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[thanatos144]

You're a one trick pony, I'm not arguing abortion with you any more, if you want to move off that, we can have a discussion.

Now dont get butt hurt that your proven wrong again and again.

so far you haven't even proven you can write a coherent post

This is what you have?????I show you Libertarian hypocrisy and this is what you come back with. Hell I have even been very respectful in my debate with you. You see You I disagree with and have shown you why in at least one aspect. It is so much better then debating the racist and paulbot libertarian persuasion.

 

[bendog]

Actually that's all you and the liberals you're in bed with have offered.

We're for reducing the Federal government to it's constitutionally mandated role, and we're for fighting our own wars but not other people's. If you consider that cowardice, go ahead and join the Syrian army yourself.

Strangely that's what conservatives believe too. Maybe you've been misled?

So by "libertarian" not being a conservative or a liberal, you thought that meant that I had to come to completely different answers then either of you on every position? I'm a libertarian. I agree with Republicans on fiscal issues, except I mean it. I agree with liberals on social issues, except I mean it. Militarily you're both screwed up.

I agree with lots of conservatives on lots of things, I never said otherwise. However, what you said is not what Republican politicians are doing. Which is why I left he party circa 1990 when I realized that HW and his party suck.

Agreed. Any attempt to pigenhole the discussion by liberal or conservative is hopeless, which unfortunately is where the thread went.

 

[Contumacious]

Legalized drugs and isolationism. That's pretty well it. The Soviets actually had that plan for the U.S. as well.

Interesting SWITZERLAND which is NEUTRAL and practices NON-INTERVENTIONISM has the strongest ECONOMY and CURRENCY in the world.

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They also have a high cheese consumption. Which is about as relevant.

Only if you are slow in the uptake

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[The2ndAmendment]

Eight pages and the narco-libertarians remain focused on dope and cowardice. I guess that really is all they have to offer.

I was under the impression that the United States Army and NATO were running all the drugs from Afghanistan.

But I don't hold it against them, they would be court martialed by the Neo-Con scumbags like Mccain and Graham and Peter King, if they didn't, you know, the Neo-Cons that you support.

 

[thanatos144]

Holy crap, so you are in the fight for TM's spot as stupidest poster on any forums on the internet... Greeeat.

Still waiting for your apology for lying about me.

Yeah, even when directly quoted you can't admit to saying something. Like I said, you're in the race for being the most stupid poster on these forums and possibly the internet.

You lied and I expect a apology

 

[thanatos144]

So did say this: "Boil down modern libertarianism to this.... Legal hooker, Drugs and abortion on demand..."

libertarians certainly would support those things being legal, the issue with your statement are the words "boil down." Boiling down libertarianism would be that we support minimizing government in our wallets, in our bedrooms and in other country's business (military). Those are just some transactional positions, not a boiling down of our views.

You say that yet you support social issues that are counter productive to it...Point in fact. Libertarians can not support the declaration of independence and yet support a woman liberty to kill her unborn. Why? Because your saying the child doesnt have a right to live.

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Yet you financially and militarily support Al Qaeda in their quest to kill children merely because they are Catholic.

What a slimy scumbag.

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Again you have no idea what you are talking about. paulbot take your Jew hating ass elsewhere fool.

 

[jgarden]

If someone hits something or there is other probable cause (e.g., weaving) on public roads, then government has every right to test the driver.

Thats after a person is potentially harmed... So tell me how is pot Not harming others?


Hypocrisy of your movement is in every party of it. It is a movement of young men and women who have grown up in a liberal society and mistakenly think you can be fiscally conservative and liberally social. In other words you all want your cake and want to eat it too.

What gives you the right to preemptively make people's choices for them? Quoting the Declaration of Independence and Constitution won't get you there.

In addition to throwing out the word "hypocrisy," at some point are you going to show any hypocritical position?

Kent Snyder's outstanding medical debt of $360 000 from 2008 and the failure of "his friends and neighbors " in the libertarian movement is cover it has "hypocrisy" written all over it!

 

[The2ndAmendment]

You guys dont get it.....we ether have unalienable Rights to Life or we have allowed others to take it from us. For crying out loud we take it from the most innocent of us daily at a staggering rate. And what do you libertarians say? Liberty is more important then life.

You got it, Liberty is more important than life, many Men died for Liberty in the American Revolution.

Die a free man, don't live to be a slave.

Without Liberty, you are not alive, your are in perpetual bondage, you have lost your soul and your freewill, the reason you were Created.

 

[thanatos144]

Ron Paul is a lying piece of shit. Rand I dont know yet. I disagree with some of what he says some I agree. I dont know how far this apple fell from the tree.

Would you mind naming some of these "great lies" so they we may have a discussion about it?

Or are you simply Neo-con propaganda filth?

Term limits, Pork, Spending, Sending men to war refusing to pay for them to have bullets Armour or food, ect ect ect. Your God has clay feet.

 

[Avorysuds]

You say that yet you support social issues that are counter productive to it...Point in fact. Libertarians can not support the declaration of independence and yet support a woman liberty to kill her unborn. Why? Because your saying the child doesnt have a right to live.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness

Thats just one hypocrisy of your movement.

I have only met very few Libertarians that support the eugenics Progressive movement that murders babies.

And with enough education and conversation, and you remedy this defect in any true Libertarian.

Yeah, it's kinda interesting that the admitted noobie to the Libertarian platform claims we all want abortion yet he sites Ron and Rand Paul at every turn, 2 people that are against Abortions....

He's simply to intelligent to see the error of his ways, but that's cool, I like knowing he's a joke on these boards.

 

[thanatos144]

Because it is so much better to have a population of illiterate fools ?

Interesting, your avatar says "Socialism is cancer<" yet, you support the bedrock of socialism. It is this education system that you defending that is solely responsible for the Marxist/Trendy/No Values mindset that we have today.

You sir, seem to be the LARGEST support of Socialism.

I'm sure you'd agree with MNSBC
[MENTION=18909]thanatos144[/MENTION] a Marxist bastard that wants your children

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You are showing your ignorance. Wanting a population to have a education is not evil you fool. How you use it it.... Like guns

 

[Avorysuds]

Ron Paul is a lying piece of shit. Rand I dont know yet. I disagree with some of what he says some I agree. I dont know how far this apple fell from the tree.

Would you mind naming some of these "great lies" so they we may have a discussion about it?

Or are you simply Neo-con propaganda filth?

Term limits, Pork, Spending, Sending men to war refusing to pay for them to have bullets Armour or food, ect ect ect. Your God has clay feet.

I'm sorry, what was the lies there?

 

[thanatos144]

You say that yet you support social issues that are counter productive to it...Point in fact. Libertarians can not support the declaration of independence and yet support a woman liberty to kill her unborn. Why? Because your saying the child doesnt have a right to live.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness

Thats just one hypocrisy of your movement.

I have only met very few Libertarians that support the eugenics Progressive movement that murders babies.

And with enough education and conversation, and you remedy this defect in any true Libertarian.

So the party platform is to make abortion illegal? Or is it that women have the liberty to make the choice to murder her baby?

 

[Contumacious]

Eight pages and the narco-libertarians remain focused on dope and cowardice. I guess that really is all they have to offer.

Actually that's all you and the liberals you're in bed with have offered.

We're for reducing the Federal government to it's constitutionally mandated role, and we're for fighting our own wars but not other people's. If you consider that cowardice, go ahead and join the Syrian army yourself.

How is not being libertarian make one a liberal please? Explain to me how conservatism is liberal? How do you liberally conserve?

Liberals use the state to accomplish their nefarious goals. And so do the "conservatives"

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[kaz]

Now dont get butt hurt that your proven wrong again and again.

so far you haven't even proven you can write a coherent post

This is what you have?????I show you Libertarian hypocrisy and this is what you come back with. Hell I have even been very respectful in my debate with you. You see You I disagree with and have shown you why in at least one aspect. It is so much better then debating the racist and paulbot libertarian persuasion.

all you've said is "abortion, abortion, abortion" and you didn't "show" anything, you just kept repeating your position

 

[Old Rocks]

Pot will be legalized. Mainly for 30% taxation, but at least it will be nice to not have any dry spells again, unless the grade of weed is low that is sold.

I fully support decriminalizing Marijuana. However, Pot Heads shouldn't rejoice too much if it happens. Government only serves Government. It could care less about the People. Government will find a way to make a fortune while at the same time screwing the People. It destroys just about everything it touches. So while it will be great to see Marijuana decriminalized, there will be a big downside in Government getting involved.

And this is why the libertarians will never be a major factor in our government. If government destroys everything it touchs, how did we get the first trans-continental railroad? The Interstate Highway System? How about the vaccination for polio in the '50's? As long as libertarians spout the nonsense that all government is evil, they will an anthema to sane and intelligent people.

 

[thanatos144]

You guys dont get it.....we ether have unalienable Rights to Life or we have allowed others to take it from us. For crying out loud we take it from the most innocent of us daily at a staggering rate. And what do you libertarians say? Liberty is more important then life.

You got it, Liberty is more important than life, many Men died for Liberty in the American Revolution.

Die a free man, don't live to be a slave.

Without Liberty, you are not alive, your are in perpetual bondage, you have lost your soul and your freewill, the reason you were Created.

And yet Life is forefront of our inalienable rights

 

[kaz]

Thats after a person is potentially harmed... So tell me how is pot Not harming others?


Hypocrisy of your movement is in every party of it. It is a movement of young men and women who have grown up in a liberal society and mistakenly think you can be fiscally conservative and liberally social. In other words you all want your cake and want to eat it too.

What gives you the right to preemptively make people's choices for them? Quoting the Declaration of Independence and Constitution won't get you there.

In addition to throwing out the word "hypocrisy," at some point are you going to show any hypocritical position?

Kent Snyder's outstanding medical debt of $360 000 from 2008 and the failure of "his friends and neighbors " in the libertarian movement is cover it has "hypocrisy" written all over it!

We didn't meet an arbitrary hurdle assigned to us by a liberal. Wow, I'm embarrassed...

 

[thanatos144]

You say that yet you support social issues that are counter productive to it...Point in fact. Libertarians can not support the declaration of independence and yet support a woman liberty to kill her unborn. Why? Because your saying the child doesnt have a right to live.



Thats just one hypocrisy of your movement.

I have only met very few Libertarians that support the eugenics Progressive movement that murders babies.

And with enough education and conversation, and you remedy this defect in any true Libertarian.

Yeah, it's kinda interesting that the admitted noobie to the Libertarian platform claims we all want abortion yet he sites Ron and Rand Paul at every turn, 2 people that are against Abortions....

He's simply to intelligent to see the error of his ways, but that's cool, I like knowing he's a joke on these boards.

do you support making it illegal? and does the party platform do that? Be careful how you answer because unlike you I have read the platform.

 

[kaz]

You guys dont get it.....we ether have unalienable Rights to Life or we have allowed others to take it from us. For crying out loud we take it from the most innocent of us daily at a staggering rate. And what do you libertarians say? Liberty is more important then life.

You got it, Liberty is more important than life, many Men died for Liberty in the American Revolution.

Die a free man, don't live to be a slave.

Without Liberty, you are not alive, your are in perpetual bondage, you have lost your soul and your freewill, the reason you were Created.

And yet Life is forefront of our inalienable rights

Life, liberty and property. You're tossing a woman's liberty out the window and making her body the property of government.