Official USMB What is a Wall? Why a Wall?

[bripat9643]

this cannot be correct

I mean, we know that in addition to being immoral, walls just don't work

this has to be an inflated number, has CNN fact checked this yet?

Jim? Where ya at boy?

Border Patrol Official in South Texas: 96% of Our Migrant Traffic Occurs Where There's No Fencing

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Acting Chief of the Rio Grande Valley Sector Raul Ortiz, who met with President Trump Thursday, told Hegseth that his agents patrol a western and eastern corridor in South Texas. Ortiz said the western side accounts for 96 percent of foot traffic, since there is no fencing.

On the eastern side, fencing exists and only 4 percent of traffic occurs there, he explained. Ortiz said the eastern side was the busiest area in the country for illegal crossings in the 1990s, before fencing was added.

Perhaps the majority of migrant traffic in a relatively small section of the border that has no normal points of entry do come across where there is no barrier, but that doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of all migrant traffic comes through normal points of entry. A wall in those remote areas will stop few compared to other strategies to reduce immigrant traffic.

No they don't, douchebag. That's a big fat lie.

 

[BULLDOG]

this cannot be correct

I mean, we know that in addition to being immoral, walls just don't work

this has to be an inflated number, has CNN fact checked this yet?

Jim? Where ya at boy?

Border Patrol Official in South Texas: 96% of Our Migrant Traffic Occurs Where There's No Fencing

quote:
Acting Chief of the Rio Grande Valley Sector Raul Ortiz, who met with President Trump Thursday, told Hegseth that his agents patrol a western and eastern corridor in South Texas. Ortiz said the western side accounts for 96 percent of foot traffic, since there is no fencing.

On the eastern side, fencing exists and only 4 percent of traffic occurs there, he explained. Ortiz said the eastern side was the busiest area in the country for illegal crossings in the 1990s, before fencing was added.

Perhaps the majority of migrant traffic in a relatively small section of the border that has no normal points of entry do come across where there is no barrier, but that doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of all migrant traffic comes through normal points of entry. A wall in those remote areas will stop few compared to other strategies to reduce immigrant traffic.

No they don't, douchebag. That's a big fat lie.

Is that what Hannity told you?

 

[Thinker101]

Evidently a wall is now acceptable to Nancy Pelosi. Although it’s a Technological Wall. Not quite sure that anyone currently has a technological wall butt apparently its a wall of sensors and drones. Not a great idea but sure sounds better than mowing the grass to prevent illegal’s from crawling through the grass.

Nancy Pelosi Pushes 'Technological Wall' Instead of a Fence | Breitbart

Yeah, I found the grass mowing hard to believe too, so...
Democrat Pushes “Mowing The Grass” Control Plan, Because That Would Work

 

[eagle1462010]

All the new infrastructure and WALL comes with all the whistles and bells.

Guess she wants the illegals to steal that high dollar equipment with a caution do not enter tape at the border.........lol

 

[basquebromance]

When Black people commit a crime THEY GET 3 strikes, when illegal aliens commit crimes they get amnesty & benefits

you can claim people in mexico but you cant claim people in new orleans. the black community is being destroyed by racist sanctuary policies

 

[Norman]

As a black citizen it must be great to hear that the democrat party is planning to replace you and the services you may have actually paid for with a bunch of Mexicans illegals and free benefits for them.

 

[H B Lowrie]

If the goal is to improve border security then you need unity and collaboration to get there. When you demonize the people you need to get legislation passed and when you brand your campaign in a way that goes against your political opponents values then you aren’t going to get anywhere.

you just described Pelosi and Schumer.

Agreed both sides are guilty of the same tactics. Both are responsible. I place more responsibility on the president to set the tone.

The dems are constant in their methods.


Remember when McCain ran? How they turned on him on a dime?

Yes, the partisan team players fight hard for their team and it is destructive especially when they get off the substance and start lying and hyperbolizing everything. The Dems are brutal and play the race card, woman card, minority card etc way too much. The Right likes to jump right to Venezuela and socialism and open borders with everything. At some point we all need to grow the hell up and debate issues honestly.

We have tens of millions of illegals living in this country.


If we do not have an "open border" it is close enough that quibbling over semantics is not what we should be wasting time on.


BUILD THE WALL, DEPORT THE ILLEGALS, FUCK THE EMPLOYERS, AND LET'S LIMIT THE DAMAGE TO THE NATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.


Which probably isn't much.

It's actually 11-13M isn't it? Not "tens of millions". If you wish to be taken seriously you will have to behave seriously. So how about we start with a serious number.

And really now, fuck the employers? You have no idea how your political/economic system works do you.

 

[Issa]

The native Americans should've built a wall too.

Why didn’t they?

They were to liquored up

-Geaux

Dont worry their bloodline is taking over slowly...qlmost every major city now has a majority Latinos. .

Yep. Democratic Party America’s largest racist organization. Sure, let Latinos run the country. We would end up like Central American banana Republics. Coup and counter revolution. Corruption and dictatorship.

That's just the racist you, thinking because of your skin color you are siperior.
The mother of all civilizations (egyptians) non white.
The moors who taught your ancestors how to take a bath and built cities and brought them out of the dark ages...were non white.
Get off your high horse, the moors ruled for 800 years, your ancestors who fled Europe ruled for barely a 100 years now.

 

[Issa]

Why didn’t they?

They were to liquored up

-Geaux

Dont worry their bloodline is taking over slowly...qlmost every major city now has a majority Latinos. .

And thats a good thing?

-Geaux

Very...good food, good family values, respectful and no mass shooting.

Drugs, violence, gangs.

Mafia, kidnapping girls, mass shooting, low family values and morals, shitty food...whites?

 

[H B Lowrie]

First off I'm not even bothering to read Breitbart as a source for anything. Secondly I can't imagine agreeing with Pelosi on anything. So I'm just not drawn to any of this.

 

[Issa]

Why didn’t they?

They were to liquored up

-Geaux

Dont worry their bloodline is taking over slowly...qlmost every major city now has a majority Latinos. .

And thats a good thing?

-Geaux

Very...good food, good family values, respectful and no mass shooting.

Orange houses with fluorescent green shutters.

Trailer parks.

 

[basquebromance]

Even the zone of a border itself, the Supreme Court has held, extends far beyond the technical outline of a nation. Imagine a border as the human-made thing that it is, and it’s no longer surprising that it takes a multitude of forms: a line on a map, a fence, a bundle of legal agreements, a set of sensors, a room in an airport, a metaphor.

 

[caddo kid]

oh great; another FVCKING WALL Thread ........... how many is that, today?>>>>>>>>

 

[Carl in Michigan]

First off I'm not even bothering to read Breitbart as a source for anything. Secondly I can't imagine agreeing with Pelosi on anything. So I'm just not drawn to any of this.

And yet you respond.

 

[Issa]

The native Americans should've built a wall too.

Why didn’t they?

They trusted the savages.

Conquered by a superior civilization.

Civilization ? lol you mean bunch of rejects and convicts from Europe ?

Rejects and convicts conquered the New World.

So did the mongols.

 

[basquebromance]

‘The border is everywhere’ is a phrase sometimes used to express the experience of racialized ‘others’ within the territory of a given nation state. You don’t have to be trying to cross through a physical border checkpoint to sense that you are an alien, a non-citizen, someone who does not belong.

 

[eagle1462010]

oh great; another FVCKING WALL Thread ........... how many is that, today?>>>>>>>>

Here's another one......
Newsflash. Pelosi and Schumer unveil new border wall plan

 

[basquebromance]

borders in their geographical, spatial and virtual forms have become increasingly central for understanding the life chances of people. If for Marx the capitalist state exercised monopoly over the means of production, and for Weber the state exercised monopoly over the organized means of violence, for John Torpey (2000) the modern state exercises monopoly over the means of movement, my friends

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[Thinker101]

oh great; another FVCKING WALL Thread ........... how many is that, today?>>>>>>>>

But this is a Democrat wall...or did you miss that part?