Men in women's bathrooms

[Jack4jill]

It's happening as we speak. I don't like what NC did with HB2 and I don't like what Obama did with the school mandate. Courts and law makers are now involved with both sides so let the games begin

OK.

Game #1: Define what a "transgender woman" is in precise legal terms to justify letting these men behind doors marked "women"; and why we must force women to accept them behind doors marked "women". Game #1 is for the DOJ and the LGBT cult (same thing) to produce clarification for the American public on how "men are actually women".

Go.

In legal terms? 1. A person identified at birth as either male or female who at some point in the future rejects their assigned or anatomical sex for the opposite. 2. A person transitioning from one sex to the other.

1. How were they identified at birth as a male or female? Can they also legally reject the race they were born as? Can they reject being human too or is this just limited to rejecting one's physical sex? And if distinctly different, how; if the sole means of determining reality is the subjective layman's opinion of himself as patient?

2. A person cannot transition from one sex to the other. He can mutilate himself. He can do tons of plastic surgery, take carcinogenic hormones, but he'll never be a female. Ever. Just a mutilated halfling. Statistically depressed and still suicidal.

Your recipe for curing mental illness by attacking the human body is not society's mandate to enable "as normal". I feel for these people you're misleading. I really do. But once misled, we are under no obligation to oblige their self-diagnosis and 'treatments".

Not science.

Also, not true.

 

[ChrisL]

Would you let him dress and act like a girl if it seemed to help with his issues?

You know how kids are acting when they don't get what they want.

Thankfully, I don't have those issues with my child. He is definitely all boy. Lol. If my boy that messed up about his gender, I would like to think I would have him in therapy pronto.

Transgender kids always get therapy. It's part of the process.

Therapy from a "gender specialist" and NOT a psychiatrist.

What is a gender specialist? Are they licensed?

Did you watch my video about Boomer yet? Watch it so you can understand people dogs.

 

[Ame®icano]

I don't think you are a pervert. I think you are just a slave to your ideology.

Aren't we all

Nope! I don't have a liberal or conservative ideology. I agree with and disagree with views from both because I am an independent thinker.

You're conservative, but you're afraid to admit it or accept it because of all the PC police. I just don't get why do you care about them?

 

[ChrisL]

I don't think you are a pervert. I think you are just a slave to your ideology.

Aren't we all

Nope! I don't have a liberal or conservative ideology. I agree with and disagree with views from both because I am an independent thinker.

You're conservative, but you're afraid to admit it or accept it because of all the PC police. I just don't get why do you care about them?

I'm not a conservative. There are plenty of things I disagree with when it comes to conservative ideology. I'm a moderate or maybe a centrist.

 

[Ame®icano]

I don't think you are a pervert. I think you are just a slave to your ideology.

Aren't we all

Nope! I don't have a liberal or conservative ideology. I agree with and disagree with views from both because I am an independent thinker.

You're conservative, but you're afraid to admit it or accept it because of all the PC police. I just don't get why do you care about them?

I'm not a conservative. There are plenty of things I disagree with when it comes to conservative ideology. I'm a moderate or maybe a centrist.

It's OK to be horny.

 

[ChrisL]

I don't think you are a pervert. I think you are just a slave to your ideology.

Aren't we all

Nope! I don't have a liberal or conservative ideology. I agree with and disagree with views from both because I am an independent thinker.

You're conservative, but you're afraid to admit it or accept it because of all the PC police. I just don't get why do you care about them?

I'm not a conservative. There are plenty of things I disagree with when it comes to conservative ideology. I'm a moderate or maybe a centrist.

It's OK to be horny.

What does that have to do with anything? That's besides the point.

 

[deltex1]

No I will continue to bring up the 17 million rape victims' place in this debate. Nothing has been disproven about their expected angst showering next to any strange men behind doors marked "women"..

There is nothing complicated about that. It isn't happening.

It's a valid concern that applies to some woman who are victims of rape and abuse that have anxiety about transgenders in the bathroom. That is a fair argument.

What percentage of the 17 million + rape survivors would you say are "in favor" of men-pretending-to-be-women using their communal restrooms, showers, locker rooms or dorms? (Remember, there is no legal way for them to protest ANY man in there claiming he feels like a woman inside).

Go.

I have no clue what percentage and I'm not going to pretend to. I just know there are supporters and opposers on both sides. Can you recognize that?

As for the legal process, well that's what the discussion is about. Setting standards. I've laid out a bunch of ideas. I'd actually support taking a pretty strict approach... But whatever we do, there is going to have to be considerations made to both sides.

How about this? If they have a penis, they go to the men's room? Is that unreasonable?

That is reasonable. Cut your dick off...you have standing.

 

[ChrisL]

No I will continue to bring up the 17 million rape victims' place in this debate. Nothing has been disproven about their expected angst showering next to any strange men behind doors marked "women"..

There is nothing complicated about that. It isn't happening.

It's a valid concern that applies to some woman who are victims of rape and abuse that have anxiety about transgenders in the bathroom. That is a fair argument.

What percentage of the 17 million + rape survivors would you say are "in favor" of men-pretending-to-be-women using their communal restrooms, showers, locker rooms or dorms? (Remember, there is no legal way for them to protest ANY man in there claiming he feels like a woman inside).

Go.

I have no clue what percentage and I'm not going to pretend to. I just know there are supporters and opposers on both sides. Can you recognize that?

As for the legal process, well that's what the discussion is about. Setting standards. I've laid out a bunch of ideas. I'd actually support taking a pretty strict approach... But whatever we do, there is going to have to be considerations made to both sides.

How about this? If they have a penis, they go to the men's room? Is that unreasonable?

That is reasonable. Cut your dick off...you have standing.

Saying it like that . . . ewww. I think to do that IS a mental illness. How can that be denied?

 

[Ame®icano]

What does that have to do with anything? That's besides the point.

Oh yeah, it does. Long story short...

You say you're moderate centrist. Like "undecided" of some sort. If you say you're horny, you'll offend feminazis and be labeled as women hater. The same ones demand today that you reject what woman is and accept what is not. It has nothing to do with equal rights but about making you feel bad about yourself. I say, there is nothing bad about it.

 

[ChrisL]

Oh yeah, it does. Long story short...

You say you're moderate centrist. Like "undecided" of some sort. If you say you're horny, you'll offend feminazis and be labeled as women hater. The same ones demand today that you reject what woman is and accept what is not. It has nothing to do with equal rights but about making you feel bad about yourself. I say, there is nothing bad about it.

I don't feel bad about myself at all. Lol.

 

[ChrisL]

What does that have to do with anything? That's besides the point.

Oh yeah, it does. Long story short...

You say you're moderate centrist. Like "undecided" of some sort. If you say you're horny, you'll offend feminazis and be labeled as women hater. The same ones demand today that you reject what woman is and accept what is not. It has nothing to do with equal rights but about making you feel bad about yourself. I say, there is nothing bad about it.

You messed up the quotes!

 

[Slade3200]

Making him into a . . . "something undefined" permanently is NOT the right solution, of this I am sure.

Would you let him dress and act like a girl if it seemed to help with his issues?

You know how kids are acting when they don't get what they want.

Thankfully, I don't have those issues with my child. He is definitely all boy. Lol. If my boy that messed up about his gender, I would like to think I would have him in therapy pronto.

I was answering his question that relate to the video he posted. I suspect there was lot of unknown there. The way I saw it, that boy started acting weird when they adopted little girl and she got all the attention.

Why am I saying that? My older daughter went nutz when she realized that she's gonna have little sister.

Yes, the need for attention is very common amoungst children, and hopefully something that therapy and or good parenting can help fix. I'm not an advocate for enabling a child to transition, however all cases are different and it can also be very damaging to ignore or reject a child's feelings. Leads to suicide in many cases

 

[Bob Blaylock]

364 pages of idiots trying to solve an issue and the issue isn't even an issue unless you're too damn stupid to make a choice.

Why does it matter how many pages are there? My forum settings shows 74 pages... Your "364 pages" argument sounds like "it's current year" argument, that lefties use when they know they've lost and they're ready to walk away. You don't like it, walk away...

Somewhere in your account settings, there's one for how many posts per page. Therefore, referring to the number of pages in a thread, or to a specific page number, is meaningless, to someone who has that set differently than you do.

I'm set to 100 posts per page, and for me, this thread currently shows as having 38 pages. I have Tapatalk set, on my phone, for only ten posts per page, so this same thread viewed that way, would be about 380 pages.

 

[Slade3200]

That goes t

Seriously though, where do you draw the line on what you will NOT accept as normal? Anywhere?

This is the heart of the argument. People don't like to be told what's normal as everybody's "normal" is different.

 

[ChrisL]

Making him into a . . . "something undefined" permanently is NOT the right solution, of this I am sure.

Would you let him dress and act like a girl if it seemed to help with his issues?

You know how kids are acting when they don't get what they want.

Thankfully, I don't have those issues with my child. He is definitely all boy. Lol. If my boy that messed up about his gender, I would like to think I would have him in therapy pronto.

I was answering his question that relate to the video he posted. I suspect there was lot of unknown there. The way I saw it, that boy started acting weird when they adopted little girl and she got all the attention.

Why am I saying that? My older daughter went nutz when she realized that she's gonna have little sister.

Yes, the need for attention is very common amoungst children, and hopefully something that therapy and or good parenting can help fix. I'm not an advocate for enabling a child to transition, however all cases are different and it can also be very damaging to ignore or reject a child's feelings. Leads to suicide in many cases

But . . . some people aren't very good parents. They would not take their kid to therapy either. Some people don't have very good parents or childhoods.

 

[ChrisL]

That goes t

Seriously though, where do you draw the line on what you will NOT accept as normal? Anywhere?

This is the heart of the argument. People don't like to be told what's normal as everybody's "normal" is different.

I asked a specific question. Care to answer it? I'm sure everyone has a line as to what is acceptable.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

This push for sharing restrooms did not come from normal women, since no normal women wants to be forced share restroom with opposite sex. If we look where the push comes from, we'll get many answers to our questions, and a solution as well.

Yes, like that guy from North Carolina, behind the pro-pervert movement there, who turns out to be a convicted sex offender. It's no surprise that sexual predators would be in favor if this madness.

 

[ChrisL]

That goes t

Seriously though, where do you draw the line on what you will NOT accept as normal? Anywhere?

This is the heart of the argument. People don't like to be told what's normal as everybody's "normal" is different.

And some people like to pretend that they are so righteous too.

 

[ChrisL]

That goes t

Seriously though, where do you draw the line on what you will NOT accept as normal? Anywhere?

This is the heart of the argument. People don't like to be told what's normal as everybody's "normal" is different.

How would you feel if your son or daughter was dating a transgendered person?

 

[Jack4jill]

This push for sharing restrooms did not come from normal women, since no normal women wants to be forced share restroom with opposite sex. If we look where the push comes from, we'll get many answers to our questions, and a solution as well.

Yes, like that guy from North Carolina, behind the pro-pervert movement there, who turns out to be a convicted sex offender. It's no surprise that sexual predators would be in favor if this madness.

What does that make the anti-gay pastor, recently found with a large stash of kiddie porn, a saint?