Matt Gaetz says gun are not hunting , their to take down the government.

[meaner gene]

Moron, the militia consisted of the colonists bringing their own rifles with a certain amount of powder and balls, with the rest of the militia powder stored away from people where it couldn't explode and hurt people.....

You don't have any idea what you are talking about.....

Again, you're wrong. Rifles were not the weapon of the revolutionary war, except by certain guerrilla units.

Outfitting an American Revolutionary Soldier | NCpedia

www.ncpedia.org

But the American rebels had to try to put together an army without money and without a strong government to organize that effort. Each colony raised regiments of soldiers to send to the Continental Line, the main army. Each colony also had its own militia to protect its citizens and property, if the British army should come within its borders.

Muskets

Weapons were the army's main concern. The most important weapon during the American Revolution was the musket—a long smoothbore gun (a gun without grooves inside its barrel) fired from the shoulder—with a bayonet attached at the end.

When the war began, American soldiers used the weapons from their state's militia stores...

Rifles

Another type of weapon was the American long rifle. Many legends surround the American long rifle in the Revolution.

The rifle was a long gun made with grooves inside its barrel which made it more accurate than a musket. It was very accurate up to 300 yards and thus was a powerful weapon in the hands of scouts and skirmishers. However, the rifle was a slow weapon to reload and did not have a bayonet.

Small Arms

The armies also had small arms—weapons that could be carried in a soldier's hand. These included pistols, sabers, and other spear-like weapons called spontoons and halberds. Often these weapons were carried by officers and sergeants as a sign of rank. Officers, particularly, carried smallswords.

 

[BlackSand]

Nowhere else in the Constitution does a “right” attributed to “the people” refer to anything other than an individual right.6

1st amendment:

"the right of the people peaceably to assemble"

This is clearly not an individual right, from simple definition and logic.

So that statement is wrong.

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No one is asking you if the peaceable assembly is not a collection of individual people.
Try harder not to understand your mistakes ...

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[2aguy]

Moron, the militia consisted of the colonists bringing their own rifles with a certain amount of powder and balls, with the rest of the militia powder stored away from people where it couldn't explode and hurt people.....

You don't have any idea what you are talking about.....

Again, you're wrong. Rifles were not the weapon of the revolutionary war, except by certain guerrilla units.

Outfitting an American Revolutionary Soldier | NCpedia

www.ncpedia.org

But the American rebels had to try to put together an army without money and without a strong government to organize that effort. Each colony raised regiments of soldiers to send to the Continental Line, the main army. Each colony also had its own militia to protect its citizens and property, if the British army should come within its borders.

Muskets

Weapons were the army's main concern. The most important weapon during the American Revolution was the musket—a long smoothbore gun (a gun without grooves inside its barrel) fired from the shoulder—with a bayonet attached at the end.

When the war began, American soldiers used the weapons from their state's militia stores...

Rifles

Another type of weapon was the American long rifle. Many legends surround the American long rifle in the Revolution.

The rifle was a long gun made with grooves inside its barrel which made it more accurate than a musket. It was very accurate up to 300 yards and thus was a powerful weapon in the hands of scouts and skirmishers. However, the rifle was a slow weapon to reload and did not have a bayonet.

Small Arms

The armies also had small arms—weapons that could be carried in a soldier's hand. These included pistols, sabers, and other spear-like weapons called spontoons and halberds. Often these weapons were carried by officers and sergeants as a sign of rank. Officers, particularly, carried smallswords.

Wow.......musket vs. rifle ....and you don't even understand that doesn't have any bearing on what you are spewing...

The colonists brought their own musket, quantities of powder and so many musket balls to muster.........and then the communal powder was kept away from people so it wouldn't explode....

You doofus.....

 

[2aguy]

Moron, the militia consisted of the colonists bringing their own rifles with a certain amount of powder and balls, with the rest of the militia powder stored away from people where it couldn't explode and hurt people.....

You don't have any idea what you are talking about.....

Again, you're wrong. Rifles were not the weapon of the revolutionary war, except by certain guerrilla units.

Outfitting an American Revolutionary Soldier | NCpedia

www.ncpedia.org

But the American rebels had to try to put together an army without money and without a strong government to organize that effort. Each colony raised regiments of soldiers to send to the Continental Line, the main army. Each colony also had its own militia to protect its citizens and property, if the British army should come within its borders.

Muskets

Weapons were the army's main concern. The most important weapon during the American Revolution was the musket—a long smoothbore gun (a gun without grooves inside its barrel) fired from the shoulder—with a bayonet attached at the end.

When the war began, American soldiers used the weapons from their state's militia stores...

Rifles

Another type of weapon was the American long rifle. Many legends surround the American long rifle in the Revolution.

The rifle was a long gun made with grooves inside its barrel which made it more accurate than a musket. It was very accurate up to 300 yards and thus was a powerful weapon in the hands of scouts and skirmishers. However, the rifle was a slow weapon to reload and did not have a bayonet.

Small Arms

The armies also had small arms—weapons that could be carried in a soldier's hand. These included pistols, sabers, and other spear-like weapons called spontoons and halberds. Often these weapons were carried by officers and sergeants as a sign of rank. Officers, particularly, carried smallswords.

And, dipstick....the rifles were privately owned by the colonists.......

 

[meaner gene]

Are you an idiot.......?

According to what you are saying, you have no right to stand in the public and state your grievances, you can only do it as part of a group?

Are you this stupid?

I am saying that the 1st amendments use of "the people" requires more than one person to effect that right. Making it a group, rather than an individual right. So the claim that the constitution only grants individual rights to "the people" is wrong.

 

[meaner gene]

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No one is asking you if the a peaceable assembly is not a collection of individual people.
Try harder not to understand your mistakes ...

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So is the right of "the people" to peaceable assemble, an individual or a collective right?

Can a person exercise that right individually, or does it require a group to exercise that right?

 

[meaner gene]

Wow.......musket vs. rifle ....and you don't even understand that doesn't have any bearing on what you are spewing...

The colonists brought their own musket, quantities of powder and so many musket balls to muster.........and then the communal powder was kept away from people so it wouldn't explode....

You doofus.....

From your own statement you admit you're in clown car status. As you say they brought their own musket, which is not a hunting weapon. It was a weapon provisioned to the militia by the states, and through them to the colonial army.

 

[meaner gene]

And, dipstick....the rifles were privately owned by the colonists.......

And rifles were not the primary weapon of the army. Skilled riflemen may have been formed into small guerrilla bands, but the army was composed of musketed troops.

 

[BlackSand]

And, dipstick....the rifles were privately owned by the colonists.......

And rifles were not the primary weapon of the army. Skilled riflemen may have been formed into small guerrilla bands, but the army was composed of musketed troops.

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They weren't hunting deer ... Unless of course they were hungry.

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[2aguy]

Are you an idiot.......?

According to what you are saying, you have no right to stand in the public and state your grievances, you can only do it as part of a group?

Are you this stupid?

I am saying that the 1st amendments use of "the people" requires more than one person to effect that right. Making it a group, rather than an individual right. So the claim that the constitution only grants individual rights to "the people" is wrong.

So, again, you are saying I can't go to townhall and protest...right....? If I am by myself then the government can prevent me from protesting.....?

Are you really this dense?

 

[BlackSand]

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So is the right of "the people" to peaceable assemble, an individual or a collective right?

Can a person exercise that right individually, or does it require a group to exercise that right?

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The right cannot be exercised without the individuals.
Try harder sweetie ... Here's a hint, stop trying to figure out what it doesn't mean.

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[2aguy]

And, dipstick....the rifles were privately owned by the colonists.......

And rifles were not the primary weapon of the army. Skilled riflemen may have been formed into small guerrilla bands, but the army was composed of musketed troops.

And............So?

The muskets and rifles were private arms, brought to muster by the individual colonists.....used for self defense against indians, and for hunting to feed families...then, when called, to serve in the militia..

Please....tell us where you are getting your info......that will be enlightening...

 

[2aguy]

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No one is asking you if the a peaceable assembly is not a collection of individual people.
Try harder not to understand your mistakes ...

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So is the right of "the people" to peaceable assemble, an individual or a collective right?

Can a person exercise that right individually, or does it require a group to exercise that right?

Both......you can go to a public place as an individual or get a group of people and assemble....you really, really need help.

 

[basquebromance]

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Where does the second amendment specify guns?

In its case law – which conservatives hate, oppose, and ignore.

 

[progressive hunter]

Where does the second amendment specify guns?

In its case law – which conservatives hate, oppose, and ignore.

case law doesnt apply to constitutional issues,, only amendments change the constitution,,

but you knew that,,

so that would make your premise a lie,,

 

[meaner gene]

They weren't hunting deer ... Unless of course they were hungry.

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Provisioning the continental army was sparse at best. They relied almost entire on the resources of the several states, and of the people to provide for the troops.
They also relied heavily on hunting and fishing and raiding the feed the troops.

 

[BlackSand]

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No one is asking you if the a peaceable assembly is not a collection of individual people.
Try harder not to understand your mistakes ...

.​

So is the right of "the people" to peaceable assemble, an individual or a collective right?

Can a person exercise that right individually, or does it require a group to exercise that right?

Both......you can go to a public place as an individual or get a group of people and assemble....you really, really need help.

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He's just the perfect example of what happens when someone wants to understand something ...
And their approach becomes an attempt to circumvent that actual understanding to suit their personal desires.

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[2aguy]

They weren't hunting deer ... Unless of course they were hungry.

.[/CENTER]

Provisioning the continental army was sparse at best. They relied almost entire on the resources of the several states, and of the people to provide for the troops.
They also relied heavily on hunting and fishing and raiding the feed the troops.

And as the members of the Continental Army went home as the Army moved between the colonies....they took their private muskets and rifles with them...

 

[meaner gene]

The right cannot be exercised without the individuals.

Wouldn't that be the definition of a collective right? A group made up of individuals.