More record temps

[RollingThunder]

NASA said there was no arctic ice melting you said there was.

NASA did not say that, retard. You're just too stupid to understand what you read.

Here's what NASA actually has to say about the Arctic ice.

Arctic Sea Ice Continues Decline, Hits Second-Lowest Level
NASA
Oct. 4, 2011
(govt. publication - free to reproduce)

WASHINGTON -- Last month the extent of sea ice covering the Arctic Ocean declined to the second-lowest extent on record. Satellite data from NASA and the NASA-supported National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) at the University of Colorado in Boulder showed that the summertime sea ice cover narrowly avoided a new record low.

The Arctic ice cap grows each winter as the sun sets for several months and shrinks each summer as the sun rises higher in the northern sky. Each year the Arctic sea ice reaches its annual minimum extent in September. It hit a record low in 2007.

The near-record ice-melt followed higher-than-average summer temperatures, but without the unusual weather conditions that contributed to the extreme melt of 2007. "Atmospheric and oceanic conditions were not as conducive to ice loss this year, but the melt still neared 2007 levels," said NSIDC scientist Walt Meier. "This probably reflects loss of multiyear ice in the Beaufort and Chukchi seas as well as other factors that are making the ice more vulnerable."

Joey Comiso, senior scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., said the continued low minimum sea ice levels fits into the large-scale decline pattern that scientists have watched unfold over the past three decades.

"The sea ice is not only declining, the pace of the decline is becoming more drastic," Comiso said. "The older, thicker ice is declining faster than the rest, making for a more vulnerable perennial ice cover."

While the sea ice extent did not dip below the 2007 record, the sea ice area as measured by the microwave radiometer on NASA's Aqua satellite did drop slightly lower than 2007 levels for about 10 days in early September, Comiso said. Sea ice "area" differs from extent in that it equals the actual surface area covered by ice, while extent includes any area where ice covers at least 15 percent of the ocean.

Arctic sea ice extent on Sept. 9, the lowest point this year, was 4.33 million square kilometers (1.67 million square miles). Averaged over the month of September, ice extent was 4.61 million square kilometers (1.78 million square miles). This places 2011 as the second lowest ice extent both for the daily minimum extent and the monthly average. Ice extent was 2.43 million square kilometers (938,000 square miles) below the 1979 to 2000 average.

This summer's low ice extent continued the downward trend seen over the last 30 years, which scientists attribute largely to warming temperatures caused by climate change. Data show that Arctic sea ice has been declining both in extent and thickness. Since 1979, September Arctic sea ice extent has declined by 12 percent per decade.

"The oldest and thickest ice in the Arctic continues to decline, especially in the Beaufort Sea and the Canada Basin," NSIDC scientist Julienne Stroeve said. "This appears to be an important driver for the low sea ice conditions over the past few summers."

Climate models have suggested that the Arctic could lose almost all of its summer ice cover by 2100, but in recent years, ice extent has declined faster than the models predicted.

Sea ice? Your going to blame atmospheric CO2 on melting sea ice?

Yes. And the world's climate scientists all agree. Your doubt about it is based only on your own ignorance and general brainwashed rightwingnut stupidity.

How about shifting ocean currents?

How about pink unicorns, while you're at it. LOL.

Arctic sea ice continues to shrink, even in frigid winter
Alaska Dispatch
Jan 09, 2012
(excerpts)
Even as winter clamps down, our polar ice cap continues to dwindle. Despite the arrival of frigid winter temperatures north of Alaska, the sea ice of the Arctic Ocean ended 2011 far below average in both extent and volume, continuing its decades-long shrink toward summer oblivion, according to the most recent estimates posted online by polar observers. The total mass of ice -- its surface footprint plus the bulk hidden beneath the surface -- has never been lower for this time of year. The area covered was third smallest since 1979, with vast areas of ocean north of Europe remaining ice-free.

The polar cap has now lost almost half of its December volume since 1979 -- with much of the thick, multi-year ice that previously formed the ice cap's bedrock, so to speak, exiting into the Atlantic Ocean during summers. The total amount of ice in the Arctic remained at least 37 percent below the long-term average, explained a new analysis that drew on computer models, satellite feeds and observations by ships and submarines. Ice volume as of Dec. 31 was estimated to be lower than any previous New Year's Eve on record, as depicted on this chart posted by the Polar Science Center at the University of Washington.

The area of the Arctic Ocean covered by at least 15 percent floes averaged only about 4.78 million square miles during December -- the third lowest seen for that month since satellite monitoring began in 1979, the NSIDC said. Only Decembers of 2006 and 2010 were lower for that month, but the five of the six lowest Decembers have all occurred during the past six years. To put this loss into perspective, the Arctic has been losing 3.5 percent of its December ice cover per decade for a generation. An ice-bound wilderness larger than Washington, Oregon, California and Texas combined has completely disappeared from the Far North’s early winter habitat.

 

[RollingThunder]

Hey RETARD

Talking to yourself again, I see.

You first posted this irrelevant and misleading nonsense in post #1196 on this thread and I refuted it in post #1204. Are you so retarded that you forgot that already?

What does this off topic stuff have to do with either the cold weather in Europe or the increase in record high temperatures in the US, moron. Are you grasping at straws again?

So there is little surface warming over East Antarctica. So what? It is the West Antarctic Ice Sheet that is melting fast and raising sea levels.

From the NASA article you cited:

The continent of Antarctica has been losing more than 100 cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice per year since 2002.​

You are Retarded and without any comprehension skills. That explains you problem with the facts.

Still talking to yourself. Nailed it, too.

 

[westwall]

The following table lists the highest and lowest temperatures recorded in each state in the United States, in both Fahrenheit and Celsius.

the 30's are massively over-represented. recent times....not so much. of course if you add in Hansen's adjustments then all those hot days just disappear. which is why everyone should take temperature data sets with a large pinch of salt. every new version of every set takes a little more away from the past and adds a little to the recent.

LOLOLOL......you are sooooo clueless.

"the highest and lowest temperatures recorded in each state in the United States" - completely meaningless in the context of this debate or in relation to global warming/climate changes.

BTW, retard, climate scientists like Dr Hansen use a broad array of data from all around the world, not single data points isolated by meaningless geographical boundaries, all within a country, the US, that covers only about 2% of the Earth's surface. Your denier cult myths about deliberate errors in climate science are both moronic and insane. You've been duped by the fossil fuel industry's propaganda into believing a lot of idiotic nonsense with no foundation in reality, you poor gullible fool.

Yes, he does....and he FALSIFY'S every one of them! He's an equal opportunity fraud.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Talking to yourself again, I see.

You first posted this irrelevant and misleading nonsense in post #1196 on this thread and I refuted it in post #1204. Are you so retarded that you forgot that already?

You are Retarded and without any comprehension skills. That explains you problem with the facts.

Still talking to yourself. Nailed it, too.

YOU are not me, when I say YOU it is YOU whom I am talking about. Damn moron doesn't even know what the word YOU means.

 

[RollingThunder]

People are insignificant life forms on the planet.

Ah, you're confusing your yourself with 'people'. Humans are actually a quite significant force on Earth at this point. It is just you that is insignificant. But that 's mostly because you're a flaming retard.



You have only a minuscule fleeting hint of intelligence. You seem to be too retarded to distinguish between geological time scales and human time scales or to understand the difference.

Most environmental concerns are pompus(sic) exercises in ego gratification.

Most environmental concerns are obviously beyond your very limited comprehension or ability to grasp the significance. You're just projecting your own moronic motivations onto people who are many times better educated and intelligent than you are, you poor brainwashed delusional retard.

You know, I don't like doing other people's homework for them.

You're not, so don't worry about it. You're just parroting stuff you obviously can't comprehend and don't even seem to have actually read.

From the article you cited:

"With temperatures rising worldwide due to global warming, though, maybe a cooling-off period is exactly what the planet needs. But for any hoping a weak solar cycle could provide a way to offset climate change, you can forget it. As Pesnell points out, "These are two independent effects. The solar signal will go up for awhile, but it's not an offset because if you just wait a couple of years, the sun will come back. They don't cancel each other out."

In any case, forecasting space weather is far from an exact science.

"There's an event where a number of experts try to predict the magnitude of the next solar cycle," says Michael Hesse, chief of NASA's Space Weather Laboratory at the Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland. "The last time this happened was 2007 (for the current cycle), and the expert panel essentially predicted everything from a very large to a very small solar cycle. In other words, we don't really understand this at all.""​

It's really simple just google it. You obviously have a bias and are deaf to what other legitimate sources are saying,

You don't seem to have any idea what are the 'legitimate sources' or what they are saying. You use blogs and random stuff you don't read. Try using reputable scientific sources and you might overcome the brainwashing you've been subjected to.

 

[RollingThunder]

You are Retarded and without any comprehension skills. That explains you problem with the facts.

Still talking to yourself. Nailed it, too.

YOU are not me, when I say YOU it is YOU whom I am talking about. Damn moron doesn't even know what the word YOU means.

LOL. But little retard, it is you that is very retarded and without any comprehension skills and it is you that has a problem with the facts, as you have just repeatedly demonstrated in this thread. Everything you have claimed has been refuted and shown to be wrong. You are a clueless retarded brainwashed fool. Deal with it.

 

[Old Rocks]

last one, there's obviously more where this came from:

Popular Technology.net: Global Cooling in 2008

Global Cooling in 2008

2008 was a year of Global Cooling contrary to the propaganda promoted by Al Gore and the mainstream media about a "warming earth". Hundreds to thousands of people froze to death in India, China and Afghanistan. There was record breaking cold temperatures and snow falls yet the hysteria continued - a climate tour icebreaker got stuck in Arctic ice, AGW activists learned the hard way that the Arctic still had ice and snow fell as the UK's House of Commons debated Global Warming legislation. Ironic? Yes but the empirical evidence clearly shows that the climate is cooling:

2008 - Cold Weather Kills 38 in Northern India (FOX News, January 2, 2008)
2008 - Indian cold wave toll kills 90 (The Earth Times, January 3, 2008)
2008 - A cold spell soon to replace global warming (RIA Novosti, January 3, 2008)
2008 - Cold Stretches Throughout East; Flurries Reported in Florida (FOX News, January 3, 2008)
2008 - Br-r-r! Where did global warming go? (The Boston Globe, January 6, 2008)
2008 - Snow, winds close highways, collapse roofs in Wash. (USA Today, January 8, 2008)
2008 - First snow for 100 years falls on Baghdad (AFP, January 11, 2008)
2008 - Saudi Arabia covered with snow in coldest winter for 20 years (RIA Novosti, January 11, 2008)
2008 - Russian scientist says Earth could soon face new Ice Age (RIA Novosti, January 22, 2008)
2008 - China battles "coldest winter in 100 years" (Reuters, February 4, 2008)

Dumb ass. 2010 tied 2005 and 1998 for the warmest year on record. And nine of the ten warmest years on record have been since 2000. The other year was, of course, 1998.

2011: The 9th hottest year on record | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine

2011 was the ninth hottest year on record, and those records go back 130 years.

And then they might say, well, sure, but that could be coincidence. Then you look them straight in the eye, and you say:

Nine of the ten hottest years on record have been since 2000.

The map above shows changes from average (where the average is from 1951 to 1980). You see clearly that temperatures over land have increased almost universally. Most of the ocean temperatures have gone up as well; the one big cooler region in the eastern Pacific is due to the La Niña last year, so it’s a temporary effect. Even with La Niña dropping temperatures, the overall effect is an increase in temperature. I’ll note that sunspot numbers were low last year as well, which (if anything) should result in a (very) slight cooling effect too.

Climate change deniers will gnash and froth — I expect the comments to this post to reflect that, as they always do — but the bottom line is this. The Earth is getting hotter. Human beings are at least partly to blame, and the evidence has piled up that we are mostly to blame. Not the Sun, not cosmic rays, not orbital oscillations. Humans.

As I’ve said before, here are the facts:


The Earth is warming up. The rate of warming has increased in the past century or so. This corresponds to the time of the Industrial Revolution, when we started dumping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. Greenhouse gases warm the planet (hence the name) — if they didn’t we’d have an average temperature below the freezing point of water. Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas which is dumped into the atmosphere by humans to the tune of 30 billion tons per year, 100 times the amount from volcanoes. And finally, approximately 97% of climatologists who actually study climate agree that global warming is real, and caused by humans.

Given the vast amount of evidence supporting all this, denying it is fantasy. Again, that won’t stop deniers: they will obfuscate, blow smoke, and nitpick details to make them seem important. But what they’re doing is fiddling while Earth burns.

 

[RollingThunder]

The following table lists the highest and lowest temperatures recorded in each state in the United States, in both Fahrenheit and Celsius.

the 30's are massively over-represented. recent times....not so much. of course if you add in Hansen's adjustments then all those hot days just disappear. which is why everyone should take temperature data sets with a large pinch of salt. every new version of every set takes a little more away from the past and adds a little to the recent.

LOLOLOL......you are sooooo clueless.

"the highest and lowest temperatures recorded in each state in the United States" - completely meaningless in the context of this debate or in relation to global warming/climate changes.

BTW, retard, climate scientists like Dr Hansen use a broad array of data from all around the world, not single data points isolated by meaningless geographical boundaries, all within a country, the US, that covers only about 2% of the Earth's surface. Your denier cult myths about deliberate errors in climate science are both moronic and insane. You've been duped by the fossil fuel industry's propaganda into believing a lot of idiotic nonsense with no foundation in reality, you poor gullible fool.

Yes, he does....and he FALSIFY'S(sic) every one of them! He's an equal opportunity fraud.

Your denier cult myths, that you swallow without any evidence, are soooooo stupid. Dr. Hansen is one of the most highly respected and accomplished climate scientists in the world, and one of the most published, with many honors and awards from his peers. His work has been reviewed by hundreds of other climate scientists. Nothing was "falsified", you poor deluded cretin.

Dr James Hansen - Honors and awards

Hansen was elected to the National Academy of Sciences in 1996 for his "development of pioneering radiative transfer models and studies of planetary atmospheres; development of simplified and three-dimensional global climate models; explication of climate forcing mechanisms; analysis of current climate trends from observational data; and projections of anthropogenic impacts on the global climate system."[70] In 2001, he received the 7th Annual Heinz Award in the Environment (endowed with US$250,000) for his research on global warming,[71] and was listed as one of Time Magazine's 100 Most Influential People in 2006. Also in 2006, the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) selected James Hansen to receive their Award for Scientific Freedom and Responsibility "for his courageous and steadfast advocacy in support of scientists' responsibilities to communicate their scientific opinions and findings openly and honestly on matters of public importance."[72]

In 2007, Hansen shared the US $1 million Dan David Prize for "achievements having an outstanding scientific, technological, cultural or social impact on our world". In 2008, he received the PNC Bank Common Wealth Award of Distinguished Service for his "outstanding achievements" in science. At the end of 2008, Hansen was named by EarthSky Communications and a panel of 600 scientist-advisors as the Scientist Communicator of the Year, citing him as an "outspoken authority on climate change" who had "best communicated with the public about vital science issues or concepts during 2008."[73]

In 2009, Hansen was awarded the 2009 Carl-Gustaf Rossby Research Medal,[73] the highest honor bestowed by the American Meteorological Society, for his "outstanding contributions to climate modeling, understanding climate change forcings and sensitivity, and for clear communication of climate science in the public arena."[74]

Hansen won the 2010 Sophie Prize, set up in 1997 by Norwegian Jostein Gaarder, the author of the 1991 best-selling novel and teenagers' guide to philosophy "Sophie's World",[75] for his " key role for the development of our understanding of human-induced climate change."

 

[Old Rocks]

The following table lists the highest and lowest temperatures recorded in each state in the United States, in both Fahrenheit and Celsius.

the 30's are massively over-represented. recent times....not so much. of course if you add in Hansen's adjustments then all those hot days just disappear. which is why everyone should take temperature data sets with a large pinch of salt. every new version of every set takes a little more away from the past and adds a little to the recent.

LOLOLOL......you are sooooo clueless.

"the highest and lowest temperatures recorded in each state in the United States" - completely meaningless in the context of this debate or in relation to global warming/climate changes.

BTW, retard, climate scientists like Dr Hansen use a broad array of data from all around the world, not single data points isolated by meaningless geographical boundaries, all within a country, the US, that covers only about 2% of the Earth's surface. Your denier cult myths about deliberate errors in climate science are both moronic and insane. You've been duped by the fossil fuel industry's propaganda into believing a lot of idiotic nonsense with no foundation in reality, you poor gullible fool.

Yes, he does....and he FALSIFY'S every one of them! He's an equal opportunity fraud.

Oh yes, of course. But then Dr. James Hansen is considered by many, here and abroad, the be the foremost climatologist in the world. And you are considered to be just another internet poster that makes continous claims, and never backs them up from reputable sources.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Still talking to yourself. Nailed it, too.

YOU are not me, when I say YOU it is YOU whom I am talking about. Damn moron doesn't even know what the word YOU means.

LOL. But little retard, it is you that is very retarded and without any comprehension skills and it is you that has a problem with the facts, as you have just repeatedly demonstrated in this thread. Everything you have claimed has been refuted and shown to be wrong. You are a clueless retarded brainwashed fool. Deal with it.

The only thing I have repeatedly demonstrated is just how much you are a retard. Have the adults left the house without locking up the computer pass word?

 

[Meister]

LOLOLOL......you are sooooo clueless.

"the highest and lowest temperatures recorded in each state in the United States" - completely meaningless in the context of this debate or in relation to global warming/climate changes.

BTW, retard, climate scientists like Dr Hansen use a broad array of data from all around the world, not single data points isolated by meaningless geographical boundaries, all within a country, the US, that covers only about 2% of the Earth's surface. Your denier cult myths about deliberate errors in climate science are both moronic and insane. You've been duped by the fossil fuel industry's propaganda into believing a lot of idiotic nonsense with no foundation in reality, you poor gullible fool.

Yes, he does....and he FALSIFY'S every one of them! He's an equal opportunity fraud.

Oh yes, of course. But then Dr. James Hansen is considered by many, here and abroad, the be the foremost climatologist in the world. And you are considered to be just another internet poster that makes continous claims, and never backs them up from reputable sources.

Of course he is...he's part of your religion.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

LOLOLOL......you are sooooo clueless.

"the highest and lowest temperatures recorded in each state in the United States" - completely meaningless in the context of this debate or in relation to global warming/climate changes.

BTW, retard, climate scientists like Dr Hansen use a broad array of data from all around the world, not single data points isolated by meaningless geographical boundaries, all within a country, the US, that covers only about 2% of the Earth's surface. Your denier cult myths about deliberate errors in climate science are both moronic and insane. You've been duped by the fossil fuel industry's propaganda into believing a lot of idiotic nonsense with no foundation in reality, you poor gullible fool.

Yes, he does....and he FALSIFY'S(sic) every one of them! He's an equal opportunity fraud.

Your denier cult myths, that you swallow without any evidence, are soooooo stupid. Dr. Hansen is one of the most highly respected and accomplished climate scientists in the world, and one of the most published, with many honors and awards from his peers. His work has been reviewed by hundreds of other climate scientists. Nothing was "falsified", you poor deluded cretin.

Dr James Hansen - Honors and awards

Hansen was elected to the National Academy of Sciences in 1996 for his "development of pioneering radiative transfer models and studies of planetary atmospheres; development of simplified and three-dimensional global climate models; explication of climate forcing mechanisms; analysis of current climate trends from observational data; and projections of anthropogenic impacts on the global climate system."[70] In 2001, he received the 7th Annual Heinz Award in the Environment (endowed with US$250,000) for his research on global warming,[71] and was listed as one of Time Magazine's 100 Most Influential People in 2006. Also in 2006, the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) selected James Hansen to receive their Award for Scientific Freedom and Responsibility "for his courageous and steadfast advocacy in support of scientists' responsibilities to communicate their scientific opinions and findings openly and honestly on matters of public importance."[72]

In 2007, Hansen shared the US $1 million Dan David Prize for "achievements having an outstanding scientific, technological, cultural or social impact on our world". In 2008, he received the PNC Bank Common Wealth Award of Distinguished Service for his "outstanding achievements" in science. At the end of 2008, Hansen was named by EarthSky Communications and a panel of 600 scientist-advisors as the Scientist Communicator of the Year, citing him as an "outspoken authority on climate change" who had "best communicated with the public about vital science issues or concepts during 2008."[73]

In 2009, Hansen was awarded the 2009 Carl-Gustaf Rossby Research Medal,[73] the highest honor bestowed by the American Meteorological Society, for his "outstanding contributions to climate modeling, understanding climate change forcings and sensitivity, and for clear communication of climate science in the public arena."[74]

Hansen won the 2010 Sophie Prize, set up in 1997 by Norwegian Jostein Gaarder, the author of the 1991 best-selling novel and teenagers' guide to philosophy "Sophie's World",[75] for his " key role for the development of our understanding of human-induced climate change."

Honors and awards? obama got a Nobel peace prize. That's how much I think about awards. If that piece of shit can get one for doing nothing anyone can get an award.

 

[RollingThunder]

...and here's another one.

Yeah, here's another foolish article with faulty links and a lying headline, written by a nobody for a nowhere site. "Tucson Citizen" - LOL. Your usual level of 'scientific sources', I see. LOL.

NASA Says Earth Is Entering A Cooling Period
TucsonCitizen.com
by Jonathan DuHamel on Dec. 15, 2010, under Climate change

LOLOLOLOL.....only problem - NASA DIDN'T SAY THAT AT ALL, EVER.

The article you cite supposedly has a link to a NASA source but the link doesn't work. There is no substantiation of the ridiculous claims the denier cult 'reporter' makes. Not surprising, since he's just making it up.

Most of the headlines are grabbed by NASA’s James Hansen, Head of Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York. Hansen has been the doomsayer-sayer-in-chief of the climate alarmists along with Al Gore. Hansen has been quoted as saying, “The trains carrying coal to power plants are death trains.” But other NASA scientists who use satellites to collect real data, take a different view, and are now saying that “our world should be just beginning to enter a new period of cooling — perhaps the next ice age.”

Here is the complete NASA article:{NO, IT ISN'T}

What are the primary forcings of the Earth system?

The Sun is the primary forcing of Earth’s climate system. Sunlight warms our world. Sunlight drives atmospheric and oceanic circulation patterns. Sunlight powers the process of photosynthesis that plants need to grow. Sunlight causes convection which carries warmth and water vapor up into the sky where clouds form and bring rain. In short, the Sun drives almost every aspect of our world’s climate system and makes possible life as we know it.

Earth’s orbit around and orientation toward the Sun change over spans of many thousands of years. In turn, these changing “orbital mechanics” force climate to change because they change where and how much sunlight reaches Earth. Thus, changing Earth’s exposure to sunlight forces climate to change. According to scientists’ models of Earth’s orbit and orientation toward the Sun indicate that our world should be just beginning to enter a new period of cooling — perhaps the next ice age.

"According to scientists’ models of Earth’s orbit and orientation toward the Sun indicate that our world should be just beginning to enter a new period of cooling — perhaps the next ice age" - this is only remotely accurate if you assume that "just beginning to enter" actually means 'in a few millennia, maybe'.

Next ice age not likely before 1,500 years: study
Reuters
Jan 9, 2012
(excerpts)
(Reuters) - High levels of carbon dioxide emissions in the atmosphere mean the next ice age is unlikely to begin for at least 1,500 years, an article in the journal Nature Geoscience said on Monday. Concentrations of the main gases blamed for global warming reached record levels in 2010 and will linger in the atmosphere for decades even if the world stopped pumping out emissions today, according to the U.N.'s weather agency.

Officially, the earth has been in an interglacial, or warmer period, for the last 10,000 to 15,000 years, and estimates vary on how long such periods last. "(Analysis) suggests that the end of the current interglacial (period) would occur within the next 1,500 years, if atmospheric CO2 concentrations do not exceed (around) 240 parts per million by volume (ppmv)," the study said. However, the current carbon dioxide concentration is of 390 ppmv, and at that level an increase in the volume of ice sheets would not be possible, it added. The world is forecast to grow hotter as greenhouse gases continue to rise, increasing threats such as extreme weather events and sea level rise. Scientists have warned that global temperature rise should be limited to within 2 degrees Celsius to avoid the worst effects of climate change but delays in curbing emissions growth are putting the planet at risk.

 

[RollingThunder]

Yes, he does....and he FALSIFY'S(sic) every one of them! He's an equal opportunity fraud.

Your denier cult myths, that you swallow without any evidence, are soooooo stupid. Dr. Hansen is one of the most highly respected and accomplished climate scientists in the world, and one of the most published, with many honors and awards from his peers. His work has been reviewed by hundreds of other climate scientists. Nothing was "falsified", you poor deluded cretin.

Dr James Hansen - Honors and awards

Hansen was elected to the National Academy of Sciences in 1996 for his "development of pioneering radiative transfer models and studies of planetary atmospheres; development of simplified and three-dimensional global climate models; explication of climate forcing mechanisms; analysis of current climate trends from observational data; and projections of anthropogenic impacts on the global climate system."[70] In 2001, he received the 7th Annual Heinz Award in the Environment (endowed with US$250,000) for his research on global warming,[71] and was listed as one of Time Magazine's 100 Most Influential People in 2006. Also in 2006, the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) selected James Hansen to receive their Award for Scientific Freedom and Responsibility "for his courageous and steadfast advocacy in support of scientists' responsibilities to communicate their scientific opinions and findings openly and honestly on matters of public importance."[72]

In 2007, Hansen shared the US $1 million Dan David Prize for "achievements having an outstanding scientific, technological, cultural or social impact on our world". In 2008, he received the PNC Bank Common Wealth Award of Distinguished Service for his "outstanding achievements" in science. At the end of 2008, Hansen was named by EarthSky Communications and a panel of 600 scientist-advisors as the Scientist Communicator of the Year, citing him as an "outspoken authority on climate change" who had "best communicated with the public about vital science issues or concepts during 2008."[73]

In 2009, Hansen was awarded the 2009 Carl-Gustaf Rossby Research Medal,[73] the highest honor bestowed by the American Meteorological Society, for his "outstanding contributions to climate modeling, understanding climate change forcings and sensitivity, and for clear communication of climate science in the public arena."[74]

Hansen won the 2010 Sophie Prize, set up in 1997 by Norwegian Jostein Gaarder, the author of the 1991 best-selling novel and teenagers' guide to philosophy "Sophie's World",[75] for his " key role for the development of our understanding of human-induced climate change."

Honors and awards? obama got a Nobel peace prize. That's how much I think about awards. If that piece of shit can get one for doing nothing anyone can get an award.

....says the retard loser who never got any awards. LOLOLOL.

 

[RollingThunder]

YOU are not me, when I say YOU it is YOU whom I am talking about. Damn moron doesn't even know what the word YOU means.

LOL. But little retard, it is you that is very retarded and without any comprehension skills and it is you that has a problem with the facts, as you have just repeatedly demonstrated in this thread. Everything you have claimed has been refuted and shown to be wrong. You are a clueless retarded brainwashed fool. Deal with it.

The only thing I have repeatedly demonstrated is just how much you are a retard. Have the adults left the house without locking up the computer pass word?

Your idiotic fantasies are belied by the content of your posts. Anyone can go back and see that every moronic bit of misinformation you posted was refuted by the facts.

 

[westwall]

You can't refute so you ignore what has been presented by the people that oppose you, so you resort to the name calling? Really?

What do you expect? He's 12.

 

[westwall]

NASA did not say that, retard. You're just too stupid to understand what you read.

Here's what NASA actually has to say about the Arctic ice.

Arctic Sea Ice Continues Decline, Hits Second-Lowest Level
NASA
Oct. 4, 2011
(govt. publication - free to reproduce)

WASHINGTON -- Last month the extent of sea ice covering the Arctic Ocean declined to the second-lowest extent on record. Satellite data from NASA and the NASA-supported National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) at the University of Colorado in Boulder showed that the summertime sea ice cover narrowly avoided a new record low.

The Arctic ice cap grows each winter as the sun sets for several months and shrinks each summer as the sun rises higher in the northern sky. Each year the Arctic sea ice reaches its annual minimum extent in September. It hit a record low in 2007.

The near-record ice-melt followed higher-than-average summer temperatures, but without the unusual weather conditions that contributed to the extreme melt of 2007. "Atmospheric and oceanic conditions were not as conducive to ice loss this year, but the melt still neared 2007 levels," said NSIDC scientist Walt Meier. "This probably reflects loss of multiyear ice in the Beaufort and Chukchi seas as well as other factors that are making the ice more vulnerable."

Joey Comiso, senior scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md., said the continued low minimum sea ice levels fits into the large-scale decline pattern that scientists have watched unfold over the past three decades.

"The sea ice is not only declining, the pace of the decline is becoming more drastic," Comiso said. "The older, thicker ice is declining faster than the rest, making for a more vulnerable perennial ice cover."

While the sea ice extent did not dip below the 2007 record, the sea ice area as measured by the microwave radiometer on NASA's Aqua satellite did drop slightly lower than 2007 levels for about 10 days in early September, Comiso said. Sea ice "area" differs from extent in that it equals the actual surface area covered by ice, while extent includes any area where ice covers at least 15 percent of the ocean.

Arctic sea ice extent on Sept. 9, the lowest point this year, was 4.33 million square kilometers (1.67 million square miles). Averaged over the month of September, ice extent was 4.61 million square kilometers (1.78 million square miles). This places 2011 as the second lowest ice extent both for the daily minimum extent and the monthly average. Ice extent was 2.43 million square kilometers (938,000 square miles) below the 1979 to 2000 average.

This summer's low ice extent continued the downward trend seen over the last 30 years, which scientists attribute largely to warming temperatures caused by climate change. Data show that Arctic sea ice has been declining both in extent and thickness. Since 1979, September Arctic sea ice extent has declined by 12 percent per decade.

"The oldest and thickest ice in the Arctic continues to decline, especially in the Beaufort Sea and the Canada Basin," NSIDC scientist Julienne Stroeve said. "This appears to be an important driver for the low sea ice conditions over the past few summers."

Climate models have suggested that the Arctic could lose almost all of its summer ice cover by 2100, but in recent years, ice extent has declined faster than the models predicted.

Sea ice? Your going to blame atmospheric CO2 on melting sea ice?

Yes. And the world's climate scientists all agree. Your doubt about it is based only on your own ignorance and general brainwashed rightwingnut stupidity.

How about shifting ocean currents?

How about pink unicorns, while you're at it. LOL.

Arctic sea ice continues to shrink, even in frigid winter
Alaska Dispatch
Jan 09, 2012
(excerpts)
Even as winter clamps down, our polar ice cap continues to dwindle. Despite the arrival of frigid winter temperatures north of Alaska, the sea ice of the Arctic Ocean ended 2011 far below average in both extent and volume, continuing its decades-long shrink toward summer oblivion, according to the most recent estimates posted online by polar observers. The total mass of ice -- its surface footprint plus the bulk hidden beneath the surface -- has never been lower for this time of year. The area covered was third smallest since 1979, with vast areas of ocean north of Europe remaining ice-free.

The polar cap has now lost almost half of its December volume since 1979 -- with much of the thick, multi-year ice that previously formed the ice cap's bedrock, so to speak, exiting into the Atlantic Ocean during summers. The total amount of ice in the Arctic remained at least 37 percent below the long-term average, explained a new analysis that drew on computer models, satellite feeds and observations by ships and submarines. Ice volume as of Dec. 31 was estimated to be lower than any previous New Year's Eve on record, as depicted on this chart posted by the Polar Science Center at the University of Washington.

The area of the Arctic Ocean covered by at least 15 percent floes averaged only about 4.78 million square miles during December -- the third lowest seen for that month since satellite monitoring began in 1979, the NSIDC said. Only Decembers of 2006 and 2010 were lower for that month, but the five of the six lowest Decembers have all occurred during the past six years. To put this loss into perspective, the Arctic has been losing 3.5 percent of its December ice cover per decade for a generation. An ice-bound wilderness larger than Washington, Oregon, California and Texas combined has completely disappeared from the Far North’s early winter habitat.

Well crap. They're lying. Who woulda thunk it.

 

[westwall]

LOL. But little retard, it is you that is very retarded and without any comprehension skills and it is you that has a problem with the facts, as you have just repeatedly demonstrated in this thread. Everything you have claimed has been refuted and shown to be wrong. You are a clueless retarded brainwashed fool. Deal with it.

The only thing I have repeatedly demonstrated is just how much you are a retard. Have the adults left the house without locking up the computer pass word?

Your idiotic fantasies are belied by the content of your posts. Anyone can go back and see that every moronic bit of misinformation you posted was refuted by the facts.

Yes, every one of your baseless and fraudulent assertions has indeed been refuted by cold hard facts. Just like the graph puts the ice loss assertion to bed. Thanks for playing!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

LOL. But little retard, it is you that is very retarded and without any comprehension skills and it is you that has a problem with the facts, as you have just repeatedly demonstrated in this thread. Everything you have claimed has been refuted and shown to be wrong. You are a clueless retarded brainwashed fool. Deal with it.

The only thing I have repeatedly demonstrated is just how much you are a retard. Have the adults left the house without locking up the computer pass word?

Your idiotic fantasies are belied by the content of your posts. Anyone can go back and see that every moronic bit of misinformation you posted was refuted by the facts.

From the first post you made you have insulted anyone that didn't have your opinion I understand it's hard to try and get people to support a fantasy. But adults live in the real world. You live in a fantasy world.

 

[daveman]

Still talking to yourself. Nailed it, too.

YOU are not me, when I say YOU it is YOU whom I am talking about. Damn moron doesn't even know what the word YOU means.

LOL. But little retard, it is you that is very retarded and without any comprehension skills and it is you that has a problem with the facts, as you have just repeatedly demonstrated in this thread. Everything you have claimed has been refuted and shown to be wrong. You are a clueless retarded brainwashed fool. Deal with it.

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