Maybe Trump does have something here.....uhmmmmmmmm

[skookerasbil]

Anybody and everybody knows, I hate Trump, but Trump is right guys, he's right. Forget about the wall and all this other bs he talks about, but he's on point, with minimizing immigration. We can't on the one hand whine about the high costs of healthcare in this country and wanting to dismantle anything that helps take care of our people and then whine about illegals not getting the proper health needs they get once in this country. If we're to go on this mantra about people being poor, overwhelmed with violence, threatened, etc...then we must open our borders to every 3rd world country in the world, because everybody got a little misery going on in their lives, latino's are not exclusive to this shit. They do exploit their kids, like this little girl of late, whom they're using as a the poster child for poverty.....in the country less than a few months and the kid speaks better english than our own?????

I'm not saying, lets build the effin wall, I'm not saying let cut immigration all together, what I am saying is the at some point, THE US CAN NOT HOUSE EVERY MISERABLE BASTARD IN THE WORLD WANTING TO COME HERE, WE CAN'T. All these bleeding heart liberals would shit a brick if any of these people moved in their communities and took em over, like they do in poor communities all across this nation. You can't even get a fuckin job in Ca. unless your bi-lingual. And to all these bleeding heart liberals, once in this country, once given citizenship...ITS THE GOP party, these coat tail riding folk cling to in the end, not the democratic party, we're just the one's that bring them to the dance, they leave with a conservative.

All I'm saying is let step back, take a look at the millions that here already, not to mention the thousands waiting to be heard and the millions that will certainly enter this year, lets see what impact once again immigration is having on TAX PAYERS IN THIS COUNTRY, PLEASE!!

Oh please. Both parties have supported border security.

This entire thing is 100% Trump being an asshole.

We should continue to allow immigration & not just freom whiyte countrioes like Trump said.

We should continue to accept refugees.

Thank God your sentiments are fringe!

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Oh please. Both parties have supported border security.

Good one. How could anyone look at the way the left is obstructing a border barrier and claim that?

This entire thing is 100% Trump being an asshole.

We should continue to allow immigration & not just freom whiyte countrioes like Trump said.

We should continue to accept refugees.

Trump never said that, fool.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

How

Methinks the majority of us are on board protecting our boarders, national identity , etc..... it's simply a matter of how it's done.....~S~

How would you like it done, because right now it’s not working?

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Anybody and everybody knows, I hate Trump, but Trump is right guys, he's right. Forget about the wall and all this other bs he talks about, but he's on point, with minimizing immigration. We can't on the one hand whine about the high costs of healthcare in this country and wanting to dismantle anything that helps take care of our people and then whine about illegals not getting the proper health needs they get once in this country. If we're to go on this mantra about people being poor, overwhelmed with violence, threatened, etc...then we must open our borders to every 3rd world country in the world, because everybody got a little misery going on in their lives, latino's are not exclusive to this shit. They do exploit their kids, like this little girl of late, whom they're using as a the poster child for poverty.....in the country less than a few months and the kid speaks better english than our own?????

I'm not saying, lets build the effin wall, I'm not saying let cut immigration all together, what I am saying is the at some point, THE US CAN NOT HOUSE EVERY MISERABLE BASTARD IN THE WORLD WANTING TO COME HERE, WE CAN'T. All these bleeding heart liberals would shit a brick if any of these people moved in their communities and took em over, like they do in poor communities all across this nation. You can't even get a fuckin job in Ca. unless your bi-lingual. And to all these bleeding heart liberals, once in this country, once given citizenship...ITS THE GOP party, these coat tail riding folk cling to in the end, not the democratic party, we're just the one's that bring them to the dance, they leave with a conservative.

All I'm saying is let step back, take a look at the millions that here already, not to mention the thousands waiting to be heard and the millions that will certainly enter this year, lets see what impact once again immigration is having on TAX PAYERS IN THIS COUNTRY, PLEASE!!

I disagree.

We HAVE TO maintain military supremacy over China. To even be close to on par means we can't project our will on Taiwan, whatever islands we think are important over there and any possible threat anyplace.

China already buys more new cars than us. At some point that economy is going to pass ours in a real sense and economies build Space Forces.

Our economy is strung pretty tight since we had that Cold War to win and have been running an economic battle with SE Asia. We do everything we can to pump our real estate values, our stock values and our dollar. One trip in the real estate market/banking system and its almost socialist revolution time. Remember, bad economy = bad military. Ask the USSR.

Where do immigrants come in?

We have hollow inner cities and now suburbs all over the rust belt. Cities own properties in things called "land banks" because no one wants to buy them! They're worthless, abandoned properties that don't sell for back taxes at auctions.

Get them folks over here, make them follow the laws, make them work, make them Americans with homes in downtown Cleveland, Detroit or St Louis or export them to Antarctica for all I care. For all our history every new wave of "different" immigrants was going to be the end of the American Way. Look back at the limits we placed on Japanese or Chinese or thisease or thatease. They all seem soo quaint and wrong now.

Just get them here, make them contribute to our GDP and lets build our spaceforce.

The reason all those houses in Detroit et al are empty is in large part due to the lack of economic opportunity for anybody who lives there. So sticking a bunch of immigrants in them with no opportunity to work doesn’t seem to make sense to me.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

Anybody and everybody knows, I hate Trump, but Trump is right guys, he's right. Forget about the wall and all this other bs he talks about, but he's on point, with minimizing immigration. We can't on the one hand whine about the high costs of healthcare in this country and wanting to dismantle anything that helps take care of our people and then whine about illegals not getting the proper health needs they get once in this country. If we're to go on this mantra about people being poor, overwhelmed with violence, threatened, etc...then we must open our borders to every 3rd world country in the world, because everybody got a little misery going on in their lives, latino's are not exclusive to this shit. They do exploit their kids, like this little girl of late, whom they're using as a the poster child for poverty.....in the country less than a few months and the kid speaks better english than our own?????

I'm not saying, lets build the effin wall, I'm not saying let cut immigration all together, what I am saying is the at some point, THE US CAN NOT HOUSE EVERY MISERABLE BASTARD IN THE WORLD WANTING TO COME HERE, WE CAN'T. All these bleeding heart liberals would shit a brick if any of these people moved in their communities and took em over, like they do in poor communities all across this nation. You can't even get a fuckin job in Ca. unless your bi-lingual. And to all these bleeding heart liberals, once in this country, once given citizenship...ITS THE GOP party, these coat tail riding folk cling to in the end, not the democratic party, we're just the one's that bring them to the dance, they leave with a conservative.

All I'm saying is let step back, take a look at the millions that here already, not to mention the thousands waiting to be heard and the millions that will certainly enter this year, lets see what impact once again immigration is having on TAX PAYERS IN THIS COUNTRY, PLEASE!!

I disagree.

We HAVE TO maintain military supremacy over China. To even be close to on par means we can't project our will on Taiwan, whatever islands we think are important over there and any possible threat anyplace.

China already buys more new cars than us. At some point that economy is going to pass ours in a real sense and economies build Space Forces.

Our economy is strung pretty tight since we had that Cold War to win and have been running an economic battle with SE Asia. We do everything we can to pump our real estate values, our stock values and our dollar. One trip in the real estate market/banking system and its almost socialist revolution time. Remember, bad economy = bad military. Ask the USSR.

Where do immigrants come in?

We have hollow inner cities and now suburbs all over the rust belt. Cities own properties in things called "land banks" because no one wants to buy them! They're worthless, abandoned properties that don't sell for back taxes at auctions.

Get them folks over here, make them follow the laws, make them work, make them Americans with homes in downtown Cleveland, Detroit or St Louis or export them to Antarctica for all I care. For all our history every new wave of "different" immigrants was going to be the end of the American Way. Look back at the limits we placed on Japanese or Chinese or thisease or thatease. They all seem soo quaint and wrong now.

Just get them here, make them contribute to our GDP and lets build our spaceforce.

The reason all those houses in Detroit et al are empty is in large part due to the lack of economic opportunity for anybody who lives there. So sticking a bunch of immigrants in them with no opportunity to work doesn’t seem to make sense to me.

 

[sparky]

How

Methinks the majority of us are on board protecting our boarders, national identity , etc..... it's simply a matter of how it's done.....~S~

How would you like it done, because right now it’s not working?

Try enforcing the laws we do have , ICE had a recent field day doing so ~S

 

[RealDave]

Oh please. Both parties have supported border security.

Good one. How could anyone look at the way the left is obstructing a border barrier and claim that?

This entire thing is 100% Trump being an asshole.

We should continue to allow immigration & not just freom whiyte countrioes like Trump said.

We should continue to accept refugees.

Trump never said that, fool.

 

[RealDave]

Oh please. Both parties have supported border security.

Good one. How could anyone look at the way the left is obstructing a border barrier and claim that?

This entire thing is 100% Trump being an asshole.

We should continue to allow immigration & not just freom whiyte countrioes like Trump said.

We should continue to accept refugees.

Trump never said that, fool.

Just just said he did not want immigration from the shitholes of Africa but wanted immigration from white Norway.

 

[justoffal]

Anybody and everybody knows, I hate Trump, but Trump is right guys, he's right. Forget about the wall and all this other bs he talks about, but he's on point, with minimizing immigration. We can't on the one hand whine about the high costs of healthcare in this country and wanting to dismantle anything that helps take care of our people and then whine about illegals not getting the proper health needs they get once in this country. If we're to go on this mantra about people being poor, overwhelmed with violence, threatened, etc...then we must open our borders to every 3rd world country in the world, because everybody got a little misery going on in their lives, latino's are not exclusive to this shit. They do exploit their kids, like this little girl of late, whom they're using as a the poster child for poverty.....in the country less than a few months and the kid speaks better english than our own?????

I'm not saying, lets build the effin wall, I'm not saying let cut immigration all together, what I am saying is the at some point, THE US CAN NOT HOUSE EVERY MISERABLE BASTARD IN THE WORLD WANTING TO COME HERE, WE CAN'T. All these bleeding heart liberals would shit a brick if any of these people moved in their communities and took em over, like they do in poor communities all across this nation. You can't even get a fuckin job in Ca. unless your bi-lingual. And to all these bleeding heart liberals, once in this country, once given citizenship...ITS THE GOP party, these coat tail riding folk cling to in the end, not the democratic party, we're just the one's that bring them to the dance, they leave with a conservative.

All I'm saying is let step back, take a look at the millions that here already, not to mention the thousands waiting to be heard and the millions that will certainly enter this year, lets see what impact once again immigration is having on TAX PAYERS IN THIS COUNTRY, PLEASE!!

I disagree.

We HAVE TO maintain military supremacy over China. To even be close to on par means we can't project our will on Taiwan, whatever islands we think are important over there and any possible threat anyplace.

China already buys more new cars than us. At some point that economy is going to pass ours in a real sense and economies build Space Forces.

Our economy is strung pretty tight since we had that Cold War to win and have been running an economic battle with SE Asia. We do everything we can to pump our real estate values, our stock values and our dollar. One trip in the real estate market/banking system and its almost socialist revolution time. Remember, bad economy = bad military. Ask the USSR.

Where do immigrants come in?

We have hollow inner cities and now suburbs all over the rust belt. Cities own properties in things called "land banks" because no one wants to buy them! They're worthless, abandoned properties that don't sell for back taxes at auctions.

Get them folks over here, make them follow the laws, make them work, make them Americans with homes in downtown Cleveland, Detroit or St Louis or export them to Antarctica for all I care. For all our history every new wave of "different" immigrants was going to be the end of the American Way. Look back at the limits we placed on Japanese or Chinese or thisease or thatease. They all seem soo quaint and wrong now.

Just get them here, make them contribute to our GDP and lets build our spaceforce.

.......and when the shit hits the fans, the economy slows and it will.....lets blame the immigrants. Nice try, tho

I'm not blaming the immigrants.

Check this out:

Its not the best source, but that red bar is the American GDP of Immigrants not natives! We darn near exterminated the natives.

So to be clear,

Immigrants build/built our economy.
We have empty spaces in this country.
People living in downtown St Louis is better than big government owning decaying properties.
Capitalistic supply and DEMAND for real estate is better for property values than any trick of interest rates and mortgage insurance trick Donald or Nancy can come up with.

You clueless moron....
No shit the Indians didn't do it.
Neither did the recent wave of social parasites.

The immigrants you're talking about
Taught themselves, fed themselves and paid their own bills.

You're trying to attach a horse's ass to a pig's head.

Jo

 

[Toronado3800]

Anybody and everybody knows, I hate Trump, but Trump is right guys, he's right. Forget about the wall and all this other bs he talks about, but he's on point, with minimizing immigration. We can't on the one hand whine about the high costs of healthcare in this country and wanting to dismantle anything that helps take care of our people and then whine about illegals not getting the proper health needs they get once in this country. If we're to go on this mantra about people being poor, overwhelmed with violence, threatened, etc...then we must open our borders to every 3rd world country in the world, because everybody got a little misery going on in their lives, latino's are not exclusive to this shit. They do exploit their kids, like this little girl of late, whom they're using as a the poster child for poverty.....in the country less than a few months and the kid speaks better english than our own?????

I'm not saying, lets build the effin wall, I'm not saying let cut immigration all together, what I am saying is the at some point, THE US CAN NOT HOUSE EVERY MISERABLE BASTARD IN THE WORLD WANTING TO COME HERE, WE CAN'T. All these bleeding heart liberals would shit a brick if any of these people moved in their communities and took em over, like they do in poor communities all across this nation. You can't even get a fuckin job in Ca. unless your bi-lingual. And to all these bleeding heart liberals, once in this country, once given citizenship...ITS THE GOP party, these coat tail riding folk cling to in the end, not the democratic party, we're just the one's that bring them to the dance, they leave with a conservative.

All I'm saying is let step back, take a look at the millions that here already, not to mention the thousands waiting to be heard and the millions that will certainly enter this year, lets see what impact once again immigration is having on TAX PAYERS IN THIS COUNTRY, PLEASE!!

I disagree.

We HAVE TO maintain military supremacy over China. To even be close to on par means we can't project our will on Taiwan, whatever islands we think are important over there and any possible threat anyplace.

China already buys more new cars than us. At some point that economy is going to pass ours in a real sense and economies build Space Forces.

Our economy is strung pretty tight since we had that Cold War to win and have been running an economic battle with SE Asia. We do everything we can to pump our real estate values, our stock values and our dollar. One trip in the real estate market/banking system and its almost socialist revolution time. Remember, bad economy = bad military. Ask the USSR.

Where do immigrants come in?

We have hollow inner cities and now suburbs all over the rust belt. Cities own properties in things called "land banks" because no one wants to buy them! They're worthless, abandoned properties that don't sell for back taxes at auctions.

Get them folks over here, make them follow the laws, make them work, make them Americans with homes in downtown Cleveland, Detroit or St Louis or export them to Antarctica for all I care. For all our history every new wave of "different" immigrants was going to be the end of the American Way. Look back at the limits we placed on Japanese or Chinese or thisease or thatease. They all seem soo quaint and wrong now.

Just get them here, make them contribute to our GDP and lets build our spaceforce.

.......and when the shit hits the fans, the economy slows and it will.....lets blame the immigrants. Nice try, tho

I'm not blaming the immigrants.

Check this out:

Its not the best source, but that red bar is the American GDP of Immigrants not natives! We darn near exterminated the natives.

So to be clear,

Immigrants build/built our economy.
We have empty spaces in this country.
People living in downtown St Louis is better than big government owning decaying properties.
Capitalistic supply and DEMAND for real estate is better for property values than any trick of interest rates and mortgage insurance trick Donald or Nancy can come up with.

You clueless moron....
No shit the Indians didn't do it.
Neither did the recent wave of social parasites.

The immigrants you're talking about
Taught themselves, fed themselves and paid their own bills.

You're trying to attach a horse's ass to a pig's head.

Jo

Folks, if this were 1850 we'd be hearing not to let these shanty Irish in from folks like this because the Irish were to criminal and backwards.

If it were 1875 and we would be hearing how it was important to ban the immigration of Chinese women because.....well because I suppose.

All that seems quaint now. Lets learn from history not be on the laughing stock side of it.

 

[tigerred59]

Methinks the majority of us are on board protecting our boarders, national identity , etc..... it's simply a matter of how it's done.....~S~

BS, the left doesn't want secure borders, they want votes. It's as simple as that.

SJ, legal latino's overwhelmingly vote the conservative ticket that is fact

 

[tigerred59]

Anybody and everybody knows, I hate Trump, but Trump is right guys, he's right. Forget about the wall and all this other bs he talks about, but he's on point, with minimizing immigration. We can't on the one hand whine about the high costs of healthcare in this country and wanting to dismantle anything that helps take care of our people and then whine about illegals not getting the proper health needs they get once in this country. If we're to go on this mantra about people being poor, overwhelmed with violence, threatened, etc...then we must open our borders to every 3rd world country in the world, because everybody got a little misery going on in their lives, latino's are not exclusive to this shit. They do exploit their kids, like this little girl of late, whom they're using as a the poster child for poverty.....in the country less than a few months and the kid speaks better english than our own?????

I'm not saying, lets build the effin wall, I'm not saying let cut immigration all together, what I am saying is the at some point, THE US CAN NOT HOUSE EVERY MISERABLE BASTARD IN THE WORLD WANTING TO COME HERE, WE CAN'T. All these bleeding heart liberals would shit a brick if any of these people moved in their communities and took em over, like they do in poor communities all across this nation. You can't even get a fuckin job in Ca. unless your bi-lingual. And to all these bleeding heart liberals, once in this country, once given citizenship...ITS THE GOP party, these coat tail riding folk cling to in the end, not the democratic party, we're just the one's that bring them to the dance, they leave with a conservative.

All I'm saying is let step back, take a look at the millions that here already, not to mention the thousands waiting to be heard and the millions that will certainly enter this year, lets see what impact once again immigration is having on TAX PAYERS IN THIS COUNTRY, PLEASE!!

Oh please. Both parties have supported border security.

This entire thing is 100% Trump being an asshole.

We should continue to allow immigration & not just freom whiyte countrioes like Trump said.

We should continue to accept refugees.

Bullshit, NEITHER party has supported border security, Trump is forcing the issue.

Yeah okay in 2006 and again in 2013 Congress passed security fence bills and they were signed into law, so where is the security fence? See, the dopes in DC have fooled the dopes (like you) out of DC. It's easy to vote for things you know will never be built. Neither Bush nor Obama ever intended to build that security fence, or seriously increase border security.

That's why the very same assholes who voted yes in 2006 and 2013 (like Chuck Schumer) are suddenly "oh no wall's don't work, it's too expensive, racist, blah blah blah " because they know if they give Trump the money, that wall will be built. And they never wanted it, whether you call it a wall , a fence, perimeter security, or anything else.

YOU WOULD THINK AFTER 9/11 OUR BORDERS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MOST TOP PRIORITY IN THE NATION, YES? THE GOP DID NOTHING UNDER BUSH BECAUSE WALL STREET WASN'T HAVING IT. MORE ILLEGALS WERE DEPORTED UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA THAN ANY ADMINISTRATION PRIOR OR SINCE...ANOTHER FACT

 

[S.J.]

Methinks the majority of us are on board protecting our boarders, national identity , etc..... it's simply a matter of how it's done.....~S~

BS, the left doesn't want secure borders, they want votes. It's as simple as that.

SJ, legal latino's overwhelmingly vote the conservative ticket that is fact

No, it isn't fact. I know plenty of legal latinos and none of them vote Republican.

 

[tigerred59]

Anybody and everybody knows, I hate Trump, but Trump is right guys, he's right. Forget about the wall and all this other bs he talks about, but he's on point, with minimizing immigration. We can't on the one hand whine about the high costs of healthcare in this country and wanting to dismantle anything that helps take care of our people and then whine about illegals not getting the proper health needs they get once in this country. If we're to go on this mantra about people being poor, overwhelmed with violence, threatened, etc...then we must open our borders to every 3rd world country in the world, because everybody got a little misery going on in their lives, latino's are not exclusive to this shit. They do exploit their kids, like this little girl of late, whom they're using as a the poster child for poverty.....in the country less than a few months and the kid speaks better english than our own?????

I'm not saying, lets build the effin wall, I'm not saying let cut immigration all together, what I am saying is the at some point, THE US CAN NOT HOUSE EVERY MISERABLE BASTARD IN THE WORLD WANTING TO COME HERE, WE CAN'T. All these bleeding heart liberals would shit a brick if any of these people moved in their communities and took em over, like they do in poor communities all across this nation. You can't even get a fuckin job in Ca. unless your bi-lingual. And to all these bleeding heart liberals, once in this country, once given citizenship...ITS THE GOP party, these coat tail riding folk cling to in the end, not the democratic party, we're just the one's that bring them to the dance, they leave with a conservative.

All I'm saying is let step back, take a look at the millions that here already, not to mention the thousands waiting to be heard and the millions that will certainly enter this year, lets see what impact once again immigration is having on TAX PAYERS IN THIS COUNTRY, PLEASE!!

I disagree.

We HAVE TO maintain military supremacy over China. To even be close to on par means we can't project our will on Taiwan, whatever islands we think are important over there and any possible threat anyplace.

China already buys more new cars than us. At some point that economy is going to pass ours in a real sense and economies build Space Forces.

Our economy is strung pretty tight since we had that Cold War to win and have been running an economic battle with SE Asia. We do everything we can to pump our real estate values, our stock values and our dollar. One trip in the real estate market/banking system and its almost socialist revolution time. Remember, bad economy = bad military. Ask the USSR.

Where do immigrants come in?

We have hollow inner cities and now suburbs all over the rust belt. Cities own properties in things called "land banks" because no one wants to buy them! They're worthless, abandoned properties that don't sell for back taxes at auctions.

Get them folks over here, make them follow the laws, make them work, make them Americans with homes in downtown Cleveland, Detroit or St Louis or export them to Antarctica for all I care. For all our history every new wave of "different" immigrants was going to be the end of the American Way. Look back at the limits we placed on Japanese or Chinese or thisease or thatease. They all seem soo quaint and wrong now.

Just get them here, make them contribute to our GDP and lets build our spaceforce.

.......and when the shit hits the fans, the economy slows and it will.....lets blame the immigrants. Nice try, tho

I'm not blaming the immigrants.

Check this out:

Its not the best source, but that red bar is the American GDP of Immigrants not natives! We darn near exterminated the natives.

So to be clear,

Immigrants build/built our economy.
We have empty spaces in this country.
People living in downtown St Louis is better than big government owning decaying properties.
Capitalistic supply and DEMAND for real estate is better for property values than any trick of interest rates and mortgage insurance trick Donald or Nancy can come up with.

You clueless moron....
No shit the Indians didn't do it.
Neither did the recent wave of social parasites.

The immigrants you're talking about
Taught themselves, fed themselves and paid their own bills.

You're trying to attach a horse's ass to a pig's head.

Jo

Folks, if this were 1850 we'd be hearing not to let these shanty Irish in from folks like this because the Irish were to criminal and backwards.

If it were 1875 and we would be hearing how it was important to ban the immigration of Chinese women because.....well because I suppose.

All that seems quaint now. Lets learn from history not be on the laughing stock side of it.

Tell that to Trump, will ya? Listen, unlike the Irish and the Chinese, etc...black people in this country suffers the most with illegal immigration. They find solace in our communities, they over whelm social programs and our schools and take jobs that teens once held during the summer months, that's why we have so much violence during the summer, kids got no jobs to go to. Illegals keep wages low, just look at the min. wage, it hasn't moved in decades. I don't want to hate these people, but let the white people who exploit their labor, let them house, clothe, feed and provide and take the strain off of tax payers.

 

[tigerred59]

Methinks the majority of us are on board protecting our boarders, national identity , etc..... it's simply a matter of how it's done.....~S~

BS, the left doesn't want secure borders, they want votes. It's as simple as that.

SJ, legal latino's overwhelmingly vote the conservative ticket that is fact

No, it isn't fact. I know plenty of legal latinos and none of them vote Republican.

And I know plenty that do, next?

 

[DandyDonovan]

Anybody and everybody knows, I hate Trump, but Trump is right guys, he's right. Forget about the wall and all this other bs he talks about, but he's on point, with minimizing immigration. We can't on the one hand whine about the high costs of healthcare in this country and wanting to dismantle anything that helps take care of our people and then whine about illegals not getting the proper health needs they get once in this country. If we're to go on this mantra about people being poor, overwhelmed with violence, threatened, etc...then we must open our borders to every 3rd world country in the world, because everybody got a little misery going on in their lives, latino's are not exclusive to this shit. They do exploit their kids, like this little girl of late, whom they're using as a the poster child for poverty.....in the country less than a few months and the kid speaks better english than our own?????

I'm not saying, lets build the effin wall, I'm not saying let cut immigration all together, what I am saying is the at some point, THE US CAN NOT HOUSE EVERY MISERABLE BASTARD IN THE WORLD WANTING TO COME HERE, WE CAN'T. All these bleeding heart liberals would shit a brick if any of these people moved in their communities and took em over, like they do in poor communities all across this nation. You can't even get a fuckin job in Ca. unless your bi-lingual. And to all these bleeding heart liberals, once in this country, once given citizenship...ITS THE GOP party, these coat tail riding folk cling to in the end, not the democratic party, we're just the one's that bring them to the dance, they leave with a conservative.

All I'm saying is let step back, take a look at the millions that here already, not to mention the thousands waiting to be heard and the millions that will certainly enter this year, lets see what impact once again immigration is having on TAX PAYERS IN THIS COUNTRY, PLEASE!!

Oh please. Both parties have supported border security.

This entire thing is 100% Trump being an asshole.

We should continue to allow immigration & not just freom whiyte countrioes like Trump said.

We should continue to accept refugees.

Bullshit, NEITHER party has supported border security, Trump is forcing the issue.

Yeah okay in 2006 and again in 2013 Congress passed security fence bills and they were signed into law, so where is the security fence? See, the dopes in DC have fooled the dopes (like you) out of DC. It's easy to vote for things you know will never be built. Neither Bush nor Obama ever intended to build that security fence, or seriously increase border security.

That's why the very same assholes who voted yes in 2006 and 2013 (like Chuck Schumer) are suddenly "oh no wall's don't work, it's too expensive, racist, blah blah blah " because they know if they give Trump the money, that wall will be built. And they never wanted it, whether you call it a wall , a fence, perimeter security, or anything else.

YOU WOULD THINK AFTER 9/11 OUR BORDERS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MOST TOP PRIORITY IN THE NATION, YES? THE GOP DID NOTHING UNDER BUSH BECAUSE WALL STREET WASN'T HAVING IT. MORE ILLEGALS WERE DEPORTED UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA THAN ANY ADMINISTRATION PRIOR OR SINCE...ANOTHER FACT

Can you stop yelling and stop with the spittle for just one thread? I mean I gave you kudos for your comments in this thread, the least you could do is return the civility.

It is beyond obvious that neither party wants a secure border, and that Trump is upsetting their apple cart. There is both a reason why the border wall wasn't funded in Trump's first two years, and a reason why it was funded under both Bush II and Obama but never built

As for more deportations under Obama than under previous Presidents. That is slight of hand , it is. Under Obama the Border Patrol started classifying people who were confronted and turned around at the border as deportations. They had never been classified as such before.

If you dig deeper into deportations you see that in terms of actual deportations Obama deported about the same number as Bush before him, and even Trump after him, meaning not very damn many considering how many illegals we suspect there are in this country.

This is clearly an issue where neither party gives a damn what is best for the average American or our country as a whole.

 

[toobfreak]

Anybody and everybody knows, I hate Trump, but Trump is right guys, he's right. Forget about the wall and all this other bs he talks about, but he's on point, with minimizing immigration. We can't on the one hand whine about the high costs of healthcare in this country and wanting to dismantle anything that helps take care of our people and then whine about illegals not getting the proper health needs they get once in this country. If we're to go on this mantra about people being poor, overwhelmed with violence, threatened, etc...then we must open our borders to every 3rd world country in the world, because everybody got a little misery going on in their lives, latino's are not exclusive to this shit. They do exploit their kids, like this little girl of late, whom they're using as a the poster child for poverty.....in the country less than a few months and the kid speaks better english than our own?????

I'm not saying, lets build the effin wall, I'm not saying let cut immigration all together, what I am saying is the at some point, THE US CAN NOT HOUSE EVERY MISERABLE BASTARD IN THE WORLD WANTING TO COME HERE, WE CAN'T. All these bleeding heart liberals would shit a brick if any of these people moved in their communities and took em over, like they do in poor communities all across this nation. You can't even get a fuckin job in Ca. unless your bi-lingual. And to all these bleeding heart liberals, once in this country, once given citizenship...ITS THE GOP party, these coat tail riding folk cling to in the end, not the democratic party, we're just the one's that bring them to the dance, they leave with a conservative.

All I'm saying is let step back, take a look at the millions that here already, not to mention the thousands waiting to be heard and the millions that will certainly enter this year, lets see what impact once again immigration is having on TAX PAYERS IN THIS COUNTRY, PLEASE!!

DAMN, there's hope for you yet.

 

[DandyDonovan]

Anybody and everybody knows, I hate Trump, but Trump is right guys, he's right. Forget about the wall and all this other bs he talks about, but he's on point, with minimizing immigration. We can't on the one hand whine about the high costs of healthcare in this country and wanting to dismantle anything that helps take care of our people and then whine about illegals not getting the proper health needs they get once in this country. If we're to go on this mantra about people being poor, overwhelmed with violence, threatened, etc...then we must open our borders to every 3rd world country in the world, because everybody got a little misery going on in their lives, latino's are not exclusive to this shit. They do exploit their kids, like this little girl of late, whom they're using as a the poster child for poverty.....in the country less than a few months and the kid speaks better english than our own?????

I'm not saying, lets build the effin wall, I'm not saying let cut immigration all together, what I am saying is the at some point, THE US CAN NOT HOUSE EVERY MISERABLE BASTARD IN THE WORLD WANTING TO COME HERE, WE CAN'T. All these bleeding heart liberals would shit a brick if any of these people moved in their communities and took em over, like they do in poor communities all across this nation. You can't even get a fuckin job in Ca. unless your bi-lingual. And to all these bleeding heart liberals, once in this country, once given citizenship...ITS THE GOP party, these coat tail riding folk cling to in the end, not the democratic party, we're just the one's that bring them to the dance, they leave with a conservative.

All I'm saying is let step back, take a look at the millions that here already, not to mention the thousands waiting to be heard and the millions that will certainly enter this year, lets see what impact once again immigration is having on TAX PAYERS IN THIS COUNTRY, PLEASE!!

DAMN, there's hope for you yet.

Don't be like that. Be thankful that the poster is willing to look past his dislike of a particular poster and actually look at the issue. Respond without insults

 

[toobfreak]

Anybody and everybody knows, I hate Trump, but Trump is right guys, he's right. Forget about the wall and all this other bs he talks about, but he's on point, with minimizing immigration. We can't on the one hand whine about the high costs of healthcare in this country and wanting to dismantle anything that helps take care of our people and then whine about illegals not getting the proper health needs they get once in this country. If we're to go on this mantra about people being poor, overwhelmed with violence, threatened, etc...then we must open our borders to every 3rd world country in the world, because everybody got a little misery going on in their lives, latino's are not exclusive to this shit. They do exploit their kids, like this little girl of late, whom they're using as a the poster child for poverty.....in the country less than a few months and the kid speaks better english than our own?????

I'm not saying, lets build the effin wall, I'm not saying let cut immigration all together, what I am saying is the at some point, THE US CAN NOT HOUSE EVERY MISERABLE BASTARD IN THE WORLD WANTING TO COME HERE, WE CAN'T. All these bleeding heart liberals would shit a brick if any of these people moved in their communities and took em over, like they do in poor communities all across this nation. You can't even get a fuckin job in Ca. unless your bi-lingual. And to all these bleeding heart liberals, once in this country, once given citizenship...ITS THE GOP party, these coat tail riding folk cling to in the end, not the democratic party, we're just the one's that bring them to the dance, they leave with a conservative.

All I'm saying is let step back, take a look at the millions that here already, not to mention the thousands waiting to be heard and the millions that will certainly enter this year, lets see what impact once again immigration is having on TAX PAYERS IN THIS COUNTRY, PLEASE!!

DAMN, there's hope for you yet.

Don't be like that. Be thankful that the poster is willing to look past his dislike of a particular poster and actually look at the issue. Respond without insults

You think telling someone there's hope for them is an insult? GET A GRIP ON YOURSELF (not your penis). The best conservatives are made from former liberals that one day get burned by their own ideology and finally wake the fuck up.

 

[justoffal]

I disagree.

We HAVE TO maintain military supremacy over China. To even be close to on par means we can't project our will on Taiwan, whatever islands we think are important over there and any possible threat anyplace.

China already buys more new cars than us. At some point that economy is going to pass ours in a real sense and economies build Space Forces.

Our economy is strung pretty tight since we had that Cold War to win and have been running an economic battle with SE Asia. We do everything we can to pump our real estate values, our stock values and our dollar. One trip in the real estate market/banking system and its almost socialist revolution time. Remember, bad economy = bad military. Ask the USSR.

Where do immigrants come in?

We have hollow inner cities and now suburbs all over the rust belt. Cities own properties in things called "land banks" because no one wants to buy them! They're worthless, abandoned properties that don't sell for back taxes at auctions.

Get them folks over here, make them follow the laws, make them work, make them Americans with homes in downtown Cleveland, Detroit or St Louis or export them to Antarctica for all I care. For all our history every new wave of "different" immigrants was going to be the end of the American Way. Look back at the limits we placed on Japanese or Chinese or thisease or thatease. They all seem soo quaint and wrong now.

Just get them here, make them contribute to our GDP and lets build our spaceforce.

.......and when the shit hits the fans, the economy slows and it will.....lets blame the immigrants. Nice try, tho

I'm not blaming the immigrants.

Check this out:

Its not the best source, but that red bar is the American GDP of Immigrants not natives! We darn near exterminated the natives.

So to be clear,

Immigrants build/built our economy.
We have empty spaces in this country.
People living in downtown St Louis is better than big government owning decaying properties.
Capitalistic supply and DEMAND for real estate is better for property values than any trick of interest rates and mortgage insurance trick Donald or Nancy can come up with.

You clueless moron....
No shit the Indians didn't do it.
Neither did the recent wave of social parasites.

The immigrants you're talking about
Taught themselves, fed themselves and paid their own bills.

You're trying to attach a horse's ass to a pig's head.

Jo

Folks, if this were 1850 we'd be hearing not to let these shanty Irish in from folks like this because the Irish were to criminal and backwards.

If it were 1875 and we would be hearing how it was important to ban the immigration of Chinese women because.....well because I suppose.

All that seems quaint now. Lets learn from history not be on the laughing stock side of it.

Tell that to Trump, will ya? Listen, unlike the Irish and the Chinese, etc...black people in this country suffers the most with illegal immigration. They find solace in our communities, they over whelm social programs and our schools and take jobs that teens once held during the summer months, that's why we have so much violence during the summer, kids got no jobs to go to. Illegals keep wages low, just look at the min. wage, it hasn't moved in decades. I don't want to hate these people, but let the white people who exploit their labor, let them house, clothe, feed and provide and take the strain off of tax payers.

Exxxxxxxactly!

Jo