Nikki Haley alleged she was set up by Democratic 'plant' after being asked what caused the Civil War

[BS Filter]

So you believe the audience had some ignorant people asking her questions??? That is how I size it up. Slavery has died out 155 years ago. It seems stupid to dwell on slavery.

It is stupid, but it's all democrats have. They're politically bankrupt.

 

[IM2]

No one is detached from slavery.

Not one race, nationality, or political party.

There are a few who still practice though.

The American government made slavery legal here. Haley is running to be the Executive head of the American government. Not Africa. The American government is attached to sllavery at every level. Whites controlled that government. It's time to stop this dishonest garbage.

 

[IM2]

It is stupid, but it's all democrats have. They're politically bankrupt.

Your party has a man indicted on 91 felony counts and you say Democrats are politically bankrupt.

 

[DukeU]

It's time to stop this dishonest garbage.

Which part is dishonest?

 

[DukeU]

Your party has a man indicted on 91 felony counts and you say Democrats are politically bankrupt.

Innocent until proven guilty.

 

[Wobbly]

Contrary to the diplomas MAGAts have earned from Google High School, the Civil War was fought over slavery. More specifically, it was fought over whether slavery would be allowed to expand. Lincoln was not even demanding the end of slavery, merely restrictions on its spread. Not many southerners owned slaves, and fewer still owned more than a few slaves Whether slavery expanded or not made little difference in their lives. They fought and died to preserve the wealth of their feudal oligarchs and for a system that modern economic analysis shows was hurting the average White southerner: if labor was free and slaves could fulfill needs for craftwork, there was little need to pay for White workers and little need for a middle class of entrepreneurs. Other than some farm owners, there was not much of a middle class in the South.
The average White southerner fought and died for a struggle that was contrary to their true self-interest. The question is why? There were a few reasons. They had been trained to obedience by generations of quasi-feudalism. Also, there is the regional chauvinism one always finds among the poorly educated especially - a kind of tribal instinct. I think the main reason, though, was that as long as there were oppressed Black people around, southern losers could tell themselves that as sad as they were, at least they weren't black. This seems to be the force that continues to drive cowardly southern bigots today. Of course, as the freed slave moved North, we saw the same effects and results on Northern losers, and see it still today.
Revisionist bigots like to point to other disputes that did indeed exist. For example, the South threatened several times to secede over tariffs that protected northern industries but made everything more expensive for southerners. When Calhoun threatened to secede over tariffs, Jackson said he would hang the first "nullifier" he could find from the first tree he could find. (Nullifiers believed states had the right to "nullify" federal laws). Southern threats of secession fizzled. Of course, everybody has heard poorly educated apologists for Southern treason squawk, "It was about STATES' RIGHTS!" It works on those who lack the critical thinking skills to ask, "What rights?" There was only one. America's Third World had bitched since our creation about one thing or another. There was only ONE reason they were willing to fight for, though: the demand that slavery be allowed everywhere.

 

[Robert W]

Innocent until proven guilty.

Trials do not presume guilty. Trials presume innocence. It is up to a prosecutor to change the minds of the jury. Duke you answered IM2 very well.

 

[otto105]

‘Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley, who is facing backlash over her response to a question about the Civil War at a New Hampshire campaign event, alleged without evidence Thursday that that the questioner was potentially a Democratic "plant."’

Nikki Haley alleged she was set up by Democratic 'plant' after being asked what caused the Civil War

The former governor alleged the question that landed her in hot water this week regarding the cause of the Civil War was the work of Democrats.

www.usatoday.com

It was a perfectly legitimate question to ask Haley, regardless of the politics of the person asking the question.

It’s also telling that Haley would perceive acknowledging the fact that the South started the war to preserve slavery as a political ‘gotcha.’

Wow, another republic pol and their profile in courage.

 

[IM2]

Which part is dishonest?

All of it.

 

[IM2]

Innocent until proven guilty.

You don't say that about Biden, so we will apply the same to trump.

 

[Wobbly]

Nikki Haley is a very smart, well-educated woman. The reason she answered the Civil War question the way she did is because she was afraid of offending the bigot base of what our Republican Party has become. It is part of her long record of testing the direction of the wind before deciding what she stands for. Remember, this is the same woman who had the stars and bars removed from the South Carolina, when that seemed to be the way the wind was blowing.

 

[DukeU]

All of it

AAaawwww.

 

[DukeU]

You don't say that about Biden, so we will apply the same to trump.

You can say anything you wish.

 

[Wobbly]

All of this, of course, is how we got the true Confederate Battle Flag:

Long may she wave.

 

[DukeU]

Nikki Haley is a very smart, well-educated woman. The reason she answered the Civil War question the way she did is because she was afraid of offending the bigot base of what our Republican Party has become. It is part of her long record of testing the direction of the wind before deciding what she stands for. Remember, this is the same woman who had the stars and bars removed from the South Carolina, when that seemed to be the way the wind was blowing.

Turns out she offended the bigot base on the left by not caving with a woke answer.

 

[SavannahMann]

So you believe the audience had some ignorant people asking her questions??? That is how I size it up. Slavery has died out 155 years ago. It seems stupid to dwell on slavery.

It was going to come up. Especially since the Confederate Flag was finally taken down when Nikki was Governor.

For the Republicans, the radical conservatives anyway. That was giving in to ANTIFA and BLM. They deny that the Civil War was over Slavery. And they won’t hear anything else. So they’re already angry at Nikki for removing the flag.

Nikki fumbled the answer. And she can recover from it. Of the candidates running, she would be my first choice.

 

[SavannahMann]

Why is this relevant to Nikki?

It is the answer to the question she was asked.

 

[IM2]

Nikki Haley is a very smart, well-educated woman. The reason she answered the Civil War question the way she did is because she was afraid of offending the bigot base of what our Republican Party has become. It is part of her long record of testing the direction of the wind before deciding what she stands for. Remember, this is the same woman who had the stars and bars removed from the South Carolina, when that seemed to be the way the wind was blowing.

It took the murder of 9 people for her to do that after years of people petitioning her and governors before her.

 

[IM2]

Turns out she offended the bigot base on the left by not caving with a woke answer.

So now the correct answer is woke.

 

[Wobbly]

And, contrary to what some Googler working on his GED said earlier here, "preserving the union" was the reason the North fought, I say Balderdash! It was probably Lincoln's highest priority, but the Northern population was more motivated by fighting against slavery. This was partly the result of the portrayal of slavery in the very popular Uncle Tom's Cabin. The biggest spark, however, was the Dred Scott decision. In deciding that Scott was property and not a person, (a legally proper decision, according to how our Constitution dealt with our original sin at the time), the Court was also saying there was no place for a slave to run and find freedom. Essentially, the Court had ruled that slavery was legal everywhere. The North was not going to put up with that. Fighting slavery became THE reason for them.
I mean, think about it. Preserve the Union? Bullshit. Who the hell would want Alabama or Mississippi? Wacko Floriduh? C'mon.