MW advocates - what are the downsides of minimum wage?

[Asclepias]

Your OP was a logical fallacy from the start. Anyone dumb enough to suggest raising MW to $200 as a way to prove raising MW doesnt work is an idiot and not being honest.

Blow me. That wasn't suggestion of the OP. That's your strawman. Smoke it yourself.

Blow yourself. These are your words from your OP.

" I assume this is because they believe there is some downside to minimum wage, some reason to not raise it to $200/hr, but it seems they never want to talk about what that reason might be"

Basically you and the other idiot argument goes like this.

A man thats 6ft tall and cant swim will drown in 3ft of water because if we raise the water to 12ft he will die.

Nope. You're still strawmanning. Piss off.

Says the guy that lied and said he wasnt the one that mentioned raising the MW to $200/hour even though I just quoted it from the OP.

Fuck your trolling ass. You're trying to inject a bunch of shit from other arguments you're having on the topic. I'm making no value judgments at all about minimum wage in this thread. I'm simply trying to get to the point that we can have an honest discussion of minimum wage laws, the tradeoffs involved and how raising the minimum will impact society. Clearly that's a discussion you want to avoid and derail. Why?

Nope. I am using the words in your OP. I specifically said it was stupid to raise MW to $200/hr because thats not the level needed to get rid of poverty. You made the silly suggestion and now youre mad because I shot it down with common sense and reality. Your OP was a logical fallacy from the start specifically because it was based on retarded and easily defeated logic. If you truly wanted an honest discussion you wouldnt have tried to advance such a stupid suggestion.

 

[dblack]

Nope. I am using the words in your OP.

No you're not. You're adding your own presumptions. You're lying. You're trolling because the last thing you want to see is an honest discussion of the impact of minimum wage laws.

 

[dblack]

"Anyone dumb enough to suggest raising MW to $200 as a way to prove raising MW doesnt work is an idiot and not being honest."

I'm not trying to prove MW doesn't work. I'm trying to get supporters to honestly discuss its tradeoffs so we can, as a society, make reasonable policy decisions. Again, something you clearly want to avoid.

 

[Asclepias]

Nope. I am using the words in your OP.

No you're not. You're adding your own presumptions. You're lying. You're trolling because the last thing you want to see is an honest discussion of the impact of minimum wage laws.

Sorry bud. Its right here in your OP. Try harder to lie and fool some idots but it wont work on me. Here are your words.

MW advocates - what are the downsides of minimum wage?

" I assume this is because they believe there is some downside to minimum wage, some reason to not raise it to $200/hr, but it seems they never want to talk about what that reason might be"


I talked about the reason it shouldnt be raised to $200 and now youre enraged I shot your stupid suggestion down.

 

[dblack]

"Anyone dumb enough to suggest raising MW to $200 as a way to prove raising MW doesnt work is an idiot and not being honest."

I'm not trying to prove MW doesn't work. I'm trying to get supporters to honestly discuss its tradeoffs so we can, as a society, make reasonable policy decisions. Again, something you clearly want to avoid.

 

[Asclepias]

"Anyone dumb enough to suggest raising MW to $200 as a way to prove raising MW doesnt work is an idiot and not being honest."

I'm not trying to prove MW doesn't work. I'm trying to get supporters to honestly discuss its tradeoffs so we can, as a society, make reasonable policy decisions. Again, something you clearly want to avoid.

If you want people to honestly discuss something you dont put exaggerated extremes in the mix. Face it. Your $200/hr bomb blew up in your face and now youre mad that no one was stupid enough to fall for it.

 

[dblack]

"Anyone dumb enough to suggest raising MW to $200 as a way to prove raising MW doesnt work is an idiot and not being honest."

I'm not trying to prove MW doesn't work. I'm trying to get supporters to honestly discuss its tradeoffs so we can, as a society, make reasonable policy decisions. Again, something you clearly want to avoid.

If you want people to honestly discuss something you don't put exaggerated extremes in the mix.

Exactly. And it starts with exaggerated claims that minimum wage laws have no negative repercussions. When minimum wage advocates claim that raising the minimum wage doesn't cause unemployment or inflation, or have any negative impact at all on society, a sane person is going to ask "then why not raise it more?". And an honest person would answer.

 

[Asclepias]

"Anyone dumb enough to suggest raising MW to $200 as a way to prove raising MW doesnt work is an idiot and not being honest."

I'm not trying to prove MW doesn't work. I'm trying to get supporters to honestly discuss its tradeoffs so we can, as a society, make reasonable policy decisions. Again, something you clearly want to avoid.

If you want people to honestly discuss something you don't put exaggerated extremes in the mix.

Exactly. And it starts with exaggerated claims that minimum wage laws have no negative repercussions. When minimum wage advocates claim that raising the minimum wage doesn't cause unemployment or inflation, or have any negative impact at all on society, as sane person is going to ask "then why not raise it more?". And an honest person would answer.

I did answer. I said it was stupid because that level is not needed to give people a living wage. Now that youve come full circle and finally admitted that you did come up with the retarded figure of $200/hr and I explained why like you asked, what else do you need to know?

 

[dblack]

I did answer. I said it was stupid because that level is not needed to give people a living wage. Now youve come full circle and admitted that you did come up with the retarded figure of $200 and I explained why like you asked, what else do you need to know?

That's not an answer. Saying it isn't needed isn't a reason not to do it. Do you think raising the minimum wage to $200 an hour would cause any problems? Clearly you do, which contradicts your earlier statement that it has no downsides at all.

You're still just trolling. Still trying to squelch rational discussion of the tradeoffs involved with minimum wage.

 

[Asclepias]

I did answer. I said it was stupid because that level is not needed to give people a living wage. Now youve come full circle and admitted that you did come up with the retarded figure of $200 and I explained why like you asked, what else do you need to know?

That's not an answer. Saying it isn't needed isn't a reason not to do it. Do you think raising the minimum wage to $200 an hour would cause any problems? Clearly you do, which contradicts your earlier statement that it has no downsides at all.

You're still just trolling. Still trying to squelch rational discussion of the tradeoffs involved with minimum wage.

Who told you it wasnt an answer? There are many things that are not needed and thats the reason not to do it.

 

[dblack]

I did answer. I said it was stupid because that level is not needed to give people a living wage. Now youve come full circle and admitted that you did come up with the retarded figure of $200 and I explained why like you asked, what else do you need to know?

That's not an answer. Saying it isn't needed isn't a reason not to do it. Do you think raising the minimum wage to $200 an hour would cause any problems? Clearly you do, which contradicts your earlier statement that it has no downsides at all.

You're still just trolling. Still trying to squelch rational discussion of the tradeoffs involved with minimum wage.

Who told you it wasnt an answer?

Piss off, troll.

 

[Asclepias]

I did answer. I said it was stupid because that level is not needed to give people a living wage. Now youve come full circle and admitted that you did come up with the retarded figure of $200 and I explained why like you asked, what else do you need to know?

That's not an answer. Saying it isn't needed isn't a reason not to do it. Do you think raising the minimum wage to $200 an hour would cause any problems? Clearly you do, which contradicts your earlier statement that it has no downsides at all.

You're still just trolling. Still trying to squelch rational discussion of the tradeoffs involved with minimum wage.

Who told you it wasnt an answer?

Piss off, troll.

Dont be mad because you didnt like my answer. It directly addressed your idiotic suggestion and explained why. Like I said in the beginning if you really wanted honest discussion you wouldnt get enraged because I shot you down so easily.

 

[dblack]

I did answer. I said it was stupid because that level is not needed to give people a living wage. Now youve come full circle and admitted that you did come up with the retarded figure of $200 and I explained why like you asked, what else do you need to know?

That's not an answer. Saying it isn't needed isn't a reason not to do it. Do you think raising the minimum wage to $200 an hour would cause any problems? Clearly you do, which contradicts your earlier statement that it has no downsides at all.

You're still just trolling. Still trying to squelch rational discussion of the tradeoffs involved with minimum wage.

Who told you it wasnt an answer?

Piss off, troll.

Dont be mad because you didnt like my answer. It directly addressed your idiotic suggestion and explained why. Like I said in the beginning if you really wanted honest discussion you wouldnt get enraged because I shot you down so easily.

Piss off, troll.

 

[DandyDonovan]

This thread is addressed to supporters of minimum wage laws. Detractors claim that minimum wage causes unemployment and/or inflation. But most supporters will vigorously deny this. Yet they seem to set their sights pretty low when it comes to setting the level of minimum wage. I assume this is because they believe there is some downside to minimum wage, some reason to not raise it to $200/hr, but it seems they never want to talk about what that reason might be. Hopefully, someone will step up here, and clear the air.

Stupid argument is stupid.

The minimum wage is designed to re a sensible minimum wage. $200 an hour wouldn't be sensible, thus only insane idiots even bring it up. Hell $15 isn't sensible, but neither is $7.25.

 

[Asclepias]

I did answer. I said it was stupid because that level is not needed to give people a living wage. Now youve come full circle and admitted that you did come up with the retarded figure of $200 and I explained why like you asked, what else do you need to know?

That's not an answer. Saying it isn't needed isn't a reason not to do it. Do you think raising the minimum wage to $200 an hour would cause any problems? Clearly you do, which contradicts your earlier statement that it has no downsides at all.

You're still just trolling. Still trying to squelch rational discussion of the tradeoffs involved with minimum wage.

Who told you it wasnt an answer?

Piss off, troll.

Dont be mad because you didnt like my answer. It directly addressed your idiotic suggestion and explained why. Like I said in the beginning if you really wanted honest discussion you wouldnt get enraged because I shot you down so easily.

Piss off, troll.

Dont be mad you made an idiotic argument that fooled no one.

 

[Asclepias]

This thread is addressed to supporters of minimum wage laws. Detractors claim that minimum wage causes unemployment and/or inflation. But most supporters will vigorously deny this. Yet they seem to set their sights pretty low when it comes to setting the level of minimum wage. I assume this is because they believe there is some downside to minimum wage, some reason to not raise it to $200/hr, but it seems they never want to talk about what that reason might be. Hopefully, someone will step up here, and clear the air.

Stupid argument is stupid.

The minimum wage is designed to re a sensible minimum wage. $200 an hour wouldn't be sensible, thus only insane idiots even bring it up. Hell $15 isn't sensible, but neither is $7.25.

According to him thats not an answer. He cant explain why its not an answer but it makes him enraged that its the first thing that occurs to everyone that reads his OP.

 

[LaDexter]

Minimum wage was never supposed to be a "living wage." It was supposed to be for kids under 18 during summer.

As government got bigger and bigger and more expensive, it has increased costs on businesses, driven some out of the US, and forced wages DOWN.

Want lower end wages to RISE?

CUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING.


Nobody was bitching about minimum wage before W's 8 year Bible Thumping Socialist PORKFEST.... followed by QUEER-O.

 

[danielpalos]

"Anyone dumb enough to suggest raising MW to $200 as a way to prove raising MW doesnt work is an idiot and not being honest."

I'm not trying to prove MW doesn't work. I'm trying to get supporters to honestly discuss its tradeoffs so we can, as a society, make reasonable policy decisions. Again, something you clearly want to avoid.

all we really need is a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in our at-will employment States.

 

[Asclepias]

Minimum wage was never supposed to be a "living wage." It was supposed to be for kids under 18 during summer.

As government got bigger and bigger and more expensive, it has increased costs on businesses, driven some out of the US, and forced wages DOWN.

Want lower end wages to RISE?

CUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING.


Nobody was bitching about minimum wage before W's 8 year Bible Thumping Socialist PORKFEST.... followed by QUEER-O.

Thats also a dumb argument. Welfare wasnt meant to be for anyone other than whites but that too changed with time. The facts are that people with families are working shitty jobs for low wages. The MW should be something that gives people with a work ethic a reason to not be on welfare.

 

[LaDexter]

Thats also a dumb argument.

The only thing DUMB here is the person who cannot refute any of the post and hence resorts to INSULTS to cover for LIMITED INTELLECT....