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The conversion of buildings to temp hospitals, and the likely triage that will eventually come with that, given our lack of sufficient supplies.So what begins?
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The conversion of buildings to temp hospitals, and the likely triage that will eventually come with that, given our lack of sufficient supplies.So what begins?
As usual, your very fragile ego is leading you to post more and more ridiculous claims. Your posts are irrelevant to the the conversation about comparing the severity of the outbreak between two countries.Yes I know, and what you said was stupid and wrong. The virus isn't sprinkled evenly across the country from outer space.The conversation was about comparing the numbers between two countries
Translation: has no counter, now realizes his stupid error thanks to having it spelled out for him, now it's hissy timeAs usual, your very fragile ego is leading you to post more and more ridiculous claims.
As is usual, the only thing you have explained is that you have no idea what you are talking about.Translation: has no counter, now realizes his stupid error thanks to having it spelled out for him, now it's hissy timeAs usual, your very fragile ego is leading you to post more and more ridiculous claims.
Enjoy your hissy fit.As is usual, the only thing you have explained is that you have no idea what you are talking about.Translation: has no counter, now realizes his stupid error thanks to having it spelled out for him, now it's hissy timeAs usual, your very fragile ego is leading you to post more and more ridiculous claims.
So now you are explaining that you don't know what a hissy fit is either.Enjoy your hissy fit.As is usual, the only thing you have explained is that you have no idea what you are talking about.Translation: has no counter, now realizes his stupid error thanks to having it spelled out for him, now it's hissy timeAs usual, your very fragile ego is leading you to post more and more ridiculous claims.
Yes, cry it all out.So now you are explaining that you don't know what a hissy fit is either.Enjoy your hissy fit.As is usual, the only thing you have explained is that you have no idea what you are talking about.Translation: has no counter, now realizes his stupid error thanks to having it spelled out for him, now it's hissy timeAs usual, your very fragile ego is leading you to post more and more ridiculous claims.
Try to pay attention. The conversation was about comparing the numbers between two countries, Iran and the US and the numbers are meaningless in that regard without also looking at the size of the populations in those two countries. To compare how bad the outbreak is the relevant statistics are infections per capita or deaths per capita, etc.No. Again, that is stupid and wrong.Comparing the number of cases without reference the size of the population is meaningless.
If you were to plot expected cases based on R0, or try to determine R0 from the data on the number of cases, at no point would you need the population number of the country.
You are mistaken. Iran reported its first confirmed case of covid19 on Feb. 20 and the US reported its first confirmed case on Jan 20 so the US has had it longer than Iran. The same is true of Italy. The reason the US is doing so much better than these other countries is that ten days after the first case was identified in the US, President Trump banned travel from China and other countries with high infection rates and to this day neither the EU nor Iran has taken such action.
Soon, AMERICA FIRST?Try to pay attention. The conversation was about comparing the numbers between two countries, Iran and the US and the numbers are meaningless in that regard without also looking at the size of the populations in those two countries. To compare how bad the outbreak is the relevant statistics are infections per capita or deaths per capita, etc.No. Again, that is stupid and wrong.Comparing the number of cases without reference the size of the population is meaningless.
If you were to plot expected cases based on R0, or try to determine R0 from the data on the number of cases, at no point would you need the population number of the country.
Now you're talking about TIME, and that's logical-- RATES in a given period. To that end, a quick glance at the latest stats shows the US has reported five times more cases in the last 24h period that Iran has, and our proportion of the population infected is now 73, compared to Iran's which is 245, But the TIME factor reminds us that just a week ago that number of 73 was SIX, so it's grown more than twelvefold. In a week.
As a matter of perspective, not only have we accrued infection numbers well past Iran's but we've eclipsed Germany as well and are barely behind Spain. The only countries above there are China and Italy. A week ago (or whatever period you like, a day, a fortnight etc) we were nowhere near that position.
Soon, AMERICA FIRST?Try to pay attention. The conversation was about comparing the numbers between two countries, Iran and the US and the numbers are meaningless in that regard without also looking at the size of the populations in those two countries. To compare how bad the outbreak is the relevant statistics are infections per capita or deaths per capita, etc.No. Again, that is stupid and wrong.Comparing the number of cases without reference the size of the population is meaningless.
If you were to plot expected cases based on R0, or try to determine R0 from the data on the number of cases, at no point would you need the population number of the country.
Now you're talking about TIME, and that's logical-- RATES in a given period. To that end, a quick glance at the latest stats shows the US has reported five times more cases in the last 24h period that Iran has, and our proportion of the population infected is now 73, compared to Iran's which is 245, But the TIME factor reminds us that just a week ago that number of 73 was SIX, so it's grown more than twelvefold. In a week.
As a matter of perspective, not only have we accrued infection numbers well past Iran's but we've eclipsed Germany as well and are barely behind Spain. The only countries above there are China and Italy. A week ago (or whatever period you like, a day, a fortnight etc) we were nowhere near that position.
Basically, this is what has happened. In 2009, we beat the swine flu as the pandemic spread, but we knew we had it right away and was able to develop a vaccine for it.
Fast forward to 2020, the COVID-19 virus is beating us. It mutated so we do not know we have it right away and pass it along. The only way we know we have it is by testing. Also, it can be passed along easier. It has mutated so we can't develop a vaccine against it easily. It wants to kills us; it is the predator now. Thus, it may spread to your lungs via pneumonia or ARDS. That can kill at any age. Moreover, you can get it a second time even after you've recovered. If it fails to kill you the first time, then it can try again. Moreover, if you get sick then there aren't enough beds. You may just die in the halls.
You never will know how many were tested they’re not tracking it what a failureBut as libs keep pointing out the US has tested very few peopleIn an "abundance of caution" L.A. County just shut down close to 95% of all economic activity. All that remains open are grocery stores, pharmacies, financial institutions, caregivers, mail services and restaurants serving takeout and delivery orders, among others.
189 deaths in three months within a population of 327 million. That's the approximate death rate for common cold complications in the sick and elderly.
Is the cure worse than the disease? You damn betcha.
Actually Dimbulb, it's 218 deaths, but of course by the time this post goes up it will likely increase again. Number two, you don't compare a selective death rate with the entire population ---- you compare it with the number actually infected. Can't very well suffer from an infection you don't have, now can you?
And number three, so far today there are two countries in the world reporting more than five thousand new cases within the last 24 hours. One of them is Italy. The other one is US.
Back in your hole now.
so logically many more have the chinese virus that we dont know about
which makes the death rate lower
Testing is still catching up with actual infections, yes, no doubt.
The death rate hasn't been established yet. We don't know that until it's all over. For that matter we don't know how many got infected until then either.
I'm not talking about time. You are as you continue to search for ways to attack the US regardless of the facts. I'm talking about the number of infections and deaths per capita.Try to pay attention. The conversation was about comparing the numbers between two countries, Iran and the US and the numbers are meaningless in that regard without also looking at the size of the populations in those two countries. To compare how bad the outbreak is the relevant statistics are infections per capita or deaths per capita, etc.No. Again, that is stupid and wrong.Comparing the number of cases without reference the size of the population is meaningless.
If you were to plot expected cases based on R0, or try to determine R0 from the data on the number of cases, at no point would you need the population number of the country.
Now you're talking about TIME, and that's logical-- RATES in a given period. To that end, a quick glance at the latest stats shows the US has reported five times more cases in the last 24h period that Iran has, and our proportion of the population infected is now 73, compared to Iran's which is 245, But the TIME factor reminds us that just a week ago that number of 73 was SIX, so it's grown more than twelvefold. In a week.
As a matter of perspective, not only have we accrued infection numbers well past Iran's but we've eclipsed Germany as well and are barely behind Spain. The only countries above there are China and Italy. A week ago (or whatever period you like, a day, a fortnight etc) we were nowhere near that position.
Try to pay attention. The conversation was about comparing the numbers between two countries, Iran and the US and the numbers are meaningless in that regard without also looking at the size of the populations in those two countries. To compare how bad the outbreak is the relevant statistics are infections per capita or deaths per capita, etc.No. Again, that is stupid and wrong.Comparing the number of cases without reference the size of the population is meaningless.
If you were to plot expected cases based on R0, or try to determine R0 from the data on the number of cases, at no point would you need the population number of the country.
Now you're talking about TIME, and that's logical-- RATES in a given period. To that end, a quick glance at the latest stats shows the US has reported five times more cases in the last 24h period that Iran has, and our proportion of the population infected is now 73, compared to Iran's which is 245, But the TIME factor reminds us that just a week ago that number of 73 was SIX, so it's grown more than twelvefold. In a week.
As a matter of perspective, not only have we accrued infection numbers well past Iran's but we've eclipsed Germany as well and are barely behind Spain. The only countries above there are China and Italy. A week ago (or whatever period you like, a day, a fortnight etc) we were nowhere near that position.
I'm not talking about time. You are as you continue to search for ways to attack the US regardless of the facts. I'm talking about the number of infections and deaths per capita.
So Iran has 19 deaths per 1 million people and the US has 0.9 deaths per 1 million people. To any rational, reasonable person that means you are more than twenty times more likely to die from covid19 in Iran than you are in the US.
Similarly, Iran has 252 confirmed cases of infection per 1 million people while the US has only 73.8 cases per 1 million people, meaning you have 3 1/2 times the likelihood of being infected if you live in Iran.
It is just brain dead stupid to claim things are going better in Iran than the US.
Excellanr link, Excalibur. Thanks. It's good to see Ms. Rion take charge of the lying liars of the press who corroborate the Chinese, Russian, and Iranian false narratives.