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Why Hillary Clinton Is Probably Going to Win -- NYMag
(Jonathan Chait is an OUTSTANDING and level-headed writer, one of the brightest of the bunch anywhere)
Chait then lists 5 very strong, debatable points:
1. The Emerging Democratic Majority is real.
2. No, youngsters are not turning Republican.
3. Clinton isn't that unpopular.
4. Obama is trending up.
5.Is it time for a change?
Now, there is a lot that can be debated, here. I think that his first point is his strongest, namely, that an emerging Democratic Majority is VERY real. Pollsters, pundits and statisticians are calling it the BLUE WALL.
Here is the BLUE WALL:
Those are the states that have gone reliably BLUE now for 6 cycles in a row (1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008 and 2012). 8 of those states + DC as well are actually 7-for-7 states, going back to 1988: Washington State, Oregon, Hawaii, Minnesota, Wisconsin, New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and DC. Minnesota is now a 10 for 10 BLUE State. All said and told, the BLUE WALL, where polling continues to show no chance for the GOP, amounts to 242 EV. This is where the Democratic Party STARTS.
Add to that the states that are 5-for-6 DEM states, and the math looks like this:
That would bring the Democratic Party to 257 as the baseline for a Blue-Wall. I am not so sure about Iowa, it can be a quirkly little state, and frankly, the Latino demographic in Nevada says that that state is more likely to be a permanent blue wall member soon, although it is a 4-for-6 D state (Bush won NV in both 2000 and 2004).
I did a large analysis on this more than two years ago, it might be interesting reading for some:
Statistikhengst s ELECTORAL POLITICS - 2015 and beyond ELECTORAL COLUMNS - a map display
(that link also goes over the RED WALL as well, so it could be very informative for many)
And this link as well:
Statistikhengst s ELECTORAL POLITICS - 2015 and beyond The Clinton 6 vs. The Obama 3
(the "Clinton 6" refers to Bill Clinton, not Hillary, but the information is indeed relevant)
But back to Chait's point no. 1: a Democratic majority, in presidential elections, is indeed forming. The mistake that many on a losing side make is to want to equate mid-term successes with the coming presidential election, but there is no real correlation between mid-terms and the next presidential election. Were that the case, then neither Eisenhower nor Reagan nor Clinton would have been re-elected.
So, have sun reading the write-up, and discuss.
(Jonathan Chait is an OUTSTANDING and level-headed writer, one of the brightest of the bunch anywhere)
Unless the economy goes into a recession over the next year and a half, Hillary Clinton is probably going to win the presidential election. The United States has polarized into stable voting blocs, and the Democratic bloc is a bit larger and growing at a faster rate...
...Here are the basic reasons why Clinton should be considered a presumptive favorite:
Chait then lists 5 very strong, debatable points:
1. The Emerging Democratic Majority is real.
2. No, youngsters are not turning Republican.
3. Clinton isn't that unpopular.
4. Obama is trending up.
5.Is it time for a change?
Now, there is a lot that can be debated, here. I think that his first point is his strongest, namely, that an emerging Democratic Majority is VERY real. Pollsters, pundits and statisticians are calling it the BLUE WALL.
Here is the BLUE WALL:
Those are the states that have gone reliably BLUE now for 6 cycles in a row (1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008 and 2012). 8 of those states + DC as well are actually 7-for-7 states, going back to 1988: Washington State, Oregon, Hawaii, Minnesota, Wisconsin, New York, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and DC. Minnesota is now a 10 for 10 BLUE State. All said and told, the BLUE WALL, where polling continues to show no chance for the GOP, amounts to 242 EV. This is where the Democratic Party STARTS.
Add to that the states that are 5-for-6 DEM states, and the math looks like this:
That would bring the Democratic Party to 257 as the baseline for a Blue-Wall. I am not so sure about Iowa, it can be a quirkly little state, and frankly, the Latino demographic in Nevada says that that state is more likely to be a permanent blue wall member soon, although it is a 4-for-6 D state (Bush won NV in both 2000 and 2004).
I did a large analysis on this more than two years ago, it might be interesting reading for some:
Statistikhengst s ELECTORAL POLITICS - 2015 and beyond ELECTORAL COLUMNS - a map display
(that link also goes over the RED WALL as well, so it could be very informative for many)
And this link as well:
Statistikhengst s ELECTORAL POLITICS - 2015 and beyond The Clinton 6 vs. The Obama 3
(the "Clinton 6" refers to Bill Clinton, not Hillary, but the information is indeed relevant)
But back to Chait's point no. 1: a Democratic majority, in presidential elections, is indeed forming. The mistake that many on a losing side make is to want to equate mid-term successes with the coming presidential election, but there is no real correlation between mid-terms and the next presidential election. Were that the case, then neither Eisenhower nor Reagan nor Clinton would have been re-elected.
So, have sun reading the write-up, and discuss.