Never Collusion, Now Its Off to Paying a Hooker

If there is no collusion then what is the conspiracy?

Conspiring with a foreign government to win an election. Conspiring with an attorney to violate campaign finance laws.

Even if Trump got Putin to post on Facebook that doesn't rise to "conspiring with a foreign government to win an election" (which I don't think is even a crime)

Getting your lawyer to pay off a hooker isn't a crime or "conspiring with an attorney to violate campaign finance laws"

As Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz has pointed out even if Trump "colluded" with Russia and paid off a hooker neither are crimes.

The only person who needs to go to be prosecuted is Mueller and his team.

Paying someone to hack your opponent is a crime. Not reporting it as a campaign expense is a crime.

If Russia hacked Hillary's and the DNC server then everyone hacked the servers. So good luck trying to prove who actually released the emails.
Makes no sense but whatever.

It makes perfect sense. Russia isn't the only ones who hack or get involved in US politics. Russia most likely hacked the servers. What is also most likely is that North Korea, China, along with every other country capable, and the people on 4Chan all hacked the servers as well.

If Trump didn't report the the donations or the payments it came so late in the campaign that it wouldn't have been reported til after the election and it is the equivalent to jaywalking.
If? So now even if it is a felony…you are trying to minimize it. As predicted…the next step in Trump supporter-syndrome;

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As Alan Dershowitz said "This is going to be a very difficult case for the prosecution to make, precisely because the laws on election are so convoluted".

Man, you guys sure do love OJ’s lawyer…I guess felons of the feather flock together.

It is difficult to prove. Could be why Captain Mueller’s investigation in the private shin-splints is taking so long.

You do wan the truth to come out; right?[/QUOTE]

I don't care if he did or not. The crimes aren't severe enough to warrant a special counsel. In the case of "collusion" that isn't even a crime.
 
The Left are sooooo pissed Hillary got her ass kicked and she is forever a history trivia question.


For nearly 20 months, the allegations made in the infamous Steele dossier have hung like a cloud over the Trump administration and several of his former advisers.

The salacious 35-page document has become Exhibit A in President Donald Trump critics’ conspiracy theory that the campaign colluded with the Russian government to influence the 2016 election. Numerous news outlets, pundits and lawmakers have also pushed the theory.

But the dossier arguably suffered its heaviest blow on Wednesday after Clinton-connected lawyer Lanny Davis emphatically denied one of the document’s most intriguing allegations.

Davis said the dossier’s claims that his client, former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, traveled to Prague in August 2016 as part of a conspiracy with the Kremlin are “100 percent” false.

Steele Dossier Pushers Lay Low After Lanny Davis Bombshell

The Left are sooooo pissed Hillary got her ass kicked and she is forever a history trivia question.

The "left" neither appointed Mueller nor runs the DOJ, dope.
 
Here is Mueller's brief. It goes far beyond 'collusion', and it's laughable that you Trumpanzees keep whining about it.

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is
authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

See point (ii)? See point (iii)? See that last sentence?
Collusion is a small part of the investigation, and, given Trump's lifetime of money-laundering, lying and cheating, and Mueller has plenty of help (thanks, Michael Cohen!) in finding the dirt.

Funny how it’s just about Russia and Trump, but not the DNC and Hillary.

It’s not about making sure Russia didn’t affect the election, it’s about getting Trump out of office period.

I am cool with it if we do the same thing with all future Presidents.
The investigation has barely started. Most of these things go on for years. It's unusually to get so many indictments this early but Trump seems to surround himself with a lot crooks.
So what is the crime you can name and evidence you can site to justify Herr Mueller's appointment and subsequent investigation?

No one seems to know what crime Mueller is investigating because not even he has been able to name one or cite evidence of a crime.

Care to explain that zipperhead?

Is it that his daughter married a Jew?

Is it that he is a defender and supporter of Israel?

Is it that he believes in America, and denounces globalism?

Is it because you are really NEO Nazis?

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Here is Mueller's brief. It goes far beyond 'collusion', and it's laughable that you Trumpanzees keep whining about it.

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is
authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

See point (ii)? See point (iii)? See that last sentence?
Collusion is a small part of the investigation, and, given Trump's lifetime of money-laundering, lying and cheating, and Mueller has plenty of help (thanks, Michael Cohen!) in finding the dirt.
What year was that, Dufus? :21:

2017, dope.
 
The Left are sooooo pissed Hillary got her ass kicked and she is forever a history trivia question.


For nearly 20 months, the allegations made in the infamous Steele dossier have hung like a cloud over the Trump administration and several of his former advisers.

The salacious 35-page document has become Exhibit A in President Donald Trump critics’ conspiracy theory that the campaign colluded with the Russian government to influence the 2016 election. Numerous news outlets, pundits and lawmakers have also pushed the theory.

But the dossier arguably suffered its heaviest blow on Wednesday after Clinton-connected lawyer Lanny Davis emphatically denied one of the document’s most intriguing allegations.

Davis said the dossier’s claims that his client, former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, traveled to Prague in August 2016 as part of a conspiracy with the Kremlin are “100 percent” false.

Steele Dossier Pushers Lay Low After Lanny Davis Bombshell

The Left are sooooo pissed Hillary got her ass kicked and she is forever a history trivia question.

The "left" neither appointed Mueller nor runs the DOJ, dope.

Things worse than "the left" run appointed Mueller and the DOJ: Established Swam creatures.
 
Here is Mueller's brief. It goes far beyond 'collusion', and it's laughable that you Trumpanzees keep whining about it.

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is
authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

See point (ii)? See point (iii)? See that last sentence?
Collusion is a small part of the investigation, and, given Trump's lifetime of money-laundering, lying and cheating, and Mueller has plenty of help (thanks, Michael Cohen!) in finding the dirt.


The first matter that should have arose is why the FBI started the Russia investigation into the TRUMP campaign.

The FBI started a counterintelligence investigation into the Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. Part of that investigation was to determine if any US persons aided Russia in their efforts.
 
Here is Mueller's brief. It goes far beyond 'collusion', and it's laughable that you Trumpanzees keep whining about it.

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is
authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

See point (ii)? See point (iii)? See that last sentence?
Collusion is a small part of the investigation, and, given Trump's lifetime of money-laundering, lying and cheating, and Mueller has plenty of help (thanks, Michael Cohen!) in finding the dirt.

So Mueller isn't investigating a crime he is looking for a crime.

A special counsel can only investigate a crime not just dig up dirt.
The left tards have no crime to even seat Mueller.. They violated the law in seating him.. This has been a prosecutor in search of a crime from day one...

The Russian hacking and intelligence operation was the crime, dope.

Mueller was appointed as a direct result of Comey's firing. Trump did that himself.
 
It's my opinion that "The Insurance Policy" was designed to prevent Donald Trump from cleaning up corruption in Washington by tying his hands and bogging his administration down with this nonsense for as long as they can keep it going.
 
Here is Mueller's brief. It goes far beyond 'collusion', and it's laughable that you Trumpanzees keep whining about it.

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is
authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

See point (ii)? See point (iii)? See that last sentence?
Collusion is a small part of the investigation, and, given Trump's lifetime of money-laundering, lying and cheating, and Mueller has plenty of help (thanks, Michael Cohen!) in finding the dirt.


The first matter that should have arose is why the FBI started the Russia investigation into the TRUMP campaign.

The FBI started a counterintelligence investigation into the Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. Part of that investigation was to determine if any US persons aided Russia in their efforts.

Why isn't Mueller investigating the Hillary campaign?

Bill & Hillary were involved in in deals with Russia that were suspicious.
 
Here is Mueller's brief. It goes far beyond 'collusion', and it's laughable that you Trumpanzees keep whining about it.

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is
authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

See point (ii)? See point (iii)? See that last sentence?
Collusion is a small part of the investigation, and, given Trump's lifetime of money-laundering, lying and cheating, and Mueller has plenty of help (thanks, Michael Cohen!) in finding the dirt.

So Mueller isn't investigating a crime he is looking for a crime.

A special counsel can only investigate a crime not just dig up dirt.
The left tards have no crime to even seat Mueller.. They violated the law in seating him.. This has been a prosecutor in search of a crime from day one...

The Russian hacking and intelligence operation was the crime, dope.

Mueller was appointed as a direct result of Comey's firing. Trump did that himself.

Why are they investigating just Russia? Why not every other country that hack?

Trump has every right to fire Comney since Trump is his boss.
 
The multiple scandals of the Trump crime syndicate are being investigated….

The investigations continue.

PS: It’s no longer collusion; its now conspiracy.

If there is no collusion then what is the conspiracy?

Conspiring with a foreign government to win an election. Conspiring with an attorney to violate campaign finance laws.

Even if Trump got Putin to post on Facebook that doesn't rise to "conspiring with a foreign government to win an election" (which I don't think is even a crime)

Getting your lawyer to pay off a hooker isn't a crime or "conspiring with an attorney to violate campaign finance laws"

As Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz has pointed out even if Trump "colluded" with Russia and paid off a hooker neither are crimes.

The only person who needs to go to be prosecuted is Mueller and his team.

Paying someone to hack your opponent is a crime. Not reporting it as a campaign expense is a crime.
What is getting the government to insert a party operative into your opponent's campaign in order for them to spy on you? What is using government resources to pay a foreign operative to make up lies about your party's opposition? What is using the power of the justice department to attempt to overturn the public's will in a certified election? Are those crimes?
What is getting the government to insert a party operative into your opponent's campaign in order for them to spy on you?

A dopey conspiracy narrative.

Don't you ever wonder why none of your narratives ever pan out?
 
The Left are sooooo pissed Hillary got her ass kicked and she is forever a history trivia question.


For nearly 20 months, the allegations made in the infamous Steele dossier have hung like a cloud over the Trump administration and several of his former advisers.

The salacious 35-page document has become Exhibit A in President Donald Trump critics’ conspiracy theory that the campaign colluded with the Russian government to influence the 2016 election. Numerous news outlets, pundits and lawmakers have also pushed the theory.

But the dossier arguably suffered its heaviest blow on Wednesday after Clinton-connected lawyer Lanny Davis emphatically denied one of the document’s most intriguing allegations.

Davis said the dossier’s claims that his client, former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, traveled to Prague in August 2016 as part of a conspiracy with the Kremlin are “100 percent” false.

Steele Dossier Pushers Lay Low After Lanny Davis Bombshell

The Left are sooooo pissed Hillary got her ass kicked and she is forever a history trivia question.

The "left" neither appointed Mueller nor runs the DOJ, dope.

Things worse than "the left" run appointed Mueller and the DOJ: Established Swam creatures.
Things worse than "the left" run appointed Mueller and the DOJ: Established Swam creatures.

WTF? LOL. :booze:
 
The OP is correct....it was NEVER about collusion......
It's always been and ALWAYS WILL BE about eliminating any and all opposition by any means necessary.

By the time enough people on the Right (and Left) realize the urgency and critical nature of what's going on, it'll be too late.

Judging by the proliferation of prosecution of those on the Right (with little or no evidence and intense witch hunts) and an astounding LACK of ANY investigation into obvious wrong doing on the Left, I would say it's already too late and will get exponentially worse faster than anyone would believe.
We are one or maybe two elections away from a brazen partisan over-ruling of the US Constitution on Gun Rights, Free Speech and Protections of Privacy.
We'll see all 3 fall incredibly and unbelievably in our lifetimes I'm certain. (In fact, we already have....Warrantless searches, Civil forfeiture, Patriot Act etc etc etc)

There is probably no saving the Union at this point without MASSIVE intervention by the People, and that's not going to happen. You choice is to join the Left, or start looking for a new place to live.....realizing that once the US Constitution falls, there really is nowhere to run.

Edmund Burke's words were prophetic.
 
Here is Mueller's brief. It goes far beyond 'collusion', and it's laughable that you Trumpanzees keep whining about it.

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is
authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

See point (ii)? See point (iii)? See that last sentence?
Collusion is a small part of the investigation, and, given Trump's lifetime of money-laundering, lying and cheating, and Mueller has plenty of help (thanks, Michael Cohen!) in finding the dirt.


The first matter that should have arose is why the FBI started the Russia investigation into the TRUMP campaign.

The FBI started a counterintelligence investigation into the Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. Part of that investigation was to determine if any US persons aided Russia in their efforts.

Why isn't Mueller investigating the Hillary campaign?

Bill & Hillary were involved in in deals with Russia that were suspicious.

Who says they aren't.

Logic should tell you that it's not likely that Clinton conspired with the Russians to elect Trump.
 
So what is the crime you can name and evidence you can site to justify Herr Mueller's appointment and subsequent investigation?
No one seems to know what crime Mueller is investigating because not even he has been able to name one or cite evidence of a crime.
Care to explain that zipperhead?
Is it that his daughter married a Jew?
Is it that he is a defender and supporter of Israel?
Is it that he believes in America, and denounces globalism?
Is it because you are really NEO Nazis?

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unfortunately, we can get as angry as we like, but the reality is that they are slowly gaining ground as we on the Right do nothing but complain and whine about it.
 
The OP is correct....it was NEVER about collusion......
It's always been and ALWAYS WILL BE about eliminating any and all opposition by any means necessary.

By the time enough people on the Right (and Left) realize the urgency and critical nature of what's going on, it'll be too late.

Judging by the proliferation of prosecution of those on the Right (with little or no evidence and intense witch hunts) and an astounding LACK of ANY investigation into obvious wrong doing on the Left, I would say it's already too late and will get exponentially worse faster than anyone would believe.
We are one or maybe two elections away from a brazen partisan over-ruling of the US Constitution on Gun Rights, Free Speech and Protections of Privacy.
We'll see all 3 fall incredibly and unbelievably in our lifetimes I'm certain. (In fact, we already have....Warrantless searches, Civil forfeiture, Patriot Act etc etc etc)

There is probably no saving the Union at this point without MASSIVE intervention by the People, and that's not going to happen. You choice is to join the Left, or start looking for a new place to live.....realizing that once the US Constitution falls, there really is nowhere to run.

Edmund Burke's words were prophetic.

Trump fired Comey.
Mueller wouldn't be a thing if he hadn't done so.
 
For nearly 20 months, the allegations made in the infamous Steele dossier have hung like a cloud over the Trump administration and several of his former advisers.

The salacious 35-page document has become Exhibit A in President Donald Trump critics’ conspiracy theory that the campaign colluded with the Russian government to influence the 2016 election. Numerous news outlets, pundits and lawmakers have also pushed the theory.
But the dossier arguably suffered its heaviest blow on Wednesday after Clinton-connected lawyer Lanny Davis emphatically denied one of the document’s most intriguing allegations.
Davis said the dossier’s claims that his client, former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, traveled to Prague in August 2016 as part of a conspiracy with the Kremlin are “100 percent” false.
Steele Dossier Pushers Lay Low After Lanny Davis Bombshell

My best guess concerning the Mueller investigation:
Some conclusions will be classified for national security reasons (... more like national embarrassment). After review by the House and Senate, Donald Trump will be offered immunity from federal prosecution if he resigns within a week.

That still leaves him personally vulnerable to prosecution in the eastern court of New York (Cohen trial) once he becomes a private citizen.

Steele dossier? Validated in full.
 
Here is Mueller's brief. It goes far beyond 'collusion', and it's laughable that you Trumpanzees keep whining about it.

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confirmed by then-FBI
Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is
authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

See point (ii)? See point (iii)? See that last sentence?
Collusion is a small part of the investigation, and, given Trump's lifetime of money-laundering, lying and cheating, and Mueller has plenty of help (thanks, Michael Cohen!) in finding the dirt.


The first matter that should have arose is why the FBI started the Russia investigation into the TRUMP campaign.

The FBI started a counterintelligence investigation into the Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. Part of that investigation was to determine if any US persons aided Russia in their efforts.

Why isn't Mueller investigating the Hillary campaign?

Bill & Hillary were involved in in deals with Russia that were suspicious.

Who says they aren't.

Logic should tell you that it's not likely that Clinton conspired with the Russians to elect Trump.

Logic should also tell you Trump didn't need help to win against a woman who lost the primary.
 

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