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Oh piss off with your constant whining.This is pathetic
We can't make progress because WHITES don't accept resonsibiity for the complete nature of watthey have done. White ethinc groups excuded non white ethinc groups to get whatthey have You cannot compare them.
Asians stil suffer discrimination. Indians gert help from the gvernment, its called the H1B Visa. Without that, Asian median income reduces dramatically. Novbody wants to hear the responsibility sermon from somebody white.
Frome the book, "Get Your Knee Off Our Necks:
Many people claim to have suffered like blacks. Native Americans have a legitimate claim based on the genocide committed by the Americangovernment. Chinese were prevented from coming here by written law. But others? I will cite two groups, the Irish and the Polish. Upon coming to this country, both groups were considered lesser and inferior. Irish and blacks competed for the same jobs in the north and were relegated to low-wage, menial labor. Irish and blacks in the north lived in the same communities. Both groups mixed socially, intermarried, and had biracial children.
An article by a black writer in an 1860 edition of the Liberator explained how the Irish ultimately attained their objectives: “Fifteen or twenty years ago, a Catholic priest in Philadelphia said to the Irish people in that city, ‘You are all poor, and chiefly laborers, the blacks are poor laborers; many of the native whites are laborers; now, if you wish to succeed, you must do everything that they do, no matter how degrading, and do it for less than they can afford to do it for.’ The Irish adopted this plan; they lived on less than the Americans could live upon, and worked for less, and the result is, that nearly all the menial employments are monopolized by the Irish, who now get as good prices as anybody. There were other avenues open to American white men, and though they have suffered much, the chief support of the Irish has come from the places from which we have been crowded.”
Once the Irish secured themselves in those jobs, they made sure blacks were kept out. They realized that as long as they continued to work alongside blacks, they would be considered no different. Later, as Irish became prominent in the labor movement, African Americans were excluded from participation. In fact, one of the primary themes of How the Irish Became White is the way in which left labor historians, such as the highly acclaimed Herbert Gutman, have not paid sufficient attention to the problem of race in the development of the labor movement.
And so, we have the tragic story of how one oppressed “race,” Irish Catholics, learned how to collaborate in the oppression of another “race,” Africans in America, in order
to secure their place in the white republic. Becoming white meant losing their greenness, i.e., their Irish cultural heritage and the legacy of oppression and discrimination back home.”
-Art McDonald, Ph.D., “How the Irish Became White
The Polish had a similar experience.
Here it is important to understand how, exactly, Americans ‘become white’. The history of Polish-Americans is an illuminating example. Upon arriving in the U.S. en masse in the late 19th and early 20th century, Poles endured discrimination based on their appearance, religion and culture. In 1903, the New England Magazine decried the Poles’ “expressionless Slavic faces” and “stunted figures” as well as their inherent “ignorance” and “propensity to violence”. Working for terrible wages, Polish workers were renamed things like “Thomas Jefferson” by their bigoted Anglo-Saxon bosses who refused to utter Polish names.
The Poles, in other words, were not considered white. Far from it: they were considered a mysterious menace that should be expelled. When Polish-American Leon Czolgosz killed President William McKinley in 1901, all Poles were deemed potential violent anarchists. “All people are mourning, and it is caused by a maniac who is of our
nationality,” a Polish-American newspaper wrote, pressured to apologize for their own people. The collective blame of Poles for terrorism bears great similarity to how Muslims (both in the U.S. and Europe) are collectively blamed today.
But then something changed. In 1919, Irish gangs in blackface attacked Polish neighborhoods in Chicago in an attempt to convince Poles, and other Eastern European groups, that they, too, were “white” and should join them in the fight against blacks. As historian David R. Roediger recalls, “Poles argued that the riot was a conflict between blacks and whites, with Poles abstaining because they belonged to neither group.” But the Irish gangs considered whiteness, as is often the case in America, as anti-blackness. And as in the early 20th century Chicago experienced an influx not only of white immigrants from Europe, but blacks from the South, white groups who felt threatened by black arrivals decided that it would be politically advantageous if the Poles were considered white as well.
With that new white identity came the ability to practice the discrimination they had once endured. Over time, the strategy of positioning Poles as “white” against a dark-skinned “other” was successful. Poles came to consider themselves white, and more importantly, they came to be considered white by their fellow Americans, as did Italians, Greeks, Jews, Russians, and others from Southern and Eastern Europe, all of whom held an ambivalent racial status in U.S. society. Also, intermarriage between white ethnic groups led some to embrace a broader white identity.”
-Sarah Kendzior, “How do You Become “White” in America?”
In both instances, these groups stepped on blacks when they had the chance to unify and end the oppression of both sides. What we are looking at here is literally white privilege. No matter how people argue or complain, this is what our history records. Today there are descendants of European immigrants holding overtly racist views. Not one of these groups can honestly claim how they have had it just as bad as blacks, so blacks need to stop complaining and pull themselves up by the bootstraps like the Irish, Italians, Polish, etc.
Do not try telling me about responsibility until whites take some. The rason why whites have disprportionate wealthis because they excluded others.
You need to take your racist ass and shut up. You bleat the same crap over and over.When you can say some blacks commit crimes instead of blacks commit crimes I will use some whites in my description. The same goes for everything else people like you say about blacks, and not some blacks. And I think you need to stop assuming based on your racism about who and what I wouldn't apply for.
You really aren't paying attention. Wake up, clean up, stand up. Do you not know who said that?This is pathetic
We can't make progress because WHITES don't accept resonsibiity for the complete nature of watthey have done. White ethinc groups excuded non white ethinc groups to get whatthey have You cannot compare them.
Asians stil suffer discrimination. Indians gert help from the gvernment, its called the H1B Visa. Without that, Asian median income reduces dramatically. Novbody wants to hear the responsibility sermon from somebody white.
Frome the book, "Get Your Knee Off Our Necks:
Many people claim to have suffered like blacks. Native Americans have a legitimate claim based on the genocide committed by the Americangovernment. Chinese were prevented from coming here by written law. But others? I will cite two groups, the Irish and the Polish. Upon coming to this country, both groups were considered lesser and inferior. Irish and blacks competed for the same jobs in the north and were relegated to low-wage, menial labor. Irish and blacks in the north lived in the same communities. Both groups mixed socially, intermarried, and had biracial children.
An article by a black writer in an 1860 edition of the Liberator explained how the Irish ultimately attained their objectives: “Fifteen or twenty years ago, a Catholic priest in Philadelphia said to the Irish people in that city, ‘You are all poor, and chiefly laborers, the blacks are poor laborers; many of the native whites are laborers; now, if you wish to succeed, you must do everything that they do, no matter how degrading, and do it for less than they can afford to do it for.’ The Irish adopted this plan; they lived on less than the Americans could live upon, and worked for less, and the result is, that nearly all the menial employments are monopolized by the Irish, who now get as good prices as anybody. There were other avenues open to American white men, and though they have suffered much, the chief support of the Irish has come from the places from which we have been crowded.”
Once the Irish secured themselves in those jobs, they made sure blacks were kept out. They realized that as long as they continued to work alongside blacks, they would be considered no different. Later, as Irish became prominent in the labor movement, African Americans were excluded from participation. In fact, one of the primary themes of How the Irish Became White is the way in which left labor historians, such as the highly acclaimed Herbert Gutman, have not paid sufficient attention to the problem of race in the development of the labor movement.
And so, we have the tragic story of how one oppressed “race,” Irish Catholics, learned how to collaborate in the oppression of another “race,” Africans in America, in order
to secure their place in the white republic. Becoming white meant losing their greenness, i.e., their Irish cultural heritage and the legacy of oppression and discrimination back home.”
-Art McDonald, Ph.D., “How the Irish Became White
The Polish had a similar experience.
Here it is important to understand how, exactly, Americans ‘become white’. The history of Polish-Americans is an illuminating example. Upon arriving in the U.S. en masse in the late 19th and early 20th century, Poles endured discrimination based on their appearance, religion and culture. In 1903, the New England Magazine decried the Poles’ “expressionless Slavic faces” and “stunted figures” as well as their inherent “ignorance” and “propensity to violence”. Working for terrible wages, Polish workers were renamed things like “Thomas Jefferson” by their bigoted Anglo-Saxon bosses who refused to utter Polish names.
The Poles, in other words, were not considered white. Far from it: they were considered a mysterious menace that should be expelled. When Polish-American Leon Czolgosz killed President William McKinley in 1901, all Poles were deemed potential violent anarchists. “All people are mourning, and it is caused by a maniac who is of our
nationality,” a Polish-American newspaper wrote, pressured to apologize for their own people. The collective blame of Poles for terrorism bears great similarity to how Muslims (both in the U.S. and Europe) are collectively blamed today.
But then something changed. In 1919, Irish gangs in blackface attacked Polish neighborhoods in Chicago in an attempt to convince Poles, and other Eastern European groups, that they, too, were “white” and should join them in the fight against blacks. As historian David R. Roediger recalls, “Poles argued that the riot was a conflict between blacks and whites, with Poles abstaining because they belonged to neither group.” But the Irish gangs considered whiteness, as is often the case in America, as anti-blackness. And as in the early 20th century Chicago experienced an influx not only of white immigrants from Europe, but blacks from the South, white groups who felt threatened by black arrivals decided that it would be politically advantageous if the Poles were considered white as well.
With that new white identity came the ability to practice the discrimination they had once endured. Over time, the strategy of positioning Poles as “white” against a dark-skinned “other” was successful. Poles came to consider themselves white, and more importantly, they came to be considered white by their fellow Americans, as did Italians, Greeks, Jews, Russians, and others from Southern and Eastern Europe, all of whom held an ambivalent racial status in U.S. society. Also, intermarriage between white ethnic groups led some to embrace a broader white identity.”
-Sarah Kendzior, “How do You Become “White” in America?”
In both instances, these groups stepped on blacks when they had the chance to unify and end the oppression of both sides. What we are looking at here is literally white privilege. No matter how people argue or complain, this is what our history records. Today there are descendants of European immigrants holding overtly racist views. Not one of these groups can honestly claim how they have had it just as bad as blacks, so blacks need to stop complaining and pull themselves up by the bootstraps like the Irish, Italians, Polish, etc.
Do not try telling me about responsibility until whites take some. The rason why whites have disprportionate wealthis because they excluded others.
An A1 prime field hand was worth $40,000 dollars in today's money. Hell, maybe the problem was the actual elimination of slavery. Those AI prime field hands went from a value of forty grand to zero.Oh piss off with your constant whining.
Chinese could be shot to death in the street in the old west, so could my people.
Even slaves were protected from that.
Now, 150 years later, the Chinese are among the wealthiest ethnic group in the USA.
Native Americans are finally starting to make some good advances and getting wealthier, though some are still groveling, like you, and will never amount to anything.
Like you.
WTF to you want? I mean let's negotiate. Reparations, great, although I think the entire concept is just sick. I mean for decades, the southern aristocracy made money on the backs of slave labor, although to an extent that is far less than implied by today's advocates. It was mostly Northern insurance companies, commodity traders, and state and the federal government that made that money. But now, well all you guys are wanting to climb on the backs of those long deceased slaves and get you some money. How disrespectful, how lame. But hey, I am willing to play along.When you can say some blacks commit crimes instead of blacks commit crimes I will use some whites in my description. The same goes for everything else people like you say about blacks, and not some blacks. And I think you need to stop assuming based on your racism about who and what I wouldn't apply for.
Wrong. You don't get to make any determinations because the basis on which you make them are false. You are living off ill gotten gains of long deceased whites. Stop pretending the injustices stopped after slavery.WTF to you want? I mean let's negotiate. Reparations, great, although I think the entire concept is just sick. I mean for decades, the southern aristocracy made money on the backs of slave labor, although to an extent that is far less than implied by today's advocates. It was mostly Northern insurance companies, commodity traders, and state and the federal government that made that money. But now, well all you guys are wanting to climb on the backs of those long deceased slaves and get you some money. How disrespectful, how lame. But hey, I am willing to play along.
We establish a federal program. Every black individual born in America after a certain date is granted a whole life insurance policy of $40,000, funded until they are 18. At that point, they can continue funding it or take the cash value.
