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New Audio Evidence of Trump & Giuliani Corruption and Official Misconduct
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So what? The US hires foreigners all the time. Are you stupid?
sure rhe govt does...campaigns are limited in doing thatChris Steele is a Brit..hence a foreign national...he was on the pay roll for his spyingThat put a foreigner on its payroll while in the employ of Hillary Clinton.Correct and Fusion GPS is an American firm.Fusion GPS was on her payroll.Nope, he was on Fusion GPS payroll. Sweet, huh?No one said Hillary had anything to do with Rudy. She had to do with hiring Christopher Steel. The guy was on her payroll. Hillary gained possession when Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steel.You're lying again. You really should stop because you only hurt your own position. Of course Giuliani asked Ukraine to investigate Biden...Hillary has everything to do with it. She paid for it. How is that not having something to do with it?LOLrudy conducted one, and ukraine conducted one
You just can't stop lying, huh? Again, Rudy asked Ukraine to conduct an investigation.
You're lying about that too. Again, Hillary, who has nothing to do with this btw, hired an American firm.and the clinton campaign hired a foreigner to conduct one
Looks like you're lying about this too. Post the date she got it or you're lying.when steele delivered his report
That you can't stop lying reveals just how fragile your position is.
"And all we need… all we need from the President is to say: I'm gonna put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's gonna investigate and dig up the evidence, that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election."
And Hillary has nothing to do with Rudy. You're obviously deflecting to mitigate damage to Rudy.
And dates showing Hillary gained possession of the dossier, as it appears you lied about that too.
Who are you trying to fool?
No one is fooled.
Liar.
So what? The US hires foreigners all the time. Are you stupid?
with that said...why did you call the poster a liar then?
bripat9643
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No you don't, NAZI. Both she and Fusion GPS knew the law. They also knew that Christopher Steel was a foreigner.LOLOLThey broke our election laws, moron.Yeah, so?That put a foreigner on its payroll while in the employ of Hillary Clinton.Correct and Fusion GPS is an American firm.Fusion GPS was on her payroll.Nope, he was on Fusion GPS payroll. Sweet, huh?No one said Hillary had anything to do with Rudy. She had to do with hiring Christopher Steel. The guy was on her payroll. Hillary gained possession when Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steel.You're lying again. You really should stop because you only hurt your own position. Of course Giuliani asked Ukraine to investigate Biden...Hillary has everything to do with it. She paid for it. How is that not having something to do with it?LOLrudy conducted one, and ukraine conducted one
You just can't stop lying, huh? Again, Rudy asked Ukraine to conduct an investigation.
You're lying about that too. Again, Hillary, who has nothing to do with this btw, hired an American firm.and the clinton campaign hired a foreigner to conduct one
Looks like you're lying about this too. Post the date she got it or you're lying.when steele delivered his report
That you can't stop lying reveals just how fragile your position is.
"And all we need… all we need from the President is to say: I'm gonna put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's gonna investigate and dig up the evidence, that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election."
And Hillary has nothing to do with Rudy. You're obviously deflecting to mitigate damage to Rudy.
And dates showing Hillary gained possession of the dossier, as it appears you lied about that too.
Who are you trying to fool?
No one is fooled.
You failed to prove that, fucking moron. Again, you have to show she was involved with hiring Steele. Just saying, she had to have been only proves you're a fucking moron.
Case closed.
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Faun
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Yes, she did. Nothing illegal about hiring an American firm.Sure it can come from one...."Opponent research" doesn't mean from a foreign national. She hired Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research for her.She admitted so under the guise of “opponent research”LOLOLThey broke our election laws, moron.Yeah, so?That put a foreigner on its payroll while in the employ of Hillary Clinton.Correct and Fusion GPS is an American firm.Fusion GPS was on her payroll.Nope, he was on Fusion GPS payroll. Sweet, huh?No one said Hillary had anything to do with Rudy. She had to do with hiring Christopher Steel. The guy was on her payroll. Hillary gained possession when Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steel.You're lying again. You really should stop because you only hurt your own position. Of course Giuliani asked Ukraine to investigate Biden...Hillary has everything to do with it. She paid for it. How is that not having something to do with it?LOLrudy conducted one, and ukraine conducted one
You just can't stop lying, huh? Again, Rudy asked Ukraine to conduct an investigation.
You're lying about that too. Again, Hillary, who has nothing to do with this btw, hired an American firm.and the clinton campaign hired a foreigner to conduct one
Looks like you're lying about this too. Post the date she got it or you're lying.when steele delivered his report
That you can't stop lying reveals just how fragile your position is.
"And all we need… all we need from the President is to say: I'm gonna put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's gonna investigate and dig up the evidence, that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election."
And Hillary has nothing to do with Rudy. You're obviously deflecting to mitigate damage to Rudy.
And dates showing Hillary gained possession of the dossier, as it appears you lied about that too.
Who are you trying to fool?
No one is fooled.
You failed to prove that, fucking moron. Again, you have to show she was involved with hiring Steele. Just saying, she had to have been only proves you're a fucking moron.
Clinton got it from one....she hired a firm to gather it.
Faun
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Nope, not the same.but all your evidence of so called crimes is what the dnc and clinton did as well...well minus the fact Rudy is a US citizen and who they hired was a foreign spyIt doesn’t make any difference how compelling, documented, and objective the evidence of rightwing crimes and incompetence – dishonest conservatives will still ignore, deflect, and lie.That put a foreigner on its payroll while in the employ of Hillary Clinton.Correct and Fusion GPS is an American firm.Fusion GPS was on her payroll.Nope, he was on Fusion GPS payroll. Sweet, huh?No one said Hillary had anything to do with Rudy. She had to do with hiring Christopher Steel. The guy was on her payroll. Hillary gained possession when Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steel.You're lying again. You really should stop because you only hurt your own position. Of course Giuliani asked Ukraine to investigate Biden...Hillary has everything to do with it. She paid for it. How is that not having something to do with it?LOLrudy conducted one, and ukraine conducted one
You just can't stop lying, huh? Again, Rudy asked Ukraine to conduct an investigation.
You're lying about that too. Again, Hillary, who has nothing to do with this btw, hired an American firm.and the clinton campaign hired a foreigner to conduct one
Looks like you're lying about this too. Post the date she got it or you're lying.when steele delivered his report
That you can't stop lying reveals just how fragile your position is.
"And all we need… all we need from the President is to say: I'm gonna put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's gonna investigate and dig up the evidence, that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election."
And Hillary has nothing to do with Rudy. You're obviously deflecting to mitigate damage to Rudy.
And dates showing Hillary gained possession of the dossier, as it appears you lied about that too.
Who are you trying to fool?
No one is fooled.
Hillary solicited campaign aid from an American firm. Rudy, an American, solicited campaign aid from a foreign national.
so the american firm clinton hired is “guilty” of what rudy’s firm did?Nope, not the same.but all your evidence of so called crimes is what the dnc and clinton did as well...well minus the fact Rudy is a US citizen and who they hired was a foreign spyIt doesn’t make any difference how compelling, documented, and objective the evidence of rightwing crimes and incompetence – dishonest conservatives will still ignore, deflect, and lie.That put a foreigner on its payroll while in the employ of Hillary Clinton.Correct and Fusion GPS is an American firm.Fusion GPS was on her payroll.Nope, he was on Fusion GPS payroll. Sweet, huh?No one said Hillary had anything to do with Rudy. She had to do with hiring Christopher Steel. The guy was on her payroll. Hillary gained possession when Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steel.You're lying again. You really should stop because you only hurt your own position. Of course Giuliani asked Ukraine to investigate Biden...Hillary has everything to do with it. She paid for it. How is that not having something to do with it?LOLrudy conducted one, and ukraine conducted one
You just can't stop lying, huh? Again, Rudy asked Ukraine to conduct an investigation.
You're lying about that too. Again, Hillary, who has nothing to do with this btw, hired an American firm.and the clinton campaign hired a foreigner to conduct one
Looks like you're lying about this too. Post the date she got it or you're lying.when steele delivered his report
That you can't stop lying reveals just how fragile your position is.
"And all we need… all we need from the President is to say: I'm gonna put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's gonna investigate and dig up the evidence, that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election."
And Hillary has nothing to do with Rudy. You're obviously deflecting to mitigate damage to Rudy.
And dates showing Hillary gained possession of the dossier, as it appears you lied about that too.
Who are you trying to fool?
No one is fooled.
Hillary solicited campaign aid from an American firm. Rudy, an American, solicited campaign aid from a foreign national.
and trump is as “guilty” as clinton for hiring rudy and she is for hiring the american. firm
Mustang
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Rudy conducted an investigation? That's a laugh!rudy conducted one, and ukraine conducted oneNope, you're lying. He asked a foreign national to launch an investigation into Biden.sure he wasHe wasn't simply asking for information. Why do you feel the need to lie like that? He asked the president of another country to find dirt on one of Trump's political rivals. And he asked for it to be public, so that it would politically damage Biden.he’s certainly alllowe to ask for informasrik. the same the clinton campaign did with their agent Steele.LOLAs a benefit to Trump's campaign, it qualified as a contribution or other thing of value.oh it wasn’t a donation...she didn’t violate that law. She paid the foreign nationalI see nothing in the law that makes her responsible for the who Fusion GPS hired unless she was involved with who they hired.what law are you referring to?Of course it does, unless you can show she was involved in the hiring of Christopher Steele. Just because you don't understand the law doesn't mean Hillary broke it.GPS Fusion, who then hired a foreigner. The fact that the process is one step remove doesn't get her off the hook. If it did, then candidates could pour unlimited amounts into foreign firms with the simple expedient of having their law firm spend the money.No, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.www.cnn.com
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
the principal-agent relationship and the law makes her responsible for her agents actions
And the law of which I speak is...
§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals(a) ProhibitionIt shall be unlawful for-(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
Rudy was being paid...moreover is an american...he’s allowed to investigate and collect Op Reseach!
Uh, no, not even an American like Rudy is permitted by law to solicit campaign aid from a foreign national. I showed you the law... I don't see any exemptions in there for Rudy.
just like steele did...and made it public
And why am I still waiting for you to show when Hillary took possession of the dossier?
and the clinton campaign hired a foreigner to conduct one
when steele delivered his report
Rudy had no official gov't office from which to launch an investigation. He's a private citizen. He has no power to compel testimony under penalty of indictment or perjury.
But you can bet that he dropped President Trump's name at every opportunity as both a potential financial carrot of financial aid and a potential stick of a public rhetorical payback to anyone who decided to willingly climb aboard the Trump bandwagon of an anti-Biden campaign of disinformation.
private citizens can conduct investigationsRudy conducted an investigation? That's a laugh!rudy conducted one, and ukraine conducted oneNope, you're lying. He asked a foreign national to launch an investigation into Biden.sure he wasHe wasn't simply asking for information. Why do you feel the need to lie like that? He asked the president of another country to find dirt on one of Trump's political rivals. And he asked for it to be public, so that it would politically damage Biden.he’s certainly alllowe to ask for informasrik. the same the clinton campaign did with their agent Steele.LOLAs a benefit to Trump's campaign, it qualified as a contribution or other thing of value.oh it wasn’t a donation...she didn’t violate that law. She paid the foreign nationalI see nothing in the law that makes her responsible for the who Fusion GPS hired unless she was involved with who they hired.what law are you referring to?Of course it does, unless you can show she was involved in the hiring of Christopher Steele. Just because you don't understand the law doesn't mean Hillary broke it.GPS Fusion, who then hired a foreigner. The fact that the process is one step remove doesn't get her off the hook. If it did, then candidates could pour unlimited amounts into foreign firms with the simple expedient of having their law firm spend the money.No, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
the principal-agent relationship and the law makes her responsible for her agents actions
And the law of which I speak is...
§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals(a) ProhibitionIt shall be unlawful for-(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
Rudy was being paid...moreover is an american...he’s allowed to investigate and collect Op Reseach!
Uh, no, not even an American like Rudy is permitted by law to solicit campaign aid from a foreign national. I showed you the law... I don't see any exemptions in there for Rudy.
just like steele did...and made it public
And why am I still waiting for you to show when Hillary took possession of the dossier?
and the clinton campaign hired a foreigner to conduct one
when steele delivered his report
Rudy had no official gov't office from which to launch an investigation. He's a private citizen. He has no power to compel testimony under penalty of indictment or perjury.
But you can bet that he dropped President Trump's name at every opportunity as both a potential financial carrot of financial aid and a potential stick of a public rhetorical payback to anyone who decided to willingly climb aboard the Trump bandwagon of an anti-Biden campaign of disinformation.
they do it all the time
what makes you think the Govt has a monopoly on the investigation business?Rudy conducted an investigation? That's a laugh!rudy conducted one, and ukraine conducted oneNope, you're lying. He asked a foreign national to launch an investigation into Biden.sure he wasHe wasn't simply asking for information. Why do you feel the need to lie like that? He asked the president of another country to find dirt on one of Trump's political rivals. And he asked for it to be public, so that it would politically damage Biden.he’s certainly alllowe to ask for informasrik. the same the clinton campaign did with their agent Steele.LOLAs a benefit to Trump's campaign, it qualified as a contribution or other thing of value.oh it wasn’t a donation...she didn’t violate that law. She paid the foreign nationalI see nothing in the law that makes her responsible for the who Fusion GPS hired unless she was involved with who they hired.what law are you referring to?Of course it does, unless you can show she was involved in the hiring of Christopher Steele. Just because you don't understand the law doesn't mean Hillary broke it.GPS Fusion, who then hired a foreigner. The fact that the process is one step remove doesn't get her off the hook. If it did, then candidates could pour unlimited amounts into foreign firms with the simple expedient of having their law firm spend the money.No, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
the principal-agent relationship and the law makes her responsible for her agents actions
And the law of which I speak is...
§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals(a) ProhibitionIt shall be unlawful for-(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of section 30104(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1) from a foreign national.
Rudy was being paid...moreover is an american...he’s allowed to investigate and collect Op Reseach!
Uh, no, not even an American like Rudy is permitted by law to solicit campaign aid from a foreign national. I showed you the law... I don't see any exemptions in there for Rudy.
just like steele did...and made it public
And why am I still waiting for you to show when Hillary took possession of the dossier?
and the clinton campaign hired a foreigner to conduct one
when steele delivered his report
Rudy had no official gov't office from which to launch an investigation. He's a private citizen. He has no power to compel testimony under penalty of indictment or perjury.
But you can bet that he dropped President Trump's name at every opportunity as both a potential financial carrot of financial aid and a potential stick of a public rhetorical payback to anyone who decided to willingly climb aboard the Trump bandwagon of an anti-Biden campaign of disinformation.
private citizens can and do conduct investigations all the time
Faun
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They might be. As far as Trump, he too is guilty and should be charged by the DoJ since he to solicited campaign aid from a foreign national.so the american firm clinton hired is “guilty” of what rudy’s firm did?Nope, not the same.but all your evidence of so called crimes is what the dnc and clinton did as well...well minus the fact Rudy is a US citizen and who they hired was a foreign spyIt doesn’t make any difference how compelling, documented, and objective the evidence of rightwing crimes and incompetence – dishonest conservatives will still ignore, deflect, and lie.That put a foreigner on its payroll while in the employ of Hillary Clinton.Correct and Fusion GPS is an American firm.Fusion GPS was on her payroll.Nope, he was on Fusion GPS payroll. Sweet, huh?No one said Hillary had anything to do with Rudy. She had to do with hiring Christopher Steel. The guy was on her payroll. Hillary gained possession when Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steel.You're lying again. You really should stop because you only hurt your own position. Of course Giuliani asked Ukraine to investigate Biden...Hillary has everything to do with it. She paid for it. How is that not having something to do with it?LOLrudy conducted one, and ukraine conducted one
You just can't stop lying, huh? Again, Rudy asked Ukraine to conduct an investigation.
You're lying about that too. Again, Hillary, who has nothing to do with this btw, hired an American firm.and the clinton campaign hired a foreigner to conduct one
Looks like you're lying about this too. Post the date she got it or you're lying.when steele delivered his report
That you can't stop lying reveals just how fragile your position is.
"And all we need… all we need from the President is to say: I'm gonna put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's gonna investigate and dig up the evidence, that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election."
And Hillary has nothing to do with Rudy. You're obviously deflecting to mitigate damage to Rudy.
And dates showing Hillary gained possession of the dossier, as it appears you lied about that too.
Who are you trying to fool?
No one is fooled.
Hillary solicited campaign aid from an American firm. Rudy, an American, solicited campaign aid from a foreign national.
and trump is as “guilty” as clinton for hiring rudy and she is for hiring the american. firm
No you don't, NAZI. Both she and Fusion GPS knew the law. They also knew that Christopher Steel was a foreigner.LOLOLThey broke our election laws, moron.Yeah, so?That put a foreigner on its payroll while in the employ of Hillary Clinton.Correct and Fusion GPS is an American firm.Fusion GPS was on her payroll.Nope, he was on Fusion GPS payroll. Sweet, huh?No one said Hillary had anything to do with Rudy. She had to do with hiring Christopher Steel. The guy was on her payroll. Hillary gained possession when Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steel.You're lying again. You really should stop because you only hurt your own position. Of course Giuliani asked Ukraine to investigate Biden...Hillary has everything to do with it. She paid for it. How is that not having something to do with it?LOLrudy conducted one, and ukraine conducted one
You just can't stop lying, huh? Again, Rudy asked Ukraine to conduct an investigation.
You're lying about that too. Again, Hillary, who has nothing to do with this btw, hired an American firm.and the clinton campaign hired a foreigner to conduct one
Looks like you're lying about this too. Post the date she got it or you're lying.when steele delivered his report
That you can't stop lying reveals just how fragile your position is.
"And all we need… all we need from the President is to say: I'm gonna put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's gonna investigate and dig up the evidence, that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election."
And Hillary has nothing to do with Rudy. You're obviously deflecting to mitigate damage to Rudy.
And dates showing Hillary gained possession of the dossier, as it appears you lied about that too.
Who are you trying to fool?
No one is fooled.
You failed to prove that, fucking moron. Again, you have to show she was involved with hiring Steele. Just saying, she had to have been only proves you're a fucking moron.
Case closed.
Have you ever heard of Paul Singer. He's a Jewish Billionaire Republican who hated Trump.
Trump dossier triggered by website funded by Jewish GOP mega-donor
Washington Free Beacon, supported by pro-Israel philanthropist Paul Singer, says it retained firm to do opposition research, but denies knowledge of file with damning allegations
www.timesofisrael.com
cool...but what does his faith have to do with anything? or is it just a thing with leftist to always point out when someone is jewish?No you don't, NAZI. Both she and Fusion GPS knew the law. They also knew that Christopher Steel was a foreigner.LOLOLThey broke our election laws, moron.Yeah, so?That put a foreigner on its payroll while in the employ of Hillary Clinton.Correct and Fusion GPS is an American firm.Fusion GPS was on her payroll.Nope, he was on Fusion GPS payroll. Sweet, huh?No one said Hillary had anything to do with Rudy. She had to do with hiring Christopher Steel. The guy was on her payroll. Hillary gained possession when Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steel.You're lying again. You really should stop because you only hurt your own position. Of course Giuliani asked Ukraine to investigate Biden...Hillary has everything to do with it. She paid for it. How is that not having something to do with it?LOLrudy conducted one, and ukraine conducted one
You just can't stop lying, huh? Again, Rudy asked Ukraine to conduct an investigation.
You're lying about that too. Again, Hillary, who has nothing to do with this btw, hired an American firm.and the clinton campaign hired a foreigner to conduct one
Looks like you're lying about this too. Post the date she got it or you're lying.when steele delivered his report
That you can't stop lying reveals just how fragile your position is.
"And all we need… all we need from the President is to say: I'm gonna put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's gonna investigate and dig up the evidence, that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election."
And Hillary has nothing to do with Rudy. You're obviously deflecting to mitigate damage to Rudy.
And dates showing Hillary gained possession of the dossier, as it appears you lied about that too.
Who are you trying to fool?
No one is fooled.
You failed to prove that, fucking moron. Again, you have to show she was involved with hiring Steele. Just saying, she had to have been only proves you're a fucking moron.
Case closed.
Have you ever heard of Paul Singer. He's a Jewish Billionaire Republican who hated Trump.
Trump dossier triggered by website funded by Jewish GOP mega-donor
Washington Free Beacon, supported by pro-Israel philanthropist Paul Singer, says it retained firm to do opposition research, but denies knowledge of file with damning allegations
moreover he has nothing to do with the topic.
but clinton gets a free pass? the dnc? why?They might be. As far as Trump, he too is guilty and should be charged by the DoJ since he to solicited campaign aid from a foreign national.so the american firm clinton hired is “guilty” of what rudy’s firm did?Nope, not the same.but all your evidence of so called crimes is what the dnc and clinton did as well...well minus the fact Rudy is a US citizen and who they hired was a foreign spyIt doesn’t make any difference how compelling, documented, and objective the evidence of rightwing crimes and incompetence – dishonest conservatives will still ignore, deflect, and lie.That put a foreigner on its payroll while in the employ of Hillary Clinton.Correct and Fusion GPS is an American firm.Fusion GPS was on her payroll.Nope, he was on Fusion GPS payroll. Sweet, huh?No one said Hillary had anything to do with Rudy. She had to do with hiring Christopher Steel. The guy was on her payroll. Hillary gained possession when Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steel.You're lying again. You really should stop because you only hurt your own position. Of course Giuliani asked Ukraine to investigate Biden...Hillary has everything to do with it. She paid for it. How is that not having something to do with it?LOLrudy conducted one, and ukraine conducted one
You just can't stop lying, huh? Again, Rudy asked Ukraine to conduct an investigation.
You're lying about that too. Again, Hillary, who has nothing to do with this btw, hired an American firm.and the clinton campaign hired a foreigner to conduct one
Looks like you're lying about this too. Post the date she got it or you're lying.when steele delivered his report
That you can't stop lying reveals just how fragile your position is.
"And all we need… all we need from the President is to say: I'm gonna put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's gonna investigate and dig up the evidence, that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election."
And Hillary has nothing to do with Rudy. You're obviously deflecting to mitigate damage to Rudy.
And dates showing Hillary gained possession of the dossier, as it appears you lied about that too.
Who are you trying to fool?
No one is fooled.
Hillary solicited campaign aid from an American firm. Rudy, an American, solicited campaign aid from a foreign national.
and trump is as “guilty” as clinton for hiring rudy and she is for hiring the american. firm
Faun
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Because neither Clinton nor the DNC solicited foreign aid for a campaign; whereas both Giuliani and Trump did.but clinton gets a free pass? the dnc? why?They might be. As far as Trump, he too is guilty and should be charged by the DoJ since he to solicited campaign aid from a foreign national.so the american firm clinton hired is “guilty” of what rudy’s firm did?Nope, not the same.but all your evidence of so called crimes is what the dnc and clinton did as well...well minus the fact Rudy is a US citizen and who they hired was a foreign spyIt doesn’t make any difference how compelling, documented, and objective the evidence of rightwing crimes and incompetence – dishonest conservatives will still ignore, deflect, and lie.That put a foreigner on its payroll while in the employ of Hillary Clinton.Correct and Fusion GPS is an American firm.Fusion GPS was on her payroll.Nope, he was on Fusion GPS payroll. Sweet, huh?No one said Hillary had anything to do with Rudy. She had to do with hiring Christopher Steel. The guy was on her payroll. Hillary gained possession when Fusion GPS hired Christopher Steel.You're lying again. You really should stop because you only hurt your own position. Of course Giuliani asked Ukraine to investigate Biden...Hillary has everything to do with it. She paid for it. How is that not having something to do with it?LOLrudy conducted one, and ukraine conducted one
You just can't stop lying, huh? Again, Rudy asked Ukraine to conduct an investigation.
You're lying about that too. Again, Hillary, who has nothing to do with this btw, hired an American firm.and the clinton campaign hired a foreigner to conduct one
Looks like you're lying about this too. Post the date she got it or you're lying.when steele delivered his report
That you can't stop lying reveals just how fragile your position is.
"And all we need… all we need from the President is to say: I'm gonna put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's gonna investigate and dig up the evidence, that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election."
And Hillary has nothing to do with Rudy. You're obviously deflecting to mitigate damage to Rudy.
And dates showing Hillary gained possession of the dossier, as it appears you lied about that too.
Who are you trying to fool?
No one is fooled.
Hillary solicited campaign aid from an American firm. Rudy, an American, solicited campaign aid from a foreign national.
and trump is as “guilty” as clinton for hiring rudy and she is for hiring the american. firm
Are you done diverting to Clinton now in a thread about Giuliani?
Admiral Rockwell Tory
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So was Trump and the Dumbocrats impeached him for it!Joe Biden's Ukraine corruption SHOULD be investigated. Biden is corrupt to the core.Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
Biden was following US foreign policy to the letter, stupid.
Admiral Rockwell Tory
Diamond Member
Believe it or not, here's what we're expected to believe: A lawyer who represents the president of the United States and who claims he is in possession of evidence that there was massive fraud in the presidential election finally goes to a court of law. It's his (or her) opportunity to make the biggest splash of their collective careers by providing world-grabbing headlines of voter fraud which potentially changed the outcome of a national election, and what happens?Risk of sanctions and/or disbarment. Same reason reputable firms all turned tail and Donnie was stuck with maniacal has beens like Rudy, Sidney & Lin Wood.What evidence? I keep hearing people talk about evidence when they're standing at a microphone somewhere, but it's never presented when they're in a court of law. Why do you think that is?Can't you clowns give it a rest for one day?....Just one?
Another day, another.....
There's going to be a reckoning, and I reckon that Giuliani isn't going to like it one bit. Feel free to send him money for his defense.
Right after you clowns stop screaming about "stolen elections".
So basically, never, despite the fact that all the evidence and truth is on our side.
No evidence is presented!
That kind of says it all, doesn't it?
No evidence was ever presented because of this little thing called "standing". I suggest you get an elementary school student look it up and explain it to you.
Believe it or not, here's what we're expected to believe: A lawyer who represents the president of the United States and who claims he is in possession of evidence that there was massive fraud in the presidential election finally goes to a court of law. It's his (or her) opportunity to make the biggest splash of their collective careers by providing world-grabbing headlines of voter fraud which potentially changed the outcome of a national election, and what happens?Risk of sanctions and/or disbarment. Same reason reputable firms all turned tail and Donnie was stuck with maniacal has beens like Rudy, Sidney & Lin Wood.What evidence? I keep hearing people talk about evidence when they're standing at a microphone somewhere, but it's never presented when they're in a court of law. Why do you think that is?Can't you clowns give it a rest for one day?....Just one?
Another day, another.....
There's going to be a reckoning, and I reckon that Giuliani isn't going to like it one bit. Feel free to send him money for his defense.
Right after you clowns stop screaming about "stolen elections".
So basically, never, despite the fact that all the evidence and truth is on our side.
No evidence is presented!
That kind of says it all, doesn't it?
No evidence was ever presented because of this little thing called "standing". I suggest you get an elementary school student look it up and explain it to you.
This is a load of horse hockey. Why do we keep telling the same lies over and over?
Fact check: Courts have dismissed multiple lawsuits of alleged electoral fraud presented by Trump campaign
Following President Joe Biden’s swearing in on Jan. 20, a Facebook post shared over 6,140 times has said: “Not one court has looked at the evidence and said that Biden legally won. Not one”. This is false: state and federal judges dismissed more than 50 lawsuits presented by then President...
www.reuters.com
Admiral Rockwell Tory
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Biden, his son Hunter, his brother and his sister were all involved. You don't read too well, so you?Syndicate? That's hilarious.the DoJ was already investigating the Xiden crime syndicateIt's not difficult at all to see what was going on. In fact, it's very easy. Despite the fact that Trump called Biden weak, among other names like Sleepy Joe, he understood that Biden was his most formidable potential opponent. As a consequence, Trump wanted to sully Biden's name in the minds of the American electorate which could very well cost him hundreds of thousands of votes, if not millions. But the American judicial system was not going to engage in a sham investigation because evidence is required, and a politically motivated prosecution could lead to corruption charges, disbarment, and prison time for anyone who participated in such a scheme.The OP obviously doesn't realize that CNN is an arm of the DNC. From the OP's link:
"All we need from the President [Zelensky] is to say, I'm gonna put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's gonna investigate and dig up the evidence, that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election, and then the Biden thing has to be run out," Giuliani said, according to the audio. "... Somebody in Ukraine's gotta take that seriously."
The new audio demonstrates how Giuliani aggressively cajoled the Ukrainians to do Trump's bidding. And it undermines Trump's oft-repeated assertion that "there was no quid pro quo" where Zelensky could secure US government support if he did political favors for Trump.
That there that I put in italics is not supported by the statement they published just above. Honesly do any of you TDSers actually READ what you post?
But Ukraine had a history of corruption, and they were also desperate for US military and financial aid. As a result, Trump used his personal attorney working outside of any formal gov't authority like the State Dept. to convey a quid pro quo message to Ukrainian President Zelensky about how to smooth the way to get the aid his country needed. This is a good place to note that Giuliani wasn't trying to get Zelensky to actually really DO anything. He was instructing Zelensky on what to SAY, including the dubious claim the evidence already existed.
["All we need from the President [Zelensky] is to say, I'm gonna put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's gonna investigate and dig up the evidence, that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election, and then the Biden thing has to be run out,"}
But that wasn't quite enough for Trump because he also wanted the Ukrainians to admit to interfering in the 2016 election against Trump despite the fact that they weren't involved at all. Finally, Giuliani said that "the Biden thing has to be run out" meaning they wanted it to be dragged out as long as possible, preferably until the point that Biden lost the nomination to Bernie Sanders who Trump knew would be a much easier opponent to defeat, or up to the 2020 election just in case Biden won the nomination despite the smear campaign.
This was a full court press by Trump and Giuliani outside of any formal US Gov't avenues of contact between sovereign states. But the Ukrainians didn't take the bait, and Trump continued to withhold the aid until a formal abuse of power complaint was made by Major Vindman who had listened in on the call at which point Trump knew that the cat was out of the bag, so to speak, and he released the previously approved military aid in an effort to make it appear that there was no quid pro quo.
Trump didn’t make that public, we found that out after the election
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DrLove
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Reuters won’t be good enough for loony birds like Tory.Believe it or not, here's what we're expected to believe: A lawyer who represents the president of the United States and who claims he is in possession of evidence that there was massive fraud in the presidential election finally goes to a court of law. It's his (or her) opportunity to make the biggest splash of their collective careers by providing world-grabbing headlines of voter fraud which potentially changed the outcome of a national election, and what happens?Risk of sanctions and/or disbarment. Same reason reputable firms all turned tail and Donnie was stuck with maniacal has beens like Rudy, Sidney & Lin Wood.What evidence? I keep hearing people talk about evidence when they're standing at a microphone somewhere, but it's never presented when they're in a court of law. Why do you think that is?Can't you clowns give it a rest for one day?....Just one?
Another day, another.....
There's going to be a reckoning, and I reckon that Giuliani isn't going to like it one bit. Feel free to send him money for his defense.
Right after you clowns stop screaming about "stolen elections".
So basically, never, despite the fact that all the evidence and truth is on our side.
No evidence is presented!
That kind of says it all, doesn't it?
No evidence was ever presented because of this little thing called "standing". I suggest you get an elementary school student look it up and explain it to you.
This is a load of horse hockey. Why do we keep telling the same lies over and over?
Fact check: Courts have dismissed multiple lawsuits of alleged electoral fraud presented by Trump campaign
Following President Joe Biden’s swearing in on Jan. 20, a Facebook post shared over 6,140 times has said: “Not one court has looked at the evidence and said that Biden legally won. Not one”. This is false: state and federal judges dismissed more than 50 lawsuits presented by then President...
What do Hateway Pundit and DailySmeller have to say on the matter?
Admiral Rockwell Tory
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Faun cannot read. I thought everyone knew that!You oviously didn't read the part that says "directly or indirectly."Thanks for repeating the law I posted. Just in case others didn't see it.I see nothing in the law that makes her responsible for the who Fusion GPS hired unless she was involved with who they hired.what law are you referring to?Of course it does, unless you can show she was involved in the hiring of Christopher Steele. Just because you don't understand the law doesn't mean Hillary broke it.GPS Fusion, who then hired a foreigner. The fact that the process is one step remove doesn't get her off the hook. If it did, then candidates could pour unlimited amounts into foreign firms with the simple expedient of having their law firm spend the money.No, I don't remember that. My recollection is that Hillary hired Fusion GPS, an American based firm.what's the code section?That's not, but trying to get a foreign national to eliminate a political rival is.Telling the Ukraines to hire a non corrupt prosecutor is a crime to you?Giuliani is some very serious legal trouble here. When this is combined with all the other likely upcoming charges against Rudy, he'd better get himself the best lawyer he can find because he's sure going to need help staying out of prison.
And in case anyone misses the point, any criminal conspiracy to commit a crime which is planned and executed by a lawyer and his client effectively negates any protections of a lawyer/client privileged and confidential communication.
I certainly hope that Giuliani is fully prepared for when Trump disavows any knowledge of what his lawyer was doing because that's been Trump's MO for decades.
Exclusive: New audio of 2019 phone call reveals how Giuliani pressured Ukraine to investigate baseless Biden conspiracies
Never-before-heard audio, obtained exclusively by CNN, shows how former President Donald Trump's longtime adviser Rudy Giuliani relentlessly pressured and coaxed the Ukrainian government in 2019 to investigate baseless conspiracies about then-candidate Joe Biden.
What a read. They sure are a dirty bunch.
Lock him up!
The only people I know that have actually hired a foreign national to "eliminate" a political rival is the DNC and Clinton when they hired Steele....don't you remember that?
the principal-agent relationship and the law makes her responsible for her agents actions
And the law of which I speak is...
§30121 Contributions and donations by foreign nationals(a) ProhibitionIt shall be unlawful for-(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or
You don't? What part of
"It shall be unlawful for-(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make-
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political party; or"didn't you understand?
DrLove
Diamond Member
You are thinking of a handful of “standing” tosses like when the corrupt Texas AG attempted a desperate latch ditch effort because he didn’t like the election laws in other states.Believe it or not, here's what we're expected to believe: A lawyer who represents the president of the United States and who claims he is in possession of evidence that there was massive fraud in the presidential election finally goes to a court of law. It's his (or her) opportunity to make the biggest splash of their collective careers by providing world-grabbing headlines of voter fraud which potentially changed the outcome of a national election, and what happens?Risk of sanctions and/or disbarment. Same reason reputable firms all turned tail and Donnie was stuck with maniacal has beens like Rudy, Sidney & Lin Wood.What evidence? I keep hearing people talk about evidence when they're standing at a microphone somewhere, but it's never presented when they're in a court of law. Why do you think that is?Can't you clowns give it a rest for one day?....Just one?
Another day, another.....
There's going to be a reckoning, and I reckon that Giuliani isn't going to like it one bit. Feel free to send him money for his defense.
Right after you clowns stop screaming about "stolen elections".
So basically, never, despite the fact that all the evidence and truth is on our side.
No evidence is presented!
That kind of says it all, doesn't it?
No evidence was ever presented because of this little thing called "standing". I suggest you get an elementary school student look it up and explain it to you.
Most of the others were indeed lack of evidence aka “lack of merit”.
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