Medicare, Medicaid, and Medicare

[JakeStarkey]

They do not contribute to the national debt, thus they should not be touched.

 

[initforme]

Go ahead cut em....and watch the lash out.

 

[bornright]

You are right about Medicare. Medicade is a entitlement in which the recipients do not pay into.

 

[SixFoot]

Suppose the economy improves, everyone's wages goes up, and welfare programs get increased funding?

, right?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Peoples standard of living will go way down and we will decline as a nation. Of course, the republican party doesn't care.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are right about Medicare. Medicade is a entitlement in which the recipients do not pay into.

Medicaid is paid for. In no way does it contribute to the national debt. Let's be completely honest, bornright.

 

[initforme]

Social security is one of the greatest things this nation has done. So go ahead get rid of it so tens of millions of people are forced to work for ten bucks an hour. Political suicide. People will not swallow your bullsh$t.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Medicare is not 100% funded by payroll deductions.

In 2014, Medicare covered 53.8 million people: 44.9 million aged 65 and older, and 8.9 million disabled. About 30 percent of these beneficiaries have chosen to enroll in Part C private health plans that contract with Medicare to provide Part A and Part B health services. Total expenditures in 2014 were $613.3 billion, and total income was $599.3 billion,

https://www.cms.gov/research-statis...eports/reportstrustfunds/downloads/tr2015.pdf

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You are right about Medicare. Medicade is a entitlement in which the recipients do not pay into.

Medicaid is paid for. In no way does it contribute to the national debt. Let's be completely honest, bornright.

Medicaid is paid for.

Sure, just like the military is paid for.

In no way does it contribute to the national debt.

Except that it does.


Medicaid in the United States is a social health care program for families and individuals with limited resources. The Health Insurance Association of America describes Medicaid as a "government insurance program for persons of all ages whose income and resources are insufficient to pay for health care".[1] Medicaid is the largest source of funding for medical and health-related services for people with low income in the United States. It is a means-tested program that is jointly funded by the state and federal governments and managed by the states,[2] with each state currently having broad leeway to determine who is eligible for its implementation of the program. States are not required to participate in the program, although all have since 1982. Medicaid recipients must be U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents, and may include low-income adults, their children, and people with certain disabilities. Poverty alone does not necessarily qualify someone for Medicaid.


Let's be completely honest,

Sounds good.
Repeat after me, Medicaid contributes to the national debt (and the debt of the states).

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You are right about Medicare. Medicade is a entitlement in which the recipients do not pay into.

Medicaid is paid for. In no way does it contribute to the national debt. Let's be completely honest, bornright.

Okay, then who pays for it?

 

[Spare_change]

You are right about Medicare. Medicade is a entitlement in which the recipients do not pay into.

Medicaid is paid for. In no way does it contribute to the national debt. Let's be completely honest, bornright.

Not exactly ---- well, hell, not even close.

Medicaid is jointly funded by tax dollars from the state and federal governments. The pro-rata determination is based on things such as percentage of recipients, average salary, etc.

But, the point is ---- both are paid by tax dollars. Use of tax dollars - for anything - contributes to the deficit.

 

[sartre play]

Don't care who pays for it. we need to keep it.

 

[Spare_change]

Don't care who pays for it. we need to keep it.

Spoken like somebody who doesn't pay for it.

 

[sartre play]

I paid & am still paying. because it's the right thing to do. thanks for your magic eight ball. NOT. that knows about my income& taxes.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The far right idiots are talking . . . idiotically again. OK, you have given up the medicare argument, so you are only partially idiotic.

No one has shown any link between medicaid spending and the national debt. Try again.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The far right idiots are talking . . . idiotically again. OK, you have given up the medicare argument, so you are only partially idiotic.

No one has shown any link between medicaid spending and the national debt. Try again.

No one has shown any link between medicaid spending and the national debt.

Every dollar of Federal Medicaid spending was an added dollar of debt.

Medicaid expenditures do not include administrative costs, accounting adjustments, or the U.S. Territories. Total Medicaid spending including these additional items was $552.0 billion in FY 2015.

Total Medicaid Spending

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The far right idiots are talking . . . idiotically again. OK, you have given up the medicare argument, so you are only partially idiotic.

No one has shown any link between medicaid spending and the national debt. Try again.

Any federal spending (medicaid or otherwise) adds to the debt. You can't say that military spending adds to the debt and Medicaid doesn't! They are all costs to the federal government and they are paid with federal tax dollars.

Medicaid alone has many states in the red. For most states, Medicaid is their largest expenditure.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Aw, the poor little conservative alt righties are concerned with the debt, budget, and deficit when it comes to the poor and their health, but are quite willing to expand a government and spend even more than Obama.

You pitiful freeks.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Aw, the poor little conservative alt righties are concerned with the debt, budget, and deficit when it comes to the poor and their health, but are quite willing to expand a government and spend even more than Obama.

You pitiful freeks.

So who's spending more than Obama? He isn't even out of office just yet. And the Republicans in Congress have been lowering our deficit since they took over.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Aw, the poor little conservative alt righties are concerned with the debt, budget, and deficit when it comes to the poor and their health, but are quite willing to expand a government and spend even more than Obama.

You pitiful freeks.

So who's spending more than Obama? He isn't even out of office just yet. And the Republicans in Congress have been lowering our deficit since they took over.

Yup, not even in office yet, and already breaking promises to the far right and getting ready to spend, spend, spend, and break the GOP/Dem agreement on lowering the deficit. You picked a loser.