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They created a Secular Government. Now why is that?For a Christian nation, it's odd how how they never mentioned God? Oh wait, it isn't after all. Try to deal with that just as we deal with the fact that they were moatly Christian men, which still doesn't mean you can pass Christian laws.
Of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence, all of them were Christians:
Episcopalian/Anglican - 28
Congregationalist - 11
Presbyterian - 12
Quaker - 2
Unitarian/Universalist - 2
Catholic - 1
TOTAL - 56 - 100%
But you think these Christians created a secular document with the imposition of gay marriage/wedding cakes in mind....?
That must have been why he took a knife to the Bible and cut out all the "miracle" parts then eh? Very sneaky...Jesus Christ is referred to in the Constitution.
No little one, He isn't.
You are wrong sir.
Back then he used the handle "Thomas Jefferson".
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That's not a bad answer actually. I'm quite pleased that coming from you.Wisdom.They created a Secular Government. Now why is that?Of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence, all of them were Christians:
Episcopalian/Anglican - 28
Congregationalist - 11
Presbyterian - 12
Quaker - 2
Unitarian/Universalist - 2
Catholic - 1
TOTAL - 56 - 100%
But you think these Christians created a secular document with the imposition of gay marriage/wedding cakes in mind....?
Anything you got...Shall we wager?No little one, He isn't.
Ah, no, you couldn't, unless you were a damn fool. The Constitution forms a Secular Government. There's no voting, no rights, no tolerance for other faiths, no election of who will lead the flock in Christianity. There is God, one God, above all others and thou shall serve no other unless thou likes it very, very warm......you could say the Constitution is part of Christianity.....
So, where does the truth lie? There is no denying that the Enlightenment influenced the Founders, but does a partial influence make American political origins solely a product of the Enlightenment? To answer this and other questions we have asked, we must grapple with yet another: How much of the Constitution is derived from concepts of the Enlightenment and how much implies the Christian world view and a respect for natural law? A close reading of the Constitution lends any fair-minded reader to the inescapable conclusion: divorced from natural law and Christian principles, the Constitution would be utterly incomprehensible — a philosophical mish-mash devoid of cogent argument, compelling moral vision, or unifying principles.
However, the proof for this thesis is somewhat indirect because there are no Christian principles per se embedded in the Constitution: rather, the Constitution is embedded in Christianity. The Constitution does not declare principles, it provides for their implementation. It considers the principles on which America is founded so self-evident it does not even name much less defend them. In its short Preamble the Constitution briefly mentions, without defining, justice, general welfare and the blessings of liberty, clearly indicating that these are commonly accepted ends.
In fact, what is not in the Constitution is, in some ways, more interesting than what is. More interesting still are the presuppositions that these omissions suggest. I do not mean things already contained in the Declaration of Independence, but those that are not mentioned at all, things that might be considered truisms. But the problem with isms, as G.K. Chesterton once said, is that people forget that they are true. So, the truisms that the Constitution omits because it takes them for granted, can tell us much more about what the Founding Fathers intended than we might think. Indeed, the Constitution is implicitly Christian — in fact, I will argue — so deeply Christian — taking its Christianity so much for granted — that its framers felt no need to make their reliance on Christian tenets explicit.
The Truths They Held: The Christian and Natural Law Background to the Ameri
Anything you got...Shall we wager?No little one, He isn't.
"Article. VII.Luckily for you I have everything I've ever wanted, save the eradication of ignorance.Anything you got...Shall we wager?
But I work toward that case by case.
In your case, it is about to occur.
Second paragraph of Article VII.
Post it, please.
And never make that mistake again.
"Article. VII.Luckily for you I have everything I've ever wanted, save the eradication of ignorance.Anything you got...
But I work toward that case by case.
In your case, it is about to occur.
Second paragraph of Article VII.
Post it, please.
And never make that mistake again.
The Ratification of the Conventions of nine States, shall be sufficient for the Establishment of this Constitution between the States so ratifying the Same.
The Word, "the," being interlined between the seventh and eighth Lines of the first Page, the Word "Thirty" being partly written on an Erazure in the fifteenth Line of the first Page, The Words "is tried" being interlined between the thirty second and thirty third Lines of the first Page and the Word "the" being interlined between the forty third and forty fourth Lines of the second Page.
Attest William Jackson Secretary
done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independance of the United States of America the Twelfth In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names,..."
So, you think that's Jesus eh, and not proofreading, edits to the existing document portions not previously voted on?
"Article VII"Article. VII.Luckily for you I have everything I've ever wanted, save the eradication of ignorance.
But I work toward that case by case.
In your case, it is about to occur.
Second paragraph of Article VII.
Post it, please.
And never make that mistake again.
The Ratification of the Conventions of nine States, shall be sufficient for the Establishment of this Constitution between the States so ratifying the Same.
The Word, "the," being interlined between the seventh and eighth Lines of the first Page, the Word "Thirty" being partly written on an Erazure in the fifteenth Line of the first Page, The Words "is tried" being interlined between the thirty second and thirty third Lines of the first Page and the Word "the" being interlined between the forty third and forty fourth Lines of the second Page.
Attest William Jackson Secretary
done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independance of the United States of America the Twelfth In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names,..."
So, you think that's Jesus eh, and not proofreading, edits to the existing document portions not previously voted on?
One should never expect anything honorable from a Liberal...and sure enough, no 'you are correct' from you.
Of course, I am correct.
As you have posted, this, from Article VII of the United States Constitution:
"...the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven..."
A clear and unambiguouos reference to Jesus Christ.
Now....you may try to spin this.....Spin…altering the truth without altering the facts......but you cannot deny it.
Don't be a cur, admit you've learned something today.
Anything you got...Shall we wager?
"Article VII"Article. VII.
The Ratification of the Conventions of nine States, shall be sufficient for the Establishment of this Constitution between the States so ratifying the Same.
The Word, "the," being interlined between the seventh and eighth Lines of the first Page, the Word "Thirty" being partly written on an Erazure in the fifteenth Line of the first Page, The Words "is tried" being interlined between the thirty second and thirty third Lines of the first Page and the Word "the" being interlined between the forty third and forty fourth Lines of the second Page.
Attest William Jackson Secretary
done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independance of the United States of America the Twelfth In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names,..."
So, you think that's Jesus eh, and not proofreading, edits to the existing document portions not previously voted on?
One should never expect anything honorable from a Liberal...and sure enough, no 'you are correct' from you.
Of course, I am correct.
As you have posted, this, from Article VII of the United States Constitution:
"...the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven..."
A clear and unambiguouos reference to Jesus Christ.
Now....you may try to spin this.....Spin altering the truth without altering the facts......but you cannot deny it.
Don't be a cur, admit you've learned something today.
The Ratification of the Conventions of nine States, shall be sufficient for the Establishment of this Constitution between the States so ratifying the Same.
The Constitutional Convention met under the Government of the Articles of Confederation, which required unanimous assent of all 13 states to change any provisions of the Articles. Nevertheless, the Constitution mandated that the new government would go into effect when nine of the 13 states acted affirmatively."
U.S. Senate: Reference Home > Constitution of the United States
Click on the link from the US Senate and tell us?"Article VIIOne should never expect anything honorable from a Liberal...and sure enough, no 'you are correct' from you.
Of course, I am correct.
As you have posted, this, from Article VII of the United States Constitution:
"...the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven..."
A clear and unambiguouos reference to Jesus Christ.
Now....you may try to spin this.....Spin…altering the truth without altering the facts......but you cannot deny it.
Don't be a cur, admit you've learned something today.
The Ratification of the Conventions of nine States, shall be sufficient for the Establishment of this Constitution between the States so ratifying the Same.
The Constitutional Convention met under the Government of the Articles of Confederation, which required unanimous assent of all 13 states to change any provisions of the Articles. Nevertheless, the Constitution mandated that the new government would go into effect when nine of the 13 states acted affirmatively."
U.S. Senate: Reference Home > Constitution of the United States
Spin…altering the truth without altering the facts.
The following can be found in Article VII of every copy of the United States Constitution.
"Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the twelfth...."
Was I correct?
Click on the link from the US Senate and tell us?"Article VII
The Ratification of the Conventions of nine States, shall be sufficient for the Establishment of this Constitution between the States so ratifying the Same.
The Constitutional Convention met under the Government of the Articles of Confederation, which required unanimous assent of all 13 states to change any provisions of the Articles. Nevertheless, the Constitution mandated that the new government would go into effect when nine of the 13 states acted affirmatively."
U.S. Senate: Reference Home > Constitution of the United States
Spin altering the truth without altering the facts.
The following can be found in Article VII of every copy of the United States Constitution.
"Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the twelfth...."
Was I correct?
You are right about the date that they signed it, and what was then common usage for designating the year. A contract to buy a slave would have had the same language. That's hardly the same as saying We are a Christian Nation, and the Constitution is perfectly valid without any mention of the Signers. They aren't required which is why the Senate doesn't include them, nor do most other copies of the Constitution.Click on the link from the US Senate and tell us?Spin…altering the truth without altering the facts.
The following can be found in Article VII of every copy of the United States Constitution.
"Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the twelfth...."
Was I correct?
"Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the twelfth...."
Was I correct?
Admit it, or everyone who goes to their copy of the Constitution will know what a lying dog you are.
You were right about the date that they signed it, and what was then common usage for designating the year. A contract to buy a slave would have had the same language. That's hardly the same as saying We are a Christian Nation, and the Constitution is perfectly valid without any mention of the Signers. They aren't required which is why the Senate doesn't include them, nor do most other copies of the Constitution.Click on the link from the US Senate and tell us?
"Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the twelfth...."
Was I correct?
Admit it, or everyone who goes to their copy of the Constitution will know what a lying dog you are.
As you see here: U.S. Constitution | Constitution | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute, the Signers are not part of Article Seven.
The signing portion is not actually part of the Constitution. That's why the Senate disregards it.You were right about the date that they signed it, and what was then common usage for designating the year. A contract to buy a slave would have had the same language. That's hardly the same as saying We are a Christian Nation, and the Constitution is perfectly valid without any mention of the Signers. They aren't required which is why the Senate doesn't include them, nor do most other copies of the Constitution."Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the twelfth...."
Was I correct?
Admit it, or everyone who goes to their copy of the Constitution will know what a lying dog you are.
As you see here: U.S. Constitution | Constitution | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute, the Signers are not part of Article Seven.
So the Constitution includes a reference to Jesus Christ.
That is all I said.
"That's hardly the same as saying We are a Christian Nation..."
I never said it was.
Nicely done, Political Chic.
Such verbiage does not prove conclusively that the United States is a Christian nation, of course...
But it DOES prove that the cultural and spiritual and philosophical and moral framework of both the Founding Fathers and our nations' Charter documents were part and parcel of latter-day Secularized Christendom and a continuance and extension of the principles of the domain of Christianity...
Close enough for government work...
Take an extra chocolate chip cookie from the cooling tray for that one...
Have you been listening to Barton again? That's nonsense. They knew the Bible well enough to know that Israel was for the Jews, who they weren't big on. They may have thought of America as A Shining City Upon A Hill but the New Israel is utter nonsense. Jews had zippo to do with founding this nation. We didn't even let them in in large numbers after WWII for the love of God.After all, the Founders saw this nation as the new Israel.
