Matt Gaetz says gun are not hunting , their to take down the government.

[meaner gene]

Wrong again, there was no way the army fought at 50 yards or longer, because the Musket couldnt hit shit past 20 yards. Why else did the commanders cry "wait till you see the whites of their eyes"? That was 10 yards of just over it...

"DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITE OF THEIR EYES." The origin of this alleged command to the American patriots at Bunker Hill on 17 June 1775 by Colonel William Prescott

Saratoga: The Tide Turns on the Frontier (Teaching with Historic Places) (U.S. National Park Service)

www.nps.gov

To compensate for the musket's lack of accuracy, commanders deployed troops on open fields in lines that would halt within 100 yards of each other.

Speed was essential to 18th-century soldiers because the more quickly a volley could be fired, the better the chance that the enemy would break and run without returning fire. A good regiment could load, fire, and reload 3 times in a minute.

Skirmishers, called "light troops," were marksmen armed with muskets or rifles. The rifle used tight-fitting balls and had a spiral groove cut in the barrel that made it very accurate over a longer distance. Because rifles took a long time to produce and were expensive, very few soldiers were armed with this weapon. Rifles had other disadvantages. A good rifleman could fire only once every 1 to 2 minutes. Furthermore, rifles could not take bayonets making them useless in hand-to-hand fighting.

 

[meaner gene]

Why do the criminals always seem to get illegal guns to use on Law Abiding Citizens? The criminals dont go into a gun store to pass a background check...stupid moron...

Jow about from the fruits of their crimes. There are so many guns in individuals hands, a burglar is as likely to find a gun as a jewelry box.

 

[meaner gene]

New Report on Where Criminals Get Their Guns | National Review

It would be very difficult to regulate most of these transactions.

www.nationalreview.com

Among prisoners serving time for a crime during which they possessed a gun ... (6 percent) through theft. And 12 percent of the time, the guns were either brought to the crime by someone else or found at the scene.

 

[Lesh]

have completely different range

the range would have varied depending on what musket you had and what you hunted with it. Standardized production played a large part in this as well.

I think you are still confused about muskets and rifles. A fowler is a musket not a rifle.

Fowlers had an effective range of maybe 50 yards. The army fought at twice that distance.

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Details of our fowler musket
The weapon itself is typical of the type of flintlock musket that hung over the mantle of nearly every early colonist. No home was complete without a long gun as it was vital for gathering food and, in some cases, for defense. This particular musket is what was commonly known as a “fowler”, a term that originated in the 17th century. The gun was used for hunting game, most commonly wild ducks, geese and other fowl: hence, the name. The barrel is 62.25 inches in length (as opposed to 55 inches for the standard “Brown Bess” type) with a bore diameter of .75 inches.

Sure that particular, unique MUSKET has a range of 50 yards. The range isn't the point of contention. It's the nitpicking about muskets and rifles. While technically different, people use the terms muskets and rifles interchangeably. That's what started this: someone referring to muskets as rifles in a generalized way. Kind of like people saying cars when they are speaking about trucks. We both know what he was talking about but it spun out into the difference between the two and those differences having some sort of relation to the 2nd Amendment.

False. Muskets had zero use to colonists in any other way then as militia weapons. Rifles were used for hunting. They had some value to militia regarding snipers but in real military terms they had little use. Where colonists had muskets they were rarely purchased. Most were leftover from the French and Indian War

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

That conservatives advocate for such reckless, irresponsible nonsense illustrates their contempt for Heller and Second Amendment jurisprudence – indeed, their contempt for the rule of law and the Constitution itself.

They are reckless in their zeal.
There's law on the governor of Texas's desk that would make anyone over 21 eligible to carry a handgun in public. No training, or proficiency or background checks.

Texas Concealed Carry Laws & Regulations | Concealedcarry-ed.com™

Texas Concealed Carry Laws & Regulations Including Transportation of Firearms, Alcohol and Consumption While Carrying, and Texas CCW Reciprocity.

www.concealedcarry-ed.com

Texas License to Carry Permit Requirements
Applicant Requirements:

You must be 21 years of age or older to apply for a Texas License to Carry (LTC).
You must have a valid government-issued identification card, such as driver's license from Texas or another state.
You must meet all qualifications to purchase a handgun.
You must pass an approved classroom or online training course and demonstrate handgun proficiency shooting with a Texas-qualified LTC instructor.


All that gets tossed out the window.

Yes, conservative Orwellian doublespeak refers to such measures as ‘constitutional carry’ – when in fact laws requiring a permit or license to carry a firearm are also Constitutional carry.

One day, i hope you get yours....

 

[lennypartiv]

DC needs more people like Matt Gaetz.

 

[BlackSand]

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Then give a legal argument how a single person can "peacefully assemble"
Because California penal code 415 PC and it's ensuing case law clearly says that the 1st amendment right to stand and shout in protest is not an individual right.

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People assemble into an assembly.
The California Penal code is not the US Constitution.


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[initforme]

I can't stand Matty....he says my hunting rifle is not for hunting....I could never support one ideal of his after this.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Why do the criminals always seem to get illegal guns to use on Law Abiding Citizens? The criminals dont go into a gun store to pass a background check...stupid moron...

Jow about from the fruits of their crimes. There are so many guns in individuals hands, a burglar is as likely to find a gun as a jewelry box.

When will the government stop the weapons that cross our southern border along with the drugs that come with them? Not one person was ever murdered by a NRA member....Unlike your side who seems to go out and kill as many people as they can, before they take themselves out....

 

[BlackSand]

So, instead of listing rifles, shotguns, muskets, derringers, handguns, swords, knives, etc separately, they save space by only using 'arms', and somehow, it's readers choice as to which it refers to?

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The Bill of Rights was written to protect our Liberties and restrict the Federal Government.
That doesn't mean they need to sit around trying to figure out how to restrict our Liberties and circumvent the Constitution.

They will try to pick apart every word like President Clinton in a Grand Jury hearing.
We know they are full of shit, they know they are full of shit ... They should just stop pretending.

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[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Every Trumpers wet dream is an armed rebellion like January 6th, where they can declare lardass El Presidente for life.

Fucking fascists.

Armed Rebellion?


Here:

Clutch them with fervent vigor.

Look how unarmed looters put Congress on it's knees. The 6 January protest caused Acrazio-Cortez to go to therapy...lol

 

[meaner gene]

One day, i hope you get yours....

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You confuse protecting yourself on the street, and protecting your house and home. People have never been prohibited from protecting their "castle"

 

[meaner gene]

DC needs more people like Matt Gaetz.

Do you mean politicians or pedophiles?

 

[Clipper]

DC needs more people like Matt Gaetz.

Name one thing Matty has done for his district. We're waiting. Matt Gaetz is a punk who if it wasen't for his daddy's money would be cleaning bird shit out of cuckoo clocks for a living.

 

[meaner gene]

People assemble into an assembly.
The California Penal code is not the US Constitution.

If the california law allowing arrest of people disturbing the peace wasn't constitutional, it would have been overturned. Caselaw has upheld its constitutionality, so it can be used to define the right to protest belonging to a group.

 

[BlackSand]

One day, i hope you get yours....

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You confuse protecting yourself on the street, and protecting your house and home. People have never been prohibited from protecting their "castle"

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The Second Amendment doesn't say anything about your "castle" ...
And we weren't asking for permission to protect ourselves wherever we are.

No need to pretend it has anything to do with the Topic.

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[BlackSand]

If the california law allowing arrest of people disturbing the peace wasn't constitutional, it would have been overturned. Caselaw has upheld its constitutionality, so it can be used to define the right to protest belonging to a group.

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Seriously ... I don't give a rat's ass if Californians write a law calling themselves Unicorns.
I don't care if they try to use it in court and win, establishing Unicorns in case law.

It doesn't change what the US Constitution says or means.

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[Mikeoxenormous]

DC needs more people like Matt Gaetz.

Do you mean politicians or pedophiles?

Funny, You did vote in Joe Biden the groper of women and children....Do you hate Matt because he is a Republican?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

DC needs more people like Matt Gaetz.

Name one thing Matty has done for his district. We're waiting. Matt Gaetz is a punk who if it wasen't for his daddy's money would be cleaning bird shit out of cuckoo clocks for a living.

Tell me one thing that Nancy Pelosi has done for her district? Oh yeah, killed off quite a few of them...

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While the coronavirus has overshadowed other causes of death since last year, deadly drugs like fentanyl are taking a heartbreaking toll in places like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's (D-CA) hometown of San Francisco. In fact, despite the impression left by pandemic fearmongers in the Democratic...

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[meaner gene]

Not one person was ever murdered by a NRA member....

This is why the internet is not your friend.

https://vpc.org/press/vpc-identifies-over-500-concealed-carry-killers-including-an-nra-lifetime-member/

One of the recently convicted concealed carry killers was National Rifle Association lifetime member William Sherwood, who shot and killed a fellow motorist following a traffic accident in Melbourne, Florida. Sherwood was found guilty of second degree murder on September 17, 2014.

Now amend that ridiculous post.