Obama Flubs Skewer Liberalism

Someone tell that idiot the founders themselves didn't trust the people to vote for the president, or their own senators. Our representatives at the state and federal level are supposed to select these people. Do you think we'd have armies of lobbiests sucking the government sow dry with special interest spending programs otherwise?

The 17th Amendment changed that, and we've been on a slow but steady decline into collective slavery ever since.

Okay, Pete. Tell us all what you believe is a better "solution." (FWIW, I tend to agree--but I'd love you hear one of you right wingers actually come out and say that you support dictatorships that support your policies.)

Right, because no bed wetter has wished for a leftist dictator....

Oh wait they have... Idiot.

Williams assured that he personally wouldn’t have any trouble following dictates from Obama because “I can’t imagine that he would ever lead us astray".

I'll bet they said the same thing in Germany around 1930 something.

Just for shits and grins I'll say openly that we could use a right wing dictator. Pinochete did what he had to do, snuffed out a few marxist sociopaths, and then gave up the office. The other major difference is that when leftist dictators rule a country, the "excess population" is wiped out through famines and gulags. Rightwing dictators just let the "excess population" fend for itself. 'll take my chances in Chile, enjoy yourself in North Korea.


Lots of stupid comments there. I especially liked this one:

"The other major difference is that when leftist dictators rule a country, the "excess population" is wiped out through famines and gulags. Rightwing dictators just let the "excess population" fend for itself."

Have you ever heard of Adolf Hitler? He was a somewhat "active" right winger. And don't give me that bullshit line about how he was a socialist.

Also, dictators are dictators--at that point, "left" and "right" makes no difference. They act the same.
 
all I can say is, I can't wait for November 2014. when it will be Americans, {US} VS Them! (kinda like that Giant Ant Movie Classic from the 50's when Joe Biden was only 65 years old).


Just curious, Tige.....

Why would you believe that the folks who ambled through the Obama failures in foreign policy, in economic and domestic policy, broken promises, etc......




and used one of these three modes in deciding for whom to vote:

invincible ignorance: lack of knowledge that a person has no way to obtain

vincible ignorance: lack of knowledge that a rational person is capable of acquiring by making an effort

nescience: lack of knowledge that doesn’t matter in the circumstances (from Latin ne-, “not” plus scire, “to know.”



...would alter their voting style?


Possibly you have more faith than I.

I've reposted your comment, since you seem unaware of it.

Basically, PC, you're saying that the American voters can no longer be trusted to select a President because you disagree with the outcome of the election. I've heard that line of reasoning before.

So, your solution is (drum roll, please):


"I've reposted your comment, since you seem unaware of it."
Post #7 asks if that is what you have gleaned from the OP.

Are you aware of the meaning of "OP"?


Did you have anything to say about the charge in the OP, i.e., that the scandals- clear to all- except the most intense Obama groupies- have revealed the weakness of Big Government, Liberalism.

Due to human nature, Liberalism can never fulfill the promises that the naive have accepted.


That is the point.
 
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Okay, Pete. Tell us all what you believe is a better "solution." (FWIW, I tend to agree--but I'd love you hear one of you right wingers actually come out and say that you support dictatorships that support your policies.)

Right, because no bed wetter has wished for a leftist dictator....

Oh wait they have... Idiot.

Williams assured that he personally wouldn’t have any trouble following dictates from Obama because “I can’t imagine that he would ever lead us astray".

I'll bet they said the same thing in Germany around 1930 something.

Just for shits and grins I'll say openly that we could use a right wing dictator. Pinochete did what he had to do, snuffed out a few marxist sociopaths, and then gave up the office. The other major difference is that when leftist dictators rule a country, the "excess population" is wiped out through famines and gulags. Rightwing dictators just let the "excess population" fend for itself. 'll take my chances in Chile, enjoy yourself in North Korea.


Lots of stupid comments there. I especially liked this one:

"The other major difference is that when leftist dictators rule a country, the "excess population" is wiped out through famines and gulags. Rightwing dictators just let the "excess population" fend for itself."

Have you ever heard of Adolf Hitler? He was a somewhat "active" right winger. And don't give me that bullshit line about how he was a socialist.

Also, dictators are dictators--at that point, "left" and "right" makes no difference. They act the same.

You find that stupid?

One must chalk it up to your lack of erudition.


Study this and then see if you still find it 'stupid.'
Pay special attention to the comments at 1:28

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Just curious, Tige.....

Why would you believe that the folks who ambled through the Obama failures in foreign policy, in economic and domestic policy, broken promises, etc......




and used one of these three modes in deciding for whom to vote:

invincible ignorance: lack of knowledge that a person has no way to obtain

vincible ignorance: lack of knowledge that a rational person is capable of acquiring by making an effort

nescience: lack of knowledge that doesn’t matter in the circumstances (from Latin ne-, “not” plus scire, “to know.”



...would alter their voting style?


Possibly you have more faith than I.

I've reposted your comment, since you seem unaware of it.

Basically, PC, you're saying that the American voters can no longer be trusted to select a President because you disagree with the outcome of the election. I've heard that line of reasoning before.

So, your solution is (drum roll, please):


"I've reposted your comment, since you seem unaware of it."
Post #7 asks if that is what you have gleaned from the OP.

Are you aware of the meaning of "OP"?


Did you have anything to say about the charge in the OP, i.e., that the scandals- clear to all- except the most intense Obama groupies- have revealed the weakness of Big Government, Liberalism.

Due to human nature, Liberalism can never fulfill the promises that the naive have accepted.


That is the point.

You fucked up when you tried to tie "big government" corruption to "liberals," though. Big government is just big government. It can be left wing, right wing, or centrist. It is not an ideological thing; in fact, I might suggest that size and power of government is more directly connected to population size and density.

As long as you blame everything in the world on this so-called "liberalism," you will remain well-spoken but essentially ignorant.
 
I've reposted your comment, since you seem unaware of it.

Basically, PC, you're saying that the American voters can no longer be trusted to select a President because you disagree with the outcome of the election. I've heard that line of reasoning before.

So, your solution is (drum roll, please):


"I've reposted your comment, since you seem unaware of it."
Post #7 asks if that is what you have gleaned from the OP.

Are you aware of the meaning of "OP"?


Did you have anything to say about the charge in the OP, i.e., that the scandals- clear to all- except the most intense Obama groupies- have revealed the weakness of Big Government, Liberalism.

Due to human nature, Liberalism can never fulfill the promises that the naive have accepted.


That is the point.

You fucked up when you tried to tie "big government" corruption to "liberals," though. Big government is just big government. It can be left wing, right wing, or centrist. It is not an ideological thing; in fact, I might suggest that size and power of government is more directly connected to population size and density.

As long as you blame everything in the world on this so-called "liberalism," you will remain well-spoken but essentially ignorant.




Watch your language.....it gives you away.

Earlier I suggested you lack erudition.

By the current post, you've proven it.


Not certain that you can handle the following...but it should start you on your journey toward understanding.




1. At its core, fascism is the view that every element of society must work together in spiritual union toward the same goals at the behest of the state. One can see it defined in Mussolini's own summary of the Fascist philosophy: "Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato" (Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State)
MODERN LEFTISM AS RECYCLED FASCISM
And...that is the core of libealism.


2. Progressives, liberals, are at heart, no different in desire than the command and control governments of Mussolini, Stalin and FDR.
You see, their greatest endeavor is to produce 'equality'...and this requires a big government.
No conservatives there; conservatism is based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.



3. The first true enterprise of this kind, fascism, was established in the in the United States under the 20th century’s first fascist dictator: Woodrow Wilson, progressive.
During WW I, under the Progressive Woodrow Wilson, American was a fascist nation.

a. Had the world’s first modern propaganda ministry

b. Political prisoners by the thousands were harassed, beaten, spied upon and thrown in jail for simply expressing private opinions.

c. The national leader accused foreigners and immigrants of injecting treasonous ‘poison’ into the American bloodstream

d. Newspapers and magazines were closed for criticizing the government

e. Almost 100,000 government propaganda agents were sent out to whip up support for the regime and the war

f. College professors imposed loyalty oaths on their colleagues

g. Nearly a quarter million ‘goons’ were given legal authority to beat and intimidate ‘slackers’ and dissenters

h. Leading artists and writers dedicated their work to proselytizing for the government.
http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/Classical_Liberalism_vs_Modern_Liberal_Conservatism.pdf p. 9



Only a fool would deny that it is liberals who espouse big government.
Would you be one?
 
"I've reposted your comment, since you seem unaware of it."
Post #7 asks if that is what you have gleaned from the OP.

Are you aware of the meaning of "OP"?


Did you have anything to say about the charge in the OP, i.e., that the scandals- clear to all- except the most intense Obama groupies- have revealed the weakness of Big Government, Liberalism.

Due to human nature, Liberalism can never fulfill the promises that the naive have accepted.


That is the point.

You fucked up when you tried to tie "big government" corruption to "liberals," though. Big government is just big government. It can be left wing, right wing, or centrist. It is not an ideological thing; in fact, I might suggest that size and power of government is more directly connected to population size and density.

As long as you blame everything in the world on this so-called "liberalism," you will remain well-spoken but essentially ignorant.




Watch your language.....it gives you away.

Earlier I suggested you lack erudition.

By the current post, you've proven it.


Not certain that you can handle the following...but it should start you on your journey toward understanding.




1. At its core, fascism is the view that every element of society must work together in spiritual union toward the same goals at the behest of the state. One can see it defined in Mussolini's own summary of the Fascist philosophy: "Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato" (Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State)
MODERN LEFTISM AS RECYCLED FASCISM
And...that is the core of libealism.


2. Progressives, liberals, are at heart, no different in desire than the command and control governments of Mussolini, Stalin and FDR.
You see, their greatest endeavor is to produce 'equality'...and this requires a big government.
No conservatives there; conservatism is based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.



3. The first true enterprise of this kind, fascism, was established in the in the United States under the 20th century’s first fascist dictator: Woodrow Wilson, progressive.
During WW I, under the Progressive Woodrow Wilson, American was a fascist nation.

a. Had the world’s first modern propaganda ministry

b. Political prisoners by the thousands were harassed, beaten, spied upon and thrown in jail for simply expressing private opinions.

c. The national leader accused foreigners and immigrants of injecting treasonous ‘poison’ into the American bloodstream

d. Newspapers and magazines were closed for criticizing the government

e. Almost 100,000 government propaganda agents were sent out to whip up support for the regime and the war

f. College professors imposed loyalty oaths on their colleagues

g. Nearly a quarter million ‘goons’ were given legal authority to beat and intimidate ‘slackers’ and dissenters

h. Leading artists and writers dedicated their work to proselytizing for the government.
http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/Classical_Liberalism_vs_Modern_Liberal_Conservatism.pdf p. 9



Only a fool would deny that it is liberals who espouse big government.
Would you be one?

I hate to break this to you, but the opinions you cite are merely opinions. I could flip this around and bag on right wingers pretty hard, too. Right wingers are certainly more identified with fascism than lefties, but there ya go.

This is interesting, because right wingers like yourself love to rage on and on about fascist dictatorships; and yet, ya'll are pretty incensed at democracy in action.

This is, I suppose, why you seem sort of insane to so many "normal" folks.
 
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You fucked up when you tried to tie "big government" corruption to "liberals," though. Big government is just big government. It can be left wing, right wing, or centrist. It is not an ideological thing; in fact, I might suggest that size and power of government is more directly connected to population size and density.

As long as you blame everything in the world on this so-called "liberalism," you will remain well-spoken but essentially ignorant.




Watch your language.....it gives you away.

Earlier I suggested you lack erudition.

By the current post, you've proven it.


Not certain that you can handle the following...but it should start you on your journey toward understanding.




1. At its core, fascism is the view that every element of society must work together in spiritual union toward the same goals at the behest of the state. One can see it defined in Mussolini's own summary of the Fascist philosophy: "Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato" (Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State)
MODERN LEFTISM AS RECYCLED FASCISM
And...that is the core of libealism.


2. Progressives, liberals, are at heart, no different in desire than the command and control governments of Mussolini, Stalin and FDR.
You see, their greatest endeavor is to produce 'equality'...and this requires a big government.
No conservatives there; conservatism is based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.



3. The first true enterprise of this kind, fascism, was established in the in the United States under the 20th century’s first fascist dictator: Woodrow Wilson, progressive.
During WW I, under the Progressive Woodrow Wilson, American was a fascist nation.

a. Had the world’s first modern propaganda ministry

b. Political prisoners by the thousands were harassed, beaten, spied upon and thrown in jail for simply expressing private opinions.

c. The national leader accused foreigners and immigrants of injecting treasonous ‘poison’ into the American bloodstream

d. Newspapers and magazines were closed for criticizing the government

e. Almost 100,000 government propaganda agents were sent out to whip up support for the regime and the war

f. College professors imposed loyalty oaths on their colleagues

g. Nearly a quarter million ‘goons’ were given legal authority to beat and intimidate ‘slackers’ and dissenters

h. Leading artists and writers dedicated their work to proselytizing for the government.
http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/Classical_Liberalism_vs_Modern_Liberal_Conservatism.pdf p. 9



Only a fool would deny that it is liberals who espouse big government.
Would you be one?

I hate to break this to you, but the opinions you cite are merely opinions. I could flip this around and bag on right wingers pretty hard, too. Right wingers are certainly more identified with fascism than lefties, but there ya go.

This is interesting, because right wingers like yourself love to rage on and on about fascist dictatorships; and yet, ya'll are pretty incensed at democracy in action.

This is, I suppose, why you seem sort of insane to so many "normal" folks.

Let's be honest: you're an idiot.


Every one of the a. through h. is a fact.



I said you aren't educated....and your defense is that all the myriad things you don't know are 'opinions.'



'Right wingers are certainly more identified with fascism than lefties, but there ya go."
See....there's an opinion.

Here's a better one:

Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. WORLD | Let's admit who we are | Marvin Olasky | July 17, 2010



"This is, I suppose, why you seem sort of insane to so many "normal" folks."

Hard to believe you know any 'normal' folks.
Don't count the ones who have to pay an admission fee to see you....
 
Watch your language.....it gives you away.

Earlier I suggested you lack erudition.

By the current post, you've proven it.


Not certain that you can handle the following...but it should start you on your journey toward understanding.




1. At its core, fascism is the view that every element of society must work together in spiritual union toward the same goals at the behest of the state. One can see it defined in Mussolini's own summary of the Fascist philosophy: "Tutto nello Stato, niente al di fuori dello Stato, nulla contro lo Stato" (Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State)
MODERN LEFTISM AS RECYCLED FASCISM
And...that is the core of libealism.


2. Progressives, liberals, are at heart, no different in desire than the command and control governments of Mussolini, Stalin and FDR.
You see, their greatest endeavor is to produce 'equality'...and this requires a big government.
No conservatives there; conservatism is based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.



3. The first true enterprise of this kind, fascism, was established in the in the United States under the 20th century’s first fascist dictator: Woodrow Wilson, progressive.
During WW I, under the Progressive Woodrow Wilson, American was a fascist nation.

a. Had the world’s first modern propaganda ministry

b. Political prisoners by the thousands were harassed, beaten, spied upon and thrown in jail for simply expressing private opinions.

c. The national leader accused foreigners and immigrants of injecting treasonous ‘poison’ into the American bloodstream

d. Newspapers and magazines were closed for criticizing the government

e. Almost 100,000 government propaganda agents were sent out to whip up support for the regime and the war

f. College professors imposed loyalty oaths on their colleagues

g. Nearly a quarter million ‘goons’ were given legal authority to beat and intimidate ‘slackers’ and dissenters

h. Leading artists and writers dedicated their work to proselytizing for the government.
http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/Classical_Liberalism_vs_Modern_Liberal_Conservatism.pdf p. 9



Only a fool would deny that it is liberals who espouse big government.
Would you be one?

I hate to break this to you, but the opinions you cite are merely opinions. I could flip this around and bag on right wingers pretty hard, too. Right wingers are certainly more identified with fascism than lefties, but there ya go.

This is interesting, because right wingers like yourself love to rage on and on about fascist dictatorships; and yet, ya'll are pretty incensed at democracy in action.

This is, I suppose, why you seem sort of insane to so many "normal" folks.

Let's be honest: you're an idiot.


Every one of the a. through h. is a fact.



I said you aren't educated....and your defense is that all the myriad things you don't know are 'opinions.'



'Right wingers are certainly more identified with fascism than lefties, but there ya go."
See....there's an opinion.

Here's a better one:

Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. WORLD | Let's admit who we are | Marvin Olasky | July 17, 2010



"This is, I suppose, why you seem sort of insane to so many "normal" folks."

Hard to believe you know any 'normal' folks.
Don't count the ones who have to pay an admission fee to see you....

You're fucked up beyond belief. Your lengthy diatribes are markedly singular in the way you approach ideological purity. I could start with your "Item 3.a" above (are you always this anal?) and start chewing from there. Why bother, though? You have a seemingly endless supply of time to compose acerbic rebuttals. So carry on.
 
I hate to break this to you, but the opinions you cite are merely opinions. I could flip this around and bag on right wingers pretty hard, too. Right wingers are certainly more identified with fascism than lefties, but there ya go.

This is interesting, because right wingers like yourself love to rage on and on about fascist dictatorships; and yet, ya'll are pretty incensed at democracy in action.

This is, I suppose, why you seem sort of insane to so many "normal" folks.

Let's be honest: you're an idiot.


Every one of the a. through h. is a fact.



I said you aren't educated....and your defense is that all the myriad things you don't know are 'opinions.'



'Right wingers are certainly more identified with fascism than lefties, but there ya go."
See....there's an opinion.

Here's a better one:

Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. WORLD | Let's admit who we are | Marvin Olasky | July 17, 2010



"This is, I suppose, why you seem sort of insane to so many "normal" folks."

Hard to believe you know any 'normal' folks.
Don't count the ones who have to pay an admission fee to see you....

You're fucked up beyond belief. Your lengthy diatribes are markedly singular in the way you approach ideological purity. I could start with your "Item 3.a" above (are you always this anal?) and start chewing from there. Why bother, though? You have a seemingly endless supply of time to compose acerbic rebuttals. So carry on.



Whenever folks fall to the common vulgarities, it is proof that they know they've been bested.


Glad you realized it.
 
Let's be honest: you're an idiot.


Every one of the a. through h. is a fact.



I said you aren't educated....and your defense is that all the myriad things you don't know are 'opinions.'



'Right wingers are certainly more identified with fascism than lefties, but there ya go."
See....there's an opinion.

Here's a better one:

Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred. A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. WORLD | Let's admit who we are | Marvin Olasky | July 17, 2010



"This is, I suppose, why you seem sort of insane to so many "normal" folks."

Hard to believe you know any 'normal' folks.
Don't count the ones who have to pay an admission fee to see you....

You're fucked up beyond belief. Your lengthy diatribes are markedly singular in the way you approach ideological purity. I could start with your "Item 3.a" above (are you always this anal?) and start chewing from there. Why bother, though? You have a seemingly endless supply of time to compose acerbic rebuttals. So carry on.



Whenever folks fall to the common vulgarities, it is proof that they know they've been bested.


Glad you realized it.

Nope, that isn't true at all. You're wrong once again.
 
You're fucked up beyond belief. Your lengthy diatribes are markedly singular in the way you approach ideological purity. I could start with your "Item 3.a" above (are you always this anal?) and start chewing from there. Why bother, though? You have a seemingly endless supply of time to compose acerbic rebuttals. So carry on.



Whenever folks fall to the common vulgarities, it is proof that they know they've been bested.


Glad you realized it.

Nope, that isn't true at all. You're wrong once again.



I'm never wrong. I once thought I was wrong, turns out, I was mistaken.
 
1. Let's revisit the IRS and Benghazi scandals of the Obama administration. First, it is admitted by all but the most die-hard Obama-fanatics, that these, and the AP phone records grab, are both malfeasance, and huge mishandling by the administration.

a. It is beyond chalking up to coincidence that in each and every case, the stories, the explanations, coming out of the government responsible agencies, fall in line with the political interests of Obama.





2. Unfortunately for larger political philosophy that he represents, the scandals also reveal the artifice that is Liberalism, Big Government Statism.

a. On Fox News Sunday, White House senior adviser Dan Pfeiffer told "Fox News Sunday" was asked to explain how Sarah Ingram, the IRS commissioner who once oversaw the division that processes tax-exempt applications and now tapped to oversee the new tax laws in ObamaCare, could be given a promotion in the light of events. " Sarah Ingram "provided horrible customer service" but Steven Miller thinks she deserves to be head honcho at the Obamacare office." Fired IRS Commissioner: I Promoted Sarah Ingram To Head Obamacare: "We Provided Horrible Customer Service" - Greg Hengler

b. During the period she was targeting Tea Party, pro-life, conservative Americans, she recieved $100,000 in bonuses.
IRS Official in Charge During Tea Party Targeting Now Runs Health Care Office - ABC News

c. "... staffers in the sinister-sounding Determinations Unit started singling out Tea Party applicants for 501(c)4 tax-exempt status in mid-2010, so that puts Ingram in charge of the broader division when the scandal began. " The IRS scandal: Is Sarah Hall Ingram the next head to roll? - The Week

3. So, she was in charge...but knew nothing about the profiling....so she gets bonuses and a promotion.
Inadequate, inept, incompetent: this is very important, as it is the theme, the explanation of the Obama administration for the scandals.






a. Earlier explanation: "... The growing scandal at the IRS stemmed from a confused staff and lax oversight, ... an IRS unit based in Cincinnati, the main office for handling tax-exempt organizations, that adopted “inappropriate criteria” for deciding which applications to examine, without any review by senior managers. The improper targeting continued for more than 18 months. ... applications for nonprofit status to languish for more than three years,... as staff in a Cincinnati field office struggled to cope with a flood of applications for tax exemptions ..." Report blames IRS scandal on lax oversight, confused staff - latimes.com


b. But..." We were told that conservatives “swamped” the IRS with nonprofit applications after the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United decision struck down some restrictions on political speech..... No, as the Atlantic’s Garance Franke-Ruta points out:
“[W]e saw a big increase in these kind of applications, many of which indicated that they were going to be involved in advocacy work,” Lerner said. But Todd Young, a Republican congressman from Indiana, pointed out at Friday’s House Ways and Means Committee hearing with former acting IRS commissioner Steve Miller and Treasury Inspector General J. Russell George that this was not the case, according to the very data the IRS provided to the Treasury IG’s office." IRS Defenders Are Still Relying on Debunked Claims « Commentary Magazine





4. So, if Big Government Liberalism is based on the necessity of same to arbitrate, to resolve the problems in society, to provide the path to justice, between the big and the small, the rich and the poor, and do so honestly and efficiently.....but the explanations of the scandals is based on these government agencies bungling, mishandling, and corruption....

....what leg does Liberalism have to stand on????


no owe denies this! Tawmmy has spoken. LOL
 
Never gonna skewer Liberalism with these folk. Liberalsim draws folks like these like flies to honey. Goes hand in hand with an inborn revulsion to something called 'work' which becomes gold in the hands of a master charlatan and demagogue like Obama. Just workin' that 47% of America that Mitt Romney alluded to like a master.

Welfare Queen: ?Who Would Want To Work In America? This Is What The Taxpayers Are Paying For?? | Weasel Zippers

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