Brain357
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Really? The feds are going to talk bad budgets? The idiots with the tax cuts that were going to pay for themselves that got us trillion dollar deficits?
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Really? The feds are going to talk bad budgets? The idiots with the tax cuts that were going to pay for themselves that got us trillion dollar deficits?
Has Stevo taken a look at the federal budget lately? Talk about badly managed.
We gotta stop being at each other's throats all the time.Red states are populated by obese losers who don’t make much money and don’t pay much in taxes.
If they're so rich, why do they need money?Gee, the blue states pay in much more than the rather pathetic and incredibly sad red states; the blob is going to run up multiple trillions more in debt if that is the case.
To conservatives, Blue States are always there as a cash cow.It is confusing but I believe you. Sorry if I misinterpretedAre social security and medicare really for freeloaders? They are not free to the individual. You do know that you pay for this benefit, yes?There should be no additional aid to those states that already receive more federal aid than they pay in taxes.
They are already freeloaders
Start with Kentucky
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So you consider Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid "Free loaders". I thought progressives were all for these types of programs. Wow.
No - they are not freeloaders. I didn't say that. Re-read.
It's not confusing to me. It must be confusing to you because you are going through what is called "cognitive dissonance". It's extremely difficult, confusing and makes one uncomfortable. You want to believe that Blue states are all that, but then you can't fit your head around that it is a good thing that other people in other states that are richer are putting more into the pie than those that are poor and more unfortunate. It kills your argument about Blue states - blah, blah, blah..... because you're supposed to be for the poor and unfortunate.
Maybe, just maybe, you should not side with that Blue state Red state fallacy - ditch it - abhore it- and all will be right.
But when Blue States are the ones needing assistance, they look the other way
To conservatives, Blue States are always there as a cash cow.It is confusing but I believe you. Sorry if I misinterpretedAre social security and medicare really for freeloaders? They are not free to the individual. You do know that you pay for this benefit, yes?There should be no additional aid to those states that already receive more federal aid than they pay in taxes.
They are already freeloaders
Start with Kentucky
View attachment 329595
So you consider Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid "Free loaders". I thought progressives were all for these types of programs. Wow.
No - they are not freeloaders. I didn't say that. Re-read.
It's not confusing to me. It must be confusing to you because you are going through what is called "cognitive dissonance". It's extremely difficult, confusing and makes one uncomfortable. You want to believe that Blue states are all that, but then you can't fit your head around that it is a good thing that other people in other states that are richer are putting more into the pie than those that are poor and more unfortunate. It kills your argument about Blue states - blah, blah, blah..... because you're supposed to be for the poor and unfortunate.
Maybe, just maybe, you should not side with that Blue state Red state fallacy - ditch it - abhore it- and all will be right.
But when Blue States are the ones needing assistance, they look the other way
I prefer limousine liberal.Red states are populated by obese losers who don’t make much money and don’t pay much in taxes.Yo, Corn. Blue states pay more than red states because they make more. I thought that's what you socialists have been screaming about for years. Soak the rich. Make them pay their share. Now you're telling me you want poorer states to support richer states? Hypocrite much?Gee, the blue states pay in much more than the rather pathetic and incredibly sad red states; the blob is going to run up multiple trillions more in debt if that is the case.
wrong try again
that's actually fair accurate. Give a rebuttal on why not. or just STFU
Wow - Look at you sitting on high, judging and sending a proclamation with words like "Obese" and "losers". You must be an elitist liberal. Yet, you don't want to help out those that are less fortunate than thou. This is the true liberal. They really don't give a shit about anyone but themselves.
We gotta stop being at each other's throats all the time.Red states are populated by obese losers who don’t make much money and don’t pay much in taxes.
The fact is that what idiot Mnucin is saying pertains to ALL the states...red and blue.
It sure as hell doesTo conservatives, Blue States are always there as a cash cow.It is confusing but I believe you. Sorry if I misinterpretedAre social security and medicare really for freeloaders? They are not free to the individual. You do know that you pay for this benefit, yes?There should be no additional aid to those states that already receive more federal aid than they pay in taxes.
They are already freeloaders
Start with Kentucky
View attachment 329595
So you consider Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid "Free loaders". I thought progressives were all for these types of programs. Wow.
No - they are not freeloaders. I didn't say that. Re-read.
It's not confusing to me. It must be confusing to you because you are going through what is called "cognitive dissonance". It's extremely difficult, confusing and makes one uncomfortable. You want to believe that Blue states are all that, but then you can't fit your head around that it is a good thing that other people in other states that are richer are putting more into the pie than those that are poor and more unfortunate. It kills your argument about Blue states - blah, blah, blah..... because you're supposed to be for the poor and unfortunate.
Maybe, just maybe, you should not side with that Blue state Red state fallacy - ditch it - abhore it- and all will be right.
But when Blue States are the ones needing assistance, they look the other way
It has nothing to do with being the color BLUE.
It sure as hell doesTo conservatives, Blue States are always there as a cash cow.It is confusing but I believe you. Sorry if I misinterpretedAre social security and medicare really for freeloaders? They are not free to the individual. You do know that you pay for this benefit, yes?There should be no additional aid to those states that already receive more federal aid than they pay in taxes.
They are already freeloaders
Start with Kentucky
View attachment 329595
So you consider Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid "Free loaders". I thought progressives were all for these types of programs. Wow.
No - they are not freeloaders. I didn't say that. Re-read.
It's not confusing to me. It must be confusing to you because you are going through what is called "cognitive dissonance". It's extremely difficult, confusing and makes one uncomfortable. You want to believe that Blue states are all that, but then you can't fit your head around that it is a good thing that other people in other states that are richer are putting more into the pie than those that are poor and more unfortunate. It kills your argument about Blue states - blah, blah, blah..... because you're supposed to be for the poor and unfortunate.
Maybe, just maybe, you should not side with that Blue state Red state fallacy - ditch it - abhore it- and all will be right.
But when Blue States are the ones needing assistance, they look the other way
It has nothing to do with being the color BLUE.
If not, then how does Mississippi get a cent?
They were more affected by the outbreak than the vast wasteland that is flyover country. If you don’t assist the blue states, the first to feel it will be the backwards populations in places lik MS AL KY WV KS NE SD AR MOIf they're so rich, why do they need money?Gee, the blue states pay in much more than the rather pathetic and incredibly sad red states; the blob is going to run up multiple trillions more in debt if that is the case.
It sure as hell doesTo conservatives, Blue States are always there as a cash cow.It is confusing but I believe you. Sorry if I misinterpretedAre social security and medicare really for freeloaders? They are not free to the individual. You do know that you pay for this benefit, yes?There should be no additional aid to those states that already receive more federal aid than they pay in taxes.
They are already freeloaders
Start with Kentucky
View attachment 329595
So you consider Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid "Free loaders". I thought progressives were all for these types of programs. Wow.
No - they are not freeloaders. I didn't say that. Re-read.
It's not confusing to me. It must be confusing to you because you are going through what is called "cognitive dissonance". It's extremely difficult, confusing and makes one uncomfortable. You want to believe that Blue states are all that, but then you can't fit your head around that it is a good thing that other people in other states that are richer are putting more into the pie than those that are poor and more unfortunate. It kills your argument about Blue states - blah, blah, blah..... because you're supposed to be for the poor and unfortunate.
Maybe, just maybe, you should not side with that Blue state Red state fallacy - ditch it - abhore it- and all will be right.
But when Blue States are the ones needing assistance, they look the other way
It has nothing to do with being the color BLUE.
If not, then how does Mississippi get a cent?
Let's look at this thing from a logical perspective:
Where is one of the best places to live and work in the country?
California
Why?
Four major biomes - Beaches, Mountains, Desert, Valley's all within a two to three hour drive of living pretty much anywhere in the state. Great for Travel, outdoors, sight seeing, etc..
Weather - You don't like the weather? Drive a few hours and you can get to a place with very different weather. The weather is really fabulous.
Resources - Timber, farming, oil, etc...
Do people want to live here? Absolutely
Do Businesses want to base their operation here? - Yes if it is a business that has problems getting human resources such as Technology. Ask Google, Apple, Facebook and many others in Silicon Valley.
Do those businesses pay a lot of money? Yes
Do those people pay a lot of federal taxes for SSI, Medicare, Medicaid? Yes
Is it expensive? - Yes
do you want to live there when you retire? - Not necessarily. If you could sell your $1.4M home you bought for $200K 30 years ago then you could buy a house say....in Phoenix for one third the price and much bigger. Then you could take the rest and travel the world or whatever floats your boat. (Phoenix has grown to be the 5th largest city in the country because of this dynamic). While you live in Phoenix now - you can collect your SS, Medicare, Medicaid benefits which will count against Arizona but make California look good.
Does this have anything to do with politics? Absofuckinglutley not.
How does the state benefit? - They get a boatload of taxes and they can spend lot of it on social programs, pensions, etc.. because they are a rich state. The politics gravitate toward liberalism because of the money. Not the other way around.
Y'all need to get a grip and stop using this as a club - it's completely incorrect.
The average age of a Californian is 51 years old. It is almost 54 years old in Missouri. Why is this? Oh yeah - retirees flee the place. This is one big reason why Missouri looks like a taker and California looks like a giver beside resources and weather. Their population is OLDER!
Every article I've ever read is missing this point. It doesn't explain it all, but it explains a large portion. A very large portion.
Let's look at this thing from a logical perspective:
Where is one of the best places to live and work in the country?
California
Why?
Four major biomes - Beaches, Mountains, Desert, Valley's all within a two to three hour drive of living pretty much anywhere in the state. Great for Travel, outdoors, sight seeing, etc..
Weather - You don't like the weather? Drive a few hours and you can get to a place with very different weather. The weather is really fabulous.
Resources - Timber, farming, oil, etc...
Do people want to live here? Absolutely
Do Businesses want to base their operation here? - Yes if it is a business that has problems getting human resources such as Technology. Ask Google, Apple, Facebook and many others in Silicon Valley.
Do those businesses pay a lot of money? Yes
Do those people pay a lot of federal taxes for SSI, Medicare, Medicaid? Yes
Is it expensive? - Yes
do you want to live there when you retire? - Not necessarily. If you could sell your $1.4M home you bought for $200K 30 years ago then you could buy a house say....in Phoenix for one third the price and much bigger. Then you could take the rest and travel the world or whatever floats your boat. (Phoenix has grown to be the 5th largest city in the country because of this dynamic). While you live in Phoenix now - you can collect your SS, Medicare, Medicaid benefits which will count against Arizona but make California look good.
Does this have anything to do with politics? Absofuckinglutley not.
How does the state benefit? - They get a boatload of taxes and they can spend lot of it on social programs, pensions, etc.. because they are a rich state. The politics gravitate toward liberalism because of the money. Not the other way around.
Y'all need to get a grip and stop using this as a club - it's completely incorrect.
The average age of a Californian is 51 years old. It is almost 54 years old in Missouri. Why is this? Oh yeah - retirees flee the place. This is one big reason why Missouri looks like a taker and California looks like a giver beside resources and weather. Their population is OLDER!
Every article I've ever read is missing this point. It doesn't explain it all, but it explains a large portion. A very large portion.
Alrighty then, so much for the BS.
California Companies Flee Business-Hostile State In Droves | Investor's Business Daily
As far as technology is concerned if you're going to ask Google, Apple, or Facebook you really don't know technology.
Let's look at this thing from a logical perspective:
Where is one of the best places to live and work in the country?
California
Why?
Four major biomes - Beaches, Mountains, Desert, Valley's all within a two to three hour drive of living pretty much anywhere in the state. Great for Travel, outdoors, sight seeing, etc..
Weather - You don't like the weather? Drive a few hours and you can get to a place with very different weather. The weather is really fabulous.
Resources - Timber, farming, oil, etc...
Do people want to live here? Absolutely
Do Businesses want to base their operation here? - Yes if it is a business that has problems getting human resources such as Technology. Ask Google, Apple, Facebook and many others in Silicon Valley.
Do those businesses pay a lot of money? Yes
Do those people pay a lot of federal taxes for SSI, Medicare, Medicaid? Yes
Is it expensive? - Yes
do you want to live there when you retire? - Not necessarily. If you could sell your $1.4M home you bought for $200K 30 years ago then you could buy a house say....in Phoenix for one third the price and much bigger. Then you could take the rest and travel the world or whatever floats your boat. (Phoenix has grown to be the 5th largest city in the country because of this dynamic). While you live in Phoenix now - you can collect your SS, Medicare, Medicaid benefits which will count against Arizona but make California look good.
Does this have anything to do with politics? Absofuckinglutley not.
How does the state benefit? - They get a boatload of taxes and they can spend lot of it on social programs, pensions, etc.. because they are a rich state. The politics gravitate toward liberalism because of the money. Not the other way around.
Y'all need to get a grip and stop using this as a club - it's completely incorrect.
The average age of a Californian is 51 years old. It is almost 54 years old in Missouri. Why is this? Oh yeah - retirees flee the place. This is one big reason why Missouri looks like a taker and California looks like a giver beside resources and weather. Their population is OLDER!
Every article I've ever read is missing this point. It doesn't explain it all, but it explains a large portion. A very large portion.
Alrighty then, so much for the BS.
California Companies Flee Business-Hostile State In Droves | Investor's Business Daily
As far as technology is concerned if you're going to ask Google, Apple, or Facebook you really don't know technology.
You keep telling us that they are so wealthy. Let them take care of themselves. Federal money should go to those poor backwaters you deride. It's fair and progressive, right?They were more affected by the outbreak than the vast wasteland that is flyover country. If you don’t assist the blue states, the first to feel it will be the backwards populations in places lik MS AL KY WV KS NE SD AR MO
Let's look at this thing from a logical perspective:
Where is one of the best places to live and work in the country?
California
Why?
Four major biomes - Beaches, Mountains, Desert, Valley's all within a two to three hour drive of living pretty much anywhere in the state. Great for Travel, outdoors, sight seeing, etc..
Weather - You don't like the weather? Drive a few hours and you can get to a place with very different weather. The weather is really fabulous.
Resources - Timber, farming, oil, etc...
Do people want to live here? Absolutely
Do Businesses want to base their operation here? - Yes if it is a business that has problems getting human resources such as Technology. Ask Google, Apple, Facebook and many others in Silicon Valley.
Do those businesses pay a lot of money? Yes
Do those people pay a lot of federal taxes for SSI, Medicare, Medicaid? Yes
Is it expensive? - Yes
do you want to live there when you retire? - Not necessarily. If you could sell your $1.4M home you bought for $200K 30 years ago then you could buy a house say....in Phoenix for one third the price and much bigger. Then you could take the rest and travel the world or whatever floats your boat. (Phoenix has grown to be the 5th largest city in the country because of this dynamic). While you live in Phoenix now - you can collect your SS, Medicare, Medicaid benefits which will count against Arizona but make California look good.
Does this have anything to do with politics? Absofuckinglutley not.
How does the state benefit? - They get a boatload of taxes and they can spend lot of it on social programs, pensions, etc.. because they are a rich state. The politics gravitate toward liberalism because of the money. Not the other way around.
Y'all need to get a grip and stop using this as a club - it's completely incorrect.
The average age of a Californian is 51 years old. It is almost 54 years old in Missouri. Why is this? Oh yeah - retirees flee the place. This is one big reason why Missouri looks like a taker and California looks like a giver beside resources and weather. Their population is OLDER!
Every article I've ever read is missing this point. It doesn't explain it all, but it explains a large portion. A very large portion.
Alrighty then, so much for the BS.
California Companies Flee Business-Hostile State In Droves | Investor's Business Daily
As far as technology is concerned if you're going to ask Google, Apple, or Facebook you really don't know technology.
Happens every 30 years in California. They start taking more and more and businesses either drown or flee. You can reference that article all day, but until real estate prices crash - there aren't enough businesses leaving to make a dent in California's bucket.
And what does your second point mean? It is meaningless - You don't reference or point to anything that explains that they aren't technology companies.
They are in the fucking Tech Sector for christ sakes. Go look at IBD some more- you'll see them listed there once per week.