It's still getting hotter

[mamooth]

He likes more "capacity" that generates less actual reliable electricity.

Todd is a big fan of the Texas failure-model of a power grid, designed to have the fossil fuel plants fail and jack up prices.

And when that was happening, the renewables were the reliable thing.

 

[mamooth]

The planet warms

The oceans keep warming as the atmosphere warms, proving your crank theory is wrong.

It doesn't matter how much nonsense you babble, how fervently you deflect, or how upset you get about being wrong. The facts say you're wrong, so you're wrong.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Todd is a big fan of the Texas failure-model of a power grid, designed to fail and jack up prices.

And when that was happening, the renewables were the reliable thing.

How much solar do we need to install in Chicago to power us during
a cold, dark, snowy February?

Twice the capacity of a typical day's usage?
Triple? Quadruple? More?

 

[ding]

The oceans keep warming as the atmosphere warms, proving your crank theory is wrong.

It doesn't matter how much nonsense you babble, how fervently you deflect, or how upset you get about being wrong. The facts say you're wrong, so you're wrong.

The ocean is warming because the sun is shining on it and the northern hemisphere is deglaciating because heat is being circulated from the Atlantic to the Arctic. If heat from the Atlantic wasn't being circulated to the Arctic the planet would be cooling even as the sun continued to shine upon it. You are a moron.

 

[Crick]

The sun has done NOTHING that could have caused the oceans to warm as they have in the last 50 years. Besides the lack of any trend in the TSI data, note the fucking scale of this graph. The 11-year variance is essentially 1/1366th or 7 one-hundredths of one percent.

 

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The sun has done NOTHING that could have caused the oceans to warm as they have in the last 50 years. Besides the lack of any trend in the TSI data, note the fucking scale of this graph. The 11-year variance is essentially 1/1366th or 7 one-hundredths of one percent.

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The sun is always warming the oceans. Heat builds up in the ocean and the atmosphere when the Atlantic circulates that heat to the Arctic and the northern hemisphere deglaciates. When heat circulation is disrupted from the Atlantic to the Arctic the northern hemisphere glaciates and the ocean and the atmosphere cools.

So it's not about the strength of the sun, dummy, it's how the ocean distributes that heat and the corresponding change that occurs in the northern hemisphere. It's either glaciating or deglaciating.

 

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The sun has done NOTHING that could have caused the oceans to warm as they have in the last 50 years.

It's funny that you think the atmosphere has more of an effect than the sun does.

The ocean is the largest solar collector on the planet.

According to you the atmosphere is only 1.5C warmer and you think a 1.5C difference matters? Really? The atmosphere is only 1/300th the mass of the ocean. There's no real heat being stored in the atmosphere. Air is a poor conductor of heat.

Hilarious. Maybe do some math.

 

[Crick]

It's funny that you think the atmosphere has more of an effect than the sun does.

You need to stop lying about what I have and have not said.

The ocean is the largest solar collector on the planet.

That doesn't help you.

According to you the atmosphere is only 1.5C warmer and you think a 1.5C difference matters?

Your ignorance just blows me away, over and over and over again. That 1.5C INCLUDES the increased temperature of the ocean. As you can probably figure, it is, in fact the largest part of it. God are you fucking STUPID!!!

Really? The atmosphere is only 1/300th the mass of the ocean. There's no real heat being stored in the atmosphere. Air is a poor conductor of heat.

Hilarious. Maybe do some math.

Any normal person would have quit this self-debasement a long time ago.

 

[ding]

You need to stop lying about what I have and have not said.

That doesn't help you.

Your ignorance just blows me away, over and over and over again. That 1.5C INCLUDES the increased temperature of the ocean. As you can probably figure, it is, in fact the largest part of it. God are you fucking STUPID!!!

Any normal person would have quit this self-debasement a long time ago.

Ocean currents establish climate.
The ocean is the largest collector of solar energy.
The ocean stores the majority of the planet's heat.
The ocean is the largest feature of the planet.
The mass of the ocean is 300 times the mass of the atmosphere.
The ocean contains 1000 times more heat than the ocean.
The ocean heats the atmosphere.
The atmosphere does not heat the ocean.
Physical evidence shows that when ocean currents change, the climate changes.
Physical evidence shows ocean currents are responsible for northern hemisphere glaciation.
Physical evidence shows ocean currents are responsible for the initiation of the Little Ice Age.
Physical evidence shows ocean currents are responsible for the end of the Little Ice Age.
The current warming trend began 250 years before the industrial revolution.
The geologic record is littered with examples of naturally caused warming and cooling trends.
Empirical climate evidence shows the planet cooled for millions of years with >600 ppm of CO2.
The last interglacial period was 2C warmer with 26ft higher seas and 120ppm less CO2 than today.

 

[Crick]

Ocean currents establish climate.
The ocean is the largest collector of solar energy.
The ocean stores the majority of the planet's heat.
The ocean is the largest feature of the planet.
The mass of the ocean is 300 times the mass of the atmosphere.
The ocean contains 1000 times more heat than the ocean.
The ocean heats the atmosphere.
The atmosphere does not heat the ocean.
Physical evidence shows that when ocean currents change, the climate changes.
Physical evidence shows ocean currents are responsible for northern hemisphere glaciation.
Physical evidence shows ocean currents are responsible for the initiation of the Little Ice Age.
Physical evidence shows ocean currents are responsible for the end of the Little Ice Age.
The current warming trend began 250 years before the industrial revolution.
The geologic record is littered with examples of naturally caused warming and cooling trends.
Empirical climate evidence shows the planet cooled for millions of years with >600 ppm of CO2.
The last interglacial period was 2C warmer with 26ft higher seas and 120ppm less CO2 than today.

Shove your head up your ass and JUMP!!!

 

[ding]

Shove your head up your ass and JUMP!!!

That's priceless.

 

[Crick]

That's priceless.

Go fuck yourself you braindead slimeball ratfuck asshole.