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Now this is just stupid Emily. Rethink your position. The confederacy, Cinco De Mayo and Kwanzaa have zero in common. So do you want to celebrate ISIS month? Because that is more applicable to the confederacy.So Cinco de Mayo should not be celebrated? IM2 if people want to celebrate Kwanzaa or Hanukkha, they should be able to as individuals. If the state is going to endorse or recognize an event, there should be some way to satisfy and represent public interests and objections. If it violates the beliefs of citizens, those issues should be resolved first.Thank you Mississippi for not erasing American history like many other states have done. ...
Hate to break it to you, but the confederacy seceded from the US and formed its own country. So it is not US history that will be celebrated.
Jtss knows nothing about black history andFrederick Douglass Booker T. Washington Martha Luther King, were all RepublicansRepublicans have never changed, and the left, democrats, Dixiecrats, have never changed.. and can be proven easily..
As for the Republicans, their Lily White movement within the party started in Texas immediately after the civil war.
I'm not an expert on black history. Would make sense to me though that F. Douglas and B.T. Washington were Republicans. A book I read a few years ago that I found very interesting is Beale Street Dynasty, about the South's first black millionaire, Robert Church Sr (1839-1912). He was a Republican also.
As for MLK, I've read that while a good portion of blacks switched to the Democrats during FDR's presidency, Barry Goldwater drove most of what was left over to the Democratic side and that MLK got the vote out for LBJ.
About the only thing I take issue with you is the statement that slavery had nothing to do with the civil war and wondering which parties you believe represented the left and right back in the election of 1860 as you say things haven't changed?
Otherwise, towards all here, I'm still confused with what Confederate Heritage is all about and why the distinction is drawn from a more inclusive Southern Heritage?
The republican plan was to free the slaves then ship them back to Africa or South America. Republicans also ended reconstruction with the 1876 Compromise. Seems these fact escape republicans in here.
Our nation spilled so much blood, hundreds of thousands of lives, and we have spent hundreds of billions of USD providing welfare assistance to minority communities that if they still think we are racist against them, I dont really give a fuck any more. They are now gaming us for more free shit now, to hell with all of them that still play that race card.
Shut the fuck up idiot. Africa had cities, universities and everything else while whitey was dying from the bubonic ratfest.There was once a thread on here and some right wing lunatic claimed black people should be thanking white people for slavery.Well when you stop lying about history, then you can understand..Every confederate civil war group I follow on Facebook pays respect to blacks like I never seen before. They honor black soldiers men and women. It’s the complete opposite of how democrats talk about southern confederates
How in the hell do you pay respect to someone you enslaved, raped, maimed, dehumanized and murdered. It would be like saying Nazis pay respect to Jewish folks who suffered in the Holocaust.
The liar is you Trump Humper, I guess next you are going to tell us that the Confederacy treated their slaves great.
I kid you not.
Each and every negro in the USA whose ancestors were brought here as slaves should get down on his/her knees and give thanks each and every day for that fortuitous event. Otherwise, they would still be in the steaming, fetid jungles of Africa, dying of malaria, Ebola, AIDS, malnutrition and countless other maladies, subsisting on bushmeat and grass soup.
Got it?
That's a lie. try again. Maybe you go look at government policies during the 20th, all of them before you speak.Our nation spilled so much blood, hundreds of thousands of lives, and we have spent hundreds of billions of USD providing welfare assistance to minority communities that if they still think we are racist against them, I dont really give a fuck any more. They are now gaming us for more free shit now, to hell with all of them that still play that race card.
There was once a thread on here and some right wing lunatic claimed black people should be thanking white people for slavery.Well when you stop lying about history, then you can understand..Every confederate civil war group I follow on Facebook pays respect to blacks like I never seen before. They honor black soldiers men and women. It’s the complete opposite of how democrats talk about southern confederates
How in the hell do you pay respect to someone you enslaved, raped, maimed, dehumanized and murdered. It would be like saying Nazis pay respect to Jewish folks who suffered in the Holocaust.
The liar is you Trump Humper, I guess next you are going to tell us that the Confederacy treated their slaves great.
I kid you not.
Each and every negro in the USA whose ancestors were brought here as slaves should get down on his/her knees and give thanks each and every day for that fortuitous event. Otherwise, they would still be in the steaming, fetid jungles of Africa, dying of malaria, Ebola, AIDS, malnutrition and countless other maladies, subsisting on bushmeat and grass soup.
Got it?
Racist like you need to move to Siberia, where it's lily white and no black folks.
Racists such as you need to move to Burkina Faso, where it's coal black and no white folks.
Got it?
I am not spreading racist bullshit like you and the fools giving you the likes.
If you are a liberal, you are a racist, through and through.
That's Psychology 101, which you obviously bypassed, probably due to the fact you were shooting up heroin in the bathroom during that class.
Let me know when you have something other than that bullshit racist propaganda.
Mirabeau deals in FACTS.
The FACT that you do not recognize that indicates that you possess a low IQ or are a victim of a ghetto "education." Actually, both are probably true.
The only FACT you deal in, is the FACT that you are a racist POS.
Ahh . . . yes. When one cannot engage in learned debate with Mirabeau, the only recourse is to hurriedly retreat to the old, mildewed, tattered, Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton/Maxine Waters playbook, and call the learned, erudite Mirabeau a "racist."
Does that make you proud?
(Watch this, folks!)
Which day will be lynching day?
Lynching and the Confederacy are two distinct historical events. Obviously you can honor one, without honoring the other.
D'uh.
No you can't, because they are one and the same. Who made up the Confederacy? The same racist who raping, maiming, beating and murdering black folks. Duh.
Wow. That is completely ignorant of you.
The Confederacy was a regional (the south) government of states that rebelled against the National government.
Lynching was mob attacks on people for various reasons from informal law enforcement to racial terrorism, that was found though out the nation as as whole, not limited to the South.
TO say they are the same thing is just a... oh, right.
You are lying. Sorry, and I'm the guy that started the thread the Lesson of Charlottessville.
Yeah, your lie is dismissed.
My point stands.
Lynching and the Confederacy are two distinct historical events. Obviously you can honor one, without honoring the other.
D'uh.
What people made up the Confederacy? People that had just come over from Europe.
No, they weren't.
There is nothing wrong with Southern's having some regional pride. It was over 150 years ago, why do you care?
What is the pride in owner another human being, what pride do you take in treating another human as less than human, what is the pride in inventing the KKK and before you start whining about they weren't Southern that's bullshit.
I've never heard or seen any Southern who celebrate his regional pride, by mentioning any of those things.
You ever hear this song? Not one mention of slavery or the Klan. Funny how they seem to pick and choose. Like everyone else does. And you are living in a fantasy land.
Speaking of picking and choosing, all those things are a LARGE part of their history. So what part of Southern history should black folks celebrate since we were a huge part of that history.
You should celebrate the slave markets, without which the vast majority of negroes would never have made it to the New World.
NEXT QUESTION!
Looks like we got us a new racist troll
FACTS are NEVER "racist."
This FACT has been brought to you free of charge by the great Mirabeau.
But these new 'reverse racists' are all about assigning racial guilt onto whites so they can use it in rhetorical justification for more laws and programs that discriminate against whites and Asians.I've never met any white, who feels actual shame over something done by other people, long ago.
That is the whole point; being the rhetorical engine to pass out racial privilege and discrimination.
Our nation spilled so much blood, hundreds of thousands of lives, and we have spent hundreds of billions of USD providing welfare assistance to minority communities that if they still think we are racist against them, I dont really give a fuck any more. They are now gaming us for more free shit now, to hell with all of them that still play that race card.
Would you rather be getting raped by an elephant? Hello?There was once a thread on here and some right wing lunatic claimed black people should be thanking white people for slavery.Well when you stop lying about history, then you can understand..Every confederate civil war group I follow on Facebook pays respect to blacks like I never seen before. They honor black soldiers men and women. It’s the complete opposite of how democrats talk about southern confederates
How in the hell do you pay respect to someone you enslaved, raped, maimed, dehumanized and murdered. It would be like saying Nazis pay respect to Jewish folks who suffered in the Holocaust.
The liar is you Trump Humper, I guess next you are going to tell us that the Confederacy treated their slaves great.
I kid you not.
Each and every negro in the USA whose ancestors were brought here as slaves should get down on his/her knees and give thanks each and every day for that fortuitous event. Otherwise, they would still be in the steaming, fetid jungles of Africa, dying of malaria, Ebola, AIDS, malnutrition and countless other maladies, subsisting on bushmeat and grass soup.
Got it?
Racist like you need to move to Siberia, where it's lily white and no black folks.
Racists such as you need to move to Burkina Faso, where it's coal black and no white folks.
Got it?
I am not spreading racist bullshit like you and the fools giving you the likes.
If you are a liberal, you are a racist, through and through.
That's Psychology 101, which you obviously bypassed, probably due to the fact you were shooting up heroin in the bathroom during that class.
Let me know when you have something other than that bullshit racist propaganda.
Mirabeau deals in FACTS.
The FACT that you do not recognize that indicates that you possess a low IQ or are a victim of a ghetto "education." Actually, both are probably true.
The only FACT you deal in, is the FACT that you are a racist POS.
Ahh . . . yes. When one cannot engage in learned debate with Mirabeau, the only recourse is to hurriedly retreat to the old, mildewed, tattered, Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton/Maxine Waters playbook, and call the learned, erudite Mirabeau a "racist."
Does that make you proud?
(Watch this, folks!)
Learned debate, you're spewing racist bullshit. Why would any black person be happy about the torture, raping, brutalization and murder that our ancestors had to endure. Your whole premise is asinine.
Which day will be lynching day?
Lynching and the Confederacy are two distinct historical events. Obviously you can honor one, without honoring the other.
D'uh.
No you can't, because they are one and the same. Who made up the Confederacy? The same racist who raping, maiming, beating and murdering black folks. Duh.
Wow. That is completely ignorant of you.
The Confederacy was a regional (the south) government of states that rebelled against the National government.
Lynching was mob attacks on people for various reasons from informal law enforcement to racial terrorism, that was found though out the nation as as whole, not limited to the South.
TO say they are the same thing is just a... oh, right.
You are lying. Sorry, and I'm the guy that started the thread the Lesson of Charlottessville.
Yeah, your lie is dismissed.
My point stands.
Lynching and the Confederacy are two distinct historical events. Obviously you can honor one, without honoring the other.
D'uh.
What people made up the Confederacy? People that had just come over from Europe.
No, they weren't.
There is nothing wrong with Southern's having some regional pride. It was over 150 years ago, why do you care?
What is the pride in owner another human being, what pride do you take in treating another human as less than human, what is the pride in inventing the KKK and before you start whining about they weren't Southern that's bullshit.
I've never heard or seen any Southern who celebrate his regional pride, by mentioning any of those things.
You ever hear this song? Not one mention of slavery or the Klan. Funny how they seem to pick and choose. Like everyone else does. And you are living in a fantasy land.
Speaking of picking and choosing, all those things are a LARGE part of their history.
So what part of Southern history should black folks celebrate since we were a huge part of that history.
Which day will be lynching day?
Lynching and the Confederacy are two distinct historical events. Obviously you can honor one, without honoring the other.
D'uh.
No you can't, because they are one and the same. Who made up the Confederacy? The same racist who raping, maiming, beating and murdering black folks. Duh.
Wow. That is completely ignorant of you.
The Confederacy was a regional (the south) government of states that rebelled against the National government.
Lynching was mob attacks on people for various reasons from informal law enforcement to racial terrorism, that was found though out the nation as as whole, not limited to the South.
TO say they are the same thing is just a... oh, right.
You are lying. Sorry, and I'm the guy that started the thread the Lesson of Charlottessville.
Yeah, your lie is dismissed.
My point stands.
Lynching and the Confederacy are two distinct historical events. Obviously you can honor one, without honoring the other.
D'uh.
What people made up the Confederacy? People that had just come over from Europe.
No, they weren't.
There is nothing wrong with Southern's having some regional pride. It was over 150 years ago, why do you care?
What is the pride in owner another human being, what pride do you take in treating another human as less than human, what is the pride in inventing the KKK and before you start whining about they weren't Southern that's bullshit.
I've never heard or seen any Southern who celebrate his regional pride, by mentioning any of those things.
You ever hear this song? Not one mention of slavery or the Klan. Funny how they seem to pick and choose. Like everyone else does. And you are living in a fantasy land.
Speaking of picking and choosing, all those things are a LARGE part of their history. So what part of Southern history should black folks celebrate since we were a huge part of that history.
You should celebrate the slave markets, without which the vast majority of negroes would never have made it to the New World.
NEXT QUESTION!
Looks like we got us a new racist troll
FACTS are NEVER "racist."
This FACT has been brought to you free of charge by the great Mirabeau.
Hate newbies trying to prove themselves
This troll won’t last long
That's all you've got????
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You ever hear this song? Not one mention of slavery or the Klan...
This is a truly moving song — precisely because it is about the suffering of a working man and his family stuck in the middle of the Civil War, who did NOT have slaves. That does not change the fact that defense of slavery was the fundamental cause of the Confederate rebellion.
This song was written and made famous by a Canadian musician, whose mother was of Native American heritage, and the excellent group, “The Band,” was working with Bob Dylan at the time. Joan Baez also did a fine version of the song. It celebrates our common humanity, not the Confederacy.
To be sure, like “Gone With the Wind,” this song is the product of an American culture that treats our history primarily through a white prism.
The Union cavalry officer George Stoneman, who “tore up the tracks again,” later took over responsibility for governing the swollen and divided population of Memphis, Tennessee. After three days of white rioting against freedmen in 1866 resulted in many black deaths and the destruction of all the black churches in the city (and after similar white riots against black soldiers in New Orleans), Radical Reconstruction forces in Congress were (temporarily) strengthened. This helped pass crucial post-war Amendments that were supposed to guarantee that all African-Americans would never be enslaved again, and that they would have equal rights as citizens. But Memphis blacks were already “put in their place” and most were driven out of Memphis, never to return. Elsewhere in the South bitterness and white racism festered, and anti-black terrorism grew, until it was institutionalized under Jim Crow.
So, behind a beautiful Canadian song sadly invoking a mythical “Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” ... was real, ugly, tragic American history.
Which day will be lynching day?
Lynching and the Confederacy are two distinct historical events. Obviously you can honor one, without honoring the other.
D'uh.
No you can't, because they are one and the same. Who made up the Confederacy? The same racist who raping, maiming, beating and murdering black folks. Duh.
Wow. That is completely ignorant of you.
The Confederacy was a regional (the south) government of states that rebelled against the National government.
Lynching was mob attacks on people for various reasons from informal law enforcement to racial terrorism, that was found though out the nation as as whole, not limited to the South.
TO say they are the same thing is just a... oh, right.
You are lying. Sorry, and I'm the guy that started the thread the Lesson of Charlottessville.
Yeah, your lie is dismissed.
My point stands.
Lynching and the Confederacy are two distinct historical events. Obviously you can honor one, without honoring the other.
D'uh.
What people made up the Confederacy? People that had just come over from Europe.
No, they weren't.
There is nothing wrong with Southern's having some regional pride. It was over 150 years ago, why do you care?
What is the pride in owner another human being, what pride do you take in treating another human as less than human, what is the pride in inventing the KKK and before you start whining about they weren't Southern that's bullshit.
I've never heard or seen any Southern who celebrate his regional pride, by mentioning any of those things.
You ever hear this song? Not one mention of slavery or the Klan. Funny how they seem to pick and choose. Like everyone else does. And you are living in a fantasy land.
Speaking of picking and choosing, all those things are a LARGE part of their history. So what part of Southern history should black folks celebrate since we were a huge part of that history.
You should celebrate the slave markets, without which the vast majority of negroes would never have made it to the New World.
NEXT QUESTION!
Looks like we got us a new racist troll
Which day will be lynching day?
Lynching and the Confederacy are two distinct historical events. Obviously you can honor one, without honoring the other.
D'uh.
No you can't, because they are one and the same. Who made up the Confederacy? The same racist who raping, maiming, beating and murdering black folks. Duh.
Wow. That is completely ignorant of you.
The Confederacy was a regional (the south) government of states that rebelled against the National government.
Lynching was mob attacks on people for various reasons from informal law enforcement to racial terrorism, that was found though out the nation as as whole, not limited to the South.
TO say they are the same thing is just a... oh, right.
You are lying. Sorry, and I'm the guy that started the thread the Lesson of Charlottessville.
Yeah, your lie is dismissed.
My point stands.
Lynching and the Confederacy are two distinct historical events. Obviously you can honor one, without honoring the other.
D'uh.
What people made up the Confederacy? People that had just come over from Europe.
No, they weren't.
There is nothing wrong with Southern's having some regional pride. It was over 150 years ago, why do you care?
What is the pride in owner another human being, what pride do you take in treating another human as less than human, what is the pride in inventing the KKK and before you start whining about they weren't Southern that's bullshit.
I've never heard or seen any Southern who celebrate his regional pride, by mentioning any of those things.
You ever hear this song? Not one mention of slavery or the Klan. Funny how they seem to pick and choose. Like everyone else does. And you are living in a fantasy land.
Speaking of picking and choosing, all those things are a LARGE part of their history. So what part of Southern history should black folks celebrate since we were a huge part of that history.
You should celebrate the slave markets, without which the vast majority of negroes would never have made it to the New World.
NEXT QUESTION!
Looks like we got us a new racist troll
FACTS are NEVER "racist."
This FACT has been brought to you free of charge by the great Mirabeau.
Hate newbies trying to prove themselves
This troll won’t last long
Which day will be lynching day?
Lynching and the Confederacy are two distinct historical events. Obviously you can honor one, without honoring the other.
D'uh.
No you can't, because they are one and the same. Who made up the Confederacy? The same racist who raping, maiming, beating and murdering black folks. Duh.
Wow. That is completely ignorant of you.
The Confederacy was a regional (the south) government of states that rebelled against the National government.
Lynching was mob attacks on people for various reasons from informal law enforcement to racial terrorism, that was found though out the nation as as whole, not limited to the South.
TO say they are the same thing is just a... oh, right.
You are lying. Sorry, and I'm the guy that started the thread the Lesson of Charlottessville.
Yeah, your lie is dismissed.
My point stands.
Lynching and the Confederacy are two distinct historical events. Obviously you can honor one, without honoring the other.
D'uh.
What people made up the Confederacy? People that had just come over from Europe.
No, they weren't.
There is nothing wrong with Southern's having some regional pride. It was over 150 years ago, why do you care?
What is the pride in owner another human being, what pride do you take in treating another human as less than human, what is the pride in inventing the KKK and before you start whining about they weren't Southern that's bullshit.
I've never heard or seen any Southern who celebrate his regional pride, by mentioning any of those things.
You ever hear this song? Not one mention of slavery or the Klan. Funny how they seem to pick and choose. Like everyone else does. And you are living in a fantasy land.
Speaking of picking and choosing, all those things are a LARGE part of their history. So what part of Southern history should black folks celebrate since we were a huge part of that history.
You should celebrate the slave markets, without which the vast majority of negroes would never have made it to the New World.
NEXT QUESTION!
Looks like we got us a new racist troll
Said the man that can't tell the truth about the word "not".