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[The2ndAmendment]

Again you have no idea what you are talking about. paulbot take your Jew hating ass elsewhere fool.

Here comes the "race" card.

I am Jewish, and I fully support what the other guy said.

You support Al Qaeda and the traitors like Obama and Mccain who aid and abet them.

 

[thanatos144]

Would you mind naming some of these "great lies" so they we may have a discussion about it?

Or are you simply Neo-con propaganda filth?

Term limits, Pork, Spending, Sending men to war refusing to pay for them to have bullets Armour or food, ect ect ect. Your God has clay feet.

I'm sorry, what was the lies there?

He ,lied about his stand on all.... He never once walked the walked.... He was all fucking air.

 

[thanatos144]

Actually that's all you and the liberals you're in bed with have offered.

We're for reducing the Federal government to it's constitutionally mandated role, and we're for fighting our own wars but not other people's. If you consider that cowardice, go ahead and join the Syrian army yourself.

How is not being libertarian make one a liberal please? Explain to me how conservatism is liberal? How do you liberally conserve?

Liberals use the state to accomplish their nefarious goals. And so do the "conservatives"

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And where did I do that? you wouldn't understand conservative ever you Jew hating fool.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

You are showing your ignorance. Wanting a population to have a education is not evil you fool. How you use it it.... Like guns

I plan to use my guns to wipe out Authoritarian trash.

First thing I'm doing when the Rule of Law is Restored, is accessing the Utah NSA Spy Center, and finding every fucking scumbag that supported the Authoritarians in the media, within in the government and on the internet itself.

You'll all be sent a letter giving you 12 months to leave the country, after that you'll be tried for treason under penalty of death.

Can't wait to see you flee like the Nazis fled Germany.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

You guys dont get it.....we ether have unalienable Rights to Life or we have allowed others to take it from us. For crying out loud we take it from the most innocent of us daily at a staggering rate. And what do you libertarians say? Liberty is more important then life.

You got it, Liberty is more important than life, many Men died for Liberty in the American Revolution.

Die a free man, don't live to be a slave.

Without Liberty, you are not alive, your are in perpetual bondage, you have lost your soul and your freewill, the reason you were Created.

And yet Life is forefront of our inalienable rights

So you claiming it isn't worth dying for Liberty? Our ancestors should have cowered to the Rule of the Crown? Martin Luther King should have stayed silent? The Warsaw Jews should have marched to the concentration cmaps instead of fighting to the death?

Have you read your own SIGNATURE [MENTION=18909]thanatos144[/MENTION] ?

the 2nd amendment isn't just there so I can protect my family against rape and murder by a citizen it is there to protect them against the government .

Yes, that is your philosophy, Slavery before Liberty. That's why you're Neo-Con scum.

Your signature contradicts your own message.

 

[thanatos144]

so far you haven't even proven you can write a coherent post

This is what you have?????I show you Libertarian hypocrisy and this is what you come back with. Hell I have even been very respectful in my debate with you. You see You I disagree with and have shown you why in at least one aspect. It is so much better then debating the racist and paulbot libertarian persuasion.

all you've said is "abortion, abortion, abortion" and you didn't "show" anything, you just kept repeating your position

Thats because that was what i was debating.... Make up your mind! You dont want me debating Pot so I chose abortion to show Libertarian hypocrisy. What about this is so hard for you to grasp? Murder is very important to me and my core ideals.

 

[thanatos144]

You got it, Liberty is more important than life, many Men died for Liberty in the American Revolution.

Die a free man, don't live to be a slave.

Without Liberty, you are not alive, your are in perpetual bondage, you have lost your soul and your freewill, the reason you were Created.

And yet Life is forefront of our inalienable rights

Life, liberty and property. You're tossing a woman's liberty out the window and making her body the property of government.

So in your liberty first mind what gives the woman's liberty to kill more priority over the babies liberty to live?

 

[thanatos144]

Again you have no idea what you are talking about. paulbot take your Jew hating ass elsewhere fool.

Here comes the "race" card.

I am Jewish, and I fully support what the other guy said.

You support Al Qaeda and the traitors like Obama and Mccain who aid and abet them.

I didn't quote you in that post ether. Is it normal for you to be so dishonest?

By the way asswipe I dont support any of them. But you never asked did you you fucking fool?

 

[thanatos144]

You are showing your ignorance. Wanting a population to have a education is not evil you fool. How you use it it.... Like guns

I plan to use my guns to wipe out Authoritarian trash.

First thing I'm doing when the Rule of Law is Restored, is accessing the Utah NSA Spy Center, and finding every fucking scumbag that supported the Authoritarians in the media, within in the government and on the internet itself.

You'll all be sent a letter giving you 12 months to leave the country, after that you'll be tried for treason under penalty of death.

Can't wait to see you flee like the Nazis fled Germany.

Violence first kind of tool are you?

 

[Avorysuds]

I have only met very few Libertarians that support the eugenics Progressive movement that murders babies.

And with enough education and conversation, and you remedy this defect in any true Libertarian.

Yeah, it's kinda interesting that the admitted noobie to the Libertarian platform claims we all want abortion yet he sites Ron and Rand Paul at every turn, 2 people that are against Abortions....

He's simply to intelligent to see the error of his ways, but that's cool, I like knowing he's a joke on these boards.

do you support making it illegal? and does the party platform do that? Be careful how you answer because unlike you I have read the platform.

I agree with Ron Paul on the issue of defining when life begins for legal purposes. I personally believe that it's up to the mother and doctor if they will do an abortion. I don't believe in God so I don't fear hell, thus making this issue personal between the parties affected by the decision. To me life to be begins after birth, until that moment we don't know and can't say if there would have been complications or not.

I am also not one that believe children are the only reason for my existence and that anyone who disagrees should be put to death for being a child hater. These children grow up and become bottom feeding lowlifes just like you, they are not immune to bad choices simply because at one point they were an infant.

So no I don;t have to be careful how I answer the question, and if you read the libertarian position on this it was more than likely because i gave you the link to the platform of the Libertarian party... that I have read a long time ago.

 

[Contumacious]

You say that yet you support social issues that are counter productive to it...Point in fact. Libertarians can not support the declaration of independence and yet support a woman liberty to kill her unborn. Why? Because your saying the child doesnt have a right to live.



Thats just one hypocrisy of your movement.

I have only met very few Libertarians that support the eugenics Progressive movement that murders babies.

And with enough education and conversation, and you remedy this defect in any true Libertarian.

So the party platform is to make abortion illegal? Or is it that women have the liberty to make the choice to murder her baby?

Why the fuck then do you support allowing AQ to murder Christian babies?

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[TheSeventhTiger]

any combination of Paul/Carson is fine with me!

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Again you have no idea what you are talking about. paulbot take your Jew hating ass elsewhere fool.

Here comes the "race" card.

I am Jewish, and I fully support what the other guy said.

You support Al Qaeda and the traitors like Obama and Mccain who aid and abet them.

I didn't quote you in that post ether. Is it normal for you to be so dishonest?

By the way asswipe I dont support any of them. But you never asked did you you fucking fool?

Then why are you defending them? You're from the Zionist lobby?

 

[g5000]

Here is the actual survey:
http://images.politico.com/global/2...rvey_-_topline_results_base_survey_final.html

If I was the GOP, I'd be worried about question 5 where 18 percent of respondents said they were "Strong Republican" while 25 percent said "Strong Democrat".

Question 8 only offers Republicans three choices to choose from for their top priority: taxes, gay marriage/abortion, or strong defense. This is the question the OP link chose to headline.

However, in subsequent questions, respondents were able to choose from a wider variety of issues, and government spending (question 10B) came out as the winner for being people's top issue, with the national debt (question 10A) coming in a close second.



The greatest accomplishment of Obama has been ObamaCare (22%) (question 16).


The greatest disappointment of Obama has been ObamaCare (15%) (question 17).


Question 25B: the Democrats and Republicans tie for party which cares the most about lower taxes for the middle class.


Question 26: the Republicans are the most likely to cut spending.

Question 27: the Democrats are the party most likely to reform government.


Question 36: 36 percent favorable, 34% unfavorable toward Libertarians.

Question 34: 44 percent have no idea what Libertarians believe in.


Question 47: 58 percent of blacks believe we have made little progress on civil rights since "I Have A Dream" speech.


Question 49: 32 percent of blacks believe the Democratic Party takes their vote for granted.



Question 53: 42 percent believe the government has read their email, tracked their online activity, or read their phone records.


Question 57: 61 percent believe government has too much power.

 

[Avorysuds]

This therad is so like having TM around it's creepy... Just everyone beating the crap outa thanantos.

 

[thanatos144]

Here comes the "race" card.

I am Jewish, and I fully support what the other guy said.

You support Al Qaeda and the traitors like Obama and Mccain who aid and abet them.

I didn't quote you in that post ether. Is it normal for you to be so dishonest?

By the way asswipe I dont support any of them. But you never asked did you you fucking fool?

Then why are you defending them? You're from the Zionist lobby?

I didnt defend them yet I do like pointing out Jew hatred .

 

[Contumacious]

Because it is so much better to have a population of illiterate fools ?

Interesting, your avatar says "Socialism is cancer<" yet, you support the bedrock of socialism. It is this education system that you defending that is solely responsible for the Marxist/Trendy/No Values mindset that we have today.

You sir, seem to be the LARGEST support of Socialism.

I'm sure you'd agree with MNSBC
[MENTION=18909]thanatos144[/MENTION] a Marxist bastard that wants your children

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3qtpdSQox0]MSNBC Host Melissa Harris-Perry » All Your Kids Belong To Us - YouTube[/ame]

You are showing your ignorance. Wanting a population to have a education is not evil you fool. How you use it it.... Like guns

An EDUCATED population knows the difference between education and indoctrination.

An educated population QUESTIONS - do not submit to - authority.

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[Vox]

As long as people are allowed to use deadly force in self defense against drug addicts, legalize it all. Just STOP funding their medical care.

Should we stop funding the medical care of fat people too for eating too much crap?

we should CHARGE them and provide only limited services if there is no money.

same with drug addicts.

you can use and do whatever you want.

You just have to pay for it.

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

every red and swing state need to really start gaurding all of their precincts to make sure we win. no one trusts philly/nevada/ohio and chicago as some examples. yah, 9000 votes for Obama and 0 votes for Romney in philly?

 

[kaz]

And yet Life is forefront of our inalienable rights

Life, liberty and property. You're tossing a woman's liberty out the window and making her body the property of government.

So in your liberty first mind what gives the woman's liberty to kill more priority over the babies liberty to live?

You keep quoting the founders. They supported life, liberty and property. You only support one of the three and that one while depriving someone else of the other two. I support all three and that no one has the right to deprive someone else of any of them.

And you have yet to show where the founders believed that abortion should be Federal and not State law, which they never thought to mention.