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Official Coronavirus Thread - Up to the minute Coronavirus map and count.

The conversation was about comparing the numbers between two countries
Yes I know, and what you said was stupid and wrong. The virus isn't sprinkled evenly across the country from outer space.
As usual, your very fragile ego is leading you to post more and more ridiculous claims. Your posts are irrelevant to the the conversation about comparing the severity of the outbreak between two countries.
 
As usual, your very fragile ego is leading you to post more and more ridiculous claims.
Translation: has no counter, now realizes his stupid error thanks to having it spelled out for him, now it's hissy time
As is usual, the only thing you have explained is that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Enjoy your hissy fit.
So now you are explaining that you don't know what a hissy fit is either.
 
As usual, your very fragile ego is leading you to post more and more ridiculous claims.
Translation: has no counter, now realizes his stupid error thanks to having it spelled out for him, now it's hissy time
As is usual, the only thing you have explained is that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Enjoy your hissy fit.
So now you are explaining that you don't know what a hissy fit is either.
Yes, cry it all out.
 
Comparing the number of cases without reference the size of the population is meaningless.
No. Again, that is stupid and wrong.

If you were to plot expected cases based on R0, or try to determine R0 from the data on the number of cases, at no point would you need the population number of the country.
Try to pay attention. The conversation was about comparing the numbers between two countries, Iran and the US and the numbers are meaningless in that regard without also looking at the size of the populations in those two countries. To compare how bad the outbreak is the relevant statistics are infections per capita or deaths per capita, etc.

Now you're talking about TIME, and that's logical-- RATES in a given period. To that end, a quick glance at the latest stats shows the US has reported five times more cases in the last 24h period that Iran has, and our proportion of the population infected is now 73, compared to Iran's which is 245, But the TIME factor reminds us that just a week ago that number of 73 was SIX, so it's grown more than twelvefold. In a week.

As a matter of perspective, not only have we accrued infection numbers well past Iran's but we've eclipsed Germany as well and are barely behind Spain. The only countries above there are China and Italy. A week ago (or whatever period you like, a day, a fortnight etc) we were nowhere near that position.
 
You are mistaken. Iran reported its first confirmed case of covid19 on Feb. 20 and the US reported its first confirmed case on Jan 20 so the US has had it longer than Iran. The same is true of Italy. The reason the US is doing so much better than these other countries is that ten days after the first case was identified in the US, President Trump banned travel from China and other countries with high infection rates and to this day neither the EU nor Iran has taken such action.

And just to follow up on this above, the first domestic infection reported in the US was the lady in California on February 26.
 
Comparing the number of cases without reference the size of the population is meaningless.
No. Again, that is stupid and wrong.

If you were to plot expected cases based on R0, or try to determine R0 from the data on the number of cases, at no point would you need the population number of the country.
Try to pay attention. The conversation was about comparing the numbers between two countries, Iran and the US and the numbers are meaningless in that regard without also looking at the size of the populations in those two countries. To compare how bad the outbreak is the relevant statistics are infections per capita or deaths per capita, etc.

Now you're talking about TIME, and that's logical-- RATES in a given period. To that end, a quick glance at the latest stats shows the US has reported five times more cases in the last 24h period that Iran has, and our proportion of the population infected is now 73, compared to Iran's which is 245, But the TIME factor reminds us that just a week ago that number of 73 was SIX, so it's grown more than twelvefold. In a week.

As a matter of perspective, not only have we accrued infection numbers well past Iran's but we've eclipsed Germany as well and are barely behind Spain. The only countries above there are China and Italy. A week ago (or whatever period you like, a day, a fortnight etc) we were nowhere near that position.
Soon, AMERICA FIRST?
 
Comparing the number of cases without reference the size of the population is meaningless.
No. Again, that is stupid and wrong.

If you were to plot expected cases based on R0, or try to determine R0 from the data on the number of cases, at no point would you need the population number of the country.
Try to pay attention. The conversation was about comparing the numbers between two countries, Iran and the US and the numbers are meaningless in that regard without also looking at the size of the populations in those two countries. To compare how bad the outbreak is the relevant statistics are infections per capita or deaths per capita, etc.

Now you're talking about TIME, and that's logical-- RATES in a given period. To that end, a quick glance at the latest stats shows the US has reported five times more cases in the last 24h period that Iran has, and our proportion of the population infected is now 73, compared to Iran's which is 245, But the TIME factor reminds us that just a week ago that number of 73 was SIX, so it's grown more than twelvefold. In a week.

As a matter of perspective, not only have we accrued infection numbers well past Iran's but we've eclipsed Germany as well and are barely behind Spain. The only countries above there are China and Italy. A week ago (or whatever period you like, a day, a fortnight etc) we were nowhere near that position.
Soon, AMERICA FIRST?

WE'RE NUMBER FOUR! WE'RE NUMBER FOUR!
 


Basically, this is what has happened. In 2009, we beat the swine flu as the pandemic spread, but we knew we had it right away and was able to develop a vaccine for it.

Fast forward to 2020, the COVID-19 virus is beating us. It mutated so we do not know we have it right away and pass it along. The only way we know we have it is by testing. Also, it can be passed along easier. It has mutated so we can't develop a vaccine against it easily. It wants to kills us; it is the predator now. Thus, it may spread to your lungs via pneumonia or ARDS. That can kill at any age. Moreover, you can get it a second time even after you've recovered. If it fails to kill you the first time, then it can try again. Moreover, if you get sick then there aren't enough beds. You may just die in the halls.

What an idiot
 
In an "abundance of caution" L.A. County just shut down close to 95% of all economic activity. All that remains open are grocery stores, pharmacies, financial institutions, caregivers, mail services and restaurants serving takeout and delivery orders, among others.

189 deaths in three months within a population of 327 million. That's the approximate death rate for common cold complications in the sick and elderly.

Is the cure worse than the disease? You damn betcha.

Actually Dimbulb, it's 218 deaths, but of course by the time this post goes up it will likely increase again. Number two, you don't compare a selective death rate with the entire population ---- you compare it with the number actually infected. Can't very well suffer from an infection you don't have, now can you?

And number three, so far today there are two countries in the world reporting more than five thousand new cases within the last 24 hours. One of them is Italy. The other one is US.

Back in your hole now.
But as libs keep pointing out the US has tested very few people

so logically many more have the chinese virus that we dont know about

which makes the death rate lower

Testing is still catching up with actual infections, yes, no doubt.

The death rate hasn't been established yet. We don't know that until it's all over. For that matter we don't know how many got infected until then either.
You never will know how many were tested they’re not tracking it what a failure
 
Comparing the number of cases without reference the size of the population is meaningless.
No. Again, that is stupid and wrong.

If you were to plot expected cases based on R0, or try to determine R0 from the data on the number of cases, at no point would you need the population number of the country.
Try to pay attention. The conversation was about comparing the numbers between two countries, Iran and the US and the numbers are meaningless in that regard without also looking at the size of the populations in those two countries. To compare how bad the outbreak is the relevant statistics are infections per capita or deaths per capita, etc.

Now you're talking about TIME, and that's logical-- RATES in a given period. To that end, a quick glance at the latest stats shows the US has reported five times more cases in the last 24h period that Iran has, and our proportion of the population infected is now 73, compared to Iran's which is 245, But the TIME factor reminds us that just a week ago that number of 73 was SIX, so it's grown more than twelvefold. In a week.

As a matter of perspective, not only have we accrued infection numbers well past Iran's but we've eclipsed Germany as well and are barely behind Spain. The only countries above there are China and Italy. A week ago (or whatever period you like, a day, a fortnight etc) we were nowhere near that position.
I'm not talking about time. You are as you continue to search for ways to attack the US regardless of the facts. I'm talking about the number of infections and deaths per capita.

So Iran has 19 deaths per 1 million people and the US has 0.9 deaths per 1 million people. To any rational, reasonable person that means you are more than twenty times more likely to die from covid19 in Iran than you are in the US.

Similarly, Iran has 252 confirmed cases of infection per 1 million people while the US has only 73.8 cases per 1 million people, meaning you have 3 1/2 times the likelihood of being infected if you live in Iran.

It is just brain dead stupid to claim things are going better in Iran than the US.

Coronavirus Updates (COVID-19) Deaths & Cases per Population | RealClearPolitics
 
Comparing the number of cases without reference the size of the population is meaningless.
No. Again, that is stupid and wrong.

If you were to plot expected cases based on R0, or try to determine R0 from the data on the number of cases, at no point would you need the population number of the country.
Try to pay attention. The conversation was about comparing the numbers between two countries, Iran and the US and the numbers are meaningless in that regard without also looking at the size of the populations in those two countries. To compare how bad the outbreak is the relevant statistics are infections per capita or deaths per capita, etc.

Now you're talking about TIME, and that's logical-- RATES in a given period. To that end, a quick glance at the latest stats shows the US has reported five times more cases in the last 24h period that Iran has, and our proportion of the population infected is now 73, compared to Iran's which is 245, But the TIME factor reminds us that just a week ago that number of 73 was SIX, so it's grown more than twelvefold. In a week.

As a matter of perspective, not only have we accrued infection numbers well past Iran's but we've eclipsed Germany as well and are barely behind Spain. The only countries above there are China and Italy. A week ago (or whatever period you like, a day, a fortnight etc) we were nowhere near that position.


I'm not talking about time. You are as you continue to search for ways to attack the US regardless of the facts. I'm talking about the number of infections and deaths per capita.

Once AGAIN ---- you can't do that without taking TIME into account. That has not changed since last night. Coronavirus can incubate for 24 days; that means it takes TIME for that number of recoveries to establish. That's why Iran, China, Germany, all those countries including Italy, have more recoveries than they do infections. Because they've had more time.


So Iran has 19 deaths per 1 million people and the US has 0.9 deaths per 1 million people. To any rational, reasonable person that means you are more than twenty times more likely to die from covid19 in Iran than you are in the US.

NO, it doesn't mean that at all because WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THOSE NUMBERS YET. In EITHER country. There you go again with the Apples and Brake Cylinders comparison. It was bullshit last night and it remains bullshit today.

And why don't we know those numbers yet? All together now ---- TIME.


Similarly, Iran has 252 confirmed cases of infection per 1 million people while the US has only 73.8 cases per 1 million people, meaning you have 3 1/2 times the likelihood of being infected if you live in Iran.

Actually 245/73. This is again where TIME comes in. Our woefully-late testing operations are still catching up with infections already out there. We don't actually know how many infections we have --- what we know is how many we've identified. So AGAIN we don't know what that true number is, what we do know is as it approaches an accurate figure it's going up exponentially. In, again, the last 24h we have more reported cases than any country in the world except Italy. And there it is again --- TIME.


It is just brain dead stupid to claim things are going better in Iran than the US.

That's why I don't do it. Maybe you shouldn't either.
 
All these places are getting big bucks for faking and lying about LONG LINES it's bs

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