No, The Taliban Did Not Seize $83 Billion Of U.S. Weapons

That's true, but its misleading.

Sure, the Taliban didn't take the whole $83 Billion in weapons.

The Taliban's allies including Al Qaeda , the Islamic States, Hamas, etc., all got their share of the bounty.

All of the weapons weren't in one place, and some of the $83 Billion worth haven't been discovered yet, and might end up in the hands of good guys operating over there like Erik Prince.
Got anything to support that hypothesis of amateur proportion or will you just reiterate echo chamber dog whistles?
 
Semantics? Really? You people are disgusting.

U.S.-made weapons seized by Taliban could lead to regional arms bazaar​


It’s unclear to U.S. officials how much equipment the Taliban has seized and how much sits unattended on bases and small combat outposts across the country.



Here are the top 10 military-grade weapons seized by the Taliban and what they are capable of doing in the battlefield:

1. A-29 Super Tucano: A light attack aircraft, it is estimated to cost around $20 and 30 million, a relatively low price compared to other same-level fighter aircraft, according to the American defence contractor, Sierra Nevada Corporation. It can carry a wide scale of weapons and is designed for riot controlling, close air support and reconnaissance missions in low-hazard environments. At least one Super Tucano was seized in Afghanistan's Mazar-i-Sharif International Airport.

2. UH-60 Black Hawk: It is a military transport and attack helicopter. One of the most expensive helicopters on the market with a $5.9 million cost, its advanced system facilitates pilots to identify static targets with its firing rifles and laser-designated missiles. It can measure the required range for pilots to hit targets during day and night operations with sharp accuracy even from high distances. Black Hawk was captured soon after Kandhar fell on August 12. Kandhar is Afghanistan's second-biggest city, where the US had one of its main bases containing substantial military equipment.

3. ScanEagle mini military drone: An unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) that fulfils the trinity of intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) missions during exclusive service, escort operations while obligated to protect secure data and collect swift wireless voice and video evidence. The UAV can give a bird's-eye view for more than 24 hours at a rapid speed. Each system costs about $3.2 million.

5. Mine-resistant vehicles (MRAPs): These are armoured, all-terrain vehicles that provide effective protection against land mines and ambushes and cost between $500,000-$1,000,000. The MRAPs can furnish safe shipments even in intense conflict areas and are designed to protect personnel and passengers from explosive roadside bombs.

6. M1151 Humvee: It is an upgraded armament carrier with more than a price of $220,000 per vehicle and was created to protect passengers with exceptional armours, allowing it to function more like a lifeguard. In 2017, the US had supplied a stock of 4,700 Humvees to Afghanistan. Most of them, as per various media reports, are now in the hands of the Taliban.

7. M24 Sniper Weapon System: Referred to as a system, its accessories and attachments help the weapon transform into an eagle eye sniper rifle. M24 is known for its simplicity and reliability and provides superior accuracy by its cost and versatility

8. M18 assault weapon: It is a single-shot rifle that can shoot at a tank and personnel with high accuracy. This recoilless rifle is capable of firing artillery-type bullets more effectively than anti-tank weapons.
The Taliban has seized thousands of such assault rifles.

9. M4 Carbine:
It is a gas-operated weapon with a $700 average cost and has a multi-firing system. The system allows the rifle to be equipped with a laser, grenade launcher, night vision, flashlight, laser mark and even a tiny shotgun that bestows extra lethality.
The US left thousands of them behind and the Taliban happily added them to their inventory.

10. 40 mm high explosive grenade:
Designed for grenade launcher ammunition, the weapon consists of high-velocity shells. 'An AGL (Automatic Grenade Launcher) with a high velocity 40mm gun gets you an effective range of around two kilometres' says defence expert Helge Stadheim, explaining the functionality of 40mm grenades. (Cost: $400 to $500 per cartridge)

They won't get a warranty like when you by from the US directly and with that purchase comes support....The Taliban can only offer the basis of what they inherited....Not a good value....

The United States remains the largest arms exporter, increasing its global share of arms exports from 32 to 37 per cent between 2011–15 and 2016–20. The USA supplied major arms to 96 states in 2016–20, far more than any other supplier. Almost half (47 per cent) of US arms transfers went to the Middle East.

Mar 15, 2021
 
No, the USA SPENT about 82-83 billion in total in Afghanistan trying to train an Afghan Army. They spent about 28 billion on military gear, weapons, vehicles and hardware.


I have no doubt their training didn't go well due to beurocracy and corruption. We pulled the rug out too soon. Probably both administrations should have considered what would happen with all that equipment left behind.

 
Sophisticated weapons will not last long in the hands of the Taliban
Aircraft require extensive maintenance by trained mechanics and a steady supply of spares
Aircraft, vehicles, weapons systems, communications equipment will all be useless within months

Until China sends their people over to help them.
 
I have no doubt their training didn't go well due to beurocracy and corruption. We pulled the rug out too soon. Probably both administrations should have considered what would happen with all that equipment left behind.

As I've said, you pull out in phases, you pull out a little putting the military in charge and stay there as training wheels. If that goes well, you pull out a lot and put the military in TOTAL charge, and observe the situation as a safety net. If THAT goes well, then you pull out completely knowing that what you left behind is working and stable.
 
Sophisticated weapons will not last long in the hands of the Taliban
Aircraft require extensive maintenance by trained mechanics and a steady supply of spares
Aircraft, vehicles, weapons systems, communications equipment will all be useless within months
The Taliban started this war with Soviet era equipment. As with most third world countries, they are highly skilled at keeping things going. Often by cannibalizing parts or modifying what's needed. They have acquired enough equipment that even cannibalizing a fraction of it will keep the majority running for years, if not decades.
 
I had a feeling all that right wing fake outrage about the weapons left in Afghanistan was mostly a bunch of garbage.

Fact check puts the truth to the situation.

Oh please. Even the left leaning MSM have been reporting this. Maybe the figure isn't 83 b's. But, you are kind of right that the Taliban did not seize these things. The Biden administration gave the Taliban these things as gifts and handed over the keys. And now:

National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan says the US may deliver aid & economic assistance directly to the Taliban​

 
As I've said, you pull out in phases, you pull out a little putting the military in charge and stay there as training wheels. If that goes well, you pull out a lot and put the military in TOTAL charge, and observe the situation as a safety net. If THAT goes well, then you pull out completely knowing that what you left behind is working and stable.


Agreed. There was too much at risk and we can now see the cost. Except for those who are blind.
 
Fact Check...an idiot's guide to research.

Take out idiot's and what do you get, research.

I didn't post the article for the right wingers here.

I posted it for the intelligent people who want honest facts.

I know I can fill a message box with links to facts all day long. The far right will never even read it much less comprehend it.

All they will do is their usual fake news or personally attack me.

It's old and boring.

There are many intelligent people on this board and they might like to see the fact check.
 
Sophisticated weapons will not last long in the hands of the Taliban
Aircraft require extensive maintenance by trained mechanics and a steady supply of spares
Aircraft, vehicles, weapons systems, communications equipment will all be useless within months


Yes and those who read the article will read that the taliban has no pilots to fly those planes. On top of that, the Afghani pilots we trained were mostly murdered by the taliban in their war.

That's on top of a lot of it is already rendered useless. Basically we did what we always do, leave our trash behind for someone else to clean up.

And it wasn't anywhere near 83 billion dollars worth of weapons.

At best it was 24 billion and as the article says, most of it is worthless or the taliban don't have people who know how to use it.
 

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