No Wonder Libs Are Upset - The Surge Is Working

[red states rule]

I am waiting for Reid and Pelosi to hold a ceremony at Ground Zero to celebrate their Surrender At All Costs bill.

While they are there, they can have Peanut Carter hand out peanuts to the crowd in thanks for their millions of dollars of pork for peanut storage

 

[Bullypulpit]

Hi POLLY, (want a cracker?),,,,

Your insults are getting feebler...How much longer before you start resorting to armpit farts for responses, although such doesn't translate well to written word.

CLINTON, perjurer, impeached.

How have I lied in this matter? You and your fellow travelers have an almost pathological need to blame Goatboy for everything. The truth is that America is in the straights it is in because of the policies of this Administration over the last six years. An Administration which y'all have supported without question. Why are you so unhappy then? Why try to put the blame elsewhere?

I put this really simple for you so your brain doesnt have to try and multitask.

The issue has been adressed over and over and over again. Dont you have anything new? We have already proven the logical fallacy of pointing out where saddam got his WMD's.
You are a moron for saying that its not ok to disarm someone simply because you may have been the person to arm them in the firstplace.
So, if saddam had gotten his WMD's from Russia, then it would be ok for us to disarm him, but since he got them from us, we have to stand aside and let him use them at will. WHAT a fucking moronic logic.

You really need to review your history. Saddam's ability to produce NBC weapons was shut down by Gulf War I and, contrary to claims by the Bush Lite Administration, was never successfully reconstituted. Now, please be so kind as to submit a formal proof of the "logical fallacy" you claimed above. But you can't since the fallacy you claim is no more than that..An empty claim.

As for the use of chemical weapons on his own people, our government , as well as the rest of the world ignored that act of barbarism, as it has ignored others in other nations since, much to our collective shame. Saddam more than demonstrated that he didn't need WMD's to use against his own people in his slaughter of ethnic Arabs in southern Iraq at the end of Gulf War I...You remember the ones Poppy Bush told to revolt against Saddam's rule and then left them swinging in the breeze.

Your historical and grammatical errors aside, why don't you try rational discussion instead of hurling childish epithets...Or are you just trolling?

 

[red states rule]

Was your guy Kerry lying about Saddam and WMD's?


“Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime … He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction… So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real.”
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

 

[red states rule]

excuse me...but I really have yet to read anyone's reasonable justification why AMERICAN boys have to die to bring safety OR security to a bunch or arabs who don't particularly give a shit about US one way or the other.

And listen sister.... if you can't refute it, don't claim you can....

Rush sumed it up perfectly



Democrat Senate Majority Leader Dingy Harry Reid has finally abandoned all the pretense. He has directly threatened to leave our troops in Iraq without the money they need to complete their mission.

Reid's threat was described by Beltway pundits as a sign of "increasing frustration," but the truth is more insidious. Democrats are attacking the heart of presidential power because Commander-in-Chief George W. Bush is not caving in to Democrat demands that we surrender, that we quit -- that we give up. The Democrats' pro-defeat policy would allow Islamic extremists to create a terrorist state in the heart of the Middle East -- while Iran is nuking up.

Now, it's one thing to pander to your domestic political base, but this isn't pandering. I mean, this isn't even appeasing. This is telling the world that the Democrat party is willing to side with America's enemies. They actually seek defeat in a war by stripping our military of the resources to win that war -- in hopes of sustaining their own political power.

The long-term strategic risks to this nation don't matter a hill of beans to Senator Reid and his people. If Democrats succeed, they validate the strategery Osama bin Laden outlined before 9/11. If Democrats succeed, every enemy of this nation will view our defeat as an opening. The Democrat plan is nothing more than a mass death warrant for Americans.

So what Democrats have unmasked with this threat is not a political gamesmanship or move; it is their own blatant disregard for the security -- and survival -- of the United States. They just don't care, apparently.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_040307/content/01125101.member.html

 

[red states rule]

what has been refuted? That Saddam kept sunnis and shiites from slaughtering one another? that Iran has seen its stock rise since our invasion? that AQ is now in Iraq and wasn't before? none of that has EVER been refuted.

ABC Highlights Safety Improvements in Baghdad
Posted by Brad Wilmouth on April 3, 2007 - 23:05.
Tuesday's World News with Charles Gibson highlighted signs of improvement in parts of Baghdad in the aftermath of the U.S. troop surge. ABC's Gibson introduced the story relaying that correspondent Terry McCarthy, after traveling to several Baghdad neighborhoods, "has found definite improvement." Among other developments, McCarthy reported on families feeling safe enough to take their children to the city's largest amusement park: "People feel safe to bring their kids here and have fun on a Friday afternoon. For us, it's really great to see people in Baghdad having fun."

McCarthy introduced his story recounting that although there are still daily bombings in Baghdad, "a small area of relative calm is starting to grow," relaying his visit to several neighborhoods where residents reported that "life is slowly coming back to normal." (Transcript follows)

Among other areas, McCarthy discussed the once-infamous Haifa Street that is no longer as dangerous as it once was, where men at a tea shop asked McCarthy's crew to film them "to show things are getting better." After mentioning positive developments in other neighborhoods, the ABC correspondent pointed out the increased number of families visiting the amusement park in the Zawra area. McCarthy: "People feel safe to bring their kids here and have fun on a Friday afternoon. For us, it's really great to see people in Baghdad having fun." After wondering if the relative safety would continue, he concluded: "For the time being, though, people here are happy to enjoy a life that looks almost normal."

Below is a complete transcript of the story from the Tuesday April 3 World News with Charles Gibson:

Charles Gibson: "Meanwhile, Iraq's government announced today that the security situation in Baghdad has improved in recent weeks -- enough that the city's curfew can be relaxed. Until now, the curfew has been 8 PM till 5 AM. Now, Baghdad residents will be allowed on the street until 10 PM. ABC's Terry McCarthy has been checking out conditions in some of the city's neighborhoods, and has found definite improvement."

Terry McCarthy: "Children have come out to play again. Shoppers are back in markets. A few devout souls even venture past the barbed wire to pray. Baghdad is still rocked by car bombs every day. But right in the center of the city, a small area of relative calm is starting to grow, thanks to stepped up U.S. patrols and increased Iraqi checkpoints. Nowhere is safe for westerners to linger, but over the past week we visited five different neighborhoods where the locals told us life is slowly coming back to normal. We started in what used to be one of the most dangerous parts of the city. This is Haifa Street, otherwise known as 'Sniper Street,' until two months ago a major battleground between U.S. troops and insurgents. Today, people who live on Haifa Street tell us it's quiet, or at least quiet enough for them to venture back out onto the street. At a tea shop, these men actually asked us to film them to show things are getting better. In Babil, we stopped for ice cream -- 20 cents a scoop. The owner here, Mohammed Hassan, tells us security is improving in this part of Baghdad just in time for the summer, which is, of course, when they make most of their money. Hussein Jihad has a clothing store in Karada. 'When people heard that it was safe,' says Hussein, 'they started coming out and spending money again.' We found a mosque in Zayouna that had been fire-bombed. Now, open for prayer. And in Zawra, Baghdad's biggest amusement park is running again. People feel safe to bring their kids here and have fun on a Friday afternoon. For us, it's really great to see people in Baghdad having fun. 'It's safe here,' says 12-year-old Abdullah. 'There used to be some bullets, but not anymore.' Nobody knows if this small safe zone will expand or get swallowed up again by violence. For the time being, though, people here are happy to enjoy a life that looks almost normal. Terry McCarthy, ABC News, Baghdad."

http://newsbusters.org/node/11805

 

[red states rule]

Baghdad curfew eased as surge scores successes
By Sharon Behn
THE WASHINGTON TIMES



BAGHDAD -- American and Iraqi soldiers yesterday killed six terrorists and captured another 41 insurgents and death-squad suspects in operations in Baghdad and outside Fallujah, military officials said.
The raids were part of the ongoing enormous effort by U.S. and Iraqi security forces to break the backs of the various armed groups warring in Iraq. The Iraqi government cited the success of that operation yesterday in announcing that the nightly curfew will be pushed back by two hours.
In Baghdad, a U.S. Stryker battalion and an Iraqi battalion fanned out in east Mansour, an area of the city where Shi'ite death squads have been forcing Sunni families out of their homes and replacing them with followers of Muqtada al-Sadr's radical militia.
Directed by Iraqi and American intelligence sources, the soldiers of the 2nd Battalion, 3rd Infantry Regiment of the Stryker Brigade Combat Team raided houses overnight, capturing nine members of what they said was a known death-squad cell.
"We think they are responsible for the deaths of 22 Sunnis in this area, as well as [rocket-propelled grenade] and small-arms attacks," said an intelligence officer involved in the operation who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
In separate operations, coalition forces killed six al Qaeda in Iraq terrorists and captured 13 other "facilitators" yesterday morning south of Fallujah and in al Qaim, on the border with Syria, the U.S. military said.
The men arrested in Baghdad were swiftly flex-cuffed, blindfolded and hauled off to one of the city's detention centers, where they sat with their backs against a wall waiting to be screened by U.S. medical personnel.
One man came in whimpering and limping on the arms of two American soldiers, his arm and leg bandaged after trying to escape the raid by jumping over several walls. Altogether, 28 detainees were brought into the holding center from raids across Baghdad.
The raids were part of the stepped-up U.S. security presence in Baghdad, but the significance is hard to judge. Although the military actions yesterday interrupted one death squad, the intelligence officer said, the long-term impact could be determined only by "going back to the neighbors and asking them if they feel safer now."
Iraqis say several neighborhoods have improved since the security plan went into operation almost eight weeks ago, an appraisal reflected in pushing back the start of the nightly curfew to 10 p.m.
Brig. Gen. Qassim al-Moussawi, the spokesman for the Baghdad security operation, said the decision was made "because the security situation has improved and people needed more time to go shopping."
However, residents of other neighborhoods say they are seeing a return to sectarian executions
A father of two girls said he was moving out of his area after he and his family listened from their house as a teenage neighbor pleaded in the street for a Shi'ite death squad to spare his father's life. They killed him anyway.
"The Shi'ite militia are making trouble," said Hassan, who asked that his full name not be used. "They are idiots, stupid." After almost four years of war and a week of finding corpses outside his door, Hassan said, he has to move.
American forces, such as the Stryker brigades operating across the capital and in Diyala province, are working 12- to 14-hour days to clear both Sunni and Shi'ite neighborhoods block by block and house by house.
They also are trying to work side by side with the Iraqi army and police in order for them to establish trust among the local population. Many Iraqis feel the Iraqi forces are corrupt and part of the death squads.
"I myself never trust any Iraqi police and army," said a young woman called Jenan, whose pregnant sister was killed in a terrorist bombing.
Staff Sgt. Brian Long, 31, a fire support specialist for Alpha Company, 2nd Battalion, 3rd Infantry Regiment with the Stryker Brigade Combat Team, said it was still "too early to tell if the surge is working."
He thinks progress has been made. "Even coming to an agreement to not kill each other is a step in a positive direction; it has happened in some neighborhoods," he said.
Layla, a Kurdish woman who lives in Baghdad, said shops were beginning to reopen on the shell-pocked main street of her neighborhood, which once bustled with juice stands, coffee shops, hamburger restaurants and small kitchenware stores.
"They attacked [the Zayoona neighborhood] several times in the last three or four months, but now people feel safe enough to open their stores," she said.
It is "not exactly" safe to go to the market, she said. "You don't know who is going to kill you, or kidnap you."
While most Iraqis are withholding judgment on the security surge, a cross-section of women and men said the U.S. military was the only thing preventing complete chaos.
"If they retreat and leave everything to the Iraqis, at that time the civil war in Iraq will start," Hassan said.

http://washingtontimes.com/world/20070404-121156-4055r.htm

 

[maineman]

one more time:

RSR: let's review, shall we?

Here is what I said:

"I posted the link that shows the american casualty figures....yours are inaccurate...

In january, we lost 83 Americans.
In february, we lost 80 Americans
In march, we lost 81 Americans

and we have already lost 5 Americans today, the first of April

Please explain how you get a decrease of "60%" from those figures?

and here is your reply:


http://icasualties.org/oif/



Let me ask again: since I got my numbers from that very website, can you please post those numbers from that site that would prove your allegation that the surge has caused a 60% reduction in US casualties???? The way I look at it, we are holding steady on our casualty rate over the last three months, and I also see that our casualty rates for the last six months are nearly 40% HIGHER than they were the six months preceding that. Please explain IN YOUR OWN WORDS how the surge is working given those figures

 

[maineman]

Please note all the cut and paste crap that red states retch has posted rather than answer my question... and then, look back to post #159 of this thread where I said:

somehow, I imagine that RSR will avoid answering those very simple questions by either accusing me of loving terrorists, or cutting and pasting something from newsbusters that says the surge is working...

and never bother to address why he posted the site about Iraq War casualties when it does not provide any verification of his claim.

I think the record will show I called this one pretty accurately!

 

[red states rule]

Please note all the cut and paste crap that red states retch has posted rather than answer my question... and then, look back to post #159 of this thread where I said:



I think the record will show I called this one pretty accurately!

I have letting you dig your hole deeper. I know libs are happy with every death the US military takes in this war. They think they will gain mor epower over the dead bodies of US troops

However, the truth does get out in time


BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraq's military Wednesday reported significant reduction in violence a month after launching a coalition crackdown in the war-racked capital.

The numbers of deadly attacks, assassination attempts, bombings, mortar strikes and kidnappings have dropped since the operation's mid-February launch, said Iraqi Brig. Gen. Qassim Atta.

The number of civilians killed in Baghdad in the past four weeks was 265, compared with 1,440 killings from mid-January to mid-February, said Atta, a spokesman for the operation. (Effects of crackdown)

Atta also reported that 94 terrorists were killed in the February-March period, compared with 19 in the January-February time frame.

Other figures released by Atta included:


102 roadside bombings in the February-March period; 163 in the January-February period;


36 car bombs in February-March; 56 in January-February


109 mortar attacks in February-March; 204 in January-February


22 assassination incidents in February-March; 519 in January-February


10 kidnapping incidents in February-March; 98 in January-February

Atta offered the statistics as key indications that the security crackdown is bearing fruit.

The operation, known in Arabic as Fardh Al-Qanoon, involves about 80,000 U.S. and Iraqi security forces across the capital, while about two dozen joint security stations have been set up in neighborhoods throughout the city, according to the U.S. military.

At a separate news conference Wednesday, U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said the security plan is showing "positive" signs of progress. U.S. military leaders expect to see a "discernible difference" in and around the city by a "fall time frame," Caldwell said.

"If the high-profile car bombs can be stopped or brought down to a much lower level, we'll just see an incredible difference in the city overall," Caldwell said. "The murders and executions have come down by over 50 percent."

Caldwell said two of five new brigades of American troops are in place conducting operations, and a third brigade is on the way.

Day's Iraqi death toll: At least 12
The updates came as authorities reported continued violence across Iraq on Wednesday.

The attacks included a bombing at an outdoor market in Tuz Khurmatu that killed four people and wounded 10 others, according to a Salaheddin police official. Tuz Khurmatu, a predominantly Turkmen town, is in northeastern Salaheddin province -- north of Baghdad.

In Diwaniya, insurgents Wednesday dragged three Iraqi policemen and shot them. Two of them were killed and one was wounded. Police found the bodies and the injured officer near a canal. Diwaniya is the Shiite provincial capital of the southern Iraqi province of Qadisiya.

In western Baghdad's Yarmouk neighborhood, a suicide car bomb detonated near a police checkpoint, killing two civilians and wounding four others Wednesday.

Gunmen opened fire on a car in the northern Baghdad neighborhood of Adhamiya, a Sunni district. The deputy head of Adhamiya's city council and his three guards were killed.

And on Tuesday, 14 bullet-riddled bodies were found dumped across the capital, police said. The thousands of corpses found dumped in Baghdad over the last year are thought to be people killed in sectarian violence.

U.S.: We're tracking al-Sadr
Reduced violence in Baghdad's Sadr City neighborhood, Caldwell said, may be linked to the absence of anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, who he said was located in neighboring Iran "as of 24 hours ago."

Also contributing to relative quiet in Sadr City, Caldwell said, is cooperation between neighborhood officials and Iraqi authorities. Caldwell said not one single incident was reported during U.S. and Iraqi military clearing operations in the sprawling district.

Twenty percent of the densely populated neighborhood has been cleared so far, Caldwell said, which means that area has been swept of insurgents and weaponry.

Despite the positive signs, Caldwell said Wednesday the U.S. military remains concerned about Iraq's Shiite Mehdi militia, which is loyal to al-Sadr.

Coalition forces have detained about 700 militia members in the past few months, he said.

The anti-American Shiite cleric represents a "very significant part" of Iraq's political machinery, according to Caldwell.

"We are in fact tracking his whereabouts," Caldwell said.

Members of al-Sadr's militia are thought to be involved in sectarian violence, and the security crackdown has been targeting such armed Shiite groups.

The cleric reportedly fled to predominantly Shiite Iran about the time U.S. and Iraqi forces launched the Baghdad crackdown.

Al-Sadr has been supportive of the government of Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and helped al-Maliki's rise to power in 2006.

Al-Maliki has said that no lawbreaker will be immune to the security operations.

Debate heats up as U.S. toll rises
The U.S. Senate on Wednesday cleared a procedural roadblock, setting up a heated debate over a binding Democratic resolution to set a date for U.S. troops to leave Iraq.

After Republican Tuesday dropped their opposition to beginning debate on the proposal, the issue moved to the debate on a vote of 89-9. All nine no votes were Republicans. (Full story )

Why the Republicans decided to no longer block the vote depends on whom you ask. Democrats would say it's because Republicans no longer want to be labeled obstructionists. But Republicans realize the resolution is unlikely to pass.

The Democrats' resolution calls for phased redeployment to start four months after it becomes law, with a goal of March 31, 2008, for all combat troops to leave from Iraq. Remaining troops would focus on troop protection, training Iraqi forces and counterterrorism.

But even before the debate began, the legislation seemed doomed to fail. Moderate Republicans who had sided with Democrats last month in opposition to the president's troop increase dislike setting a deadline to leave, as do some Democrats. President Bush has threatened to veto any such measure.

The movement in the Senate debate came as three U.S. soldiers died Wednesday and nine were injured in Iraq's Diyala province, the U.S. military said.

Two of the soldiers died as a result of separate roadside bombings while they were conducting combat operations. A third died from small arms fire, the military said.

The military also reported the Tuesday deaths of a Marine and two U.S. soldiers.

The deaths bring to 3,192 the number of U.S. soldiers killed since the Iraq war began. Seven American civilian contractors of the military also have died in the contract.

Other developments

The sons of late Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein have been reburied near their father, an Iraqi tribal leader said Wednesday. The bodies of Uday and Qusay Hussein, killed by U.S. forces in the northern city of Mosul in 2003, were exhumed from the old Awja cemetery north of Baghdad, according to Ali al-Nida, head of the Albu Nasir tribe. They have been reburied outside a hall where their father was buried after his hanging in December, al-Nida said. "We buried them according to their family's will," he said.


Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, 73, returned home Wednesday to Sulaimaniya in Iraq's Kurdish region after more than two weeks in a Jordanian hospital. The reason for Talabani's hospitalization remains uncertain. At the time, a hospital source told CNN that doctors performed a catheterization procedure on his heart, but family aides denied that report, saying Talabani was suffering from exhaustion and lung inflammation.

CNN's Jennifer Deaton and Mohammed Tawfeeq contributed to this report.

 

[maineman]

hey... YOU were the one who claimed that the Iraq casualty website PROVED your assinine suggestion that American casualties are DOWN 60%.

I only asked you to show me how that site proves any such thing.

YOU have been unable to answer that and unable - as always - to string more than a sentence at a time of your own words together and continue to rely on cut and paste.

I say again: please show me and express in your own words, how you come up with the 60% decrease in American casualties from the website YOU posted.

 

[red states rule]

Baghdad security crackdown seriously curbs killings of US soldiers

MIL-IRAQ-US SOLDIERS
Baghdad security crackdown seriously curbs killings of US soldiers

BAGHDAD, March 14 (KUNA) -- The rate of killings of US troops in Iraq has been on the decline, down by 60 percent, since the launch of the new security measures in Baghdad, according to statistics revealed by the Multi-National Force -Iraq Combined Press Information Centre.

Only 17 members of the US military in Iraq have been killed since February 14 till March 13, compared to 42 from January 13 to February 13; the rate was on the decline during the first month of the security crackdown, compared to a month before.

Two of the 17 soldiers died at US Baghdad camps of non-combat causes.

The remarkable decrease in killings among the US troops came at a time when more of these troops were deployed in the Iraqi capital, especially in districts previously regarded as extremely hazardous for them such as Al-Sadr City, Al-Azamiyah, and Al-Doura.

Meanwhile, US attacks on insurgent strongholds north of Baghdad curbed attacks against helicopters. Before the new security plan, many such craft were downed leaving 20 soldiers dead.

The US army in Iraq had earlier said that sectarian fighting and violence in Baghdad had dropped sharply, by about 80 percent, since the launch of the plan.

The statistics excluded US troops killed in other governorates such as Al-Anbar, Diyala, and Salahiddin.

As to the latest human losses, the US army announced Wednesday that two American soldiers had been killed, one in southern Baghdad and the other northeast of the capital.(end) ahh.

http://www.kuna.net.kw/Home/print.aspx?Language=en&DSNO=961365

 

[maineman]

still running away from your own links?

why are you such a cowardly pussy?

Just show me the numbers from the Iraq casualty website that prove your 60% decrease allegation and we'll be all set.... or have the balls to admit you fucked up.

 

[red states rule]

still running away from your own links?

why are you such a cowardly pussy?

Just show me the numbers from the Iraq casualty website that prove your 60% decrease allegation and we'll be all set.... or have the balls to admit you fucked up.

I guess you will have to cancel your party over the graves of the troops...........

Baghdad security crackdown seriously curbs killings of US soldiers

Military and Secuity 3/14/2007 11:30:00 AM



KUN0014 4 GEN 0266 KUWAIT /KUNA-QVN0 MIL-IRAQ-US SOLDIERS Baghdad security crackdown seriously curbs killings of US soldiers BAGHDAD, March 14 (KUNA) -- The rate of killings of US troops in Iraq has been on the decline, down by 60 percent, since the launch of the new security measures in Baghdad, according to statistics revealed by the Multi-National Force -Iraq Combined Press Information Centre. Only 17 members of the US military in Iraq have been killed since February 14 till March 13, compared to 42 from January 13 to February 13; the rate was on the decline during the first month of the security crackdown, compared to a month before. Two of the 17 soldiers died at US Baghdad camps of non-combat causes. The remarkable decrease in killings among the US troops came at a time when more of these troops were deployed in the Iraqi capital, especially in districts previously regarded as extremely hazardous for them such as Al-Sadr City, Al-Azamiyah, and Al-Doura. Meanwhile, US attacks on insurgent strongholds north of Baghdad curbed attacks against helicopters. Before the new security plan, many such craft were downed leaving 20 soldiers dead. The US army in Iraq had earlier said that sectarian fighting and violence in Baghdad had dropped sharply, by about 80 percent, since the launch of the plan. The statistics excluded US troops killed in other governorates such as Al-Anbar, Diyala, and Salahiddin. As to the latest human losses, the US army announced Wednesday that two American soldiers had been killed, one in southern Baghdad and the other northeast of the capital.(end) ahh.msa KUNA 141130 Mar 07NNNN

 

[maineman]

I guess you will have to cancel your party over the graves of the troops...........

Baghdad security crackdown seriously curbs killings of US soldiers

Military and Secuity 3/14/2007 11:30:00 AM



KUN0014 4 GEN 0266 KUWAIT /KUNA-QVN0 MIL-IRAQ-US SOLDIERS Baghdad security crackdown seriously curbs killings of US soldiers BAGHDAD, March 14 (KUNA) -- The rate of killings of US troops in Iraq has been on the decline, down by 60 percent, since the launch of the new security measures in Baghdad, according to statistics revealed by the Multi-National Force -Iraq Combined Press Information Centre. Only 17 members of the US military in Iraq have been killed since February 14 till March 13, compared to 42 from January 13 to February 13; the rate was on the decline during the first month of the security crackdown, compared to a month before. Two of the 17 soldiers died at US Baghdad camps of non-combat causes. The remarkable decrease in killings among the US troops came at a time when more of these troops were deployed in the Iraqi capital, especially in districts previously regarded as extremely hazardous for them such as Al-Sadr City, Al-Azamiyah, and Al-Doura. Meanwhile, US attacks on insurgent strongholds north of Baghdad curbed attacks against helicopters. Before the new security plan, many such craft were downed leaving 20 soldiers dead. The US army in Iraq had earlier said that sectarian fighting and violence in Baghdad had dropped sharply, by about 80 percent, since the launch of the plan. The statistics excluded US troops killed in other governorates such as Al-Anbar, Diyala, and Salahiddin. As to the latest human losses, the US army announced Wednesday that two American soldiers had been killed, one in southern Baghdad and the other northeast of the capital.(end) ahh.msa KUNA 141130 Mar 07NNNN

And shut the fuck up about me throwing a party on soldier's graves you worthless piece of shit..... when are you going to admit that American deaths are not down by 60%?

 

[maineman]

this was YOUR link:

http://icasualties.org/oif/

please show me from that link where American deaths are down by 60%

I'll wait.

 

[red states rule]

And shut the fuck up about me throwing a party on soldier's graves you worthless piece of shit..... when are you going to admit that American deaths are not down by 60%?

maybe you missed the good news

The rate of killings of US troops in Iraq has been on the decline, down by 60 percent, since the launch of the new security measures in Baghdad, according to statistics revealed by the Multi-National Force -Iraq Combined Press Information Centre

please cancel the cake and the band - yoour party is now cancelled

 

[maineman]

maybe you missed the good news

The rate of killings of US troops in Iraq has been on the decline, down by 60 percent, since the launch of the new security measures in Baghdad, according to statistics revealed by the Multi-National Force -Iraq Combined Press Information Centre

please cancel the cake and the band - yoour party is now cancelled

maybe you missed the FACTS that our boys are dying in the war in Iraq at exactly the same rate they were before the surge.

your own link proves that...why do you run away from that fact?


83 in January
80 in February
81 in March
10 already in April

Where is the 60% decrease in those figures?

 

[red states rule]

maybe you missed the FACTS that our boys are dying in the war in Iraq at exactly the same rate they were before the surge.

your own link proves that...why do you run away from that fact?


83 in January
80 in February
81 in March
10 already in April

Where is the 60% decrease in those figures?

Damn, your are set on having your death watch party

To bad the Multi-National Force -Iraq Combined Press Information Centre deos not agree with you

 

[maineman]

Damn, your are set on having your death watch party

To bad the Multi-National Force -Iraq Combined Press Information Centre deos not agree with you

are you suggesting that those numbers of Americans have NOT died?

Those numbers are from the website that YOU posted here.

what's up with that?

 

[maineman]

http://icasualties.org/oif/

those numbers are all verified by the Department of Defense....

do you believe them or not?