More than 500 legal scholars agree that Trump has committed impeachable offenses

[Harpy Eagle]

Many No one knows the number but enough to perhaps keep this yellowbelly pos out of our WH

Many

You weren't dumb enough to change your vote based on a Facebook meme?

Do people change their votes based upon TV ads and robocalls?

Do you?

Nope, but in 2016 candidates spent 4.4 billion dollars on TV ads...clearly they think they have an impact. Are they just wasting them money?

Are those companies that pay a million dollars for 30 second ad in the super bowl just wasting their money?

Nope, but in 2016 candidates spent 4.4 billion dollars on TV ads...

And Russians spent...…$100,000?

Do you believe that ads change people's minds? Simple yes or no will suffice.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Many

You weren't dumb enough to change your vote based on a Facebook meme?

Do people change their votes based upon TV ads and robocalls?

Do you?

Nope, but in 2016 candidates spent 4.4 billion dollars on TV ads...clearly they think they have an impact. Are they just wasting them money?

Are those companies that pay a million dollars for 30 second ad in the super bowl just wasting their money?

Nope, but in 2016 candidates spent 4.4 billion dollars on TV ads...

And Russians spent...…$100,000?

Do you believe that ads change people's minds? Simple yes or no will suffice.

Do you believe that Russian ads changed people's minds?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Do you believe that Russian ads changed people's minds?

Answer my question first...

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Do you believe that Russian ads changed people's minds?

Answer my question first...

Sometimes.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Do you believe that Russian ads changed people's minds?

Answer my question first...

Sometimes.

Thanks.

I think that ads can have an impact, probably more than any of us think. The amount of money spent on advertising in this country is staggering, I do not think that companies are dumb enough to spend it without a good reason.

So, based upon that I would say that the Russian ads had the same effect as any other ad

 

[Zorro!]

Where is the evidence that Trump is making it a shithole?

Nice when "progressives" tell us what they really think about US.

Yesterday was a GREAT day for Trump!

Democrats have not a shred of evidence for any allegation they have made about Donald Trump for three-and-a-half, going on four years. Meanwhile Trump keeps plugging away. The economy is roaring, its future looks great, wages are up, Trump's job approval numbers are up.

Frank Miele, the retired editor of the Daily Inter Lake in Kalispell Montana, wrote,

"No matter how many flags and prayers Speaker Pelosi wraps herself in, she is still standing naked before the American people as the author of the greatest insurrection against constitutional authority in more than 150 years. As the whistleblower’s attorney noted prophetically on Twitter in January 2017, '#coup has started. First of many steps. #rebellion. #impeachment will follow ultimately.'​

"Fortunately, the revolution now moves on to the Senate, it WILL be televised, and it will fail miserably. Madame Speaker, delete your account."​

Washington thinks the opposition to impeachment stems from good PR.

David M. Drucker wrote,

"When House Speaker Nancy Pelosi greenlighted the impeachment proceedings in September, Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy made a key tactical decision: He would not worry about blocking it but focus instead on shaping public opinion and influencing lawmakers poised to sit as jurors in a Senate trial.​

"The California Republican spent four-plus years as whip, his party’s chief House vote counter. He intuitively understood that if a previously reluctant Pelosi had opted to put her political muscle behind impeachment, there was little Republicans could do to stop her 233 Democrats from voting for it.​

"McCarthy began huddling with his leadership team and top committee lieutenants, while consulting closely with former congressman Trey Gowdy, to develop a strategy that would unify Republicans in opposition and sow public distrust in the process. Together, they calculated that convincing voters the Democrat-run investigation was unfair, as McCarthy's brain trust initially suspected and came to believe, it would sully the outcome no matter how compelling were the allegations against Trump."​

Salesmanship was involved.

Sure.

But it was like selling steak to a hungry man.

After 4 years of Democrats refusing to accept the election results, President Donald John Trump's supporters have had it and they are not budging.

Meanwhile, after 4 years of watching Wile E. Coyote, the other side is tired of this Road Runner cartoon and changing channels.

The Daily Caller joyfully reported, "CNN Hits Three-Year Ratings Low Amid Impeachment Drama."

Meanwhile, the deplorables laugh at them. We are having fun. Fun is the one thing that money can't buy.

Ace of Spades (and others) mocked a column on the failure of impeachment to catch fire that Margaret Sullivan, the media maven of Jeff Bezos's Washington Post, wrote.

She wrote, "After endless testimony, reporting and punditry, maybe it’s time to do something different."​

Maybe they should try some journalism and stop calling every utterance of some resistance deep stater a bombshell.

Nyah, she wrote,

"Columbia University journalism professor Bill Grueskin suggests the movie-trailer approach. In a message, he explains: 'Studios spend a $1 million or more on a trailer, because they know it’s essential to boil down the essentials of the film — explaining but not giving away the plot, providing a quick but intense insight into the characters, setting the scene with vivid imagery — to entice people to come back to the theatre a month later for the full movie.'"​

Heaven's Gate had a good trailer.

Ace wrote, "Does the media think there's any coming back from this?

"I think they don't think there's any coming back from this -- I think they realize that they made it all too obvious three or four years ago.​

"No one believes them any longer -- not even their progressive customer base actually believes them; their progressive customer base merely supports their lying to others for shared goals -- and they're now just an all-but-admitted propaganda industry, and the only way out is through."​

Of course there is no coming back. Journalism is a dying trade. Nationally, we went from 114,000 paid journalists to 86,000 in the last 9 years. We could get by with half that.

But a few people in the trade get it. Jake Novak at CNBC wrote, "Democrats need to realize that impeaching Trump may not accomplish anything at all."

Novak said, "As the impeachment process moves forward and likely moves to a trial in the Senate, the Democrats are getting what amounts to a free 24/7 negative political ad against Trump on the TV news networks.​

"So what else is new?​

"In case you haven’t noticed. Just about all the TV news coverage of this president has been negative and those networks have barely covered anything else. A recent study by the conservative Media Research Council found that 96% of network news stories covering President Trump were negative since the impeachment inquiry began. But that’s only 4% points higher than the same group’s results from a study about one year ago."​

The media is impotent, not important.

Democrats went all in on the media. President Trump wisely ran against it.

He also said he would Make America Great Again.



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-266k new jobs
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-Unemployment at 50 yr low
-Wages up 3%

Less taxes and regulation, more freedom for you and your family. Get gov’t out of the way, and the economy booms.

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Small wonder Democrats want him impeached. A successful people don't need handouts from the Democrats.

FU youve been taking handouts from the dems for 50 years or more medi care SS etc etc

Dims are paying for these programs? I thought they took the money out of my check.

Who hasn't taken money from your check?? Dems just don't give it to the 1%

What happened to the rich/poor gap under Obama?

President Trump’s Policies Continue to Benefit All Americans, Especially the Disadvantaged.

The Census Bureau released its official measures of the economic well-being of Americans in 2018. While Americans across the board generally saw improvements, the data show that in many cases those who had been forgotten in the past were lifted up the most.

Real median household income increased to more than $63,000 in 2018, the highest level in nearly two decades. A growing economy that produces more jobs and higher earnings has driven the improvement in economic well-being. There were 2.3 million more full-time, year-round workers in 2018 than in 2017, of which 1.6 million were women.

With incomes rising for Americans, the poverty rate fell to its lowest level since 2001. The poverty rate fell by 0.5 percentage points to 11.8 percent in 2018, following a 0.4 percentage point decline in 2017—or almost a full point drop over the first two years of the Administration. Since 2017, 1.4 million Americans have been lifted out of poverty. The decline in the official poverty rate mirrors a 0.7 percentage point decline in food insecurity in 2018, reported last month by the Department of Agriculture, even as 4.2 million people were lifted off of food stamps during the year.

Disadvantaged groups experienced the largest poverty reductions in 2018. The poverty rate fell by 0.9 percentage points for black Americans and by 0.8 percentage points for Hispanic Americans, with both groups reaching historic lows (see figure 1). The poverty rates for black and Hispanic Americans in 2018 have never been closer to the overall poverty rate in the United States. Children fared especially well in 2018, with a 1.2 percentage point decrease in poverty for those under 18. Poverty among single mothers with children fell by 2.5 percentage points.

As incomes rose, inequality fell. The share of income held by the top 20 percent fell by the largest amount in over a decade, as did the Gini index (an overall measure of inequality in the population). In fact, households between the 20th and 40th percentile of the distribution experienced the largest increase in average household income among all quintiles in 2018, with a gain of 2.5 percent.

President Trump’s Policies Continue to Benefit All Americans, Especially the Disadvantaged | The White House

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Do you believe that Russian ads changed people's minds?

Answer my question first...

Sometimes.

Thanks.

I think that ads can have an impact, probably more than any of us think. The amount of money spent on advertising in this country is staggering, I do not think that companies are dumb enough to spend it without a good reason.

So, based upon that I would say that the Russian ads had the same effect as any other ad

So, based upon that I would say that the Russian ads had the same effect as any other ad

So $100,000 spent on Facebook ads compared to Hillary's $1 billion spent on ads...….

 

[Leo123]

From what I can gather it seems that there are over 17,000 faculty employed in law schools in the U.S. Aren't they all "law scholars"? If you do the math it seems that 500 radical leftie professors who hate the President is a pretty small number among "law scholars".

They just stopped counting at 500 Probably could have had all 17000

Can you produce proof of the law credentials of say, 20 of these 500?

edward37 just pulls that shit out h

False. It is still the conclusion of the entire intelligence community and of the special counsel's report that russia assisted trump in the 2016 election and trump welcomed the help.

I know being in your little right wing nutsack...er, bubble makes you think that nobody cares, but people outside the rightwing nutsack still care.

Democrats have NOT given up on the fake collusion line? Who knew?

Yeah Markle who to believe ?? You and trump or the 16 agencies with some pretty smart folks working for the people?

I don't believe any government agency and I can assure you that NONE of them have 'pretty smart folks' otherwise they wouldn't have to be bureaucrats.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Do you believe that Russian ads changed people's minds?

Answer my question first...

Sometimes.

Thanks.

I think that ads can have an impact, probably more than any of us think. The amount of money spent on advertising in this country is staggering, I do not think that companies are dumb enough to spend it without a good reason.

So, based upon that I would say that the Russian ads had the same effect as any other ad

So, based upon that I would say that the Russian ads had the same effect as any other ad

So $100,000 spent on Facebook ads compared to Hillary's $1 billion spent on ads...….

Did I say that?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Do you believe that Russian ads changed people's minds?

Answer my question first...

Sometimes.

Thanks.

I think that ads can have an impact, probably more than any of us think. The amount of money spent on advertising in this country is staggering, I do not think that companies are dumb enough to spend it without a good reason.

So, based upon that I would say that the Russian ads had the same effect as any other ad

So, based upon that I would say that the Russian ads had the same effect as any other ad

So $100,000 spent on Facebook ads compared to Hillary's $1 billion spent on ads...….

Did I say that?

Do you dispute either figure?
Hillary spent, I think, twice what Trump spent.
Compared to a few dozen votes bought by Russian ads? Maybe.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Answer my question first...

Sometimes.

Thanks.

I think that ads can have an impact, probably more than any of us think. The amount of money spent on advertising in this country is staggering, I do not think that companies are dumb enough to spend it without a good reason.

So, based upon that I would say that the Russian ads had the same effect as any other ad

So, based upon that I would say that the Russian ads had the same effect as any other ad

So $100,000 spent on Facebook ads compared to Hillary's $1 billion spent on ads...….

Did I say that?

Do you dispute either figure?
Hillary spent, I think, twice what Trump spent.
Compared to a few dozen votes bought by Russian ads? Maybe.

Nobody has any idea how much was done on FB to influence the election.

A fake account spreading fake news does not cost a dime and could reach millions if it gets repeated enough.

 

[edward37]

From what I can gather it seems that there are over 17,000 faculty employed in law schools in the U.S. Aren't they all "law scholars"? If you do the math it seems that 500 radical leftie professors who hate the President is a pretty small number among "law scholars".

They just stopped counting at 500 Probably could have had all 17000

Can you produce proof of the law credentials of say, 20 of these 500?

edward37 just pulls that shit out h

False. It is still the conclusion of the entire intelligence community and of the special counsel's report that russia assisted trump in the 2016 election and trump welcomed the help.

I know being in your little right wing nutsack...er, bubble makes you think that nobody cares, but people outside the rightwing nutsack still care.

Democrats have NOT given up on the fake collusion line? Who knew?

Yeah Markle who to believe ?? You and trump or the 16 agencies with some pretty smart folks working for the people?

I don't believe any government agency and I can assure you that NONE of them have 'pretty smart folks' otherwise they wouldn't have to be bureaucrats.

But trump is smart ,,not a devious pk?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Sometimes.

Thanks.

I think that ads can have an impact, probably more than any of us think. The amount of money spent on advertising in this country is staggering, I do not think that companies are dumb enough to spend it without a good reason.

So, based upon that I would say that the Russian ads had the same effect as any other ad

So, based upon that I would say that the Russian ads had the same effect as any other ad

So $100,000 spent on Facebook ads compared to Hillary's $1 billion spent on ads...….

Did I say that?

Do you dispute either figure?
Hillary spent, I think, twice what Trump spent.
Compared to a few dozen votes bought by Russian ads? Maybe.

Nobody has any idea how much was done on FB to influence the election.

A fake account spreading fake news does not cost a dime and could reach millions if it gets repeated enough.

Nobody has any idea how much was done on FB to influence the election.

Memes and a few ads.

A fake account spreading fake news does not cost a dime and could reach millions if it gets repeated enough.​

I agree, Dem voters are morons. ​

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Nobody has any idea how much was done on FB to influence the election.

Memes and a few ads.

and you know this how? Were you part of the operation?

A fake account spreading fake news does not cost a dime and could reach millions if it gets repeated enough.

I agree, Dem voters are morons. ​

Duopoly voters are morons.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nobody has any idea how much was done on FB to influence the election.

Memes and a few ads.

and you know this how? Were you part of the operation?

A fake account spreading fake news does not cost a dime and could reach millions if it gets repeated enough.

I agree, Dem voters are morons. ​

Duopoly voters are morons.

and you know this how?

It was in all the papers.
Dems were whining for months. Facebook apologized.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Nobody has any idea how much was done on FB to influence the election.

Memes and a few ads.

and you know this how? Were you part of the operation?

A fake account spreading fake news does not cost a dime and could reach millions if it gets repeated enough.

I agree, Dem voters are morons. ​

Duopoly voters are morons.

and you know this how?

It was in all the papers.
Dems were whining for months. Facebook apologized.

Oh, it was in the papers...it has to be true then.

Thanks!

Carry on

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nobody has any idea how much was done on FB to influence the election.

Memes and a few ads.

and you know this how? Were you part of the operation?

A fake account spreading fake news does not cost a dime and could reach millions if it gets repeated enough.

I agree, Dem voters are morons. ​

Duopoly voters are morons.

and you know this how?

It was in all the papers.
Dems were whining for months. Facebook apologized.

Oh, it was in the papers...it has to be true then.

Thanks!

Carry on

Glad to help.

 

[whitehall]

Sign a petition and get confirmed as a "legal scholar". The crazy left is deteriorating into a stale joke.

 

[Leo123]

But trump is smart ,,not a devious pk?

Yep, that's why I voted for him to clean out the corrupt, tax-spending bureaucrat career government cesspool. Anyone calling Trump 'devious' is themselves devious. It's a Marxist tactic...Blame others who are innocent but with whom you disagree, for the wrong doing you yourself are doing. You represent that tactic.

 

[candycorn]

clearly using the powers of the presidency to dig up dirt on a political rival is an impeachable offense as it is an abuse of power.

accepting such behavior shows how crooked the Republicans are

This article that Zorro posted was great, read it.

What you are saying is that the family of elites should face no accountability for corrupt behavior. That sounds absurd in my book.

Defining a Theory of ‘Bribery’ for Impeachment
Defining a Theory of ‘Bribery’ for Impeachment
". . . In the American political tradition, officeholders, candidates and their families do not get a free pass—even when they are the political opponents of the president. Indeed, we think Trump would have abdicated his duty if he refused to push for an investigation that was otherwise warranted. Failing to investigate conduct that otherwise warranted an investigation would itself create allegations of improper conduct, and rightly so. Trump cannot escape that difficult choice and political responsibility for it merely by saying: My political opponent’s son must not face any accountability because he is my rival’s son.. . ."

again, what other Americans was Trump trying to put in the crosshairs on the phone call?

It really doesn't matter.

If the Biden's are guilty of a crime. . . It was his job to root out corruption in our administrative dealing with other nations.

Once the investigation commenced, I have heard that the other Americans that were involved in this corruption were friends of the Kerry's and the Pelosi family. . . though I am not positive of the details.

A lot of folks associated with the Obama administration profited from the neo-nazi coup that was funded and supported by the State Department.

Are you really this uninformed?

RAY McGOVERN: Ukraine For Dummies
RAY McGOVERN: Ukraine For Dummies



The Untold Story of the Trump-Ukraine ‘Scandal’: The Routine Corruption of US Foreign Policy
The Untold Story of the Trump-Ukraine 'Scandal': The Routine Corruption of US Foreign Policy

". . . . We know from the leaked, early 2014 telephone conversation between Victoria Nuland, then assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs, and Geoffrey Pyatt, then U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, that then Vice President Biden played a role in “midwifing” the U.S.-backed overthrow of an elected Ukrainian government soon after that conversation.

That’s the biggest crime in this story that isn’t being told. The illegal overthrow of a sovereign government.

As booty from the coup, the sitting vice president’s son, Hunter Biden, soon got a seat on the board of Ukraine’s biggest gas producer, Burisma Holdings. This can only be seen as a transparently neocolonial maneuver to take over a country and install one’s own people. But Biden’s son wasn’t the only one.


Left to right: Kerry, post-coup president Petro Poroshenko, Pyatt and Nuland, June 2014. (State Dept.)

A family friend of then Secretary of State John Kerry also joined Burisma’s board. U.S. agricultural giant Monsanto got a Ukrainian contract soon after the overthrow. And the first, post-coup Ukrainian finance minister was an American citizen, a former State Department official, who was given Ukrainian citizenship the day before she took up the post.

After a Ukrainian prosecutor began looking into possible corruption at Burisma, Biden openly admitted at a conference last year that as vice president he withheld a $1 billion credit line to Ukraine until the government fired the prosecutor. As Biden says himself, it took only six hours for it to happen.

Exactly what Biden boasted of doing is what the Democrats are now accusing Trump of doing, and it isn’t clear if Trump got what he wanted as Biden did.

Threats, Bribes and Blackmail

That leads to another major part of this story not being told: the routine way the U.S. government conducts foreign policy: with bribes, threats and blackmail.

Trump may have withheld military aid to seek a probe into Biden, but it is hypocritically being framed by Democrats as an abuse of power out of the ordinary. But it is very much ordinary.

Examples abound. The threat of withholding foreign aid was wielded against nations on the UN Security Council in 1991 when the U.S. sought authorization for the First Gulf War. Yemen had the temerity to vote against. A member of the U.S. delegation told Yemen’s ambassador: “That’s the most expensive vote you ever cast.” The U.S. then cut $70 million in foreign aid to the Middle East’s poorest nation, and Saudi Arabia repatriated about a million Yemeni workers.

The same thing happened before the Second Gulf War in 2003, as revealed by whistleblower Katharine Gun (who will appear Friday night on CN Live!). Gun leaked an NSA memo that showed the U.S. sought help from its British counterpart in signals intelligence to spy on the missions of Security Council members to get “leverage” over them to influence their vote to authorize the invasion of Iraq.

In 2001 the U.S. threatened the end of military and foreign aid if nations did not conclude bilateral agreements granting immunity to U.S. troops before the International Criminal Court.

More recently, the U.S. used its muscle against Ecuador, including dangling a $10 billion IMF loan, in exchange for the expulsion of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange from its London embassy.

This is how the U.S. conducts “diplomacy.”

As former UN Secretary General Boutros Boutros Ghali wrote:

“Coming from a developing country, I was trained extensively in international law and diplomacy and mistakenly assumed that the great powers, especially the United States, also trained their representatives in diplomacy and accepted the value of it. But the Roman Empire had no need for diplomacy. Nor does the United States. Diplomacy is perceived by an imperial power as a waste of time and prestige and a sign of weakness.”

This fundamental corruption of U.S. foreign policy, which includes overthrowing elected governments, is matched only by the corruption of a political system that exalts partisan political power above all else. Exposing this deep-seated and longstanding corruption should take precedence over scoring partisan scalps, whether Biden’s or Trump’s."

It doesn’t matter...correct. The Senate isn’t interested in doing it’s duty.

If the House was interested in doing IT'S duty, all the corruption of the Ukrainian coup, and the assorted spoils that went along with it would come to light, so that the American people would know why Trump was doing what he was doing.

It would not even go to the Senate for trial.

Waste of time.

The House is doing its duty. Trump is corrupt. It’s as simple as that.