More lefties learn the glory of the 15 dollar minimum wage....unemployment.....

[HereWeGoAgain]

Please try to keep up.

Severely limited....

Are you sure you even own a bar?

You should be very careful who you call a liar, little man.
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Well the min wage for tipped employees is like $2 an hour. Customers are mostly paying your employees. I don't think a min wage increase will break you. And if it would well we know who the little man is.

Tell that to teenagers....highest unemployment rate is for that age group...why hire a teenager when you can hire an adult who lost their job because of the minimum wage.....

Please share a link showing all these unemployed teenagers who can't find work.

Here you go. And I even took it from a source you'll approve of.
Teen Unemployment

I don't see in that article where it blames min wage. Nor do I see that it is any higher than it was years ago. The link really says very little.

Than google it your damn self.
There are pages of teen unemployment problems.

Why would I? I don't believe it is caused by min wage increases.

Yet you want to make it worse.

 

[Brain357]

Please try to keep up.

Severely limited....

Are you sure you even own a bar?

You should be very careful who you call a liar, little man.
Why would I have color composites of my tee-shirt design that is in production as we speak?View attachment 40872

Well the min wage for tipped employees is like $2 an hour. Customers are mostly paying your employees. I don't think a min wage increase will break you. And if it would well we know who the little man is.

Please share a link showing all these unemployed teenagers who can't find work.

Here you go. And I even took it from a source you'll approve of.
Teen Unemployment

I don't see in that article where it blames min wage. Nor do I see that it is any higher than it was years ago. The link really says very little.

Than google it your damn self.
There are pages of teen unemployment problems.

Why would I? I don't believe it is caused by min wage increases.

Yet you want to make it worse.

Min wage increases have never made it worse.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Please try to keep up.

Severely limited....

Are you sure you even own a bar?

You should be very careful who you call a liar, little man.
Why would I have color composites of my tee-shirt design that is in production as we speak?View attachment 40872

Well the min wage for tipped employees is like $2 an hour. Customers are mostly paying your employees. I don't think a min wage increase will break you. And if it would well we know who the little man is.

Here you go. And I even took it from a source you'll approve of.
Teen Unemployment

I don't see in that article where it blames min wage. Nor do I see that it is any higher than it was years ago. The link really says very little.

Than google it your damn self.
There are pages of teen unemployment problems.

Why would I? I don't believe it is caused by min wage increases.

Yet you want to make it worse.

Min wage increases have never made it worse.

Than give em a buck. They dont deserve that but if it would shut up liberals it would be worth it.

 

[Brain357]

Are you sure you even own a bar?

You should be very careful who you call a liar, little man.
Why would I have color composites of my tee-shirt design that is in production as we speak?View attachment 40872

Well the min wage for tipped employees is like $2 an hour. Customers are mostly paying your employees. I don't think a min wage increase will break you. And if it would well we know who the little man is.

I don't see in that article where it blames min wage. Nor do I see that it is any higher than it was years ago. The link really says very little.

Than google it your damn self.
There are pages of teen unemployment problems.

Why would I? I don't believe it is caused by min wage increases.

Yet you want to make it worse.

Min wage increases have never made it worse.

Than give em a buck. They dont deserve that but if it would shut up liberals it would be worth it.

I'm certain a buck would not cause any problems. I view min wage increases as one of the better liberal options. It sure beats taxing more and having the governent try to redistribute it. With this option it at least goes directly to the worker not increasing the size of governent.

 

[hadit]

Really? How easy is it for a teenager trying to break into the job market by pumping gas?

Yes really. Unemployment has not been effected by min wage increases.

Great! Then why not increase it to $100/hour and make everyone rich?

The answer, of course, is that we can't without also eliminating jobs. Thus, it matters how high and how fast you raise it. If we jump overnight from $7/hour to $15/hour, more jobs are lost than if we raise it from $7/hour to $8/hour. Keeping any increase below inflation results in fewer jobs lost, but that's not what most increase advocates want. They seem to believe that you can eliminate poverty without impacting jobs. You can't.

You can't seriously think it would just jump to 15. Even in Seattle it will be years before it reaches 15. Fact is previous increases have not done what you claim. You are wrong.

Obviously, I am not. As I said, if raising the MW has NO impact on jobs, let's just raise it to $100/hr and be done with poverty altogether. And, while you're considering that, ask yourself WHY Seattle is taking years to raise its MW to $15/hr. If you answer that honestly, you will find that what I said is correct.

Nobody is suggesting 100, don't be such a drama queen. Exaggeration is all you have? Well previous raises have not effected unemployment.

That is my point. If you take an honest look at it, raising the MW DOES impact jobs. How much depends on the marginal increase and the timeframe. As my example illustrates, if you raise it too high too fast, you lose enough jobs that it's noticable. Already, we have lost many jobs that teens used to work to break into the job market. Pumping gas was one of them. Keep raising the cost of flipping hamburgers, and they'll be replaced by automation.

 

[Brain357]

Yes really. Unemployment has not been effected by min wage increases.

Great! Then why not increase it to $100/hour and make everyone rich?

The answer, of course, is that we can't without also eliminating jobs. Thus, it matters how high and how fast you raise it. If we jump overnight from $7/hour to $15/hour, more jobs are lost than if we raise it from $7/hour to $8/hour. Keeping any increase below inflation results in fewer jobs lost, but that's not what most increase advocates want. They seem to believe that you can eliminate poverty without impacting jobs. You can't.

You can't seriously think it would just jump to 15. Even in Seattle it will be years before it reaches 15. Fact is previous increases have not done what you claim. You are wrong.

Obviously, I am not. As I said, if raising the MW has NO impact on jobs, let's just raise it to $100/hr and be done with poverty altogether. And, while you're considering that, ask yourself WHY Seattle is taking years to raise its MW to $15/hr. If you answer that honestly, you will find that what I said is correct.

Nobody is suggesting 100, don't be such a drama queen. Exaggeration is all you have? Well previous raises have not effected unemployment.

That is my point. If you take an honest look at it, raising the MW DOES impact jobs. How much depends on the marginal increase and the timeframe. As my example illustrates, if you raise it too high too fast, you lose enough jobs that it's noticable. Already, we have lost many jobs that teens used to work to break into the job market. Pumping gas was one of them. Keep raising the cost of flipping hamburgers, and they'll be replaced by automation.

I wouldn't expect any future increases to be too fast or too high. Republicans will make sure it is neither. So there really wouldn't be any negatives.

 

[hadit]

Great! Then why not increase it to $100/hour and make everyone rich?

The answer, of course, is that we can't without also eliminating jobs. Thus, it matters how high and how fast you raise it. If we jump overnight from $7/hour to $15/hour, more jobs are lost than if we raise it from $7/hour to $8/hour. Keeping any increase below inflation results in fewer jobs lost, but that's not what most increase advocates want. They seem to believe that you can eliminate poverty without impacting jobs. You can't.

You can't seriously think it would just jump to 15. Even in Seattle it will be years before it reaches 15. Fact is previous increases have not done what you claim. You are wrong.

Obviously, I am not. As I said, if raising the MW has NO impact on jobs, let's just raise it to $100/hr and be done with poverty altogether. And, while you're considering that, ask yourself WHY Seattle is taking years to raise its MW to $15/hr. If you answer that honestly, you will find that what I said is correct.

Nobody is suggesting 100, don't be such a drama queen. Exaggeration is all you have? Well previous raises have not effected unemployment.

That is my point. If you take an honest look at it, raising the MW DOES impact jobs. How much depends on the marginal increase and the timeframe. As my example illustrates, if you raise it too high too fast, you lose enough jobs that it's noticable. Already, we have lost many jobs that teens used to work to break into the job market. Pumping gas was one of them. Keep raising the cost of flipping hamburgers, and they'll be replaced by automation.

I wouldn't expect any future increases to be too fast or too high. Republicans will make sure it is neither. So there really wouldn't be any negatives.

IOW, you're saying that Republicans are the voice of reason and sanity on this issue?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You should be very careful who you call a liar, little man.
Why would I have color composites of my tee-shirt design that is in production as we speak?View attachment 40872

Well the min wage for tipped employees is like $2 an hour. Customers are mostly paying your employees. I don't think a min wage increase will break you. And if it would well we know who the little man is.

Than google it your damn self.
There are pages of teen unemployment problems.

Why would I? I don't believe it is caused by min wage increases.

Yet you want to make it worse.

Min wage increases have never made it worse.

Than give em a buck. They dont deserve that but if it would shut up liberals it would be worth it.

I'm certain a buck would not cause any problems. I view min wage increases as one of the better liberal options. It sure beats taxing more and having the governent try to redistribute it. With this option it at least goes directly to the worker not increasing the size of governent.

That only goes so far. If you jack up the min wage you now have to raise wages across the board driving up prices.
You pay oneway or another whether it's through higher prices or gov assistance.
Personally I'd rather not screw up the pay scale.

 

[2aguy]

Really? How easy is it for a teenager trying to break into the job market by pumping gas?

Yes really. Unemployment has not been effected by min wage increases.

Great! Then why not increase it to $100/hour and make everyone rich?

The answer, of course, is that we can't without also eliminating jobs. Thus, it matters how high and how fast you raise it. If we jump overnight from $7/hour to $15/hour, more jobs are lost than if we raise it from $7/hour to $8/hour. Keeping any increase below inflation results in fewer jobs lost, but that's not what most increase advocates want. They seem to believe that you can eliminate poverty without impacting jobs. You can't.

You can't seriously think it would just jump to 15. Even in Seattle it will be years before it reaches 15. Fact is previous increases have not done what you claim. You are wrong.

Obviously, I am not. As I said, if raising the MW has NO impact on jobs, let's just raise it to $100/hr and be done with poverty altogether. And, while you're considering that, ask yourself WHY Seattle is taking years to raise its MW to $15/hr. If you answer that honestly, you will find that what I said is correct.

Nobody is suggesting 100, don't be such a drama queen. Exaggeration is all you have? Well previous raises have not effected unemployment.

Why not 100 dollars...why just a living wage...why not a "good living" wage...........if it won't affect jobs, as you declare, and will in fact give people more money to spend, as you declare, giving all people 100 dollars an hour would give people a lot more to spend...right?

 

[Brain357]

You can't seriously think it would just jump to 15. Even in Seattle it will be years before it reaches 15. Fact is previous increases have not done what you claim. You are wrong.

Obviously, I am not. As I said, if raising the MW has NO impact on jobs, let's just raise it to $100/hr and be done with poverty altogether. And, while you're considering that, ask yourself WHY Seattle is taking years to raise its MW to $15/hr. If you answer that honestly, you will find that what I said is correct.

Nobody is suggesting 100, don't be such a drama queen. Exaggeration is all you have? Well previous raises have not effected unemployment.

That is my point. If you take an honest look at it, raising the MW DOES impact jobs. How much depends on the marginal increase and the timeframe. As my example illustrates, if you raise it too high too fast, you lose enough jobs that it's noticable. Already, we have lost many jobs that teens used to work to break into the job market. Pumping gas was one of them. Keep raising the cost of flipping hamburgers, and they'll be replaced by automation.

I wouldn't expect any future increases to be too fast or too high. Republicans will make sure it is neither. So there really wouldn't be any negatives.

IOW, you're saying that Republicans are the voice of reason and sanity on this issue?

Not really. They seem to have no interest in increasing wages for the poor. They completely ignore the effects of too much inequality. Democrats seem to recognize the problems, I just don't usually agree with their solutions. Repubs seem to not even recognize the problems.

 

[Brain357]

Well the min wage for tipped employees is like $2 an hour. Customers are mostly paying your employees. I don't think a min wage increase will break you. And if it would well we know who the little man is.
Why would I? I don't believe it is caused by min wage increases.

Yet you want to make it worse.

Min wage increases have never made it worse.

Than give em a buck. They dont deserve that but if it would shut up liberals it would be worth it.

I'm certain a buck would not cause any problems. I view min wage increases as one of the better liberal options. It sure beats taxing more and having the governent try to redistribute it. With this option it at least goes directly to the worker not increasing the size of governent.

That only goes so far. If you jack up the min wage you now have to raise wages across the board driving up prices.
You pay oneway or another whether it's through higher prices or gov assistance.
Personally I'd rather not screw up the pay scale.

If min wage increases it will not increase wages across the board. Maybe just for some of the lowest paid.

 

[Brain357]

Yes really. Unemployment has not been effected by min wage increases.

Great! Then why not increase it to $100/hour and make everyone rich?

The answer, of course, is that we can't without also eliminating jobs. Thus, it matters how high and how fast you raise it. If we jump overnight from $7/hour to $15/hour, more jobs are lost than if we raise it from $7/hour to $8/hour. Keeping any increase below inflation results in fewer jobs lost, but that's not what most increase advocates want. They seem to believe that you can eliminate poverty without impacting jobs. You can't.

You can't seriously think it would just jump to 15. Even in Seattle it will be years before it reaches 15. Fact is previous increases have not done what you claim. You are wrong.

Obviously, I am not. As I said, if raising the MW has NO impact on jobs, let's just raise it to $100/hr and be done with poverty altogether. And, while you're considering that, ask yourself WHY Seattle is taking years to raise its MW to $15/hr. If you answer that honestly, you will find that what I said is correct.

Nobody is suggesting 100, don't be such a drama queen. Exaggeration is all you have? Well previous raises have not effected unemployment.

Why not 100 dollars...why just a living wage...why not a "good living" wage...........if it won't affect jobs, as you declare, and will in fact give people more money to spend, as you declare, giving all people 100 dollars an hour would give people a lot more to spend...right?

Stop being ridiculous. Min wage increases have never increased unemployment.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Obviously, I am not. As I said, if raising the MW has NO impact on jobs, let's just raise it to $100/hr and be done with poverty altogether. And, while you're considering that, ask yourself WHY Seattle is taking years to raise its MW to $15/hr. If you answer that honestly, you will find that what I said is correct.

Nobody is suggesting 100, don't be such a drama queen. Exaggeration is all you have? Well previous raises have not effected unemployment.

That is my point. If you take an honest look at it, raising the MW DOES impact jobs. How much depends on the marginal increase and the timeframe. As my example illustrates, if you raise it too high too fast, you lose enough jobs that it's noticable. Already, we have lost many jobs that teens used to work to break into the job market. Pumping gas was one of them. Keep raising the cost of flipping hamburgers, and they'll be replaced by automation.

I wouldn't expect any future increases to be too fast or too high. Republicans will make sure it is neither. So there really wouldn't be any negatives.

IOW, you're saying that Republicans are the voice of reason and sanity on this issue?

Not really. They seem to have no interest in increasing wages for the poor. They completely ignore the effects of too much inequality. Democrats seem to recognize the problems, I just don't usually agree with their solutions. Repubs seem to not even recognize the problems.

If you increase wages across the board prices are going to increase negating any increase in wages.
Why is that so hard to understand?

 

[2aguy]

Obviously, I am not. As I said, if raising the MW has NO impact on jobs, let's just raise it to $100/hr and be done with poverty altogether. And, while you're considering that, ask yourself WHY Seattle is taking years to raise its MW to $15/hr. If you answer that honestly, you will find that what I said is correct.

Nobody is suggesting 100, don't be such a drama queen. Exaggeration is all you have? Well previous raises have not effected unemployment.

That is my point. If you take an honest look at it, raising the MW DOES impact jobs. How much depends on the marginal increase and the timeframe. As my example illustrates, if you raise it too high too fast, you lose enough jobs that it's noticable. Already, we have lost many jobs that teens used to work to break into the job market. Pumping gas was one of them. Keep raising the cost of flipping hamburgers, and they'll be replaced by automation.

I wouldn't expect any future increases to be too fast or too high. Republicans will make sure it is neither. So there really wouldn't be any negatives.

IOW, you're saying that Republicans are the voice of reason and sanity on this issue?

Not really. They seem to have no interest in increasing wages for the poor. They completely ignore the effects of too much inequality. Democrats seem to recognize the problems, I just don't usually agree with their solutions. Repubs seem to not even recognize the problems.

Wealth income inequality isn't a problem.....it is only when the wealth is stolen that it is a problem...as it is in leftist, socialist economies.....

As long as the market is free, government is small and controlled, people will move up and down the income scale throughout their lives...it is only when the government steps in and tries to "help" people that inequality sets in because then "theft" becomes part of the equation........

 

[2aguy]

Great! Then why not increase it to $100/hour and make everyone rich?

The answer, of course, is that we can't without also eliminating jobs. Thus, it matters how high and how fast you raise it. If we jump overnight from $7/hour to $15/hour, more jobs are lost than if we raise it from $7/hour to $8/hour. Keeping any increase below inflation results in fewer jobs lost, but that's not what most increase advocates want. They seem to believe that you can eliminate poverty without impacting jobs. You can't.

You can't seriously think it would just jump to 15. Even in Seattle it will be years before it reaches 15. Fact is previous increases have not done what you claim. You are wrong.

Obviously, I am not. As I said, if raising the MW has NO impact on jobs, let's just raise it to $100/hr and be done with poverty altogether. And, while you're considering that, ask yourself WHY Seattle is taking years to raise its MW to $15/hr. If you answer that honestly, you will find that what I said is correct.

Nobody is suggesting 100, don't be such a drama queen. Exaggeration is all you have? Well previous raises have not effected unemployment.

Why not 100 dollars...why just a living wage...why not a "good living" wage...........if it won't affect jobs, as you declare, and will in fact give people more money to spend, as you declare, giving all people 100 dollars an hour would give people a lot more to spend...right?

Stop being ridiculous. Min wage increases have never increased unemployment.

Don't be an idiot.....the reason teenagers can't find jobs is because of the minimum wage increases......

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Yet you want to make it worse.

Min wage increases have never made it worse.

Than give em a buck. They dont deserve that but if it would shut up liberals it would be worth it.

I'm certain a buck would not cause any problems. I view min wage increases as one of the better liberal options. It sure beats taxing more and having the governent try to redistribute it. With this option it at least goes directly to the worker not increasing the size of governent.

That only goes so far. If you jack up the min wage you now have to raise wages across the board driving up prices.
You pay oneway or another whether it's through higher prices or gov assistance.
Personally I'd rather not screw up the pay scale.

If min wage increases it will not increase wages across the board. Maybe just for some of the lowest paid.

So you're just going to fuck over the people who actually applied themselves to increase their wages?
That'll help make some more republicans.

 

[Brain357]

Nobody is suggesting 100, don't be such a drama queen. Exaggeration is all you have? Well previous raises have not effected unemployment.

That is my point. If you take an honest look at it, raising the MW DOES impact jobs. How much depends on the marginal increase and the timeframe. As my example illustrates, if you raise it too high too fast, you lose enough jobs that it's noticable. Already, we have lost many jobs that teens used to work to break into the job market. Pumping gas was one of them. Keep raising the cost of flipping hamburgers, and they'll be replaced by automation.

I wouldn't expect any future increases to be too fast or too high. Republicans will make sure it is neither. So there really wouldn't be any negatives.

IOW, you're saying that Republicans are the voice of reason and sanity on this issue?

Not really. They seem to have no interest in increasing wages for the poor. They completely ignore the effects of too much inequality. Democrats seem to recognize the problems, I just don't usually agree with their solutions. Repubs seem to not even recognize the problems.

Wealth income inequality isn't a problem.....it is only when the wealth is stolen that it is a problem...as it is in leftist, socialist economies.....

As long as the market is free, government is small and controlled, people will move up and down the income scale throughout their lives...it is only when the government steps in and tries to "help" people that inequality sets in because then "theft" becomes part of the equation........

Too much inequality leads to slow growth. See our economy.

 

[Brain357]

Min wage increases have never made it worse.

Than give em a buck. They dont deserve that but if it would shut up liberals it would be worth it.

I'm certain a buck would not cause any problems. I view min wage increases as one of the better liberal options. It sure beats taxing more and having the governent try to redistribute it. With this option it at least goes directly to the worker not increasing the size of governent.

That only goes so far. If you jack up the min wage you now have to raise wages across the board driving up prices.
You pay oneway or another whether it's through higher prices or gov assistance.
Personally I'd rather not screw up the pay scale.

If min wage increases it will not increase wages across the board. Maybe just for some of the lowest paid.

So you're just going to fuck over the people who actually applied themselves to increase their wages?
That'll help make some more republicans.

So you really think the people making 50k plus a year will be demanding raises? You must be joking.

 

[2aguy]

That is my point. If you take an honest look at it, raising the MW DOES impact jobs. How much depends on the marginal increase and the timeframe. As my example illustrates, if you raise it too high too fast, you lose enough jobs that it's noticable. Already, we have lost many jobs that teens used to work to break into the job market. Pumping gas was one of them. Keep raising the cost of flipping hamburgers, and they'll be replaced by automation.

I wouldn't expect any future increases to be too fast or too high. Republicans will make sure it is neither. So there really wouldn't be any negatives.

IOW, you're saying that Republicans are the voice of reason and sanity on this issue?

Not really. They seem to have no interest in increasing wages for the poor. They completely ignore the effects of too much inequality. Democrats seem to recognize the problems, I just don't usually agree with their solutions. Repubs seem to not even recognize the problems.

Wealth income inequality isn't a problem.....it is only when the wealth is stolen that it is a problem...as it is in leftist, socialist economies.....

As long as the market is free, government is small and controlled, people will move up and down the income scale throughout their lives...it is only when the government steps in and tries to "help" people that inequality sets in because then "theft" becomes part of the equation........

Too much inequality leads to slow growth. See our economy.

No, too much government leads to slow growth......the more government tries to "help" and decide which people should get what....that slows the economy down....otherwise it would be going gang busters.....

 

[2aguy]

Than give em a buck. They dont deserve that but if it would shut up liberals it would be worth it.

I'm certain a buck would not cause any problems. I view min wage increases as one of the better liberal options. It sure beats taxing more and having the governent try to redistribute it. With this option it at least goes directly to the worker not increasing the size of governent.

That only goes so far. If you jack up the min wage you now have to raise wages across the board driving up prices.
You pay oneway or another whether it's through higher prices or gov assistance.
Personally I'd rather not screw up the pay scale.

If min wage increases it will not increase wages across the board. Maybe just for some of the lowest paid.

So you're just going to fuck over the people who actually applied themselves to increase their wages?
That'll help make some more republicans.

So you really think the people making 50k plus a year will be demanding raises? You must be joking.

yes.....people always want more money........