Flopper
Diamond Member
Get the government completely out of the marriage business and problem solved.
what problem is that? That you have to let the gays into your clubhouse now?
This law won't stand because of the whole Separation of Church and State thing some of you might have heard of. But even if it does, you just open a on-line ministry and issue marriage licenses.
I wouldn't be too sure about that. Either a minister or a judge can authorize the marriage an perform the ceremony or the couple can file a Affiliated of Common Law Marriage.
Or you can just file an Affiliated of Common Law Marriage.Oklahoma! Where the wind comes sweeping down the plains! And where churches can rule law.
Gay in Tulsa? Good luck finding a church in open minded, liberty granting Oklahoma willing to grant you your right to access contract law.
Under this law you don't have to get married in a Church, there is still a civil option.
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That's the Civil option to which I was referring.
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Post a link to the bill as passed. Have you looked at Section 8?Look at Section 8 of HB1125 as passed by the House. It clearly states, that the person performing or solemnizing the marriage ceremony shall, immediately upon the completion of the ceremony, execute a marriage certificate authorizing the marriage. In this section it states that the person performing the ceremony will complete the certificate with legal name taken from birth certificate, driver's license, or identification card, visa, passport, etc which will be accepted as proof of identity and age.If the bill as written becomes law, there will be more child marriages.Anybody can be licensed to be clergy.
The bill means nothing at all.
No, there won't. The bill does not change the requirements or the process for minors marrying.
This verification of age and identity was previous performed by a government official. It will now be performed by the person conducting the ceremony. Furthermore, the fees for issuing the license has been changed to the fees for recording the certificate after the ceremony.
If this bill becomes law, the state will no longer be issuing a document, to authorize the marriage. This will be done by the person conducting the ceremony. The government will be acting only as a recording agent for the certificate just as it does for legal documents such as wills and leases. If the person conducting the ceremony refuses to marry a gay couple, the state can not be held at fault because the state is no longer authorizing marriages.
http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2015-16 INT/hB/HB1125 INT.PDF
First off, you are looking at the bill as it was introduced. You need to look at the final bill that was voted on.
The bill changes the current law. Language which is being added is underlined. If it is being deleted it is stricken through. If neither, then it is the old language and is unchanged. If you read that section of the final bill you will see that rather than endorsing the license, they execute the certificate. Both of those mean they sign it. There is additional personal information which has to be filled out. Then the document is sent to the county clerk who files the certificate rather than issue the license. This is a change of terminology. It does not change the basic process.