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Didn't you want to see Karl Malone and Stockton win one against MJ? I did. But today it is kind of cool to say I watched the greatest of all time.
I'm rooting against Lebron but I still acknowledge he's the greatest player in the NBA.
LOL. I dont usually get involved emotionally but if there are 2 players I did not want to win a ring it was Stockton and Malone. While I generally appreciated Stocktons game, he was dirty. I couldn't stand Malone for the same reasons but since he was so big I didn't see the need for him to be dirty. That made it worse than the things Stockton did. Out of all the reasons, MJ beating Utah ranks at the top of my reasons why I think he is the GOAT.
When its said and done Lebron is always going to be second best to MJ. You cant script what MJ did. Its not just what he did, its how he did it. He was an underdog that over achieved and beat everyone else. You cant beat a story like MJ's especially if you heralded as a basketball deity even before you hit the league. Think about it. A guy that was cut from his HS team and didnt even go first in the draft vs a guy that was a sure fire #1 pick the day he graduated from HS.
Very true. MJ was mentally a much better athlete. He willed himself 6 championships. Lebron had to go team up with Bosh and Wade. Lebron is no doubt the best athlete in the NBA today and physically he may be a better athlete than MJ but MJ is the best because of his heart and mind.
Duncan may be one of the greatest power forwards of all time. It doesn't seem that way when you watch him play but look at his results. I hope he wins one more ring. I can't believe the Spurs are still beating the younger teams like OKC. Poor Durant. He needs one more stud on his team. Maybe if Harden didn't leave to go play with that loser
LOL. I dont usually get involved emotionally but if there are 2 players I did not want to win a ring it was Stockton and Malone. While I generally appreciated Stocktons game, he was dirty. I couldn't stand Malone for the same reasons but since he was so big I didn't see the need for him to be dirty. That made it worse than the things Stockton did. Out of all the reasons, MJ beating Utah ranks at the top of my reasons why I think he is the GOAT.
When its said and done Lebron is always going to be second best to MJ. You cant script what MJ did. Its not just what he did, its how he did it. He was an underdog that over achieved and beat everyone else. You cant beat a story like MJ's especially if you heralded as a basketball deity even before you hit the league. Think about it. A guy that was cut from his HS team and didnt even go first in the draft vs a guy that was a sure fire #1 pick the day he graduated from HS.
Very true. MJ was mentally a much better athlete. He willed himself 6 championships. Lebron had to go team up with Bosh and Wade. Lebron is no doubt the best athlete in the NBA today and physically he may be a better athlete than MJ but MJ is the best because of his heart and mind.
Duncan may be one of the greatest power forwards of all time. It doesn't seem that way when you watch him play but look at his results. I hope he wins one more ring. I can't believe the Spurs are still beating the younger teams like OKC. Poor Durant. He needs one more stud on his team. Maybe if Harden didn't leave to go play with that loser
I give MJ the mental edge but he also teamed up with Pippen, Horace Grant, Kukoc, and Rodman. He and Pippen were both HOFers so he did not do it by himself. Cleveland didn't get anyone for Lebron to play with. What loser did Harden leave to go play with? jeremy Lin?
I agree that Jordan is the GOAT, but Kobe > Lebron
LOL. I dont usually get involved emotionally but if there are 2 players I did not want to win a ring it was Stockton and Malone. While I generally appreciated Stocktons game, he was dirty. I couldn't stand Malone for the same reasons but since he was so big I didn't see the need for him to be dirty. That made it worse than the things Stockton did. Out of all the reasons, MJ beating Utah ranks at the top of my reasons why I think he is the GOAT.
When its said and done Lebron is always going to be second best to MJ. You cant script what MJ did. Its not just what he did, its how he did it. He was an underdog that over achieved and beat everyone else. You cant beat a story like MJ's especially if you heralded as a basketball deity even before you hit the league. Think about it. A guy that was cut from his HS team and didnt even go first in the draft vs a guy that was a sure fire #1 pick the day he graduated from HS.
Very true. MJ was mentally a much better athlete. He willed himself 6 championships. Lebron had to go team up with Bosh and Wade. Lebron is no doubt the best athlete in the NBA today and physically he may be a better athlete than MJ but MJ is the best because of his heart and mind.
Duncan may be one of the greatest power forwards of all time. It doesn't seem that way when you watch him play but look at his results. I hope he wins one more ring. I can't believe the Spurs are still beating the younger teams like OKC. Poor Durant. He needs one more stud on his team. Maybe if Harden didn't leave to go play with that loser
I give MJ the mental edge but he also teamed up with Pippen, Horace Grant, Kukoc, and Rodman. He and Pippen were both HOFers so he did not do it by himself. Cleveland didn't get anyone for Lebron to play with. What loser did Harden leave to go play with? jeremy Lin?
I agree that Jordan is the GOAT, but Kobe > Lebron
I agree that Jordan is the GOAT, but Kobe > Lebron
Wow! I disagree. Kobe was great, even the greatest of his era but I don't think he is better than Lebron. And I was going to say he needed Shaq but then he did it again twice with Gasol. I guess Kobe, in retrospect, was pretty damn good.
Kobe wasn't even the MVP of the finals in 2000, 2001 or 2002. Shaq was.
Very true. MJ was mentally a much better athlete. He willed himself 6 championships. Lebron had to go team up with Bosh and Wade. Lebron is no doubt the best athlete in the NBA today and physically he may be a better athlete than MJ but MJ is the best because of his heart and mind.
Duncan may be one of the greatest power forwards of all time. It doesn't seem that way when you watch him play but look at his results. I hope he wins one more ring. I can't believe the Spurs are still beating the younger teams like OKC. Poor Durant. He needs one more stud on his team. Maybe if Harden didn't leave to go play with that loser
I give MJ the mental edge but he also teamed up with Pippen, Horace Grant, Kukoc, and Rodman. He and Pippen were both HOFers so he did not do it by himself. Cleveland didn't get anyone for Lebron to play with. What loser did Harden leave to go play with? jeremy Lin?
MJ didn't have all those guys all 6 years. If the Bulls lost someone they just picked up another role player to fill that void.
Is Horace Grant or Kukoc in the HOF? If not then you can't say it isn't fair that he had them on his team. Did you expect him to not have decent players and still win? And I know he didn't have Rodman all 6 years.
Harden left to go to Houston, probably for the money. What loser does he play with now? Dwight Howard. That guy is poison to a team.
P.S. I forgot this but one of the years either 2009 or 2010 Kobe and Shaq beat Dwight and his Orlando team in the NBA finals. I didn't remember that Dwight went to the finals ever. I doubt he'll ever go again, the fucking loser. LOL. Ever since he through Van Gundy under the bus I have hated him. And we (the Pistons) now have him as our coach so I should be thanking Dwight.
I agree that Jordan is the GOAT, but Kobe > Lebron
Greater at what?
I agree that Jordan is the GOAT, but Kobe > Lebron
Greater at what?
Basketball.
Another reason why I think Kobe has been the better player is lebron defers to his teammates waaaaaaay to much at the end of ball games whereas Kobe and MJ used to almost always try to take game in their hands and take the last shot.
I agree that Jordan is the GOAT, but Kobe > Lebron
Wow! I disagree. Kobe was great, even the greatest of his era but I don't think he is better than Lebron. And I was going to say he needed Shaq but then he did it again twice with Gasol. I guess Kobe, in retrospect, was pretty damn good.
Kobe wasn't even the MVP of the finals in 2000, 2001 or 2002. Shaq was.
I look at it like this Shaq was the most dominant player at the time, while Kobe was the most skilled all around player. In terms of Kobe and Lebron, I would give the edge to Kobe because he has better and more all around skills than Lebron and was more of a prolific scorer, I mean the man scored 81 points in a game. One thing lebron, IMO, does better than Kobe is pass, but Kobe has always had the better post game, jump shot, more moves, better free throw shooter. IMO Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan we've seen.
How could anybody "hate" Lebron? He is a fantastic player, a good team player, and has done incredibly well with all the hype that has followed him around throughout his professional career - particularly considering that he jumped directly from HS to the NBA.
People who are fans of other teams may be unhappy with his success (relative to their own favorite team), but to "hate" him is a little bit perverse.
How could anybody "hate" Lebron? He is a fantastic player, a good team player, and has done incredibly well with all the hype that has followed him around throughout his professional career - particularly considering that he jumped directly from HS to the NBA.
People who are fans of other teams may be unhappy with his success (relative to their own favorite team), but to "hate" him is a little bit perverse.
How could anybody "hate" Lebron? He is a fantastic player, a good team player, and has done incredibly well with all the hype that has followed him around throughout his professional career - particularly considering that he jumped directly from HS to the NBA.
People who are fans of other teams may be unhappy with his success (relative to their own favorite team), but to "hate" him is a little bit perverse.
I agree that Jordan is the GOAT, but Kobe > Lebron
Wow! I disagree. Kobe was great, even the greatest of his era but I don't think he is better than Lebron. And I was going to say he needed Shaq but then he did it again twice with Gasol. I guess Kobe, in retrospect, was pretty damn good.
Kobe wasn't even the MVP of the finals in 2000, 2001 or 2002. Shaq was.
I look at it like this Shaq was the most dominant player at the time, while Kobe was the most skilled all around player. In terms of Kobe and Lebron, I would give the edge to Kobe because he has better and more all around skills than Lebron and was more of a prolific scorer, I mean the man scored 81 points in a game. One thing lebron, IMO, does better than Kobe is pass, but Kobe has always had the better post game, jump shot, more moves, better free throw shooter. IMO Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan we've seen.
Wow! I disagree. Kobe was great, even the greatest of his era but I don't think he is better than Lebron. And I was going to say he needed Shaq but then he did it again twice with Gasol. I guess Kobe, in retrospect, was pretty damn good.
Kobe wasn't even the MVP of the finals in 2000, 2001 or 2002. Shaq was.
I look at it like this Shaq was the most dominant player at the time, while Kobe was the most skilled all around player. In terms of Kobe and Lebron, I would give the edge to Kobe because he has better and more all around skills than Lebron and was more of a prolific scorer, I mean the man scored 81 points in a game. One thing lebron, IMO, does better than Kobe is pass, but Kobe has always had the better post game, jump shot, more moves, better free throw shooter. IMO Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan we've seen.
Being the closest to Jordan in terms of style of play doesn't make him better than Lebron. It just means he copied Jordans moves better than anyone else. The thing that stands out to me is Kobe had the most dominant center of of the era on his team for 3 championships and Kobe was not the #1 option. He also had the same coach for all 5 of his championships. Lebron has always been the #1 option regardless of where he was at when he won his rings and he has Kobe beat in league MVP's and tied in Finals MVP's.
I give MJ the mental edge but he also teamed up with Pippen, Horace Grant, Kukoc, and Rodman. He and Pippen were both HOFers so he did not do it by himself. Cleveland didn't get anyone for Lebron to play with. What loser did Harden leave to go play with? jeremy Lin?
MJ didn't have all those guys all 6 years. If the Bulls lost someone they just picked up another role player to fill that void.
Is Horace Grant or Kukoc in the HOF? If not then you can't say it isn't fair that he had them on his team. Did you expect him to not have decent players and still win? And I know he didn't have Rodman all 6 years.
Harden left to go to Houston, probably for the money. What loser does he play with now? Dwight Howard. That guy is poison to a team.
P.S. I forgot this but one of the years either 2009 or 2010 Kobe and Shaq beat Dwight and his Orlando team in the NBA finals. I didn't remember that Dwight went to the finals ever. I doubt he'll ever go again, the fucking loser. LOL. Ever since he through Van Gundy under the bus I have hated him. And we (the Pistons) now have him as our coach so I should be thanking Dwight.
Yeah MJ did have those guys all 6 years. it was always he and Pippen with another very good player. Lebron never had a side kick until he went to the Heat. Bosh is not going to be a HOFer. He never was going to be. Harden went to Houston before Howard did.
I look at it like this Shaq was the most dominant player at the time, while Kobe was the most skilled all around player. In terms of Kobe and Lebron, I would give the edge to Kobe because he has better and more all around skills than Lebron and was more of a prolific scorer, I mean the man scored 81 points in a game. One thing lebron, IMO, does better than Kobe is pass, but Kobe has always had the better post game, jump shot, more moves, better free throw shooter. IMO Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan we've seen.
Being the closest to Jordan in terms of style of play doesn't make him better than Lebron. It just means he copied Jordans moves better than anyone else. The thing that stands out to me is Kobe had the most dominant center of of the era on his team for 3 championships and Kobe was not the #1 option. He also had the same coach for all 5 of his championships. Lebron has always been the #1 option regardless of where he was at when he won his rings and he has Kobe beat in league MVP's and tied in Finals MVP's.
Yup. I wonder if these things bother Kobe. You know he wants one more ring.
