Obama: US arms could help defeat Assad is 'fantasy'

[Bleipriester]

President Obama has dismissed the idea that supplying US arms to Syrian rebels would have toppled President Assad, calling it a "fantasy".
His comments came in a CBS interview when he was asked if a power vacuum had been created in the Middle East which was fuelling violence in Iraq.
He said there was no "ready-made moderate Syrian force that was able to defeat Assad".
BBC News - Obama: US arms could help defeat Assad is 'fantasy'

Now you all get it directly from President Obama

 

[Bleipriester]

Discuss it...

 

[Politico]

Discuss what? That the rebels in Syria are the ones that have taken over Iraq? We already know that.

 

[Bleipriester]

Discuss what? That the rebels in Syria are the ones that have taken over Iraq? We already know that.

No. I mean the fact that there was never a moderate force that was able to take over Syria.

 

[Sunni Man]

Obama is flat out lying. ..

The first Syrian people to rise up against the Assad regime and get organized was the FSA (Free Syrian Army).

It was grass roots rebellion composted of average citizens who wanted to oust Assad and transform Syria into a secular democracy.

They made great progress in the first 2 years with the lite weapons they possessed. But Assad's tanks and jet planes were difficult to defeat and the FSA started to lose ground.

The FSA begged the Obama administration for heavier weapons to defeat Assad's formidable military but were turned down repeatedly.

Once the FSA started losing most of the battles and Assad's army advanced. That's when Jihadist's from around the world started to arrive and took control of the rebellion.

 

[Camp]

Obama is flat out lying. ..

The first Syrian people to rise up against the Assad regime and get organized was the FSA (Free Syrian Army).

It was grass roots rebellion composted of average citizens who wanted to oust Assad and transform Syria into a secular democracy.

They made great progress in the first 2 years with the lite weapons they possessed. But Assad's tanks and jet planes were difficult to defeat and the FSA started to lose ground.

The FSA begged the Obama administration for heavier weapons to defeat Assad's formidable military but were turned down repeatedly.

Once the FSA started losing most of the battles and Assad's army advanced. That's when Jihadist's from around the world started to arrive and took control of the rebellion.

The FSA begged everyone and anyone for heavy weapons. No one wanted to help them. Why would it be the USA's job or obligation to ignore the wishes of all the Muslim countries in the region that advised against supplying those heavy weapons? What made it Obama's decision over the decision of all the Muslim countries who could have stepped up to the plate? The answer is simple. Blame Obama and distract and deflect away from the Muslim countries who ignored their responsibilities.

 

[Sunni Man]

The FSA begged everyone and anyone for heavy weapons. No one wanted to help them. Why would it be the USA's job or obligation to ignore the wishes of all the Muslim countries in the region that advised against supplying those heavy weapons? What made it Obama's decision over the decision of all the Muslim countries who could have stepped up to the plate? The answer is simple. Blame Obama and distract and deflect away from the Muslim countries who ignored their responsibilities.

Simple answer.

Most of the muslim countries receive financial aid and their weapons from the U.S. Government and needed permission to transfer those weapons to the Syrian freedom fighters.

Pres. Obama never gave the nod and the muslim countries were forced to just stand back and watch the carnage take place. ..

 

[Bleipriester]

Obama is flat out lying. ..

The first Syrian people to rise up against the Assad regime and get organized was the FSA (Free Syrian Army).

It was grass roots rebellion composted of average citizens who wanted to oust Assad and transform Syria into a secular democracy.

They made great progress in the first 2 years with the lite weapons they possessed. But Assad's tanks and jet planes were difficult to defeat and the FSA started to lose ground.

The FSA begged the Obama administration for heavier weapons to defeat Assad's formidable military but were turned down repeatedly.

Once the FSA started losing most of the battles and Assad's army advanced. That's when Jihadist's from around the world started to arrive and took control of the rebellion.

That´s not exactly what happened. Syria was almost taken by surprise by an army that seemed to appear from nothing, just like it happened in Libya. Once the SAA, fragmented and shocked, got back to an organized and coordinated action, it started lead its trumps, able to rebuff the final advance of the FSA under terrible conditions.

What Obama says is that there was no secular resistance against Assad, pointing out that even moderate forces (moderate = Non-jihadist Islamist) were not (were not = not even moderate powers exist anymore) able to take over Syria.
The side of Assad is the secular side, hell breaks out, if Assad falls.

The FSA joined a coalition of terror as it saw that is has no to little support of the Syrian population (also due to its extremist nature) and proved that it is nothing but a bunch of Islamist terrorists looting the country.

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[Sunni Man]

Obama is flat out lying. ..

The first Syrian people to rise up against the Assad regime and get organized was the FSA (Free Syrian Army).

It was grass roots rebellion composted of average citizens who wanted to oust Assad and transform Syria into a secular democracy.

They made great progress in the first 2 years with the lite weapons they possessed. But Assad's tanks and jet planes were difficult to defeat and the FSA started to lose ground.

The FSA begged the Obama administration for heavier weapons to defeat Assad's formidable military but were turned down repeatedly.

Once the FSA started losing most of the battles and Assad's army advanced. That's when Jihadist's from around the world started to arrive and took control of the rebellion.

That´s not exactly what happened. Syria was almost taken by surprise by an army that seemed to appear from nothing, just like it happened in Libya. Once the SAA, fragmented and shocked, got back to an organized and coordinated action, it started lead its trumps, able to rebuff the final advance of the FSA under terrible conditions.

What Obama says is that there was no secular resistance against Assad, pointing out that even moderate forces (moderate = Non-jihadist Islamist) were not (were not = not even moderate powers exist anymore) able to take over Syria.
The side of Assad is the secular side, hell breaks out, if Assad falls.

The FSA joined a coalition of terror as it saw that is has no to little support of the Syrian population (also due to its extremist nature) and proved that it is nothing but a bunch of Islamist terrorists looting the country.

Both you and Obama are wrong.

The FSA was a grass roots organization dedicated to deposing Assad and installing a secular Democratic government. ..

 

[Bleipriester]

Obama is flat out lying. ..

The first Syrian people to rise up against the Assad regime and get organized was the FSA (Free Syrian Army).

It was grass roots rebellion composted of average citizens who wanted to oust Assad and transform Syria into a secular democracy.

They made great progress in the first 2 years with the lite weapons they possessed. But Assad's tanks and jet planes were difficult to defeat and the FSA started to lose ground.

The FSA begged the Obama administration for heavier weapons to defeat Assad's formidable military but were turned down repeatedly.

Once the FSA started losing most of the battles and Assad's army advanced. That's when Jihadist's from around the world started to arrive and took control of the rebellion.

That´s not exactly what happened. Syria was almost taken by surprise by an army that seemed to appear from nothing, just like it happened in Libya. Once the SAA, fragmented and shocked, got back to an organized and coordinated action, it started lead its trumps, able to rebuff the final advance of the FSA under terrible conditions.

What Obama says is that there was no secular resistance against Assad, pointing out that even moderate forces (moderate = Non-jihadist Islamist) were not (were not = not even moderate powers exist anymore) able to take over Syria.
The side of Assad is the secular side, hell breaks out, if Assad falls.

The FSA joined a coalition of terror as it saw that is has no to little support of the Syrian population (also due to its extremist nature) and proved that it is nothing but a bunch of Islamist terrorists looting the country.

Both you and Obama are wrong.

The FSA was a grass roots organization dedicated to deposing Assad and installing a secular Democratic government. ..

Maybe it lacked of secular people and became an Islamist terror group over the frustration

 

[jon_berzerk]

Obama: US arms could help defeat Assad

and help to bring on the new caliphate

 

[Camp]

The FSA begged everyone and anyone for heavy weapons. No one wanted to help them. Why would it be the USA's job or obligation to ignore the wishes of all the Muslim countries in the region that advised against supplying those heavy weapons? What made it Obama's decision over the decision of all the Muslim countries who could have stepped up to the plate? The answer is simple. Blame Obama and distract and deflect away from the Muslim countries who ignored their responsibilities.

Simple answer.

Most of the muslim countries receive financial aid and their weapons from the U.S. Government and needed permission to transfer those weapons to the Syrian freedom fighters.

Pres. Obama never gave the nod and the muslim countries were forced to just stand back and watch the carnage take place. ..

Please, those rich countries could have gotten weapons legit or black market from all over the world.

 

[Sunni Man]

That´s not exactly what happened. Syria was almost taken by surprise by an army that seemed to appear from nothing, just like it happened in Libya. Once the SAA, fragmented and shocked, got back to an organized and coordinated action, it started lead its trumps, able to rebuff the final advance of the FSA under terrible conditions.

What Obama says is that there was no secular resistance against Assad, pointing out that even moderate forces (moderate = Non-jihadist Islamist) were not (were not = not even moderate powers exist anymore) able to take over Syria.
The side of Assad is the secular side, hell breaks out, if Assad falls.

The FSA joined a coalition of terror as it saw that is has no to little support of the Syrian population (also due to its extremist nature) and proved that it is nothing but a bunch of Islamist terrorists looting the country.

Both you and Obama are wrong.

The FSA was a grass roots organization dedicated to deposing Assad and installing a secular Democratic government. ..

Maybe it lacked of secular people and became an Islamist terror group over the frustration

When the FSA started loosing is when the foreign Jihadist entered Syria to fight against Assad's military.

At first the FSA and the Jihadists fought running battles over who was going to lead the insurrection.

But the FSA was already weakened from the years of fighting Assad's forces and were no match against the increasing numbers of the foreign Jihadists.

Eventually the remaining FSA were forced to link with the Jihadists who had better weapons and funding. ..

 

[Bleipriester]

Both you and Obama are wrong.

The FSA was a grass roots organization dedicated to deposing Assad and installing a secular Democratic government. ..

Maybe it lacked of secular people and became an Islamist terror group over the frustration

When the FSA started loosing is when the foreign Jihadist entered Syria to fight against Assad's military.

At first the FSA and the Jihadists fought running battles over who was going to lead the insurrection.

But the FSA was already weakened from the years of fighting Assad's forces and were no match against the increasing numbers of the foreign Jihadists.

Eventually the remaining FSA were forced to link with the Jihadists who had better weapons and funding. ..

Surely, the FSA was supported by jihadists as much it was battled by jihadists but the crucial factor that turned the fortunes of war in favor of the Syrian government is the decision of the Syrian people to support President Assad and the SAA.

 

[Mr. H.]

Discuss it...

Much as I hate that bastard, I would tend to agree with his assessment.

 

[Bleipriester]

Discuss it...

Much as I hate that bastard, I would tend to agree with his assessment.

This time he´s right. I would go a step further and say that there is no need to topple Assad.

 

[Sunni Man]

Surely, the FSA was supported by jihadists as much it was battled by jihadists but the crucial factor that turned the fortunes of war in favor of the Syrian government is the decision of the Syrian people to support President Assad and the SAA.

The only Syrian people who are supporting Assad are the Alawite's and the small Christian minority.

Sunni's compose about 90% of Syrian citizens and would never support Assad and the SAA.

They hated Assad's brutal dictator father and they also hate his son with a passion. ..

 

[Bleipriester]

Surely, the FSA was supported by jihadists as much it was battled by jihadists but the crucial factor that turned the fortunes of war in favor of the Syrian government is the decision of the Syrian people to support President Assad and the SAA.

The only Syrian people who are supporting Assad are the Alawite's and the small Christian minority.

Sunni's compose about 90% of Syrian citizens and would never support Assad and the SAA.

They hated Assad's brutal dictator father and they also hate his son with a passion. ..

You know that this is nonsense. Most people declared as Sunni or Alawite or whatever, are modern people who want a modern life free from religious constraints. And this is for what Assad is bail for.

 

[Sunni Man]

Surely, the FSA was supported by jihadists as much it was battled by jihadists but the crucial factor that turned the fortunes of war in favor of the Syrian government is the decision of the Syrian people to support President Assad and the SAA.

The only Syrian people who are supporting Assad are the Alawite's and the small Christian minority.

Sunni's compose about 90% of Syrian citizens and would never support Assad and the SAA.

They hated Assad's brutal dictator father and they also hate his son with a passion. ..

You know that this is nonsense. Most people declared as Sunni or Alawite or whatever, are modern people who want a modern life free from religious constraints. And this is for what Assad is bail for.

Obviously, you don't know any Syrian people. They are religious and proud of their Islamic heritage.

You really need to read the history of the Assad family and their brutal rein of terror on the Syrian people.

Assad is a member of the Baath Party (same as Saddam was) and is an Alawite.

Alawites are not muslims and the Sunni people hate being ruled by them. ..

 

[Bleipriester]

The only Syrian people who are supporting Assad are the Alawite's and the small Christian minority.

Sunni's compose about 90% of Syrian citizens and would never support Assad and the SAA.

They hated Assad's brutal dictator father and they also hate his son with a passion. ..

You know that this is nonsense. Most people declared as Sunni or Alawite or whatever, are modern people who want a modern life free from religious constraints. And this is for what Assad is bail for.

Obviously, you don't know any Syrian people. They are religious and proud of their Islamic heritage.

You really need to read the history of the Assad family and their brutal rein of terror on the Syrian people.

Assad is a member of the Baath Party (same as Saddam was) and is an Alawite.

Alawites are not muslims and the Sunni people hate being ruled by them. ..