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You're delusional.Gee, if only the Democrats in charge of security for that day hadn't turned down Trump's offer of National Guard troops there never would have been a freaking riot! Duh?
Ashley Babbit was an unarmed protester shot and killed by police because she was not heeding their commands and represented a threat to them. Normally, the Left would torch a city, loot its businesses, and beat innocent bystanders and call for defunding the police over this. Instead, the Left lauded the police.
She was a veteran and knew better.The new angle confirms that she did in fact fuck around and subsequently found out.
Of course he was expecting something! Any rational person would have. It's why he offered the National Guard. A better question would be why was that offer turned down given what being heard about potentially massive protest?You're delusional.
If the orange traitor, wanted the National Guard at the capitol, they would have been there.
So, why would the retard request the NG anyway?
Never called out the NG for ANY of his pity rallies.
Was Trump EXPECTING "something"?
You have no doubt that he was shouting commands for them to back off? You obviously never listened to audio on the videos taken that day then because he doesn't say a word before he steps out of hiding and fires. The only thing you can hear are protesters yelling that someone has a gun and then the shot that kills Babbitt! That Police officer is the ONLY law enforcement person at the Capital that day to use deadly force and he used it against someone that was unarmed and wasn't attacking him! Giving that coward a medal disgusts me!I try and be fair and judge every situation based upon its own individual circumstances filtered through what is reasonable.
Few people have written more about police reform or misconduct here than I have. To that end let me say this. If it was a home the shooting would be absolutely justified. The crowd was trying to break down the doors to gain entrance to where they had no business being. If someone was breaking down your door, if they were armed or not, and you shot them I’d have no real issue with it.
If it was a crowd, I’d especially have no issue if you were alone and they knew you were armed and kept coming anyway.
This wasn’t a home. It was our Nations Capital. The Cop was pulling a Horacio on the Bridge. He was alone holding the last line before the people he was defending. The crowd had to see the gun pointing at them. I have no doubt that he was shouting commands for them to stop, back off, leave the area.
But let’s play this out. This crowd, breaking windows, breaking down the doors, do you expect me to believe that they meant the cop no harm?
Babbit wasn’t shot holding her hands up. She wasn’t shot fleeing the area. She wasn’t shot in a situation where it was multiple cops and one suspect. Or even one cop and one suspect. In those cases, when the police can control the Suspect using other means. Sure. I’ll question it. But one versus dozens? Nope.
The closest you can come is the St. Louis Lawyers. There I argued it was dumb legally. They were brandishing their firearms which is a crime. I argued it was dumb Tactically. They went out to where they had no cover and no additional ammunition. It was far smarter to stay in the house where you have cover and additional support.
They may be lawyers. But they were incredibly dumb. If you have to set up for an Alamo, don’t go out and think showing the bang stick is going to scare the crowd.
I think this is bullshit from the Right. If you were at your job and a crowd was trying to break in. You would empty your weapon and reload before firing some more. So don’t pretend that if you were that cop you would just stand there and let them reach you.
The new angle confirms that she did in fact fuck around and subsequently found out.
WTF?Of course he was expecting something! Any rational person would have.
No, a better question is how does ANYONE turn down a request by a president?It's why he offered the National Guard. A better question would be why was that offer turned down
given what being heard about potentially massive protest?
Yep. The OP did nothing but prove the shot was justified.
I try and be fair and judge every situation based upon its own individual circumstances filtered through what is reasonable.
Few people have written more about police reform or misconduct here than I have. To that end let me say this. If it was a home the shooting would be absolutely justified. The crowd was trying to break down the doors to gain entrance to where they had no business being. If someone was breaking down your door, if they were armed or not, and you shot them I’d have no real issue with it.
If it was a crowd, I’d especially have no issue if you were alone and they knew you were armed and kept coming anyway.
This wasn’t a home. It was our Nations Capital. The Cop was pulling a Horacio on the Bridge. He was alone holding the last line before the people he was defending. The crowd had to see the gun pointing at them. I have no doubt that he was shouting commands for them to stop, back off, leave the area.
But let’s play this out. This crowd, breaking windows, breaking down the doors, do you expect me to believe that they meant the cop no harm?
Babbit wasn’t shot holding her hands up. She wasn’t shot fleeing the area. She wasn’t shot in a situation where it was multiple cops and one suspect. Or even one cop and one suspect. In those cases, when the police can control the Suspect using other means. Sure. I’ll question it. But one versus dozens? Nope.
The closest you can come is the St. Louis Lawyers. There I argued it was dumb legally. They were brandishing their firearms which is a crime. I argued it was dumb Tactically. They went out to where they had no cover and no additional ammunition. It was far smarter to stay in the house where you have cover and additional support.
They may be lawyers. But they were incredibly dumb. If you have to set up for an Alamo, don’t go out and think showing the bang stick is going to scare the crowd.
I think this is bullshit from the Right. If you were at your job and a crowd was trying to break in. You would empty your weapon and reload before firing some more. So don’t pretend that if you were that cop you would just stand there and let them reach you.
It wasn't a request...it was an offer and that offer was turned down. Why?WTF?
Why was Trump expecting anything different than the rest of the pity rallies he has held?
No, a better question is how does ANYONE turn down a request by a president?
People don't, Trump and his cult are LYING, the request was NEVER made.
Are you kidding?
What exactly did she DO?
The cop was on the other side of the friggin' door for chrissake. She presented no imminent threat whatsoever to anyone, and that is an objective fact.
You're not being honest, you're simply defending your original position, which has ossified over the last two years based on mindless propaganda.
If only Ashley had black skin - or progressive politics - the news would tell you to see it a different way entirely - and of course, you would.
Because Capitol police didn’t think Trump’s supporters were so incredibly violent.It wasn't a request...it was an offer and that offer was turned down. Why?
No, it wasn't an "offer".It wasn't a request...it was an offer and that offer was turned down. Why?
Gee, if only the Democrats in charge of security for that day hadn't turned down Trump's offer of National Guard troops there never would have been a freaking riot! Duh?
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And I thought Democrats always say that protesters...even violent ones...shouldn't be shot?I thought republicans always say they want rioters and vandals to be shot.
I'm not a democrat.And I thought Democrats always say that protesters...even violent ones...shouldn't be shot?
Ashli Babbitt hadn't assaulted Michael Byrd. She wasn't engaged in arson. Her "crime" was that she was attempting to stop the certification of an election that she viewed as fraudulent. The truth is that no politician was harmed in any way by the people who entered the Capital building and very little damage was done inside of the Capital by the protesters. Yet those protesters who simply entered the building are being put in prisons with long sentences because they were there. Not because they did something violent to a member of Congress or the Police but simply because they entered the building. Contrast that with how liberal protesters had been treated across the nation even when they assaulted Police and burned government buildings. How many of THEM received long jail sentences?
Are you kidding?
What exactly did she DO?
The cop was on the other side of the friggin' door for chrissake. She presented no imminent threat whatsoever to anyone, and that is an objective fact.
You're not being honest, you're simply defending your original position, which has ossified over the last two years based on mindless propaganda.
If only Ashley had black skin - or progressive politics - the news would tell you to see it a different way entirely - and of course, you would.
