second Amendment is not about, it’s not about hunting, it’s not about recreation, it’s not about sports,” the 39-year-old went on. “The Second Amendment is about maintaining, within the citizenry, the ability to maintain an armed rebellion against the government if that becomes necessary. I hope it never does, but it sure is important to recognize the founding principles of this nation, and to make sure that they are fully understood.”

Do you agree with him?

Absolutely.

You believe the 2nd Amendment is so people can go hunting?

Exactly how fucking stupid are you?

Next thing they be rounding up all Democrats and put them in concentration camps.

Well, given how democrats prove, every day, that they're intent on destroying our country, I wouldn't have too big a problem with that...
The Democrats want to dwell in the 2021 year, the republicans want to go back to 1970 or earlier.
 
Yes, Matt is so right, the way this fucked up government is acting, the concerned citizens need to be ready for the take over of this country by the Socialists.
Ya mean like Jan 6...

Oh...


You mean when Trump supporters wandered the halls of the Capitol, took selfies and talked to the cops....while Antifa and blm violently attacked the cops and vandalized the building?

These were the Trump supporters.....caught on camera....


“Some say the riots were caused by antifa. There is absolutely no evidence of that,” McCarthy said. “Conservatives should be the first to say so.”

Even McCarthy said so.




We were also told that the Capitol police officer was beaten to death by Trump supporters with a fire extinguisher.......he believed the information on that too.....until the 2nd impeachment was over and they then told the truth....

Just like the lie about the death of the police officer, I am telling you now, we are eventually going to find out that the violent attackers at the Capitol were antifa and blm hiding among the Trump crowd......the democrats are hiding that fact....

The man has a stroke after the capital Jan 6th insurrection by the right wing violent crowd.



Yeah....he had a stroke.....like millions of other Americans....and?

Jan 7th??
 

Here's a list of militias in the US, see if you can find any Democratic ones.
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The desire to disarm the People, and take away their ability to fight back ... Is precisely why the actual fighting part started in the American Revolution.
There were Colonists that joined with the British Government and fought against the what would become the Americans.
There were Colonists that decided to join the fight against the British Government.

At the beginning of the American Revolution, only about 15% of the Colonists supported the idea of taking the fight to the British Government.
There were only around 30% of the Colonists that supported what their fellow Colonists wanted when the Revolution started.

It's wasn't about Democrats or Republicans ... It was about protecting your Liberties from the Government.
And it didn't have a damn thing to do with hunting.

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Here's a list of militias in the US, see if you can find any Democratic ones.
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The desire to disarm the People, and take away their ability to fight back ... Is precisely why the actual fighting part started in the American Revolution.
There were Colonists that joined with the British Government and fought against the what would become the Americans.
There were Colonists that decided to join the fight against the British Government.

At the beginning of the American Revolution, only about 15% of the Colonists supported the idea of taking the fight to the British Government.
There were only around 30% of the Colonists that supported what their fellow Colonists wanted when the Revolution started.

It's wasn't about Democrats or Republicans ... It was about protecting your Liberties from the Government.
And it didn't have a damn thing to do with hunting.

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The men has guns because they were hunters.
 

Here's a list of militias in the US, see if you can find any Democratic ones.
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The desire to disarm the People, and take away their ability to fight back ... Is precisely why the actual fighting part started in the American Revolution.
There were Colonists that joined with the British Government and fought against the what would become the Americans.
There were Colonists that decided to join the fight against the British Government.

At the beginning of the American Revolution, only about 15% of the Colonists supported the idea of taking the fight to the British Government.
There were only around 30% of the Colonists that supported what their fellow Colonists wanted when the Revolution started.

It's wasn't about Democrats or Republicans ... It was about protecting your Liberties from the Government.
And it didn't have a damn thing to do with hunting.

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The men has guns because they were hunters.
Was your lobotomy covered by your insurance?
 

Here's a list of militias in the US, see if you can find any Democratic ones.
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The desire to disarm the People, and take away their ability to fight back ... Is precisely why the actual fighting part started in the American Revolution.
There were Colonists that joined with the British Government and fought against the what would become the Americans.
There were Colonists that decided to join the fight against the British Government.

At the beginning of the American Revolution, only about 15% of the Colonists supported the idea of taking the fight to the British Government.
There were only around 30% of the Colonists that supported what their fellow Colonists wanted when the Revolution started.

It's wasn't about Democrats or Republicans ... It was about protecting your Liberties from the Government.
And it didn't have a damn thing to do with hunting.

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The men has guns because they were hunters.

The men has guns because they were hunters.

and when threatened, they banded together and formed a militia.
 
They should use these, the day the Constitution was ratified. The rifles today are not for the civilians.

Rifles​

Another type of weapon was the American long rifle. Many legends surround the American long rifle in the Revolution.

The rifle was a long gun made with grooves inside its barrel which made it more accurate than a musket. It was very accurate up to 300 yards and thus was a powerful weapon in the hands of scouts and skirmishers. American riflemen were so feared that some British officers were advised to remove the gold trimmings from their coats. However, the rifle was a slow weapon to reload and did not have a bayonet. A rifleman could be overtaken quickly by dragoons—troops on horseback—or by men with bayonets. North Carolina riflemen participated in defeating the British at the Battle of Kings Mountain.
 
They should use these, the day the Constitution was ratified. The rifles today are not for the civilians.

Rifles​

Another type of weapon was the American long rifle. Many legends surround the American long rifle in the Revolution.

The rifle was a long gun made with grooves inside its barrel which made it more accurate than a musket. It was very accurate up to 300 yards and thus was a powerful weapon in the hands of scouts and skirmishers. American riflemen were so feared that some British officers were advised to remove the gold trimmings from their coats. However, the rifle was a slow weapon to reload and did not have a bayonet. A rifleman could be overtaken quickly by dragoons—troops on horseback—or by men with bayonets. North Carolina riflemen participated in defeating the British at the Battle of Kings Mountain.
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You nit-wit ... When the Constitution was ratified ... A private citizen could own this:

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It isn't for fucking hunting.
(unless you are hunting Pirates)

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“The Second Amendment – this is a little history lesson for all the fake news media. The Second Amendment is not about, it’s not about hunting, it’s not about recreation, it’s not about sports,” the 39-year-old went on. “The Second Amendment is about maintaining, within the citizenry, the ability to maintain an armed rebellion against the government if that becomes necessary. I hope it never does, but it sure is important to recognize the founding principles of this nation, and to make sure that they are fully understood.”
Gaetz was right. When they wrote the constitution the states feared the power of a central federal government. And having overthrown one king, they wanted to preserve the power to do it again.

BUT....

That is why the 2nd amendment said that power rested in the state militias, the well regulated militias, that would be armed by the states, just like they were in the revolutionary war, and the 2nd amendment protected the rights of the states to arm themselves.

Gaetz just reversed the position the USSC took in Heller V DC which said it was an individual right, and Gaetz confirms it's a state right.

Interesting it takes a nut like Gaetz to say the supreme court was wrong on guns.
 

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