North Carolina approves amendment banning gay marriage

[KevinWestern]

I'm willing to bet 2 internets, that the guy who wrote this legislation in NC is yet one more self loasthing Republican closet case.

Shame on you. The guy is the definition of true American Hero.

Few men have the courage to stand up and make sure that couples (who are totally unrelated to his own life) can’t access one another’s medical records, file joint taxes, or drive each other’s rental cars.


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[bigrebnc1775]

Marriage Amendment by county

WRAL.com VoteTracker: 2012 Primary :: WRAL.com

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I'm willing to bet 2 internets, that the guy who wrote this legislation in NC is yet one more self loasthing Republican closet case.

Shame on you. The guy is a true American Hero.

Few men have the courage to stand up and make sure that couples (who are totally unrelated to his own life) can’t access one another’s medical records, file joint taxes, or drive one each other’s rental car.


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That is a big mistake on your part, read the amendment.

 

[WillowTree]

I'm willing to bet 2 internets, that the guy who wrote this legislation in NC is yet one more self loasthing Republican closet case.

Shame on you. The guy is a true American Hero.

Few men have the courage to stand up and make sure that couples (who are totally unrelated to his own life) can’t access one another’s medical records, file joint taxes, or drive one each other’s rental car.


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That is a big mistake on your part, read the amendment.

Make no mistake. It's not a mistake, It's purposeful stupidity. A true liberal idiot.

 

[KevinWestern]

Shame on you. The guy is a true American Hero.

Few men have the courage to stand up and make sure that couples (who are totally unrelated to his own life) can’t access one another’s medical records, file joint taxes, or drive one each other’s rental car.


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That is a big mistake on your part, read the amendment.

Make no mistake. It's not a mistake, It's purposeful stupidity. A true liberal idiot.

And how'd exactly did you arrive at the conclusion that I'm "a liberal"? Was it the past 25 posts or so of mine where I was arguing that we need to shrink the size and reach of our government? Or perhaps my believe that we should not sacrifice our right to choose as individuals? Or did your politics for dummies book tell you to call me that because I support same-sex marriage?

Really, I'd like to know....

 

[Caroljo]

That's a silly comparison. Slaves had the right to live with their slave owners (I'm not comparing the struggles of slaves to gays mind you). It went against them because the majority voted against the liberties of a minority. Exactly what should never happen in this country.

But you still have the liberty to smoke, gays don't have the liberty to get married.

I agree it shouldn't take a small group to change something. I wish the large group respected minority rights, a critical aspect to this country's foundation. Because in one way or another, we're probably all minorities. But we let our bigotries cloud our common sense.

Boy...i hate it when i have to leave for lunch and then 1500 posts later i try to catchup! Lol!

My comparison may sound silly to you, but the issue is...i had the "right" to smoke in public places all my life. It was taken away by the government because other people didn't want to be around it.

Gays never had the right to marry. They still have a right to live together like they always have...so nothing was "taken away" from them, they never had it to begin with.

And i won't apologize because i believe a "marriage" is between a man and a woman. I believe in the Bible, and that's where marriage was first told about and where God said a MAN will be joined to WOMAN.

I don't care if they live together, make it a "civil union" and get all the benefits that a married couple would get....my biggest issue is with actually having a wedding ceremony and calling it a marriage.

You're admitting your religious view should dictate government policy, I can't agree with that.

Should straight people who are swearing allegiance to different god(s) or prophets at their wedding ceremonies have their marriages recognized by gov't?

Yes...all religions should be recognized. When someone marries, from any religion, the govt should recognize it....religion is talked about in the constitution. It shouldn't matter what religion you are to be married.

My religious views do dictate how i think of this....i never said that it should dictate the government. I'm giving you my opinion according to my beliefs. That doesn't mean that the country has to agree with me.....but it looks like it might.

 

[koshergrl]

Here is some information of the master mind behind the APA pro-homosexual agenda, the sexual revolution, and the law reform our country has been subjected to since the 1960s, that has devastated the family:

"“Table 34,” on page 180 in Sexual Behavior in the Human Male. Kinsey-favoring biographer James Jones admitted in the Yorkshire interview what Kinsey’s own seminal research reveals, that is, children, some as young as 2 months of age, were used by “nine” adult male subjects for Kinsey’s human experiments: Kinsey relied upon [King, a pedophile] for the chapter on childhood sexuality in the male volume ... Many of his victims were infants and Kinsey in that chapter himself gives pretty graphic descriptions of their response to what he calls sexual stimulation. If you read those words, what he’s talking about is kids who are screaming. Kids who are protesting in every way they can the fact that their bodies or their persons are being violated.
Until 1998, when the Yorkshire investigators located the criminal trial records and news reports in Berlin, only a few in Kinsey’s inner circle knew about the Kinsey Institute’s collaboration with Dr. Fritz Von Balluseck. Von Balluseck was a Nazi pedophile who contributed his child abuse data (from roughly 1936-1956) to Kinsey’s research database. German news accounts during the trial reported:
The Nazis knew and gave him the opportunity to practice his abnormal tendencies in occupied Poland on Polish children, who had to choose between Balluseck and the gas ovens. After the war, the children were dead, but Balluseck lived. [National-Zeitung, May 15, 1957]."

http://www.theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/22SxSo/PnSx/Knsy/RiesmnAlecRprt.htm


What is taught in the schools as sex ed, the whole concept that deviancy is "normal" stems directly from this monster's "research"...which wasn't research, but a fraud and years of abuse perpetrated upon children and infants, by Kinsey, his acolytes (including a Nazi monster).


This is the garbage the left embraced, and continues to embrace. The studies that determined there was nothing "abnormal" about homosexuality came from this perverted man. He submitted children to torture, and *interviewed* incarcerated sexual deviants...then presented the results of these studies to the public as if they were indicative of *normal* sexuality.


People need to quit buying the bullshit he pedaled, and the APA continues to pedal, and draw the line...we don't need homosexual marriage. We don't need to mainstream sexual deviants. The whole concept that it's "discriminatory" to refuse to allow them to define what a *normal* family is is based on the political and sexual agenda of a pedophile and a monster, intent on social reform that would result in the elimination of the *lower classes* via negative eugenics, and the normalization of pedophilia, is in itself a perversion and a crime.

 

[g5000]

You are a pyromaniac in a field of strawmen, koshergirl.

 

[WillowTree]

You are a pyromaniac in a field of strawmen, koshergirl.

she could set your ass on fire hey?

 

[koshergrl]

Check this out:

"
Since 1964, the Sex Education and Information Council of the United States (SIECUS) has provided sex education materials to public schools. SIECUS, a private entity, received initial seed money from the Playboy Foundation. It was founded via the Kinsey Institute at Indiana University as its outreach. SIECUS is dependent upon Indiana University’s Kinsey Reports, including the “scientific” tables documenting the Kinsey protocol of ongoing molestation of infants and children by pedophiles, including at least one former Gestapo officer. These criminal acts provided the “proof,” Kinsey said, of sexual desire and erotic capacity in infants and children.
Therefore, according to Kinsey, “science” requires teaching kindergarten children about their sexuality. In the April 14, 1980 issue of Time Magazine, SIECUS was described as part of the “pro-incest lobby,” and in 1996, SIECUS issued a position statement advocating the use of “sexually explicit materials” to teach school children:
When sensitively used in a manner appropriate to the viewer’s age and developmental level, sexually explicit visual, printed, or on-line materials can be valuable educational personal aids helping to reduce ignorance and confusion and contributing to a wholesome concept of sexuality."


The ALEC Report on Kinsey

 

[koshergrl]

Everything these idiots think they know about the normalcy of homosexuality has been spoon fed them by a Nazi pervert, a pedophile..and Playboy.

Congrats, losers. You've been had.

 

[Caroljo]

Why stomp on a man's liberty to marry his cousin or his sister? shit

The real question is, why stomp on a man's liberty when the choice you're preventing him from being able to make doesn't have any effect the personal rights of you or any other individual within that society?

Do people like you reduce liberty for fun, or do you do it because you want everyone else to behave and make the same exact choices as you do?

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I can't speak for Willow...but being a Christian and believing what i do....i could not in good conscience vote to let gays marry. I get a lot of flack for this, but this is how i feel and i can't vote any other way. I would be going against everything i have ever believed, and against my God. If i get ridiculed and bashed because of it, oh well....but like i've said before, i have friends that are gay, i love them and their dear friends....but i don't have to love their lifestyle. They're good with that....

 

[Vast LWC]

And how'd exactly did you arrive at the conclusion that I'm "a liberal"? Was it the past 25 posts or so of mine where I was arguing that we need to shrink the size and reach of our government? Or perhaps my believe that we should not sacrifice our right to choose as individuals? Or did your politics for dummies book tell you to call me that because I support same-sex marriage?

Really, I'd like to know....

Some people just don't get what Libertarianism actually entails.

 

[Vast LWC]

What's the big fucking deal if two guys (or two girls) want to tie the knot?

Exactly my thoughts. The best way to prevent gay marriage is to let them marry and see what a living hell <joke> marriage is really like. The last thing on a married person's mind in this economy is "what are my rights." This whole ruckus is a set up by the Obama administration to garner more votes. That's why his lap dog Biden went out there and said he's for gay marriage.

As far as I see it, gay's can have the same rights as straight marriages through legal unions. This whole thing is a non issue for most voters, except for those who are ideologically committed on either side. The question is, if Obama is "evolving" his stance on gay marriage after he said he's against it in his 08 campaign, what else is he evolving on until after he gets re-elected?

Just another reason to not trust this bullshit artist snake oil salesman of a president we now have, and boot his greasy ass out of office in November 2012.

While I agree with your sentiment on the whole institution and it's relative unimportance...

How do you suppose Obama infiltrated the Republican Party in the early '90's to start the whole anti-gay ball rolling?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Degeneracy impairs the integrity of the whole. Have you personally been impacted by anything at all that goes on elsewhere? All the murders, rapes, extortions, frauds, molestations, abuse, prostitution, pornography, none of it impacts you personally. When we start accepting degeneracy as normal conduct, it moves from what they are doing to what we are doing. Gays and lesbians should live whatever lives they wish to as a matter of their personal right. When they demand that others change and accept their behavior as normal that's when the go beyond their own choices and move into affecting mine.

Well Katz – to put it simply, the act of two people marrying does NOT directly affect or infringe on the rights of any non-consenting third parties in the way that murder, rape, extortion, fraud, molestation, and prostitution would.

That’s my reply.

Also, I don't happen to consider the marriage between two people who love each other a form of "societal degeneracy".
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Actually, it does, unless we assume that minor children have no rights.

 

[Vast LWC]

You are a pyromaniac in a field of strawmen, koshergirl.

I think she's more a sociopath lost in a bubble of conspiracy theories, but that's just me...

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I'm willing to bet 2 internets, that the guy who wrote this legislation in NC is yet one more self loasthing Republican closet case.

Shame on you. The guy is the definition of true American Hero.

Few men have the courage to stand up and make sure that couples (who are totally unrelated to his own life) can’t access one another’s medical records, file joint taxes, or drive each other’s rental cars.


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I have never had any problem accessing medical records of anyone I wanted to outside of the state of California. In California I cannot even access my own medical records without a court order, so you can't blame that on marriage.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Check this out:

"
Since 1964, the Sex Education and Information Council of the United States (SIECUS) has provided sex education materials to public schools. SIECUS, a private entity, received initial seed money from the Playboy Foundation. It was founded via the Kinsey Institute at Indiana University as its outreach. SIECUS is dependent upon Indiana University’s Kinsey Reports, including the “scientific” tables documenting the Kinsey protocol of ongoing molestation of infants and children by pedophiles, including at least one former Gestapo officer. These criminal acts provided the “proof,” Kinsey said, of sexual desire and erotic capacity in infants and children.
Therefore, according to Kinsey, “science” requires teaching kindergarten children about their sexuality. In the April 14, 1980 issue of Time Magazine, SIECUS was described as part of the “pro-incest lobby,” and in 1996, SIECUS issued a position statement advocating the use of “sexually explicit materials” to teach school children:
When sensitively used in a manner appropriate to the viewer’s age and developmental level, sexually explicit visual, printed, or on-line materials can be valuable educational personal aids helping to reduce ignorance and confusion and contributing to a wholesome concept of sexuality."


The ALEC Report on Kinsey

Yes I like your avatar I check it out every time I read your post.

 

[Vast LWC]

Actually, it does, unless we assume that minor children have no rights.

Guess we should deny the right to bear children to abusive red-necks too then.

Perhaps a test for an over-abundance of testosterone and lack of control?

 

[thereisnospoon]

orth Carolina voters approved a constitutional amendment on Tuesday defining marriage solely as a union between a man and a woman, making it the 30th state to adopt such a ban.
With 35 percent of precincts reporting Tuesday, unofficial returns showed the amendment passing with about 58 percent of the vote to 42 percent against.
In the final days before the vote, members of President Barack Obama's cabinet expressed support for gay marriage and former President Bill Clinton recorded phone messages urging voters to reject the amendment. Opponents also held marches, ran TV ads and gave speeches, including one by Jay Bakker, son of televangelists Jim Bakker and the late Tammy Faye Bakker.


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Is evolver in chief too late?

Yeah! One more example of the New Right suppressing the Freedom and Liberties of a minority of our citizens. Ya gotta love those North Carolinians, real Americans (the last sentence [you do know what a sentence is, don't you Willow Tree?] is sarcasm (you can look up sarcasm at dictionary.com).

None's freedoms were suppressed. In order for there to be a denial of a right or freedom, that right or freedom would have to had existed in the first place.