Obama had us at near world peace. Trump taking us to war ..

[Dschrute3]

The Libyan people overthrew their dictator. We just have some air cover . No us troop was killed .

And isis doesn't control the place . Stop lying .

You dolt, the Libyan people had the highest standard of living in North Africa.

Sure, he was a murderous dictator, they all are.

So why did the US intervene taking Gadaffi out on the mere threat of killing off a bunch of his own people when in the Sudan they did just that without so much as a peep?

Any ideas genius?

Gaddafi refused to be a US Puppet. That was a death sentence for him. Most Americans really are lost sheep. They're completely duped and clueless. In all my years of observation, i've come to a sobering conclusion...

Anyone or any nation that refuses to be a US Puppet, will be marked for death. Anyone who dares to be independent, will be putting his or her life on the line. We're currently in an 'Empire-Building' phase. Those who won't go along, must be eliminated. But all Empires fall. It's why our Founding Fathers warned against 'Empire-Building.' We're already $20 Trillion in Debt and spread too thin. A day of reckoning is coming. Bet on that.

It gets worse, Obama attacked Gadaffi without even notifying Congress. I reckon Europe gave him his Nobel Peace Prize, so he owed them by doing their dirty work for them. Under the War Powers Act, Obama was required to notify Congress after so many days at war with Libya. His excuse for not notifying them was, it was not really a war.

Some Americans get it, but not nearly enough. The US Government will kill anyone who refuses to be a US Puppet. That's what it's all about in the end. This one's a 'Hitler, that one's a 'Hitler', and so on and so on. The assassinations and invasions roll on. But one day, the US will have to answer for this 'Empire-Building.' All Empires fall. The US won't be an exception.

They have to mold their new world order.

Those that don't play along will go bye, bye.

Yup.

 

[easyt65]

Snowflakes continue to prove 'dain bramaged' is not just a 'Hillary thing'.

 

[Correll]

If that was a show of power it was a pretty piss poor one.

It wasn't a show of power. It was a love tap signalling a warning. That's all.

Do you want increased involvement of Trump/US in Syria, or do you want to leave well enough alone?

Syria does not threaten us directly. The DPRK and Iran do.

Are you saying you want Trump to take stronger action in Korea?

If necessary, of course.

IMO, Korea is a mess that we have little leverage over and little responsibility for.


Despite my high opinion of Donald Trump I do not think he can magically solve issues that the last 60 years of Presidents have failed to solve and I support INACTION.


Those attacking him for not doing enough are pressuring him to try his hand dealing with a nuclear powder keg.


Yet they are generally those with the LOWEST opinion of his abilities.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

It wasn't a show of power. It was a love tap signalling a warning. That's all.

Do you want increased involvement of Trump/US in Syria, or do you want to leave well enough alone?

Syria does not threaten us directly. The DPRK and Iran do.

Are you saying you want Trump to take stronger action in Korea?

If necessary, of course.

IMO, Korea is a mess that we have little leverage over and little responsibility for.

Regardless, we must do what necessity presents us.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

As obama left the office in his wake was about as much world peace as we have seen maybe ever . Think about it. Sure their are some mostly civil war hot spots in the Mideast and parts of Africa , but overall there's no active warring countries .

Conservatives and Trump hate that . Their war machine masters do not approve . Just a few months in, they are already on the warpath .

A vote for the GOP is a vote for war .

There's no money in peace and all the 1% war profiteers care about is more money in their own pockets.

Obama worked for 8 years for peace and for economic recovery for the US middle class. That makes him the enemy.

The Repubs, RWNJs and drumpf have a common goal - wipe out the middle class. So far, everything he has done will cause harm to the middle class but put money in his 1% cronies and the Repubs won't stop him. Hell, that whiny little criminal Caffetz quit rather than be shredded by drumpf.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

As obama left the office in his wake was about as much world peace as we have seen maybe ever . Think about it. Sure their are some mostly civil war hot spots in the Mideast and parts of Africa , but overall there's no active warring countries .

Conservatives and Trump hate that . Their war machine masters do not approve . Just a few months in, they are already on the warpath .

A vote for the GOP is a vote for war .

There's no money in peace and all the 1% war profiteers care about is more money in their own pockets.

Obama worked for 8 years for peace and for economic recovery for the US middle class.

He failed, by some thinking intentionally.

 

[Oldstyle]

As obama left the office in his wake was about as much world peace as we have seen maybe ever . Think about it. Sure their are some mostly civil war hot spots in the Mideast and parts of Africa , but overall there's no active warring countries .

Conservatives and Trump hate that . Their war machine masters do not approve . Just a few months in, they are already on the warpath .

A vote for the GOP is a vote for war .

Are you smoking crack, Timmy? Obama left the Middle East in flames and Europe reeling from the massive refugee crisis that he engendered when he allowed ISIS to conquer major cities in Iraq! He's probably the worst President we've had in quite some time when it comes to foreign policy. He "led from behind" abdicating America's place as a leader in the world wide struggle for freedom. World peace? Wow...are you clueless!

 

[Correll]

Do you want increased involvement of Trump/US in Syria, or do you want to leave well enough alone?

Syria does not threaten us directly. The DPRK and Iran do.

Are you saying you want Trump to take stronger action in Korea?

If necessary, of course.

IMO, Korea is a mess that we have little leverage over and little responsibility for.

Regardless, we must do what necessity presents us.

No, we must not. If there is no path forward, that is not a high risk of being a nuclear bloodbath, then we can choose to do NOT GO FORWARD.

That leaves the possibility that it might blow up later. But then again it might not.


Maybe someday, China will develop into a more responsible nation, and stop protecting a madman who likes to play with nuclear weapons.

 

[Correll]

As obama left the office in his wake was about as much world peace as we have seen maybe ever . Think about it. Sure their are some mostly civil war hot spots in the Mideast and parts of Africa , but overall there's no active warring countries .

Conservatives and Trump hate that . Their war machine masters do not approve . Just a few months in, they are already on the warpath .

A vote for the GOP is a vote for war .

There's no money in peace and all the 1% war profiteers care about is more money in their own pockets.

Obama worked for 8 years for peace and for economic recovery for the US middle class. That makes him the enemy.

The Repubs, RWNJs and drumpf have a common goal - wipe out the middle class. So far, everything he has done will cause harm to the middle class but put money in his 1% cronies and the Repubs won't stop him. Hell, that whiny little criminal Caffetz quit rather than be shredded by drumpf.

So, you don't support this movement to attack Trump for not doing enough?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Syria does not threaten us directly. The DPRK and Iran do.

Are you saying you want Trump to take stronger action in Korea?

If necessary, of course.

IMO, Korea is a mess that we have little leverage over and little responsibility for.

Regardless, we must do what necessity presents us.

No, we must not. If there is no path forward, that is not a high risk of being a nuclear bloodbath, then we can choose to do NOT GO FORWARD.

That leaves the possibility that it might blow up later. But then again it might not.


Maybe someday, China will develop into a more responsible nation, and stop protecting a madman who likes to play with nuclear weapons.

I disagree. Given time, the DPRK will simply become more powerful and dangerous, presenting an even larger problem.

Perhaps China will take action, perhaps not.

 

[Weatherman2020]

As obama left the office in his wake was about as much world peace as we have seen maybe ever . Think about it. Sure their are some mostly civil war hot spots in the Mideast and parts of Africa , but overall there's no active warring countries .

Conservatives and Trump hate that . Their war machine masters do not approve . Just a few months in, they are already on the warpath .

A vote for the GOP is a vote for war .

Was that before or after Obama invaded two nations who we were not at war with and were no threat to the US?

What 2 ?

You admit you don't even know Obama started wars with two nations who were no threat to America and yet you post that kind of crap?

Who said the left were completely ignorant of the world around them? You spend all of your time in your safe zone bubble worlds.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Are you saying you want Trump to take stronger action in Korea?

If necessary, of course.

IMO, Korea is a mess that we have little leverage over and little responsibility for.

Regardless, we must do what necessity presents us.

No, we must not. If there is no path forward, that is not a high risk of being a nuclear bloodbath, then we can choose to do NOT GO FORWARD.

That leaves the possibility that it might blow up later. But then again it might not.


Maybe someday, China will develop into a more responsible nation, and stop protecting a madman who likes to play with nuclear weapons.

I disagree. Given time, the DPRK will simply become more powerful and dangerous, presenting an even larger problem.

Perhaps China will take action, perhaps not.

Simply draw a line between the threat DPRK posed in 1960 to the threat they pose today and only one conclusion is possible as to the larger looming threat they pose in the future.

Notice how the left were always anti-nuclear anything until evildoers like North Korea and Iran started playing with them?

 

[Correll]

Are you saying you want Trump to take stronger action in Korea?

If necessary, of course.

IMO, Korea is a mess that we have little leverage over and little responsibility for.

Regardless, we must do what necessity presents us.

No, we must not. If there is no path forward, that is not a high risk of being a nuclear bloodbath, then we can choose to do NOT GO FORWARD.

That leaves the possibility that it might blow up later. But then again it might not.


Maybe someday, China will develop into a more responsible nation, and stop protecting a madman who likes to play with nuclear weapons.

I disagree. Given time, the DPRK will simply become more powerful and dangerous, presenting an even larger problem.

Perhaps China will take action, perhaps not.

Become more powerful? Because it has such as growing economy? Because it's neighbors are declining while is it growing every larger?

LOL!!

We have no leverage. This is not our job to fix.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

If necessary, of course.

IMO, Korea is a mess that we have little leverage over and little responsibility for.

Regardless, we must do what necessity presents us.

No, we must not. If there is no path forward, that is not a high risk of being a nuclear bloodbath, then we can choose to do NOT GO FORWARD.

That leaves the possibility that it might blow up later. But then again it might not.


Maybe someday, China will develop into a more responsible nation, and stop protecting a madman who likes to play with nuclear weapons.

I disagree. Given time, the DPRK will simply become more powerful and dangerous, presenting an even larger problem.

Perhaps China will take action, perhaps not.

Become more powerful? Because it has such as growing economy? Because it's neighbors are declining while is it growing every larger?

LOL!!

We have no leverage. This is not our job to fix.

Because it will soon have ICBMs.

 

[Timmy]

As obama left the office in his wake was about as much world peace as we have seen maybe ever . Think about it. Sure their are some mostly civil war hot spots in the Mideast and parts of Africa , but overall there's no active warring countries .

Conservatives and Trump hate that . Their war machine masters do not approve . Just a few months in, they are already on the warpath .

A vote for the GOP is a vote for war .

Was that before or after Obama invaded two nations who we were not at war with and were no threat to the US?

What 2 ?

You admit you don't even know Obama started wars with two nations who were no threat to America and yet you post that kind of crap?

Who said the left were completely ignorant of the world around them? You spend all of your time in your safe zone bubble worlds.

He didn't start wars . The Libyan people revolted against the dictator. With or without obama.

 

[I amso IR]

Basically what i'm hearing from rabid Trump-Hater Democrats, is that he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He supposedly turns away the 'armada' and avoids all-out War, and they're bitterly angry about that. But if he engages in conflict with North Korea, they'll be bitterly angry about that too.

So, Democrats are simply full of shite in the end. They're just playing the old tired 'Party before Country' game. They just want the power back. And they're willing to say or do anything to get it back. They're gonna savagely attack Trump no matter what he does. They're very shallow hateful folks. It is what it is.

Trump didn't turn back the "armada". He never sent one in the first place.

So now Trump don't have three carrier groups headed for NK?




What do you think pretend military guy that ships can cover thousands of miles in a hour now?

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As we say in the Army, "it all depends on the situation and terrain." Now I have to admit that when it was announced the Carrier Group was still headed south on the other side of the equator, I began to feel somewhat uneasy. Some how that seems like unfavorable terrain and combine that with being south of the equator, perhaps not the best situation. I am not certain if a Carrier Group has a long range missile capability or not. How about it all you "anchor clankers" does a Carrier Group have a three thousand mile mlissile capability on any of it's ships or subs? If so, North Korea is no problem from south of the equator. If not, aw shucks! I do know this however, if you intend to engage a ground target with artillery and you are more than 25 miles from from that target, perhaps you should move a tad closer than 25 miles, when using a long range artillery battery such as the 8 inch gun. And then it would be nice to have Sneaky Pete close enough to lase or "paint" the target so the fuse can detect and guide the projectile to that target. Any thing less is outdated and soooo yesterday. Artillery saturation is costly and ineffective and precision is so much the big event. Collateral damage gives the press and liberal factions something to bitch about and raise hell about, like it really matters? Were it that important, there would be no war, anywhere. Just my Army mind unfolding here.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Basically what i'm hearing from rabid Trump-Hater Democrats, is that he's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. He supposedly turns away the 'armada' and avoids all-out War, and they're bitterly angry about that. But if he engages in conflict with North Korea, they'll be bitterly angry about that too.

So, Democrats are simply full of shite in the end. They're just playing the old tired 'Party before Country' game. They just want the power back. And they're willing to say or do anything to get it back. They're gonna savagely attack Trump no matter what he does. They're very shallow hateful folks. It is what it is.

Trump didn't turn back the "armada". He never sent one in the first place.

So now Trump don't have three carrier groups headed for NK?




What do you think pretend military guy that ships can cover thousands of miles in a hour now?

.

As we say in the Army, "it all depends on the situation and terrain." Now I have to admit that when it was announced the Carrier Group was still headed south on the other side of the equator, I began to feel somewhat uneasy. Some how that seems like unfavorable terrain and combine that with being south of the equator, perhaps not the best situation. I am not certain if a Carrier Group has a long range missile capability or not. How about it all you "anchor clankers" does a Carrier Group have a three thousand mile mlissile capability on any of it's ships or subs? If so, North Korea is no problem from south of the equator. If not, aw shucks! I do know this however, if you intend to engage a ground target with artillery and you are more than 25 miles from from that target, perhaps you should move a tad closer than 25 miles, when using a long range artillery battery such as the 8 inch gun. And then it would be nice to have Sneaky Pete close enough to lase or "paint" the target so the fuse can detect and guide the projectile to that target. Any thing less is outdated and soooo yesterday. Artillery saturation is costly and ineffective and precision is so much the big event. Collateral damage gives the press and liberal factions something to bitch about and raise hell about, like it really matters? Were it that important, there would be no war, anywhere. Just my Army mind unfolding here.

Sure alot of babbling to just say the obvious that the United States can hit and nuke any target on earth in seconds

 

[Wyatt earp]

As obama left the office in his wake was about as much world peace as we have seen maybe ever . Think about it. Sure their are some mostly civil war hot spots in the Mideast and parts of Africa , but overall there's no active warring countries .

Conservatives and Trump hate that . Their war machine masters do not approve . Just a few months in, they are already on the warpath .

A vote for the GOP is a vote for war .

Was that before or after Obama invaded two nations who we were not at war with and were no threat to the US?

What 2 ?

You admit you don't even know Obama started wars with two nations who were no threat to America and yet you post that kind of crap?

Who said the left were completely ignorant of the world around them? You spend all of your time in your safe zone bubble worlds.

He didn't start wars . The Libyan people revolted against the dictator. With or without obama.

Try again ..

tomahawk missile strike libya - Google Search

 

[Timmy]

As obama left the office in his wake was about as much world peace as we have seen maybe ever . Think about it. Sure their are some mostly civil war hot spots in the Mideast and parts of Africa , but overall there's no active warring countries .

Conservatives and Trump hate that . Their war machine masters do not approve . Just a few months in, they are already on the warpath .

A vote for the GOP is a vote for war .

Was that before or after Obama invaded two nations who we were not at war with and were no threat to the US?

What 2 ?

You admit you don't even know Obama started wars with two nations who were no threat to America and yet you post that kind of crap?

Who said the left were completely ignorant of the world around them? You spend all of your time in your safe zone bubble worlds.

He didn't start wars . The Libyan people revolted against the dictator. With or without obama.

Try again ..

tomahawk missile strike libya - Google Search

And ??? Like I said , air coverage for the rebels .

 

[Wyatt earp]

Was that before or after Obama invaded two nations who we were not at war with and were no threat to the US?

What 2 ?

You admit you don't even know Obama started wars with two nations who were no threat to America and yet you post that kind of crap?

Who said the left were completely ignorant of the world around them? You spend all of your time in your safe zone bubble worlds.

He didn't start wars . The Libyan people revolted against the dictator. With or without obama.

Try again ..

tomahawk missile strike libya - Google Search

And ??? Like I said , air coverage for the rebels .

This is a joke right?