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OK Democrats! It's Time To Back Up Your Words

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For all my life, I have been hearing Democrats railing that the the voters should vote for them, because they supposedly are not pressured by big corporate donors$$, as they have always claimed Republicans are. Well, in this campaign season, it clearly is Hillary Clinton who is the big corporate $$$ recipient ($117 Million so far), so shouldn't Democrats be repelled by that ? Hillary has gotten 73% of her donations (legal bribes) from the BIG bucks.

Summary data for Hillary Clinton, 2016 Cycle | OpenSecrets

And Bernie, while not as bad as Hillary, still has taken in 33% of his money from the big boys ($45 Million). That's a ton of money to have to pay back favors for.

Summary data for Bernie Sanders, 2016 Cycle | OpenSecrets

In contrast to the big corporate donations flowing in for the Democrats, Donald Trump has had relatively nothing from the big donors. Only 7% of his donations have been in the large category, adding up to only $2 Million. That is a measly 1/23 of what Bernie has taken, and 1/59 as much as Hillary's corporate grab. Relatively to Hillary and Bernie, Trump has gotten nothing from the big bribers.

Summary data for Donald Trump, 2016 Cycle | OpenSecrets

So what do the Democrats have to say about this ? Speak up Democrats. Let's hear it.
 
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Trump is THE crony capitalist, protectionist.
So THAT is all you've got ? Not too good, Jokey. Come back when you got something to defend the hypocrisy with.
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Trump doesn't have to pay back favors. Hillary and Bernie do.
 
3 years ago, the laughingstock publication Rolling Stone said this >> “modern-day Republicans have become, quite simply, the Party of the 1% — the Party of the Rich”

Oh yeah ? Guess again.

1. The Associated Press reported just before Christmas, “it’s actually the liberal-minded who shelled out the most cash in the just completed midterm elections.”

What’s more, “the two biggest super PACs of 2014,” the “Senate Majority PAC and House Majority PAC,” were both backed by Democrats.

The AP, using data from the Center for Responsive Politics, continues:

2. “Among the 183 groups that wrote checks of $100,000 or more to another group, Democrats had a 3-to-1 cash advantage.”

3. “Overall, for the campaign season that just ended, donors who gave more than $1 million sent roughly 60 cents of every dollar to liberal groups.”

4. “Among the 10 biggest donors, Democrats outspent Republicans by an almost 3-to-1 margin.”

5. “Among groups that funneled more than $100,000 to allies, the top of the list tilted overwhelmingly toward Democrats — a group favoring the GOP doesn’t appear on the list until No. 14.”

6. A little more than two years ago, the AP published a similar story, only this time it reported that “in Congress, the wealthiest among us are more likely to be represented by a Democrat than a Republican.”

7. “Of the 10 richest House districts,” said the AP, “only two have Republican congressmen. Democrats claim the top six.”

9.. According to OpenSecrets.org, "from 1989 to 2014 rich donors gave Democrats $1.15 billion — $416 million more than the $736 million given to the GOP.”

10. Investors Business Daily noted that “among the top 10 donors to both parties, Democrat supporters outspent Republican supporters 2-to-1.”

Party Of The Rich? Not The One Most Think It Is
 
For all my life, I have been hearing Democrats railing that the the voters should vote for them, because they supposedly are not pressured by big corporate donors$$, as they have always claimed Republicans are.

I'm not a Democrat, so maybe you will whine about making a comment in your thread. Perhaps you will even report me for some kind of violation, but, where does this opening sentence in your OP come from.
 
3 years ago, the laughingstock publication Rolling Stone said this >> “modern-day Republicans have become, quite simply, the Party of the 1% — the Party of the Rich”

Oh yeah ? Guess again.

1. The Associated Press reported just before Christmas, “it’s actually the liberal-minded who shelled out the most cash in the just completed midterm elections.”

What’s more, “the two biggest super PACs of 2014,” the “Senate Majority PAC and House Majority PAC,” were both backed by Democrats.

The AP, using data from the Center for Responsive Politics, continues:

2. “Among the 183 groups that wrote checks of $100,000 or more to another group, Democrats had a 3-to-1 cash advantage.”

3. “Overall, for the campaign season that just ended, donors who gave more than $1 million sent roughly 60 cents of every dollar to liberal groups.”

4. “Among the 10 biggest donors, Democrats outspent Republicans by an almost 3-to-1 margin.”

5. “Among groups that funneled more than $100,000 to allies, the top of the list tilted overwhelmingly toward Democrats — a group favoring the GOP doesn’t appear on the list until No. 14.”

6. A little more than two years ago, the AP published a similar story, only this time it reported that “in Congress, the wealthiest among us are more likely to be represented by a Democrat than a Republican.”

7. “Of the 10 richest House districts,” said the AP, “only two have Republican congressmen. Democrats claim the top six.”

9.. According to OpenSecrets.org, "from 1989 to 2014 rich donors gave Democrats $1.15 billion — $416 million more than the $736 million given to the GOP.”

10. Investors Business Daily noted that “among the top 10 donors to both parties, Democrat supporters outspent Republican supporters 2-to-1.”

Party Of The Rich? Not The One Most Think It Is


Why don't you look at the things republicans advocate compared to democrats. Republicans only work for the rich, and religious nuts, while democrats work for the working people.
 
Trump IS the corporation...in fact, most of the money used by his campaign was BORROWED from Trump's Corporation, not from Trumps own pocket.

Democrats in general, do not hand away every tax break and every tax subsidies to big corps, even if they get some crumbs from them in campaign donations.

Democrats in general believe banks and corporations need regulating, Republicans do not.....R's repeal what good laws we have had and have worked.

Republicans receive more than double in donations from big business/1 percenters than Democrats do in any given election...

neither party is perfect, but the lesser of 2 evils has been with the Democrats...of course, in my opinion.
 
3 years ago, the laughingstock publication Rolling Stone said this >> “modern-day Republicans have become, quite simply, the Party of the 1% — the Party of the Rich”

Oh yeah ? Guess again.

1. The Associated Press reported just before Christmas, “it’s actually the liberal-minded who shelled out the most cash in the just completed midterm elections.”

What’s more, “the two biggest super PACs of 2014,” the “Senate Majority PAC and House Majority PAC,” were both backed by Democrats.

The AP, using data from the Center for Responsive Politics, continues:

2. “Among the 183 groups that wrote checks of $100,000 or more to another group, Democrats had a 3-to-1 cash advantage.”

3. “Overall, for the campaign season that just ended, donors who gave more than $1 million sent roughly 60 cents of every dollar to liberal groups.”

4. “Among the 10 biggest donors, Democrats outspent Republicans by an almost 3-to-1 margin.”

5. “Among groups that funneled more than $100,000 to allies, the top of the list tilted overwhelmingly toward Democrats — a group favoring the GOP doesn’t appear on the list until No. 14.”

6. A little more than two years ago, the AP published a similar story, only this time it reported that “in Congress, the wealthiest among us are more likely to be represented by a Democrat than a Republican.”

7. “Of the 10 richest House districts,” said the AP, “only two have Republican congressmen. Democrats claim the top six.”

9.. According to OpenSecrets.org, "from 1989 to 2014 rich donors gave Democrats $1.15 billion — $416 million more than the $736 million given to the GOP.”

10. Investors Business Daily noted that “among the top 10 donors to both parties, Democrat supporters outspent Republican supporters 2-to-1.”

Party Of The Rich? Not The One Most Think It Is


Why don't you look at the things republicans advocate compared to democrats. Republicans only work for the rich, and religious nuts, while democrats work for the working people.
LIAR!!! Hilliary proves you wrong.
 
Trump is THE crony capitalist, protectionist.
"So THAT is all you've got "
All that is needed. Also that he can't win.
Still an idiot^^^^^
I look at life realistically and factually. I am not relentlessly stupid like you, meaning you relentlessly stick to your "feelz" instead of facing the facts. Trump can't win. 60 to 65% of the nation have no intention of permitting him to be president.
 
In contrast to the big corporate donations flowing in for the Democrats, Donald Trump has had relatively nothing from the big donors.

People somehow conveniently forget or ignore that Donald Trump has one very large billionaire contributor -- Donald Trump -- and as a consequence of that, he's beholden to nobody other than Donald Trump if/when his whim shifts tomorrow, next week, next month, or next year, or even three years from now.

One might respond that Trump is a decent fellow and we should trust in his integrity and high ethical standards. I'm sorry, but I just can't. The plethora of flip-flops, inaccuracies, and questionable ethical dealings just don't make that possible for me.

  • For Trump, the truth is a fungible thing.


Frankly, I rather like that political candidates, at least insofar as Trump goes, have some very material degree of dependency on "somebody," be it rank and file voters, large segments of industry, special interest groups, or others. And isn't being beholden to a large segment, if not the majority, of a polity the whole point of democracy? Installing Trump as President strikes me as little other than willfully voting for a dictator as the man has no reason to give a damn, in spite of his rhetoric, about what anyone else wants. I'm sorry, but Donald Trump is no Mother Theresa, or even close.
 
3 years ago, the laughingstock publication Rolling Stone said this >> “modern-day Republicans have become, quite simply, the Party of the 1% — the Party of the Rich”

Oh yeah ? Guess again.

1. The Associated Press reported just before Christmas, “it’s actually the liberal-minded who shelled out the most cash in the just completed midterm elections.”

What’s more, “the two biggest super PACs of 2014,” the “Senate Majority PAC and House Majority PAC,” were both backed by Democrats.

The AP, using data from the Center for Responsive Politics, continues:

2. “Among the 183 groups that wrote checks of $100,000 or more to another group, Democrats had a 3-to-1 cash advantage.”

3. “Overall, for the campaign season that just ended, donors who gave more than $1 million sent roughly 60 cents of every dollar to liberal groups.”

4. “Among the 10 biggest donors, Democrats outspent Republicans by an almost 3-to-1 margin.”

5. “Among groups that funneled more than $100,000 to allies, the top of the list tilted overwhelmingly toward Democrats — a group favoring the GOP doesn’t appear on the list until No. 14.”

6. A little more than two years ago, the AP published a similar story, only this time it reported that “in Congress, the wealthiest among us are more likely to be represented by a Democrat than a Republican.”

7. “Of the 10 richest House districts,” said the AP, “only two have Republican congressmen. Democrats claim the top six.”

9.. According to OpenSecrets.org, "from 1989 to 2014 rich donors gave Democrats $1.15 billion — $416 million more than the $736 million given to the GOP.”

10. Investors Business Daily noted that “among the top 10 donors to both parties, Democrat supporters outspent Republican supporters 2-to-1.”

Party Of The Rich? Not The One Most Think It Is


Why don't you look at the things republicans advocate compared to democrats. Republicans only work for the rich, and religious nuts, while democrats work for the working people.




You really believe that... :lmao:
 
3 years ago, the laughingstock publication Rolling Stone said this >> “modern-day Republicans have become, quite simply, the Party of the 1% — the Party of the Rich”

Oh yeah ? Guess again.

1. The Associated Press reported just before Christmas, “it’s actually the liberal-minded who shelled out the most cash in the just completed midterm elections.”

What’s more, “the two biggest super PACs of 2014,” the “Senate Majority PAC and House Majority PAC,” were both backed by Democrats.

The AP, using data from the Center for Responsive Politics, continues:

2. “Among the 183 groups that wrote checks of $100,000 or more to another group, Democrats had a 3-to-1 cash advantage.”

3. “Overall, for the campaign season that just ended, donors who gave more than $1 million sent roughly 60 cents of every dollar to liberal groups.”

4. “Among the 10 biggest donors, Democrats outspent Republicans by an almost 3-to-1 margin.”

5. “Among groups that funneled more than $100,000 to allies, the top of the list tilted overwhelmingly toward Democrats — a group favoring the GOP doesn’t appear on the list until No. 14.”

6. A little more than two years ago, the AP published a similar story, only this time it reported that “in Congress, the wealthiest among us are more likely to be represented by a Democrat than a Republican.”

7. “Of the 10 richest House districts,” said the AP, “only two have Republican congressmen. Democrats claim the top six.”

9.. According to OpenSecrets.org, "from 1989 to 2014 rich donors gave Democrats $1.15 billion — $416 million more than the $736 million given to the GOP.”

10. Investors Business Daily noted that “among the top 10 donors to both parties, Democrat supporters outspent Republican supporters 2-to-1.”

Party Of The Rich? Not The One Most Think It Is


Why don't you look at the things republicans advocate compared to democrats. Republicans only work for the rich, and religious nuts, while democrats work for the working people.
LIAR!!! Hilliary proves you wrong.


You're funny. Wrong, but funny.
 
3 years ago, the laughingstock publication Rolling Stone said this >> “modern-day Republicans have become, quite simply, the Party of the 1% — the Party of the Rich”

Oh yeah ? Guess again.

1. The Associated Press reported just before Christmas, “it’s actually the liberal-minded who shelled out the most cash in the just completed midterm elections.”

What’s more, “the two biggest super PACs of 2014,” the “Senate Majority PAC and House Majority PAC,” were both backed by Democrats.

The AP, using data from the Center for Responsive Politics, continues:

2. “Among the 183 groups that wrote checks of $100,000 or more to another group, Democrats had a 3-to-1 cash advantage.”

3. “Overall, for the campaign season that just ended, donors who gave more than $1 million sent roughly 60 cents of every dollar to liberal groups.”

4. “Among the 10 biggest donors, Democrats outspent Republicans by an almost 3-to-1 margin.”

5. “Among groups that funneled more than $100,000 to allies, the top of the list tilted overwhelmingly toward Democrats — a group favoring the GOP doesn’t appear on the list until No. 14.”

6. A little more than two years ago, the AP published a similar story, only this time it reported that “in Congress, the wealthiest among us are more likely to be represented by a Democrat than a Republican.”

7. “Of the 10 richest House districts,” said the AP, “only two have Republican congressmen. Democrats claim the top six.”

9.. According to OpenSecrets.org, "from 1989 to 2014 rich donors gave Democrats $1.15 billion — $416 million more than the $736 million given to the GOP.”

10. Investors Business Daily noted that “among the top 10 donors to both parties, Democrat supporters outspent Republican supporters 2-to-1.”

Party Of The Rich? Not The One Most Think It Is


Why don't you look at the things republicans advocate compared to democrats. Republicans only work for the rich, and religious nuts, while democrats work for the working people.




You really believe that... :lmao:


I know that.
 
3 years ago, the laughingstock publication Rolling Stone said this >> “modern-day Republicans have become, quite simply, the Party of the 1% — the Party of the Rich”

Oh yeah ? Guess again.

1. The Associated Press reported just before Christmas, “it’s actually the liberal-minded who shelled out the most cash in the just completed midterm elections.”

What’s more, “the two biggest super PACs of 2014,” the “Senate Majority PAC and House Majority PAC,” were both backed by Democrats.

The AP, using data from the Center for Responsive Politics, continues:

2. “Among the 183 groups that wrote checks of $100,000 or more to another group, Democrats had a 3-to-1 cash advantage.”

3. “Overall, for the campaign season that just ended, donors who gave more than $1 million sent roughly 60 cents of every dollar to liberal groups.”

4. “Among the 10 biggest donors, Democrats outspent Republicans by an almost 3-to-1 margin.”

5. “Among groups that funneled more than $100,000 to allies, the top of the list tilted overwhelmingly toward Democrats — a group favoring the GOP doesn’t appear on the list until No. 14.”

6. A little more than two years ago, the AP published a similar story, only this time it reported that “in Congress, the wealthiest among us are more likely to be represented by a Democrat than a Republican.”

7. “Of the 10 richest House districts,” said the AP, “only two have Republican congressmen. Democrats claim the top six.”

9.. According to OpenSecrets.org, "from 1989 to 2014 rich donors gave Democrats $1.15 billion — $416 million more than the $736 million given to the GOP.”

10. Investors Business Daily noted that “among the top 10 donors to both parties, Democrat supporters outspent Republican supporters 2-to-1.”

Party Of The Rich? Not The One Most Think It Is


Why don't you look at the things republicans advocate compared to democrats. Republicans only work for the rich, and religious nuts, while democrats work for the working people.




You really believe that... :lmao:


I know that.




:lmao:
 
For all my life, I have been hearing Democrats railing that the the voters should vote for them, because they supposedly are not pressured by big corporate donors$$, as they have always claimed Republicans are. Well, in this campaign season, it clearly is Hillary Clinton who is the big corporate $$$ recipient ($117 Million so far), so shouldn't Democrats be repelled by that ? Hillary has gotten 73% of her donations (legal bribes) from the BIG bucks.

Summary data for Hillary Clinton, 2016 Cycle | OpenSecrets

And Bernie, while not as bad as Hillary, still has taken in 33% of his money from the big boys ($45 Million). That's a ton of money to have to pay back favors for.

Summary data for Bernie Sanders, 2016 Cycle | OpenSecrets

In contrast to the big corporate donations flowing in for the Democrats, Donald Trump has had relatively nothing from the big donors. Only 7% of his donations have been in the large category, adding up to only $2 Million. That is a measly 1/23 of what Bernie has taken, and 1/59 as much as Hillary's corporate grab. Relatively to Hillary and Bernie, Trump has gotten nothing from the big bribers.

Summary data for Donald Trump, 2016 Cycle | OpenSecrets

So what do the Democrats have to say about this ? Speak up Democrats. Let's hear it.
This fails as a straw man fallacy, democrats have ‘claimed’ no such thing.
 
I'm not a Democrat, so maybe you will whine about making a comment in your thread. Perhaps you will even report me for some kind of violation, but, where does this opening sentence in your OP come from.
It comes from what I have known for 60 years and millions of Americans also. This is a surprise ?
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It also comes from info in the link at the bottom of Post # 4.

Last year, a HuffPost/YouGov poll found that 51% of Americans believe the GOP is “most interested in helping” the rich.

Likewise, a CNN/ORC International poll conducted earlier this year found that 69% of the country thinks “the policies of the Republican Party generally favor the rich.”

Party Of The Rich? Not The One Most Think It Is

Unfortunately, the Democrats won’t stop tarring the GOP with the party-of-the-rich tag. They’ve long had the country believing it, and will keep doing so even if it is untrue. After all, it’s a lie that works.
 
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Why don't you look at the things republicans advocate compared to democrats. Republicans only work for the rich, and religious nuts, while democrats work for the working people.
OK, I accept that challenge.

1. Democrats support illegal immigration (AKA domestic outsourcing). The takes jobs away from MILLIONS of American "working people"

2. Democrats support AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, which denies jobs, job promotions, college admissions, college financial aid, and business loans to white "working people" and sometimes other non-blacks also. It also harms white women who are daughters, wives, mothers, etc of white men discriminated against.

3. By supporting immigration (legal & illegal), Democrats harm ALL Americans, by allowing the imperialism of the US economy to continue, by remittance grabbing countries >> (Mexico, China, India, Phillipines - top 3) Remittance Flows Worldwide in 2012 $123 Billion year lost

4. By supporting immigration (legal & illegal), Democrats harm ALL Americans, by all these things >>

Harms of Immigration

1.
Americans lose jobs. (especially Whites due to affirmative action).

2. Wage reduction.

3. Tax $ lost (due to off books work + lower wages paid).

4. Remittance $$$ lost. ($40 Billion year).

5. Tax $$ lost to immigrants on welfare.

6. Increased crime.

7. Increased traffic congestion.

8. Increased pollution.

9. Overcrowding in hospital ERs.

10. Overcrowding in recreational facilities.

11. Overcrowding in government offices.

12. Overcrowding in schools.

13. Decrease in funds available for entitlements.

14. Cultural erosion.

15. Overuse of scarce resources (oil, gasoline, fresh water, jobs, electricity, food, etc)

16. Introduction of foreign diseases.

17. Influx of terrorists (ex ISIS with Syrian refugees)
 

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