No Special Master As DOJ Drops Bombshell 40 Page Ruling Obstruction By Trump Team

[Deplorable Yankee]

 

[HaShev]

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[Indeependent]

LOL

That's exactly what they did and rightards haven't stopped crying about it since.

Thanks for proving you don't read every post.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

He declassified them... and was cooperating with retuning them... you can't just put government documents in a envelope and drop it in the mail...
This is falling apart by the hour.... the FBI releases a gratuitous photo like this tells me they are grasping at straws...

I do agree, Trump's story is falling apart by the second, it is ever changing

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

It has the virtue of being true. No one is seriously suggesting otherwise.

Those are just cover sheets. Literally anyone with a printer can print one off the internet.

I screenshotted this one...lol

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Meanwhile Chicago and every other Democrat stronghold is full of chaos and murder without any accountability or use of force being used to STOP THEM.

 

[Marener]

So let’s say Trump had classified documents in his desk at Mar-a -Lago that while he says he declassified he wasn’t allowed to.

Trump’s residence is guarded by Secret Service and I imagine anyone who goes into Trump’s office to clean is escorted. Perhaps the Secret Service officers might read the data.

Hillary’s classified email was on an unauthorized and improperly secured server where a computer savvy high school kid could have hacked it. Governments all ove the world probably accessed that server and not only had insight on what Hillary thought and was involved in but also access to highly classified data,

https://www.newsmax.com/Hirsen/hillary-hackers-homeland-security/2016/08/01/id/741513/

***snip***

When FBI Director James Comey stated that his investigators had no “direct evidence” that Hillary’s email account had been “successfully hacked,” computer experts understood that Hillary’s server had most likely been breached, but by hackers much too sophisticated to leave behind traces of evidence.

Comey also confirmed that Hillary had used her private email while she was in the territory of what the director referred to as “sophisticated adversaries.”

The New York Times provided a quote from former government cyber-security expert James Lewis, which read, “If she [Hillary] used it [mobile device] in Russia or China, they almost certainly picked it up.”

Other cyber-intrusions about which the Associated Press reported indicate that hackers had attempted to gain unauthorized access to Hillary’s server, and they did so without relying on email messages.

Romanian computer hacker Marcel Lazăr Lehel, a.k.a., Guccifer, told Fox News that he hacked Hillary’s server, as did at least 10 others.

A hack of Hillary’s private server could potentially yield a harvest of email addresses of individuals with whom the former secretary of state had corresponded. The said hackers could then send “spear phishing” emails to any or all of the individuals on the procured list, emails that could contain embedded programs with the capacity to infiltrate recipients’ computers, systems, networks, and the like.

The point you’re bringing up is entirely irrelevant.

It makes no difference whatsoever if Trump had secret service or not. Trump had no authorization to possess those documents.

 

[Marener]

Those are just cover sheets. Literally anyone with a printer can print one off the internet.

I screenshotted this one...lolView attachment 689955

Is that the explanation? That Trump just printed them off for funsies?

Get real guys.

 

[Care4all]

Declassifies all the Russia/Hillary files , which He said He would do, which would be embarrassing for your heroes at DOJ/FBI.......and you wonder about all this?

duh Del, he didn't need to steal records to reclassify them!

if he wanted to declassify them, he merely needed to do so when President, and procedures following his written command to declassify the investigational material would be put in place to declassify the govt records, then anyone can request the information from the govt via a FOIA request.

stealing them to do such, is simply ridiculous....

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Is that the explanation? That Trump just printed them off for funsies?

Get real guys.

There have been a good 15 or so excuses for Trump, they have even now started to recycle them

 

[Marener]

There have been a good 15 or so excuses for Trump, they have even now started to recycle them

They’re behind Trump who shockingly admitted they were his.

 

[Care4all]

He declassified them... and was cooperating with retuning them... you can't just put government documents in a envelope and drop it in the mail...
This is falling apart by the hour.... the FBI releases a gratuitous photo like this tells me they are grasping at straws...

it was an evidence photo, with a ruler in lower part to scale the size of items retrieved in the search, WHICH IS DONE IN ALL SEARCHES.....

I almost choked from laughing while watching Hannity and f ox hosts claiming the photo was for show, or Trump claiming that he would never have them on the floor spread out like that, for guests to see....

Well duh, no one put them on the ground to make you look untidy Donald.... They are evidence photos, done with all search warrants.

 

[citygator]

Here is the current Republican talking point torn down in an instant.

 

[citygator]

Always a tweet for that..

 

[skews13]

Yes, it is one of my favorite laws! Unfortunately, it is the DOJ/FBI's second least favorite, with the 4th amendment being their all-time most hated. I Know it and I and can prove it:

That's what the law says, alright. Yep, sure does.

I started to prove the FBI/DOJ's hatred of the Freedom of Information Act, by challenging you to request a copy of the de-classified parts of Operation Crossfire Hurricane. But I didn't want you to do that, because I would hate for you to have FBI agents showing up at your house, your job.

I wondered if perchance, someone had already made that request. Someone has:

From Just the News:

The conservative watchdog Judicial Watch has sued the Justice Department to compel the release of “smoking gun” documents former President Donald Trump declassified and ordered release that detail misconduct in the FBI’s discredited Russia collusion investigation.

The Freedom of Information Act lawsuit was filed quietly in federal court on Aug. 1 and announced Monday by Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

Judicial Watch sues DOJ to release Trump-declassified ‘smoking gun’ documents from Russia probe - Judicial Watch

From Just the News: The conservative watchdog Judicial Watch has sued the Justice Department to compel the release of “smoking gun” documents former President Donald Trump declassified and ordered release that detail misconduct in the FBI’s discredited Russia collusion investigation. The Freedom...

www.judicialwatch.org

The materials in the binder spoken of in this memorandum from President Trump to the Attorney General are declassified by law, and even in writing though that was not required.

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Memorandum on Declassification of Certain Materials Related to the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation – The White House

trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov

That date of the lawsuit was one week before the raid. Not a coincidence. That lawsuit meant that the walls were closing in on he DOJ/FBI. They are about to be ordered to release the Crossfire Hurricane documents, and those documents are known to be declassified. Clearly, they are terrified to release them.

All they had to do was their usual redaction down to nothing usable job on the binder. The only thing standing between them and again hiding the truth from the American people: Trump's copy of the declassified binder.

So, they went and took it



First of all, Marener, I could take the lib-Dem way out and refuse to answer a hypothetical or to recognize the validity of an analogy by saying "apples and oranges!" I won't, so I hope in the future that you will not either.

No judge would release Reffitt after having been convicted and sentenced because Trump says he had pardoned him earlier. But in that case, a jury or judge has ruled after due process and a fair trial (presumably). Reffitt had presumption of innocence, but the government but the government over-came that presumption. Trump has not been found guilty of anything, so the presumption of innocence still applies. The government would have to prove that Trump did not declassify documents that he gave a clear indication were declassified by taking them out of the White House.

Besides, you admitted upstream that they were de-classified. Put that in all caps if I remember correctly.


That is good news, and it isn't redacted, which is great news. Of course, since Trump's copy would have been among the documents they took in the raid, we won't have anything real to compare what they showed us.

I guess Trump should have just cut all the classification markings off of the declassified documents and sent the cut off pieces to the DOJ in response to that subpoena.

Regardless, the FBI still violated the Clinton Doctrines, of which one of the main tenets is that

When served a subpoena, a senior U.S. political figure may simply reject the subpoena without having a search warrant served to take every document the FBI can find from their home.

Clinton lawyer rejects subpoena for current server security details

Clinton's attorney says a subpoena to Florida-based computer security company SECNAP went too far.

www.politico.com

Clinton lawyer rejects subpoena for current server security details​

By JOSH GERSTEIN

09/23/2016 10:12 PM EDT
A lawyer for Hillary Clinton told a House committee Friday the panel won't be receiving some information it subpoenaed about security arrangements for Clinton's server.



She had her tens of thousands of classified documents on a server that was less secure than gmail, so yes. That was different from declassified paper documents being kept in the home of a man with the protection of the Secret Service and a Billionaire's home security staff and equipment.

How would you prove that Trump intended something criminal by declassifying documents and taking them home? Sounds like he was trying to help the DOJ/FBI comply with the FOIA.

Remember another important tenet of the Hillary Doctrine:

Intent is difficult to prove, so a senior U.S. political figure is a person that no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute.


The FBI/DOJ never cites "laws," when they refuse to provide information. No, they flout the law and claim "ongoing investigation," not "privacy."

But they must, and will follow the third tenet of the Hillary Doctrine:

If we've never prosecuted a senior politician for storing classified documents in an unauthorized way, we cannot do it now.

DOH! If they had prosecuted Hillary, they could now prosecute Trump!

Be sure to present that at the trial. Be sure to let us know how that works out for you.

 

[Seymour Flops]

That judge will almost certainly appoint the requested special master. The desperation with which the DOJ/FBI/DNC is trying to avoid one only shows how much one is needed.

 

[dblack]

There have been a good 15 or so excuses for Trump, they have even now started to recycle them

It's like none of these people have ever been parents.

 

[skews13]

That judge will almost certainly appoint the requested special master. The desperation with which the DOJ/FBI/DNC is trying to avoid one only shows how much one is needed.

Doesn’t matter. The DOJ doesn’t have to comply with the order. The judge has no authority to order review of classified material, she isn’t cleared to see, or appoint anyone not cleared by NSA.

And no Florida law enforcement agency is going arrest anyone for not complying.

You’re in way over your head son.

 

[Delldude]

I don't have to wonder at all. trump has finally cooked his goose. This time not with his mouth as usual, but by his criminal actions.

Meh......once again, a hugeTDS induced Trump hardon.....LOL

I've seen this movie before.

 

[Delldude]

Doesn’t matter. The DOJ doesn’t have to comply with the order. The judge has no authority to order review of classified material, she isn’t cleared to see, or appoint anyone not cleared by NSA.

And no Florida law enforcement agency is going arrest anyone for not complying.

You’re in way over your head son.

DOJ will or reveal they are actually a kangaroo court. She isn't the special master, she will appoint someone with qualifications. No biggy.