Official USMB Shutdown Showdown Thread --- Jan 10th, 2019

[EverCurious]

Congress critters don't get to vote their asses back into those chairs. We the people do, and the left is losing this one in the eyes of the people.

 

[Correll]

And the Senate will shut it down. Then what?

Great. Then the Anerican people will see clearly that it is the Republicans and their president who, when given an opportunity, decided to continue the pain.

It's only a matter of time until the shutdown is untenable for Republicans.

The dems shove give him 30 billion and tell him to build the Wall from coast to coast like he promised.

Why?

A majority of Congress are against the shutdown.

Trump is losing. Bigly.

Because controlling who and what enters a nation is the most basic function of government.


ONly an enemy of the nation could be against it.


It would be good for the nation and it's citizens to build the Wall.


That is why they should do it.


You are putting partisan gain ahead of that, to your shame.

No, at this point, a majority in congress are against it. It is the Republicans who are now playing politics. I dare McConnell to hold a vote. I doubt they would vote it down.

Not sure how anything you said related to anything I said.


You asked why I thought the dems should shove 30 billion dollars down Trump's pie hole,

and I pointed out how controlling who and want enters the country is good for America.


YOur response is to discuss partisan politics.


You are putting partisan politics ahead of what is good for our nation, to your shame.


Shame on you.

 

[gipper]

Did you know clean water was everywhere BEFORE there were ANY governments?

Um, no, it really wasn't... when we started getting real concentrations of people, the need for clean water became abundent.

You realize that before we had big public works, water was often co-mixed with feces and there were lots of nasty germs in it, right?

Libertarians are hilarious, they think Civilization just kind of happens.. It's so cute. Then we grown ups have to take care of business.

Joe thinks civilization and government are one in the same. LMFAO!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Congress critters don't get to vote their asses back into those chairs. We the people do, and the left is losing this one in the eyes of the people.

Not really.

Trump Has Lost Ground In The Shutdown Blame Game

 

[EverCurious]

Congress critters don't get to vote their asses back into those chairs. We the people do, and the left is losing this one in the eyes of the people.

Not really.

Trump Has Lost Ground In The Shutdown Blame Game

No, he hasn't, the polls are just shit. (across the board, both directions, all shit)

 

[Andylusion]

Trump's idea of a negotiation is "I'll release the hostages if you give me 5 billion for a wall"

How is that negotiation?

Dems have PASSED legislation that INCLUDES funding for border security at last year's level. Trump hasn't even spent THAT money on this "crisis"

5 billion isn't building a wall.

This is a totally manufactured "crisis"

It needs to be dealt with, and I support it being dealt with.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Great. Then the Anerican people will see clearly that it is the Republicans and their president who, when given an opportunity, decided to continue the pain.

It's only a matter of time until the shutdown is untenable for Republicans.

The dems shove give him 30 billion and tell him to build the Wall from coast to coast like he promised.

Why?

A majority of Congress are against the shutdown.

Trump is losing. Bigly.

Because controlling who and what enters a nation is the most basic function of government.


ONly an enemy of the nation could be against it.


It would be good for the nation and it's citizens to build the Wall.


That is why they should do it.


You are putting partisan gain ahead of that, to your shame.

No, at this point, a majority in congress are against it. It is the Republicans who are now playing politics. I dare McConnell to hold a vote. I doubt they would vote it down.

Not sure how anything you said related to anything I said.


You asked why I thought the dems should shove 30 billion dollars down Trump's pie hole,

and I pointed out how controlling who and want enters the country is good for America.


YOur response is to discuss partisan politics.


You are putting partisan politics ahead of what is good for our nation, to your shame.


Shame on you.

Mmm.....no.

It's not partisan politics if a bipartisan majority in congress are against a shutdown.

The partisans would be the Republicans who refuse to vote.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Congress critters don't get to vote their asses back into those chairs. We the people do, and the left is losing this one in the eyes of the people.

Not really.

Trump Has Lost Ground In The Shutdown Blame Game

No, he hasn't, the polls are just shit. (across the board, both directions, all shit)

I gave a link.

 

[EverCurious]

Congress critters don't get to vote their asses back into those chairs. We the people do, and the left is losing this one in the eyes of the people.

Not really.

Trump Has Lost Ground In The Shutdown Blame Game

No, he hasn't, the polls are just shit. (across the board, both directions, all shit)

I gave a link.

Yep and I'm a perfect example of why said poll is shit:

Do I "blame" Trump for the shut-down? Yes.
Do I disagree with Trump shutting the government down for the wall? Nope.

 

[Andylusion]

And the Senate will shut it down. Then what?

Great. Then the Anerican people will see clearly that it is the Republicans and their president who, when given an opportunity, decided to continue the pain.

It's only a matter of time until the shutdown is untenable for Republicans.

The dems shove give him 30 billion and tell him to build the Wall from coast to coast like he promised.

Why?

A majority of Congress are against the shutdown.

Trump is losing. Bigly.

Because controlling who and what enters a nation is the most basic function of government.


ONly an enemy of the nation could be against it.


It would be good for the nation and it's citizens to build the Wall.


That is why they should do it.


You are putting partisan gain ahead of that, to your shame.

No, at this point, a majority in congress are against it. It is the Republicans who are now playing politics. I dare McConnell to hold a vote. I doubt they would vote it down.

And they should play politics with it. This is a needed fix to a situation that has been on going for decades. It needs fixed.

Yes, Congress is against it, because they are stupid, mindless, useless, garbage people, who do not defend the country.

We absolutely should play politics with this, and we should fight this to the absolute bitter end. Either break the country apart in civil war, or start defending this country, with a wall. What is the point of even having a country, if you are going to allow an anarchy anything-goes system of laws?

No other country does this. Canada doesn't allow this. Mexico doesn't allow this. Europe doesn't allow this. No one else, but pathetically stupid, and useless trash known as "democraps" do this.

 

[EverCurious]

Great. Then the Anerican people will see clearly that it is the Republicans and their president who, when given an opportunity, decided to continue the pain.

It's only a matter of time until the shutdown is untenable for Republicans.

The dems shove give him 30 billion and tell him to build the Wall from coast to coast like he promised.

Why?

A majority of Congress are against the shutdown.

Trump is losing. Bigly.

Because controlling who and what enters a nation is the most basic function of government.


ONly an enemy of the nation could be against it.


It would be good for the nation and it's citizens to build the Wall.


That is why they should do it.


You are putting partisan gain ahead of that, to your shame.

No, at this point, a majority in congress are against it. It is the Republicans who are now playing politics. I dare McConnell to hold a vote. I doubt they would vote it down.

And they should play politics with it. This is a needed fix to a situation that has been on going for decades. It needs fixed.

Yes, Congress is against it, because they are stupid, mindless, useless, garbage people, who do not defend the country.

We absolutely should play politics with this, and we should fight this to the absolute bitter end. Either break the country apart in civil war, or start defending this country, with a wall. What is the point of even having a country, if you are going to allow an anarchy anything-goes system of laws?

No other country does this. Canada doesn't allow this. Mexico doesn't allow this. Europe doesn't allow this. No one else, but pathetically stupid, and useless trash known as "democraps" do this.

hmm you do have a point.

 

[OldLady]

Trump's idea of a negotiation is "I'll release the hostages if you give me 5 billion for a wall"

How is that negotiation?

Dems have PASSED legislation that INCLUDES funding for border security at last year's level. Trump hasn't even spent THAT money on this "crisis"

Yeah, what's up with that? Anyone know why it's not spent?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Dems continue to obstruct.

 

[The Purge]

 

[Lesh]

Trump's idea of a negotiation is "I'll release the hostages if you give me 5 billion for a wall"

How is that negotiation?

Dems have PASSED legislation that INCLUDES funding for border security at last year's level. Trump hasn't even spent THAT money on this "crisis"

Yeah, what's up with that? Anyone know why it's not spent?

Ask Trump. It was his to spend

 

[Jitss617]

Sorry, I don't believe that for a fucking minute. It doesn't matter what is attempted to curb or stop illegal immigration, your side always has an excuse to oppose it.

Mostly because what you guys propose is usually racist or stupid.

The reality... Illegal immigration started declining under Obama.

Thank you trump for protecting the poor

you mean he supported unions and a living wage?

No, of course not! He just wants to keep other poor people from doing the jobs poor Americans don't want to do.

Lol unions .. most poor are against the anti American unions, unions destroy small private businesses that hire the poor.. if you are for unions you hate the poor

I don't generally care for unions...but where is your link to unbiased, factual data that 'if you are for unions you hate the poor', please?

Well in Boston unions destroy small businesses, they can’t compete for jobs because of money and working back door deals with politicians . So if you are pro unions today you hate the poor

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Congress critters don't get to vote their asses back into those chairs. We the people do, and the left is losing this one in the eyes of the people.

Not really.

Trump Has Lost Ground In The Shutdown Blame Game

No, he hasn't, the polls are just shit. (across the board, both directions, all shit)

I gave a link.

Yep and I'm a perfect example of why said poll is shit:

Do I "blame" Trump for the shut-down? Yes.
Do I disagree with Trump shutting the government down for the wall? Nope.

Great. I gave you current polling from yesterday.
You gave me nothing.
Your imagination is not evidence of reality.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Great. Then the Anerican people will see clearly that it is the Republicans and their president who, when given an opportunity, decided to continue the pain.

It's only a matter of time until the shutdown is untenable for Republicans.

The dems shove give him 30 billion and tell him to build the Wall from coast to coast like he promised.

Why?

A majority of Congress are against the shutdown.

Trump is losing. Bigly.

Because controlling who and what enters a nation is the most basic function of government.


ONly an enemy of the nation could be against it.


It would be good for the nation and it's citizens to build the Wall.


That is why they should do it.


You are putting partisan gain ahead of that, to your shame.

No, at this point, a majority in congress are against it. It is the Republicans who are now playing politics. I dare McConnell to hold a vote. I doubt they would vote it down.

And they should play politics with it. This is a needed fix to a situation that has been on going for decades. It needs fixed.

Yes, Congress is against it, because they are stupid, mindless, useless, garbage people, who do not defend the country.

We absolutely should play politics with this, and we should fight this to the absolute bitter end. Either break the country apart in civil war, or start defending this country, with a wall. What is the point of even having a country, if you are going to allow an anarchy anything-goes system of laws?

No other country does this. Canada doesn't allow this. Mexico doesn't allow this. Europe doesn't allow this. No one else, but pathetically stupid, and useless trash known as "democraps" do this.

Open the govt.

 

[McRocket]

Sorry, I don't believe that for a fucking minute. It doesn't matter what is attempted to curb or stop illegal immigration, your side always has an excuse to oppose it.

Mostly because what you guys propose is usually racist or stupid.

The reality... Illegal immigration started declining under Obama.

Thank you trump for protecting the poor

you mean he supported unions and a living wage?

No, of course not! He just wants to keep other poor people from doing the jobs poor Americans don't want to do.

Lol unions .. most poor are against the anti American unions, unions destroy small private businesses that hire the poor.. if you are for unions you hate the poor

I don't generally care for unions...but where is your link to unbiased, factual data that 'if you are for unions you hate the poor', please?

Well in Boston unions destroy small businesses, they can’t compete for jobs because of money and working back door deals with politicians . So if you are pro unions today you hate the poor

That doesn't prove your position. Your example might prove that unions damage free enterprise (which I agree, they usually do)...but it does not prove that EVERYONE who is pro union hates the poor.

And considering many people who are pro-union are poor - your point doubly does not make sense.

 

[Jitss617]

Sorry, I don't believe that for a fucking minute. It doesn't matter what is attempted to curb or stop illegal immigration, your side always has an excuse to oppose it.

Mostly because what you guys propose is usually racist or stupid.

The reality... Illegal immigration started declining under Obama.

Thank you trump for protecting the poor

you mean he supported unions and a living wage?

No, of course not! He just wants to keep other poor people from doing the jobs poor Americans don't want to do.

Lol unions .. most poor are against the anti American unions, unions destroy small private businesses that hire the poor.. if you are for unions you hate the poor

I don't generally care for unions...but where is your link to unbiased, factual data that 'if you are for unions you hate the poor', please?

Well in Boston unions destroy small businesses, they can’t compete for jobs because of money and working back door deals with politicians . So if you are pro unions today you hate the poor

That doesn't prove your position. Your example might prove that unions damage free enterprise (which I agree, they usually do)...but it does not prove that EVERYONE who is pro union hates the poor.

And considering many people who are pro-union are poor - your point doubly does not make sense.

Well if you cared about the poor you would ask for all unions to break down and return to the free market. If not you are supporting the poor and dreams of biz owners to die